GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[bananafana]

If he had a shred of real business sense, he might have been able to make the coin work... wishful thinking right?  

How? Serious question. If they had told the truth about it (peercoin clone, huge premine, hardwired addresses get huge interest rates, shell of a website, no partnerships, no major fiat backing, no serious possibility of holding a $20 floor) it never would have gotten off the ground. He wouldn't have been able to get anyone buying at the "bargain" price of $4, much less load up at $10 just before the launch on the promise of doubling their money in a few days.

Now that they've officially abandoned any idea of holding a floor, and are desperately trying to claim they never uttered the word "partnership," what's the best case future? What are they promising now? Integration with a browser plugin that looks like it will deliver a truly awful shopping experience, with fees and no refunds and stuff you think you're ordering from one retailer actually coming from another. That's only if they can get around the Amazon TOS issues. Maybe a debit card, but there are plenty of bitcoin debit cards so that's no great thing. Nothing that would create any significant value.

You are right, everything that was done was completely fubar.

But...

If the notion for this coin and its technology were in the hands of someone capable, someone who could have made these things happen, could it have been useful?  

Short answer : NO
Long detailed answer : No effing way, Brah

I've got to agree with you, and suchmoon. It just fundamentally never made sense. It was never plausible that retailers like Amazon and Target would partner with some random new alt coin. It didn't make sense for investors to put millions into it (and non-imaginary investors would have wanted verification of those retailer partnerships). A real $20 floor was never plausible. The whitepaper was a joke.

When there's a market for it and consumers want it and retailers have a reason to be part of it, someone like the Winkle twins will do it with their deep pockets and business connections and armies of lawyers and lobbyists. It's not feasible yet though.

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[rokkyroad]

And there are still idiots nice people on HT who believe the whole purpose of Paycoin was for Josh&Co to hand them free hamburgers and somehow the whole plan went awry and it can still be fixed:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28732/wallet20-as-a-way-to-help-a-paycoin/10

I guess many who are caught up in this may never come to grips with the fact that the whole purpose of Paycoin was to take money out of their wallets and put it in Josh's.

I can understand people not coming to grips with: "Holy crap! My $10,000 investment is in the crapper". Denial, desperation, and straw grasping.

[TheThinTinMan]

Shit just got real

http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s406/hashtalk/shit_zpsf90dce5f.png

[CHAOSiTEC]

and it continues ...

edit lol, you where faster :-p

[interstellar]

And there are still idiots nice people on HT who believe the whole purpose of Paycoin was for Josh&Co to hand them free hamburgers and somehow the whole plan went awry and it can still be fixed:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28732/wallet20-as-a-way-to-help-a-paycoin/10

I guess many who are caught up in this may never come to grips with the fact that the whole purpose of Paycoin was to take money out of their wallets and put it in Josh's.

I can understand people not coming to grips with: "Holy crap! My $10,000 investment is in the crapper". Denial, desperation, and straw grasping.

Message to XPY bagholders:

If you see this message, please understand the current price of XPY at .011 is a gift. There is nothing holding this price up. Soon one by one, large bagholders will give up and try to minimize their losses by selling out their XPY on the exchanges. There will only be downward pressure.

If you are not one of the first ones, you will be left with absolutely nothing, just like most of the bagholders of the most recent ponzis (cryptodouble, weeklyponzi, etc). You're actually in the same boat as these guys but you may not realize it.

So you have to make a decision. This may very well be the last point of escape for XPY bagholders. The next wave of bad news is likely to push many over the edge to escape. All but the few to exit first will be left with nothing.

Think about it and be smart. Don't accept the false promises any longer. The clock is really ticking down now.  

[not.you]

Shit just got real

I like how even the drones are pushing back in the face of his bullshit now.

[Lukey_P]

this is 100% a 'message' to temp raise the price of the coin so he can dump a few 1000 more coins to the blind followers. Such a shame. How does he sleep at night.

[interstellar]

Shit just got real

I like how even the drones are pushing back in the face of his bullshit now.

To speak up like this would have been an instanta-perma ban and probably ip block in any time in HT's past history. We have really made strides it appears.

[bananafana]

and it continues ...

edit lol, you where faster :-p

He doubled down, editing it to:

Don't make a final determination just yet. Let's revisit this in 48 hours.

That's in response to whether the "$20 ship has sailed."  Let's revisit that in 48 hours. Bold move.

Sorry, too lazy to upload a screenshot.


EDIT: and he just added another comment to say: "You will not need to wait much longer"

[not.you]

this is 100% a 'message' to temp raise the price of the coin so he can dump a few 1000 more coins to the blind followers. Such a shame. How does he sleep at night.

Looks like it drove the volume up but not the price so far.

If I was a bag holder I would use this as my exit right now.

[ZiG]

And there are still idiots nice people on HT who believe the whole purpose of Paycoin was for Josh&Co to hand them free hamburgers and somehow the whole plan went awry and it can still be fixed:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28732/wallet20-as-a-way-to-help-a-paycoin/10

I guess many who are caught up in this may never come to grips with the fact that the whole purpose of Paycoin was to take money out of their wallets and put it in Josh's.

I can understand people not coming to grips with: "Holy crap! My $10,000 investment is in the crapper". Denial, desperation, and straw grasping.

Message to XPY bagholders:

If you see this message, please understand the current price of XPY at .011 is a gift. There is nothing holding this price up. Soon one by one, large bagholders will give up and try to minimize their losses by selling out their XPY on the exchanges. There will only be downward pressure.

If you are not one of the first ones, you will be left with absolutely nothing, just like most of the bagholders of the most recent ponzis (cryptodouble, weeklyponzi, etc). You're actually in the same boat as these guys but you may not realize it.

So you have to make a decision. This may very well be the last point of escape for XPY bagholders. The next wave of bad news is likely to push many over the edge to escape. All but the few to exit first will be left with nothing.

Think about it and be smart. The clock is really ticking down now.  

Why is Poop-coin going DOWN ...

Again...

ZiG

EDIT...:

I don't understand why the volume is INCREASING on the DOWN turn ... 

Just kidding...Clue : Trading 101 ...Increased volume MEANS significant move...

[owlcatz]

https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/553825994797486080

so i was trying to find where he did say that, as I could swear it was stated, and i found this, so i guess CCN scrubbed it... I tried checking google cache for a copy but nothing...

https://medium.com/@BTCtom/cryptocoinsnews-and-gaw-miners-sitting-in-a-tree-k-i-s-s-i-n-g-afe20eecc080

[TheThinTinMan]

Shit just got real

http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s406/hashtalk/shit_zpsf90dce5f.png

I like how even the drones are pushing back in the face of his bullshit now.

Jack isnt a drone, probably pushes more buttons than most anyway.  I haven't had reason to suspect he is at all.  You will find his posts get hidden and buried very fast.  Notice how GAW ignored it and the influx of dead shits posted afterwards all this happy shit.



Correction jackblacksparrow is shoadowbanned now.

[strangerdanger101]

and it continues ...

edit lol, you where faster :-p

[not.you]

Shit just got real

I like how even the drones are pushing back in the face of his bullshit now.

Jack isnt a drone, probably pushes more buttons than most anyway.  I haven't had reason to suspect he is at all.  You will find his posts get hidden and buried very fast.  Notice how GAW ignored it and the influx of dead shits posted afterwards all this happy shit.

I figured only drones were left over there at this point.  In truth I never read hashtrash or whatever it's called unless someone posts a link to something interesting in this thread.  So I have no idea who is who over there.

[TheThinTinMan]

Shit just got real

http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s406/hashtalk/shit_zpsf90dce5f.png

I like how even the drones are pushing back in the face of his bullshit now.

Jack isnt a drone, probably pushes more buttons than most anyway.  I haven't had reason to suspect he is at all.  You will find his posts get hidden and buried very fast.  Notice how GAW ignored it and the influx of dead shits posted afterwards all this happy shit.

I figured only drones were left over there at this point.  In truth I never read hashtrash or whatever it's called unless someone posts a link to something interesting in this thread.  So I have no idea who is who over there.

Fair enough, But I am seeing jack still post but nothings coming up. so I take it Josh has shadow banned him for posting that.

[interstellar]

We were prophets but few listened. Now we are merely witnesses like everyone else to the ruin to come.

[Paul Revere]

Market reaction to the latest load of bullshit from Josh:

[strangerdanger101]

Market reaction to the latest load of bullshit from Josh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M

[jackblacksparrow]

Shit just got real

I like how even the drones are pushing back in the face of his bullshit now.

Jack isnt a drone, probably pushes more buttons than most anyway.  I haven't had reason to suspect he is at all.  You will find his posts get hidden and buried very fast.  Notice how GAW ignored it and the influx of dead shits posted afterwards all this happy shit.

I figured only drones were left over there at this point.  In truth I never read hashtrash or whatever it's called unless someone posts a link to something interesting in this thread.  So I have no idea who is who over there.

Fair enough, But I am seeing jack still post but nothings coming up. so I take it Josh has shadow banned him for posting that.

Ease up noob, said I would always come here the day I got any ban from HT.  Guess I couldn't push the boundaries for the lemmings anymore.  Asking the questions that needed to be and stating things that even a 10 year old would understand what they are being told is bullshit. Now I have been promised he may look into my account - what for ? you shadow banned me. First time I have ever heard that being flagged bans you....it only puts a report in the system for a mod to check the post/thread I am not an idiot like lemmings yo,  I know and get along with your mods very very well, and probably why I haven't been banned at all till now.



Yes I am fully aware posting this wont get me unbanned but, I really don't care