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So.. if the SEC decides paycoin were an unregistered security... how does that work? For example, if you sell unregistered stocks in a company, do they declare the stock invalid? It seems that Josh is probably sitting on a couple million paycoins and even if he gets convicted of anything, he stands to walk away with a hefty chunk of money when everything has died down.
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April 19, 2015, 01:05:12 PM |
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One thing I have notice repeatedly is how MrGanza™ turns into a bully when he doesn't get his way. He always offended when others play honestly.
He was clearly going to cancel the order once he got his confirmation as he had no need for "real" miners since he had already moved on past that silly business to "always profitable" PNG's
I like this part. >>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Josh Garza < josh@btc.com> wrote: I did not realize you guys would not do it until the wire went out. So I look like a fool now. Narcissist much ? |
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April 19, 2015, 01:07:29 PM |
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One thing I have notice repeatedly is how MrGanza™ turns into a bully when he doesn't get his way. He always offended when others play honestly.
He was clearly going to cancel the order once he got his confirmation as he had no need for "real" miners since he had already moved on past that silly business to "always profitable" PNG's
I like this part. >>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Josh Garza < josh@btc.com> wrote: I did not realize you guys would not do it until the wire went out. So I look like a fool now. Narcissist much ? What is he referring to... what public announcements did he make around that time? |
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Xian01
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April 19, 2015, 01:16:45 PM |
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What is he referring to... what public announcements did he make around that time?
Long story short: Garza wanted Yoshi to make a statement that they had ordered 6PH worth of Bitmain product without paying for the order. |
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April 19, 2015, 01:17:45 PM |
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So.. if the SEC decides paycoin were an unregistered security... how does that work? For example, if you sell unregistered stocks in a company, do they declare the stock invalid? It seems that Josh is probably sitting on a couple million paycoins and even if he gets convicted of anything, he stands to walk away with a hefty chunk of money when everything has died down.
As soon as hosted miners went "virtual," they became an unregistered security, a securitization of whatever operations were generating the income. We now know all Hashlets were unregistered securites, too. I don't think Paycoin is. If it is, that means bitcoin is, which means a world of hurt for any legit bitcoin company. I imagine after he's convicted, there will be a civil suit. I'm not sure how enforcing a judgement/settlement works, but it may be difficult for him to extract money if he owes it in a court action. Coinbase and Cryptsy are both US Companies. He'd have to find a venue for selling his BTC/XPY, and the email record shows that he's burned a lot of those bridges. |
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April 19, 2015, 01:19:29 PM |
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So.. if the SEC decides paycoin were an unregistered security... how does that work? For example, if you sell unregistered stocks in a company, do they declare the stock invalid? It seems that Josh is probably sitting on a couple million paycoins and even if he gets convicted of anything, he stands to walk away with a hefty chunk of money when everything has died down.
This is why people commit financial crimes. However, is his wife naked being leaked on the internet, her sexual desire in masturbating to his friends and lack thereof in him, his children growing up with their father in prison, as well as all the other shit worth it? Money is just fucking paper dude. The damage he has caused is worth far more than he can be compensated. |
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April 19, 2015, 01:20:28 PM |
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So.. if the SEC decides paycoin were an unregistered security... how does that work? For example, if you sell unregistered stocks in a company, do they declare the stock invalid? It seems that Josh is probably sitting on a couple million paycoins and even if he gets convicted of anything, he stands to walk away with a hefty chunk of money when everything has died down.
They have a huge amount of discretion in how they proceed, for instance. The SEC is not the only agency involved, if you read their complaint carefully (and we have no way of knowing more) but they left the door open for more agencies to get involved. For instance paycoin may or maynot be an "unregistered security" then they could have another agency go after GAWS or whatever name "the boy genius" had the transactions under, for wire fraud, mail fraud and numerous other charges right up to RICO charges. Seizures of property and bank accounts are always an option. Look at how they handled Silk Road and other related matters. Or the SEC could simply wash their hands of the matter... which is highly unlikely. But I dont know what is going on behind the scenes, I guess we will find out when they are in the mood to let us know. |
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April 19, 2015, 01:29:08 PM |
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The world's fastest growing Bitcoin exchange has had 0.005 BTC of XPY volume in the last 24 hours. That's 1 dollar.
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April 19, 2015, 01:45:33 PM |
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Carlos Garza $865.39 he was not on the payroll? |
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April 19, 2015, 01:50:19 PM |
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 Homero and his rent a jet inculding photographer to arrive in vegas in "style" What a fart, renting Lambos in Florida and Jets to Vegas for what reason?  -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Fwd: FW: Charter Quote Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:27:59 -0400 From: Juliette Dunlevy < juliette@geniusesatwork.com> To: Josh Garza < josh@geniusesatwork.com> *$46,325.00 from Hartford to MS to Vegas + $26,705.00 from Vegas to Hartford = $**73,030.00 ALL IN INCLUDING ALL TAXES AND FEES.* ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Michael Mckeough* < mmckeough@bluestarjets.com <mailto:mmckeough@bluestarjets.com>> Date: Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:18 AM Subject: FW: Charter Quote To: Juliette Dunlevy < juliette@geniusesatwork.com <mailto:juliette@geniusesatwork.com>> Cc: Joe D < joed@bluestarjets.com <mailto:joed@bluestarjets.com>>
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April 19, 2015, 01:54:59 PM |
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So that's where Mordica appears
Joe Mordica (1201) $8,307.00
$100k isn't great for a CTO, but it could be with the right bonus structure and/or crypto payments.
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April 19, 2015, 01:55:08 PM |
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April 19, 2015, 01:59:24 PM |
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What's striking is how low these salaries are across the board. Especially with the other numbers we've seen. Unless there's some massive crypto payments going on or some large bonuses (either of which might be true for Capuano or Mordica), this is really just a vehicle to make Josh rich.
There was one email a while back that articulated BTC payments to a few of the principals. Anyone have that? It might give us a window into total compensation.
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April 19, 2015, 02:00:39 PM |
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dickhead -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Car Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 16:46:16 -0400 From: Juliette Dunlevy < juliette@geniusesatwork.com> To: Josh Garza < josh@btc.com> CC: Amber Messer < amber@gawminers.com> We just talked about this. I got it under control.  On Oct 4, 2014 4:42 PM, "Josh Garza" < josh@btc.com <mailto:josh@btc.com>> wrote: who is handling? The only thing I will drive in Vegas is a merci or McLain Or an r8 Thank you for your help in setting everything up -- Sent from Gmail Mobile |
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April 19, 2015, 02:02:12 PM |
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What's striking is how low these salaries are across the board. Especially with the other numbers we've seen. Unless there's some massive crypto payments going on or some large bonuses (either of which might be true for Capuano or Mordica), this is really just a vehicle to make Josh rich.
There was one email a while back that articulated BTC payments to a few of the principals. Anyone have that? It might give us a window into total compensation.
He probably had promised them a %stake in the company. Seems to me he promised out over 100% of his company to others so that tells me that he never had any intention to honor it. Also, as was suggested, crypto payments were probably included. There should be email somewhere for that though. |
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April 19, 2015, 02:03:11 PM |
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So it begins.... Besides I don't want to see you with Jessica..
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: TRIP TO LAS VGAS
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 11:29:21 -0400
From: Juliette Dunlevy <juliette@geniusesatwork.com>
To: Josh Garza <josh@btc.com>
Fly safe! Let me know when you land pls :)
On Oct 5, 2014 11:26 AM, "Josh Garza" <josh@btc.com
<mailto:josh@btc.com>> wrote:
Repair attempt....
On Oct 5, 2014 11:17 AM, "Juliette Dunlevy"
<juliette@geniusesatwork.com <mailto:juliette@geniusesatwork.com>>
wrote:
Def going to miss you though! A lot.
On Oct 5, 2014 11:16 AM, "Juliette Dunlevy"
<juliette@geniusesatwork.com
<mailto:juliette@geniusesatwork.com>> wrote:
Besides I don't want to see you with Jessica..
On Oct 5, 2014 11:15 AM, "Juliette Dunlevy"
<juliette@geniusesatwork.com
<mailto:juliette@geniusesatwork.com>> wrote:
I forgot a check at the airport...?!
I really can't though. Jas has a soccer game at 12:30...
And it is a half hr away :(
On Oct 5, 2014 11:11 AM, "Josh Garza" <josh@btc.com
<mailto:josh@btc.com>> wrote:
Act like you forgot something, like a check or
something
On Oct 5, 2014 11:10 AM, josh@btc.com
<mailto:josh@btc.com> wrote:
You can't come back?
On Oct 5, 2014 11:10 AM, "Juliette Dunlevy"
<juliette@geniusesatwork.com
<mailto:juliette@geniusesatwork.com>> wrote:
I would have loved to have seen you...but
someone has to be late....
On Oct 5, 2014 11:09 AM, "Juliette Dunlevy"
<juliette@geniusesatwork.com
<mailto:juliette@geniusesatwork.com>> wrote:
I did. I dropped them off.
On Oct 5, 2014 11:08 AM, "Josh Garza"
<josh@btc.com <mailto:josh@btc.com>> wrote:
Your not coming?
On Oct 5, 2014 11:03 AM, "Juliette
Dunlevy"
<juliette@geniusesatwork.com
<mailto:juliette@geniusesatwork.com>> wrote:
Amanda and Luke are waiting for
you guys....
Luke has your glasses and cash.
On Oct 5, 2014 10:23 AM,
"Juliette Dunlevy"
<juliette@geniusesatwork.com
<mailto:juliette@geniusesatwork.com>>
wrote:
I am getting them now
On Oct 5, 2014 10:19 AM,
"Josh Garza" <josh@btc.com
<mailto:josh@btc.com>> wrote:
Were are able to get?
On Oct 5, 2014 9:33 AM,
"Josh Garza"
<josh@btc.com
<mailto:josh@btc.com>>
wrote:
Just the sunglasses pls
On Sunday, October
5, 2014, Juliette
Dunlevy
<juliette@geniusesatwork.com
<mailto:juliette@geniusesatwork.com>>
wrote:
Oh yeah....which
pair? You have 3
on the table?
On Oct 5, 2014
9:12 AM, "Josh
Garza"
<josh@btc.com>
wrote:
Thanks, did
you see me
note about
my glasses ?
On Sunday,
October 5,
2014,
Juliette
Dunlevy
<juliette@geniusesatwork.com>
wrote:
Josh and
Jessica-
You will
not be
going to
BDL...you will
be going
to the
FBO...In
your GPS
put
Signature Flight,
East
Granny
CT
06026.
Same one
Obama
flies in
and out
of :)
On Oct
4, 2014
10:56
AM,
"Juliette Dunlevy"
<juliette@geniusesatwork.com>
wrote:
Good
morning
all!!!
Just
a
few
away
from
all
of
this
past
weeks hard
work
starting
to
come
to
fruition!
Get
ready for
an
amazing
time, and
remember
to
enjoy the
organized
chaos we
all
live
for. :)
So
that
everyone
is
on
the
same
page, here
are
everyone's
arrivals
and
plans:
Amber and
Eric
will
be
flying
into
Mississippi
tonight
at
9:30
-
Lord
Mordica
will
be
your
chauffeur
Joe,
Amber and
Eric
will
be
departing
Hattiesburg
at
8am
Sunday
morning.
Carlos,
Luke, Amanda
-
please
be
at
BDL
_no
later_
than
11:00 am
on
Sunday
morning.
When
you
get
there you
will
need
to
go
to
the
customer
service
desk
to
inquire
where you
need
to
go
for
private
flights.
I
will
continue
trying
to
get
a
hold
of
the
airport
for
instructions,
but
as
for
right now,
I am
unsure.
Josh
and
Jessica
- I
am
lying to
the
team
in
telling
them
to
be
at
the
airport
at
that
time, shhhh...the
real
time
to
be
there is
10:30....
:)
wink
wink
In
all
seriousness,
please
attempt
to
be
at
the
airport
by
11:00 am
as
well...or
11:15am
when
the
others
can
tell
you
where you
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April 19, 2015, 02:06:31 PM |
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What has it got in its pocketses precious? BTC: 1KctJNLwzFK8qJPsSwDrQRNxxKnVCrZm93
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April 19, 2015, 02:11:39 PM |
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...and so it ends  -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Missed communications? Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:02:24 -0400 From: Juliette Dunlevy < juliette@geniusesatwork.com> To: Dan Pease < dpease@geniusesatwork.com>, Dan Kelley < dan@geniusesatwork.com> Good evening, I went into my office this afternoon to find my desk had been gone through as well as attempts to access my computer. This concerns me as my office holds key company information that does not need to be accessed unless I am informed. I in no doubt believe you both respect the privacy and importance of the security of my office, and that the reason to go through my things and computer was because there was a company emergency. I will go through my emails again in case I missed what information was being searched for. In case i cannot find the email, can I please be informed of the emergency so I can advise where the information can be found. Thank you, Juliette |
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April 19, 2015, 02:17:04 PM |
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dickhead -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Car Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 16:46:16 -0400 From: Juliette Dunlevy < juliette@geniusesatwork.com> To: Josh Garza < josh@btc.com> CC: Amber Messer < amber@gawminers.com> We just talked about this. I got it under control. On Oct 4, 2014 4:42 PM, "Josh Garza" < josh@btc.com <mailto:josh@btc.com>> wrote: who is handling? The only thing I will drive in Vegas is a merci or McLain Or an r8 Thank you for your help in setting everything up -- Sent from Gmail Mobile Anyone who can't spell McLaren properly shouldn't be allowed near one. I assume he meant the P1 or a Mercedes. |
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