CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official] Developments & Discussions

[tokeweed]

BTW: B4zz4, I haven't posted in a while, but I have been reading the forums every day.  Before I forget, I want to take this opportunity to commend you for all of your hard work, dedication and, above all, patience.  You write with a level of maturity and professionalism that I have not seen from DEV teams of any of the other coins I happen to follow.  It's quite refreshing and I wanted to thank you.  You fill a very important PR role for the CANN community and it should not go unnoticed.

However, on a bit of a related side-note, I do have one criticism of the CANN team on its use of the "YESWECANN" user account.  There is a stark contrast between the level of maturity, professionalism and patience between B4zz4 and the "YESWECANN" user accounts as evidenced from their notably different writing styles.  I would highly recommend that B4zz4 take full control of that "YESWECANN" user account and suggest that whoever is currently authoring posts under YESWECANN to make / use their own accounts if they wish to go on the defensive of some of trolling BS postings, or provide their own personal thoughts / opinions.  

Please don't take this as a personal knock on Heather or whoever else uses that account, but I've seen posts coming from YESWECANN that appeared to be emotionally-induced knee-jerk reactions to complaints / criticisms / trolling.  It's human nature to defend all the hard-work and effort put into one's project; however, some of these emotionally-induced responses shouldn't come from an account that really needs to be viewed as the voice of the coin, the voice of the hard-work that has gone into the project -- ultimately the voice behind the mission and what CANN stands for -- not the voice or biased opinions of the individuals behind the coin / project.  

Every community will have its good and bad apples, but it shouldn't be the YESWECANN account making the distinctions on who's a douche-bag.  IMO, that's not good for "community building".  All that does is bring the YESWECANN user account down to the level of those doing the trolling and it's completely unnecessary and counter-productive.  Trust me, the community will know who's a twat and will help spread the word.  It just doesn't need to come from YESWECANN.  If the DEVs (as individuals) wish to speak their mind, respond to criticism or call out trolls when they see 'em, they should do so from their own personal user accounts -- not the official "YESWECANN" account.  YESWECANN needs to be above it all and speak "officially" about project related topics -- just as any PR professional or publicist would do/suggest.  

YESWECANN does have a little growing up to do and I really think there's no better person than B4zz4 to help bring that missing level maturity and professionalism to the "voice" of the project.  We shouldn't have it seem (even in the least bit) like the YESWECANN account is ever phased "emotionally" by what any trolling dipshit has to say.

Anyway, just my long-winded opinion.  

Nah.  Heather is cool.  She's the type who speaks her mind.  A rare trait these days...

[B4zz4]

Since you put it that way...  I'll figure it out.

Thanks.

So I guess you guys don't develop the code any further?  No activity in your Github.

There's not much purpose in development for development's sake so nothing will be pushed to GitHub unless changes are being made.

Just about all development work is taking place in the real world at the moment and that is keeping most of the team pretty busy (I'm the idle Aussie on the far side of the world ).

[tokeweed]

Since you put it that way...  I'll figure it out.

Thanks.

So I guess you guys don't develop the code any further?  No activity in your Github.

There's not much purpose in development for development's sake so nothing will be pushed to GitHub unless changes are being made.

Just about all development work is taking place in the real world at the moment and that is keeping most of the team pretty busy (I'm the idle Aussie on the far side of the world ).

I shut down my PC, I got windows 7, 4gb of RAM, no other wallets running, no autostart.  But still a 3 minute splash screen...  Can something be done fixing this via patching the software?  I think there should be..  None technical people and patients will be using this, so it's important that the whole experience goes smooth as possible.

[YESWECANN]

Since you put it that way...  I'll figure it out.

Thanks.

So I guess you guys don't develop the code any further?  No activity in your Github.

There's not much purpose in development for development's sake so nothing will be pushed to GitHub unless changes are being made.

Just about all development work is taking place in the real world at the moment and that is keeping most of the team pretty busy (I'm the idle Aussie on the far side of the world ).

I shut down my PC, I got windows 7, 4gb of RAM, no other wallets running, no autostart.  But still a 3 minute splash screen...  Can something be done fixing this via patching the software?  I think there should be..  None technical people and patients will be using this, so it's important that the whole experience goes smooth as possible.

Took 62 secs here on my end...  pretty decent and quick for large blockchain.  Win7 16gb w/SSD with outlook, Skype, Kaspersky, and adobe reader running

[wareck]

Since today CANN is disabled in BITTREX exchange...
Is this normal or not, there was no message explain it will be disabled...

[tokeweed]

Since you put it that way...  I'll figure it out.

Thanks.

So I guess you guys don't develop the code any further?  No activity in your Github.

There's not much purpose in development for development's sake so nothing will be pushed to GitHub unless changes are being made.

Just about all development work is taking place in the real world at the moment and that is keeping most of the team pretty busy (I'm the idle Aussie on the far side of the world ).

I shut down my PC, I got windows 7, 4gb of RAM, no other wallets running, no autostart.  But still a 3 minute splash screen...  Can something be done fixing this via patching the software?  I think there should be..  None technical people and patients will be using this, so it's important that the whole experience goes smooth as possible.

Took 62 secs here on my end...  pretty decent and quick for large blockchain.  Win7 16gb w/SSD with outlook, Skype, Kaspersky, and adobe reader running

What about for people who have crappy hardware and short on funds to buy new ones?  3 minute splash screens?  Won't that turn the majority off?

You got a list of core developers.  Can't they figure something out?

Edit:  And 62 seconds to boot up in your hardware is also not so good.

[B4zz4]

Since today CANN is disabled in BITTREX exchange...
Is this normal or not, there was no message explain it will be disabled...

Looks like it was down for about 5 hours but seems to be OK from Aus.

[tokeweed]

Since today CANN is disabled in BITTREX exchange...
Is this normal or not, there was no message explain it will be disabled...

Wallet to be removed on 6/5. Please withdraw all funds immediately.

Inactve   MWC   226944   0   35 minutes   Sun Jul 26 2015 05:22:28 GMT+0800
Inactve   CANN   840276   8   0 minutes   Sun Jul 26 2015 05:24:03 GMT+0800
Inactve   FC2   564038   14   0 minutes   Sun Jul 26 2015 05:22:37 GMT+0800
Inactve   SSD   554325   12   3 minutes   Sun Jul 26 2015 05:22:19 GMT+0800
Inactve   J   95084   13   0 minutes   Sun Jul 26 2015 05:23:31 GMT+0800
Inactve   ULTC   105756   6

from https://bittrex.com/Status

What's going on guys?  Will CANN be delisted on Bittrex?  

[B4zz4]

Since you put it that way...  I'll figure it out.

Thanks.

So I guess you guys don't develop the code any further?  No activity in your Github.

There's not much purpose in development for development's sake so nothing will be pushed to GitHub unless changes are being made.

Just about all development work is taking place in the real world at the moment and that is keeping most of the team pretty busy (I'm the idle Aussie on the far side of the world ).

I shut down my PC, I got windows 7, 4gb of RAM, no other wallets running, no autostart.  But still a 3 minute splash screen...  Can something be done fixing this via patching the software?  I think there should be..  None technical people and patients will be using this, so it's important that the whole experience goes smooth as possible.

Took 62 secs here on my end...  pretty decent and quick for large blockchain.  Win7 16gb w/SSD with outlook, Skype, Kaspersky, and adobe reader running

What about for people who have crappy hardware and short on funds to buy new ones?  3 minute splash screens?  Won't that turn the majority off?

You got a list of core developers.  Can't they figure something out?

Edit:  And 62 seconds to boot up in your hardware is also not so good.

I haven't managed to replicate the problem yet but if people are truly so short of funds I'm sure they'll wait 3 minutes to access tokeweed.

Give windows a while to finish its security patches (I don't use it often) & then I'll try to get the problem replicated & fixed.

As they say, thank you for remaining patient, your call is important to us

[tokeweed]

Since you put it that way...  I'll figure it out.

Thanks.

So I guess you guys don't develop the code any further?  No activity in your Github.

There's not much purpose in development for development's sake so nothing will be pushed to GitHub unless changes are being made.

Just about all development work is taking place in the real world at the moment and that is keeping most of the team pretty busy (I'm the idle Aussie on the far side of the world ).

I shut down my PC, I got windows 7, 4gb of RAM, no other wallets running, no autostart.  But still a 3 minute splash screen...  Can something be done fixing this via patching the software?  I think there should be..  None technical people and patients will be using this, so it's important that the whole experience goes smooth as possible.

Took 62 secs here on my end...  pretty decent and quick for large blockchain.  Win7 16gb w/SSD with outlook, Skype, Kaspersky, and adobe reader running

What about for people who have crappy hardware and short on funds to buy new ones?  3 minute splash screens?  Won't that turn the majority off?

You got a list of core developers.  Can't they figure something out?

Edit:  And 62 seconds to boot up in your hardware is also not so good.

I haven't managed to replicate the problem yet but if people are truly so short of funds I'm sure they'll wait 3 minutes to access tokeweed.

So that's it?  No trying to improve the software from your end?

[B4zz4]

Since today CANN is disabled in BITTREX exchange...
Is this normal or not, there was no message explain it will be disabled...

Wallet to be removed on 6/5. Please withdraw all funds immediately.

Inactve   MWC   226944   0   35 minutes   Sun Jul 26 2015 05:22:28 GMT+0800
Inactve   CANN   840276   8   0 minutes   Sun Jul 26 2015 05:24:03 GMT+0800
Inactve   FC2   564038   14   0 minutes   Sun Jul 26 2015 05:22:37 GMT+0800
Inactve   SSD   554325   12   3 minutes   Sun Jul 26 2015 05:22:19 GMT+0800
Inactve   J   95084   13   0 minutes   Sun Jul 26 2015 05:23:31 GMT+0800
Inactve   ULTC   105756   6

from https://bittrex.com/Status

What's going on guys?  Will CANN be delisted on Bittrex?  

That's UNAT & ULTC that have delisting notices, not the entire block

[B4zz4]

So that's it?  No trying to improve the software from your end?

Settle down, still haven't even got 'doze 7 finished updating yet, so can't try to replicate your problem.

And no, tweaking the wallet is not a priority at this time.

[tokeweed]

So that's it?  No trying to improve the software from your end?

Settle down, still haven't even got 'doze 7 finished updating yet, so can't try to replicate your problem.

And no, tweaking the wallet is not a priority at this time.

Thanks.  Really appreciate it...  Anyway, have to go to dinner then out.  Enjoy the rest of the weekend guys!

[YESWECANN]

So that's it?  No trying to improve the software from your end?

Settle down, still haven't even got 'doze 7 finished updating yet, so can't try to replicate your problem.

And no, tweaking the wallet is not a priority at this time.

Thanks.  Really appreciate it...  Anyway, have to go to dinner then out.  Enjoy the rest of the weekend guys!

Thanks you too

[B4zz4]

I don't know about the windows wallet taking a while to boot up, as it is set to boot with Windows but the android wallet took 7 days - that's right, an entire week (almost) - before it finally synced.
That's on a brand new ZTE Blade S6, no other apps installed.
It seems to sync fine for a while and then just freeze, had to be force stopped and then manually restarted.
It does work now, but it really isn't suitable for the "I-want-it-all-now" generation currently inhabiting crypto.
It also really isn't suitable as it stand for mass adoption either, too difficult and time-consuming for the man on the Clapham omnibus.

Perhaps an updated bootstrap for the Android wallet would help?

Sorry ASICrefugee, your post got overlooked there for a bit.

I've already booked a review & possible update for Android for that very reason. Will see if I can stir that particular possum this week.

It is on the books though.

Cheers from the land down-under.

[ASICrefugee]

I don't know about the windows wallet taking a while to boot up, as it is set to boot with Windows but the android wallet took 7 days - that's right, an entire week (almost) - before it finally synced.
That's on a brand new ZTE Blade S6, no other apps installed.
It seems to sync fine for a while and then just freeze, had to be force stopped and then manually restarted.
It does work now, but it really isn't suitable for the "I-want-it-all-now" generation currently inhabiting crypto.
It also really isn't suitable as it stand for mass adoption either, too difficult and time-consuming for the man on the Clapham omnibus.

Perhaps an updated bootstrap for the Android wallet would help?

Sorry ASICrefugee, your post got overlooked there for a bit.

I've already booked a review & possible update for Android for that very reason. Will see if I can stir that particular possum this week.

It is on the books though.

Cheers from the land down-under.

Cool man, thanks for the update.
I know it won't be a priority, what with all the rest of the stuff you guys have going on just now, but it IS the sort of thing that needs to be either simplified (bootstrap) or more nodes added to speed up the process.
Mass market adoption is coming and the easier we make it for non-crypto punters to use and spend CannabisCoin the better.

On a separate note, perhaps http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33628363 shows the first green shoots of change.

Cheers, from a very cold and wet Scotland

[SGTxSTAYxGRIND]

I don't mean the syncing.  When I start the wallet it takes a good 3 minutes before the wallet actually starts.

Wow, a full 3 minutes?? ....where's my pitch-fork and lynch mob?  


Maybe it's the wallet of all the weed-coins, but I don't think CANN's wallet is any slower that the others I have.

Yea it takes me about the same amount of time, even when i had a better cpu before i had to downgrade.

[SGTxSTAYxGRIND]

I don't know about the windows wallet taking a while to boot up, as it is set to boot with Windows but the android wallet took 7 days - that's right, an entire week (almost) - before it finally synced.
That's on a brand new ZTE Blade S6, no other apps installed.
It seems to sync fine for a while and then just freeze, had to be force stopped and then manually restarted.
It does work now, but it really isn't suitable for the "I-want-it-all-now" generation currently inhabiting crypto.
It also really isn't suitable as it stand for mass adoption either, too difficult and time-consuming for the man on the Clapham omnibus.

Perhaps an updated bootstrap for the Android wallet would help?

Sorry ASICrefugee, your post got overlooked there for a bit.

I've already booked a review & possible update for Android for that very reason. Will see if I can stir that particular possum this week.

It is on the books though.

Cheers from the land down-under.

Cool man, thanks for the update.
I know it won't be a priority, what with all the rest of the stuff you guys have going on just now, but it IS the sort of thing that needs to be either simplified (bootstrap) or more nodes added to speed up the process.
Mass market adoption is coming and the easier we make it for non-crypto punters to use and spend CannabisCoin the better.

On a separate note, perhaps http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33628363 shows the first green shoots of change.

Cheers, from a very cold and wet Scotland

Me and my room mate where having the same problem of the unexpected freezing while updating the chain.It wasn't a huge problem, just more of a nuisance than anything. Also if possible i am willing to donate one of my servers for network purposes, however its only an old PE2650 but having more nodes as suggested could help the "i-want-it-now's" as ASICrefugee cleverly put it

[B4zz4]

So that's it?  No trying to improve the software from your end?

Settle down, still haven't even got 'doze 7 finished updating yet, so can't try to replicate your problem.

And no, tweaking the wallet is not a priority at this time.

Thanks.  Really appreciate it...  Anyway, have to go to dinner then out.  Enjoy the rest of the weekend guys!

Hmm... I've configured virtualbox down to a single processor & 2Gb of RAM making 'doze 7 unbearably slow to try to use & so far I haven't managed to keep the wallet splash screen for a full 60 seconds.

How large is your debug.log file? - access it by hitting the Start button & typing (or pasting) %AppData%\Roaming\CannabisCoin into the search box, then click the offered link to get to \Users\[YourUserName]\AppData\Roaming\CannabisCoin. If you right-click debug.log Windows should offer to compress the file (or add it to archive or some such thing). If the resultant zip file is less than 2Mb you should have no trouble emailing it to b4zz4.code@yahoo.com (or @gmail.com, either will reach me). If 'doze can't compress the log sufficiently or your email service doesn't allow reasonable-sized attachments could you please upload it to a free file sharing site and send a link instead?

I'll try some more tomorrow to see if I can replicate your problem but your logs will probably be the quickest way to find where the wallet wanders off looking for sputnik, or whatever it is doing for the additional time.

Also, as soon as the splash screen clears could you open the wallet debug window and in the console type getconnectioncount and press enter, that will tell us how many connections you have at successful start.

[PoUpA]

James ... everybody is well informed of the pre-mine. You're the only one who got a problem with that. If the coin became successfull I think D9 will have earned that "pay". I don't think he want to make qucik money using this coin or else he would  already have sold the pre-mine. I think cann will be a huge project when everything will be set up correctly  but crypto is only a small part.
btw ... satoshi nakamoto mined around 1 million BTC at start