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September 13, 2016, 01:59:24 PM Last edit: September 13, 2016, 02:09:57 PM by sp_ |
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1 GHASH of LBRY is currently paying 0.02085BTC 1 980ti can do 300MHASH with my mod. 0.3*0.02085 = 0,006255BTC = $3.787 - 3.3%= $3.66 1 980ti can do 230MHASH with the opensource 0.25*0.02085 = 0,0052125BTC = $3.148355 Increased Profit per card per day: +$0,513674
I have 1.25gh its paying .019btc a day!But you have 980ti and 970 cards right? Then you can boost to 1.4 gh and getting 0.024btc per day with the sp-mod #3 0.05 more btc per day. 20 days to roi Sorry for the late response sp. Are those hashrates at stock clocks? And do you hash with it? 300 on the 980ti is with OC. Coreclock set to 1550-1600, with the opensource you cannot set the core to 1550. it will crash. The highest I got was around 1450.
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1 GHASH of LBRY is currently paying 0.02085BTC 1 980ti can do 300MHASH with my mod. 0.3*0.02085 = 0,006255BTC = $3.787 - 3.3%= $3.66 1 980ti can do 230MHASH with the opensource 0.25*0.02085 = 0,0052125BTC = $3.148355 Increased Profit per card per day: +$0,513674
I have 1.25gh its paying .019btc a day!But you have 980ti and 970 cards right? Then you can boost to 1.4 gh and getting 0.024btc per day with the sp-mod #3 0.05 more btc per day. 20 days to roi Sorry for the late response sp. Are those hashrates at stock clocks? And do you hash with it? 300 on the 980ti is with OC. Coreclock set to 1550-1600, with the opensource you cannot set the core to 1550. it will crash. The highest I got was around 1450. Ok thx I can't oc them. And just curious would you mine with that 2% of the time?
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September 13, 2016, 02:46:10 PM |
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1 GHASH of LBRY is currently paying 0.02085BTC 1 980ti can do 300MHASH with my mod. 0.3*0.02085 = 0,006255BTC = $3.787 - 3.3%= $3.66 1 980ti can do 230MHASH with the opensource 0.25*0.02085 = 0,0052125BTC = $3.148355 Increased Profit per card per day: +$0,513674
I have 1.25gh its paying .019btc a day!But you have 980ti and 970 cards right? Then you can boost to 1.4 gh and getting 0.024btc per day with the sp-mod #3 0.05 more btc per day. 20 days to roi Sorry for the late response sp. Are those hashrates at stock clocks? And do you hash with it? 300 on the 980ti is with OC. Coreclock set to 1550-1600, with the opensource you cannot set the core to 1550. it will crash. The highest I got was around 1450. Ok thx I can't oc them. And just curious would you mine with that 2% of the time? 2 minutes per hour donation mining. Fixed intensity at -i 23 so perhaps lower hashrate and power than you would like to have.
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1 GHASH of LBRY is currently paying 0.02085BTC 1 980ti can do 300MHASH with my mod. 0.3*0.02085 = 0,006255BTC = $3.787 - 3.3%= $3.66 1 980ti can do 230MHASH with the opensource 0.25*0.02085 = 0,0052125BTC = $3.148355 Increased Profit per card per day: +$0,513674
I have 1.25gh its paying .019btc a day!But you have 980ti and 970 cards right? Then you can boost to 1.4 gh and getting 0.024btc per day with the sp-mod #3 0.05 more btc per day. 20 days to roi Sorry for the late response sp. Are those hashrates at stock clocks? And do you hash with it? 300 on the 980ti is with OC. Coreclock set to 1550-1600, with the opensource you cannot set the core to 1550. it will crash. The highest I got was around 1450. Ok thx I can't oc them. And just curious would you mine with that 2% of the time? 2 minutes per hour donation mining. Fixed intensity at -i 23 so perhaps lower hashrate and power than you would like to have. I will never buy a build that the dev can mine with... maybe I have and that maybe part of why my miners crashs. -i 23 to high.
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September 13, 2016, 03:15:45 PM |
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I will never buy a build that the dev can mine with... maybe I have and that maybe part of why my miners crashs. -i 23 to high.
My kernel does -i 29 stable on the 980ti. -i 23 is low in a no memory algo.
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Bit disappointed. Initial experience with SPs LBRY miner, on a 970 it does 6% more and on a 1070, it does 9% more without changing clocks (this does not include the 3.3% dev fee). Tried messing with intensity, it didn't really change anything.
On a 970 I get 156@1450 with Epsylons and with SP I get 167@1450.
Each 970 does use 17w less of power and have less TDP as has been reported, in addition to MCU being at 0%. However I don't intend in creating special configurations for each one of my miners to mine this algo, so the 'hidden potential' of this miner seems to be lost on my setup.
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September 13, 2016, 05:26:42 PM |
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Run the 970 on 1550 and lower the memclock. What do you get?
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September 13, 2016, 06:55:36 PM |
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Testing sp_#3 at MRR with 4x970. TDP 92-97%, minerside 178MH/ gpu. I will just let it run and see where it goes. http://rig.rent/rigs/33298
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SP_mod3: running 150x GTX970 @ ~ 1200 Clock / TDP ~50%
= 100 Watt for 135-155 MH/s, for me its the best watt/hash ratio so far.. i can put 5 rigs(with 6 cards each) on one 230V/16(A) wire...
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September 13, 2016, 09:12:11 PM |
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Run the 970 on 1550 and lower the memclock. What do you get?
I understand that's what you're telling everyone to do, but I'm not going to readjust all my overclocks which work with any algo for Lbry. If I want to switch off Lbry I'll have to change them all back again. Sorta surprised you can't make the cards work harder and use up that free TDP besides having users manually OC. To be fair Epsylons Lbry miner is the 'hardest working' miner I've had to use as far as stability of clocks, even though the watt usage isn't that high compared to say NeoS. I had clocks that were stable with NeoS that I had to readjust for Lbry. I'll still probably use it and it will probably pay off shooting me a extra 5% and energy savings over the course of a month billing period for energy, but I wouldn't recommend this for small miners with a couple GPUs in a rig. The upfront cost is too high for what it's doing. Although if you have a small farm it would be much easier to manage your OCs and you'll be able to get more out of this.
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September 13, 2016, 09:39:38 PM |
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Run the 970 on 1550 and lower the memclock. What do you get?
I understand that's what you're telling everyone to do, but I'm not going to readjust all my overclocks which work with any algo for Lbry. If I want to switch off Lbry I'll have to change them all back again. Sorta surprised you can't make the cards work harder and use up that free TDP besides having users manually OC. To be fair Epsylons Lbry miner is the 'hardest working' miner I've had to use as far as stability of clocks, even though the watt usage isn't that high compared to say NeoS. I had clocks that were stable with NeoS that I had to readjust for Lbry. I'll still probably use it and it will probably pay off shooting me a extra 5% and energy savings over the course of a month billing period for energy, but I wouldn't recommend this for small miners with a couple GPUs in a rig. The upfront cost is too high for what it's doing. Although if you have a small farm it would be much easier to manage your OCs and you'll be able to get more out of this. Totally agree. Same results on the 970 as you. What makes me think it's the behaviour, these stratum reconnection issues are simply weird. I should test with a better internet connection but given my actual configuration, wifi sticks, this private kernel from sp it's worse than the opensource from tpruvot, due the fee and the instability caused by the stratum reconnections. The kernel from tpruvot it's rock solid, tested on 5 platforms with different kinds of 1070's since a month. I highly suggest to remove the fee, which is the source of the issues. I would be willing to pay more, without having such an instable kernel. If this is the tipology of software from now on sp, I won't be purchasing more. Sorry.
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September 13, 2016, 11:06:50 PM |
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Run the 970 on 1550 and lower the memclock. What do you get?
I understand that's what you're telling everyone to do, but I'm not going to readjust all my overclocks which work with any algo for Lbry. If I want to switch off Lbry I'll have to change them all back again. Sorta surprised you can't make the cards work harder and use up that free TDP besides having users manually OC. To be fair Epsylons Lbry miner is the 'hardest working' miner I've had to use as far as stability of clocks, even though the watt usage isn't that high compared to say NeoS. I had clocks that were stable with NeoS that I had to readjust for Lbry. I'll still probably use it and it will probably pay off shooting me a extra 5% and energy savings over the course of a month billing period for energy, but I wouldn't recommend this for small miners with a couple GPUs in a rig. The upfront cost is too high for what it's doing. Although if you have a small farm it would be much easier to manage your OCs and you'll be able to get more out of this. Totally agree. Same results on the 970 as you. What makes me think it's the behaviour, these stratum reconnection issues are simply weird. I should test with a better internet connection but given my actual configuration, wifi sticks, this private kernel from sp it's worse than the opensource from tpruvot, due the fee and the instability caused by the stratum reconnections. The kernel from tpruvot it's rock solid, tested on 5 platforms with different kinds of 1070's since a month. I highly suggest to remove the fee, which is the source of the issues. I would be willing to pay more, without having such an instable kernel. If this is the tipology of software from now on sp, I won't be purchasing more. Sorry. I haven't completely migrated over to the new miner, but as I mentioned this happens with Epsylons. I talked with MRR months ago and they said this was a issue with the miner not supporting stratum redirection. I reported this both in Nanashi's, Epsylons, and in this thread... no one looked into it. The go around right now is to use the dynamic port that is listed in the 'reconnecting' dialogue. That's not a fix though. Here is the response I received from MRR. MRR: "Your miner needs to be able to handle client.reconnect command, which in this case it looks as if it does not. there may be an option to enable it, please consult your miner software. please note that the rig port may change if it has not been active in two days." So the dynamic port changes if you change off the algo and back again. That aside, it looks like the miner works fine with the dynamic port if you type it in manually. You may not have the same issues as me. I have a pretty good internet connection, so I don't get a lot of reconnects. SP if 'everytime there is a reconnect the dev fee restarts' is the code you're using right now, why not just make the dev fee restart if the reconnect happens during the dev fee mine? Furthermore, you could just 'suspend' the time when it disconnects until a reconnect. So if it disconnects for a second, you +1 second to dev fee mine. There are a lot of ways to fix this.
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September 14, 2016, 12:59:13 AM |
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with public 1.8.1 I couldn't keep my 5 x 1070 rig stable even at stock clocks, worked fine with 4 cards
I've only had SP's for a couple hours and its been 100% stable so far, about 1410 MHs at 872watts at the wall, probably can be tweaked further
is there much I should be tweaking on 1070s other than core clock, power limit and intensity?
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September 14, 2016, 01:32:34 AM |
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with public 1.8.1 I couldn't keep my 5 x 1070 rig stable even at stock clocks, worked fine with 4 cards
I've only had SP's for a couple hours and its been 100% stable so far, about 1410 MHs at 872watts at the wall, probably can be tweaked further
is there much I should be tweaking on 1070s other than core clock, power limit and intensity?
Probably not what you want to hear, but you need a better PSU. Stock clocks should be stable on Epsylons... Overclocks on the other hand... Expect at max for 1070s to draw 200w~. 120w for the system. You're looking at probably a 1200w PSU.
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September 14, 2016, 05:04:03 AM |
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I will never buy a build that the dev can mine with... maybe I have and that maybe part of why my miners crashs. -i 23 to high.
I'd not buy one either unless it's something really and I mean reeeaaalllyyy good. But, even if it was free but the miner starts mining for the dev for 2 minutes first I wouldn't use it because I tend to switch between algos frequently. With all the dual mining crap around I'd expect a fee based miner to mine for the dev in parallel, on another thread with very low intensity or just mine for the dev for a few seconds every couple minutes. Starting with a two minute downtime after every disconnect is just too much for me personally. I can't code for shit but monetizing a profitable miner could be done so much better...
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September 14, 2016, 10:34:48 AM |
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Probably not what you want to hear, but you need a better PSU. Stock clocks should be stable on Epsylons... Overclocks on the other hand...
Expect at max for 1070s to draw 200w~. 120w for the system. You're looking at probably a 1200w PSU.
Oh yeah I knew that, I only have a 1000w in this system and was trying to work with what I have, and SPs miner was way cheaper than a new PSU
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September 14, 2016, 01:31:31 PM |
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Testing sp_#3 at MRR with 4x970. TDP 92-97%, minerside 178MH/ gpu. I will just let it run and see where it goes. http://rig.rent/rigs/33298Looking good. High average rates
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September 14, 2016, 01:53:03 PM |
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Guessing Nik bought it from Scrypt... He isn't responding because you didn't buy it from him.
CCminer has a bug with MRR, you have to use the dynamic port it tries to reconnect to as it doesn't tolerate stratum redirection for some reason. Epsylons version has this bug as well.
Still saying SP you should lower fee to 2% and it should be a free release.
I agree, but with the kernel from epsylon you haven't got a fee, and a "forced donation" the first 4 minutes it starts, or reconnects. There might be an issue in #3. If you loose connection for a long time, it will switch to donation mining and do another 4mins. 4 minutes for me 116 for you. if you loose connection within the 116mins, the process restarts. (if you use the -R reconnect parameter in the bat, you should put it to a high value or remove it.) With -R 5 it will try to reconnect to your pool 5 times. If you try to connect to mrr, you need to specify first the general port, so MRR itself suggests the correct one later. Doing this, means that you donate, every single time, to sp; if you choose a wrong port then, the donation time it's almost 100%, because of it reconnects then to the sp hidden pool (the "donation, or better to say paying, one") The donations timer shouldn't be placed first, but last; 116.4 minutes to me and LATER 3.3% to you, not the opposite. Will you continue to use this system or will you change it in the next release? As you can see there's a general opinion against these kind of methods of remuneration, from your customers. I could think that these could be intentional, but I want to believe that it's not. This fee miner isn't working properly and I'm absolutely not satisfied with it. I've just restrted my machines with tpruvot 1.8.1 open source, having paid for yours.
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September 14, 2016, 02:42:15 PM |
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You should replace your wifi stick with a normal cable link and mine on another pool. I will improve the donation code in #4.
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September 14, 2016, 02:59:57 PM |
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Sure I will, but have a look at these issues because starting the forced-payment immediately it creates too many issues.
I cannot even check the number of shares my rig it's sending, because of the 4 minutes lag; if you add the warmup and the downtime we land in the 5 mins territory. Too much.
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