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[kano]

Just had a question I was just poking around looking at my graphs for shift work checking on my miners, and I notice today at 00:47:54 I lost about 1 ths figured I lost connections for a second but then I notice on the pool hash rate the same dip at the same time were the pool lost like 2 PHS. Is that something with the connection to the pool or maybe reboot? Just wondering if my drop in hash rate and the pools was due to the same issue.

Sometimes its a connection or reboot issue. Sometimes the graph can look skewed if more than one block is found by the network seconds apart. Those kinds of dips show what it can really take to get everyone here mining on the same page after getting shot with a blank

Short network blocks do affect the shift graphs, but usually only by a sizeable amount around the time we also find blocks.

The nodes do drop off and back on again straight away sometimes, so in those cases there'll be a 5 minute failover and fail back for miners connected to the node.
These show pretty clearly on the Pool Graph - but the graph itself is a little misleading - the width of the gaps doesn't correctly represent the amount it has gone down (or up) since the points are the average middle point of each shift.

If you have your second pool set to a different kano.is node, then you should see little if no effect on your hash rate unless both nodes do it at the same time - which is of course pretty rare.
The failover of 5 minutes (which is what cgminer is hard coded to do - yeah it's too long for ckpool ... ... ...) means about a 10% drop for that shift for any miners that don't have another kano.is node as backup, so that explains the drop level also.

In the long run it's not really a lot, and it's just caused by design flaws in ckpool.
That's something that I've already done changes that make it resolvable, that I'll finish off after I've done the accounting code.

... and on the subject of the accounting code
Soon after I get back I'll update KanoDB to add all the new account types and settings that I completed before I left, but hadn't done enough testing on it before I left, so I wasn't wanting to push a bunch of change live as I got on a plane

This has to do with the cloud changes I've mentioned before that I'm working on.
The problem has come up with the cloud design that I need the accounting code in place anyway.
So since the accounting code was next on the todo list, and I need it to finish the current todo item, cloud mining, that means account is what I'll be working on as soon as I test the current changes and get them live, once I'm back.

[NomadGroup]

for 3 blocks  i got only 0.003  after 3 days   with 26 th  that s not good

That just means that you haven't mined long enough to get your 5Nd average up.  If you stick around for longer you will get at least around 0.004 per block with your 26th but then of course the block size and the size of the pool will affect your reward.  If you would have been mining for like 3 more days prior to the 3 you're talking about you would have had around 0.0045-0.0047 reward per block, that's around $20 per block which is excellent for your 26th! 

Mine on! 

[gecox22]

Just had a question I was just poking around looking at my graphs for shift work checking on my miners, and I notice today at 00:47:54 I lost about 1 ths figured I lost connections for a second but then I notice on the pool hash rate the same dip at the same time were the pool lost like 2 PHS. Is that something with the connection to the pool or maybe reboot? Just wondering if my drop in hash rate and the pools was due to the same issue.

Sometimes its a connection or reboot issue. Sometimes the graph can look skewed if more than one block is found by the network seconds apart. Those kinds of dips show what it can really take to get everyone here mining on the same page after getting shot with a blank

Short network blocks do affect the shift graphs, but usually only by a sizeable amount around the time we also find blocks.

The nodes do drop off and back on again straight away sometimes, so in those cases there'll be a 5 minute failover and fail back for miners connected to the node.
These show pretty clearly on the Pool Graph - but the graph itself is a little misleading - the width of the gaps doesn't correctly represent the amount it has gone down (or up) since the points are the average middle point of each shift.

If you have your second pool set to a different kano.is node, then you should see little if no effect on your hash rate unless both nodes do it at the same time - which is of course pretty rare.
The failover of 5 minutes (which is what cgminer is hard coded to do - yeah it's too long for ckpool ... ... ...) means about a 10% drop for that shift for any miners that don't have another kano.is node as backup, so that explains the drop level also.

In the long run it's not really a lot, and it's just caused by design flaws in ckpool.
That's something that I've already done changes that make it resolvable, that I'll finish off after I've done the accounting code.

... and on the subject of the accounting code
Soon after I get back I'll update KanoDB to add all the new account types and settings that I completed before I left, but hadn't done enough testing on it before I left, so I wasn't wanting to push a bunch of change live as I got on a plane

This has to do with the cloud changes I've mentioned before that I'm working on.
The problem has come up with the cloud design that I need the accounting code in place anyway.
So since the accounting code was next on the todo list, and I need it to finish the current todo item, cloud mining, that means account is what I'll be working on as soon as I test the current changes and get them live, once I'm back.

Sweet thanks for the information. Cant wait to see the new updates! good luck on you trip and safe travels. Posts of picks of Bitmain if you were able to go.

[kano]

Block! by jimmy

[wmabern_Work]

Block! by jimmy

Cool beans! First BLOCK of the day!!

More, more, more... 

[philipma1957]

for 3 blocks  i got only 0.003  after 3 days   with 26 th  that s not good

and you ramped up from and average of 0 to an average of 26  which takes about 3 days.  you should be at .004 to .005 for your next block

I am ramped up at about the same as you

sine in and go to this link

https://www.kano.is/index.php?k=mpayouts

Block..........Time..............Block reward......................................................................... .....Hash rate..........Reward



484095   8/Sep 00:49   13.24608911   4.641T   71hr 29m 6s   77.46PHs   0.04%   1.714G   28.60THs   0.00489029
484011   7/Sep 13:17   13.57028675   4.630T   71hr 32m 3s   77.23PHs   0.04%   1.718G   28.65THs   0.00503417
483998   7/Sep 11:41   15.58922403   4.632T   71hr 34m 1s   77.21PHs   0.04%   1.719G   28.65THs   0.00578426
483792   6/Sep 05:28   12.87822264   4.496T   69hr 38m 33s   77.02PHs   0.04%   1.606G   27.51THs   0.00459966
483730   5/Sep 22:05   14.13206370   4.448T   68hr 53m 6s   77.03PHs   0.03%   1.553G   26.90THs   0.00493540
483685   5/Sep 17:28   13.64104615   4.476T   69hr 12m 52s   77.14PHs   0.03%   1.533G   26.42THs   0.00467138
483669   5/Sep 15:39   16.09749667   4.469T   69hr 3m 1s   77.21PHs   0.03%   1.519G   26.24THs   0.00547106
483600   5/Sep 07:01   14.81441906   4.492T   68hr 58m 37s   77.70PHs   0.03%   1.519G   26.28THs   0.00501104
483326   3/Sep 17:20   17.11634177   4.493T   67hr 51m 26s   78.99PHs   0.03%   1.500G   26.37THs   0.00571381
483325   3/Sep 16:44   16.77570587   4.453T   67hr 14m 58s   79.00PHs   0.03%   1.487G   26.37THs   0.00560101
483139   2/Sep 11:02   13.51690705   4.446T   67hr 38m 38s   78.41PHs   0.03%   1.391G   24.53THs   0.00422924
483094   2/Sep 04:18   14.47914636   4.475T   68hr 13m 40s   78.25PHs   0.03%   1.415G   24.73THs   0.0045766

Block........Block UTC.......Miner Reward......N Diff.........N Range______Pool N Avg___Your %____Your N Diff____Your N Avg___Your BTC
484360.....9/Sep 14:09...14.12471596.......4.662T.......71hr 6m 56s.....78.22PHs.......0.03%.......1.562G............26.21THs........0.00473226


Since you spent enough time your latest reward should be very much like mine  just above

[wmabern_Work]

Since you spent enough time your latest reward should be very much like mine  just above

Yeah, I'm curious to see what he got also. Mine looked like this:

Block   Block UTC        Miner Reward   N Diff   N Range     Pool N Avg   Your %   Your N Diff      Your N Avg   Your BTC
484360   9/Sep 14:09   14.12471596   4.662T   71hr 6m 56s   78.22PHs   0.07%   3.495G     58.63THs       0.01058700

[btccash24]

Is there any affiliate programm ?

[wmabern_Work]

Is there any affiliate programm ?

Affiliate program for the pool as in someone joins the pool using your ID as a reference or something of that sort? And you get something in return?
Not that I'm aware of.

[wmabern_Work]

Block........Block UTC.......Miner Reward......N Diff.........N Range______Pool N Avg___Your %____Your N Diff____Your N Avg___Your BTC
484360.....9/Sep 14:09...14.12471596.......4.662T.......71hr 6m 56s.....78.22PHs.......0.03%.......1.562G............26.21THs........0.00473226

Since you spent enough time your latest reward should be very much like mine  just above

That person might have left the pool. Not sure what their user name is, but there is no one with the user name, "je_mario" running ~ 26TH on the "Stats" page. Be a shame if they did before reaching their 5Nd. A lot of people just don't understand why they are making very small amounts at first and quickly run off before reaching their potential.  
Of course, might have a different miner/worker name.

And having to explain the 5Nd to every new miner who comes calling to the pool gets REALLY tiresome! They payouts page helps a little, but I'm sure it can also be confusing to a newbie. Oh well, what can ya do.... I imagine the foreign language speakers have the most trouble.

Anyway.... COMEONBLOCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

[wmabern]

That person might have left the pool. Not sure what their user name is, but there is no one with the user name, "je_mario" running ~ 26TH on the "Stats" page. Be a shame if they did before reaching their 5Nd. A lot of people just don't understand why they are making very small amounts at first and quickly run off before reaching their potential.  
Of course, might have a different miner/worker name.

And having to explain the 5Nd to every new miner who comes calling to the pool gets REALLY tiresome! They payouts page helps a little, but I'm sure it can also be confusing to a newbie. Oh well, what can ya do.... I imagine the foreign language speakers have the most trouble.

Anyway.... COMEONBLOCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

Maybe when a user signs up for the pool and enters all of their information, they have to read a payout explanation and must scroll to the bottom of the explanation and fill a check box affirming and agreeing they understand the payout system?

Is that a stupid idea or over-kill? I just hate to lose miners from the pool because they don't understand why they are making "less" per block than they were making at XXX pool when they first start and just go back to the "other" pool.

Even if they are small miners, every little bit helps us to our goal of cracking blocks.

Well, that's my early-afternoon-dumb-idea for the day.  

Mine On!  

[ztianf]

Maybe when a user signs up for the pool and enters all of their information, they have to read a payout explanation and must scroll to the bottom of the explanation and fill a check box affirming and agreeing they understand the payout system?

Is that a stupid idea or over-kill? I just hate to lose miners from the pool because they don't understand why they are making "less" per block than they were making at XXX pool when they first start and just go back to the "other" pool.

Even if they are small miners, every little bit helps us to our goal of cracking blocks.

Well, that's my early-afternoon-dumb-idea for the day.  

Mine On!  

You don't have to register at the pool, so don't see the point of having a check box

But a more visual explanation of the ramp-up time could maybe turn on the lights for some more easily?

[firetreeactual]

Not a dumb idea...but, after decades in user support, I have some doubts as to whether it would really solve the problem.

[wmabern]

You don't have to register at the pool, so don't see the point of having a check box

But a more visual explanation of the ramp-up time could maybe turn on the lights for some more easily?

You don't have to register, but as it says on the 2nd line of the main home page, "The pool doesn't require registration for basic use but includes indepth stats for registered miners."

So, it makes sense to register to me. Some people might be wary of registering because "big brother" is watching... Whatever...

Anyway, I was just throwing a thought out there. 

[wmabern]

Not a dumb idea...but, after decades in user support, I have some doubts as to whether it would really solve the problem.

Yea, I know what you mean. I have been in the IT field for decades and usually it's just easier to do something myself than trying to explain something to someone who has the attention span of a... what was I saying?   

Ready for a Block-Taculer afternoon! 

[mousehouse]

Not a dumb idea...but, after decades in user support, I have some doubts as to whether it would really solve the problem.

Yea, I know what you mean. I have been in the IT field for decades and usually it's just easier to do something myself than trying to explain something to someone who has the attention span of a... what was I saying?   

"Hamster" is the word you're looking for

[wmabern]

BLOCK!!!     

[mawk01]

Another Block..

[lakerunner22]

Hello Lengendary and Hero users. Newbie here. There is no need to explain hardly anything in my opinion. There are 1418 pages of information for anyone who really wants to learn. To lazy to read and experiment maybe you shouldn't be mining. Just my thoughts no one has to agree. 

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Hello Lengendary and Hero users. Newbie here. There is no need to explain hardly anything in my opinion. There are 1418 pages of information for anyone who really wants to learn. To lazy to read and experiment maybe you shouldn't be mining. Just my thoughts no one has to agree.  

+1
Might not *have* to agree but but damnit... There is this wonderful thing called "search" that way too many folks seem to have never heard of and/or are too lazy to use...

As the Newb posted: The information folks need IS here. Just search and sift through it. Who knows, in the process you might even come across answers to other questions you will have...