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[galdur]

Bitcoin cloud services thread was beset by outstanding

counter-indicators, some of my favorites in fact so I bought

and with splendid results.

I'm going to call that a night and day response when compared to GAW sorry to pull things off topic guys

Is that the one that has no maintenance fees? Think about that for a minute. Cost per GH/s roughly equal to real hardware+infrastructure cost (1.5 BTC per TH/s) but magically there is no ongoing cost? When power costs alone even with the most efficient hardware and $0.05/kWh electricity would be 20-25% at this time. Sounds much like LTC Gear with their magic super-cheap multi-algo hardware, also no maintenance costs.

All I'm saying don't accidentally step into a bear's cave while running from the big bad wolf.

Once again; I doubt that they actually mine bitcoin but

rather this overabundant horse poop and dump that for

BTC. I mean, it´s an obvious business proposition/model..

[galdur]

You guys ever heard of Occam´s razor ?

[suchmoon]

Once again; I doubt that they actually mine bitcoin but

rather this overabundant horse poop and dump that for

BTC. I mean, it´s an obvious business proposition..

Very slim chance. There are established multipools doing that and they barely if at all make more than straight BTC or LTC mining. This is the same thing as with ZenPool in August - how come they could make so much more than regular pools - highly trained businessmen, private rentals etc - and then it tanked.

You guys ever heard of Occam´s razor ?

I've heard the version with ducks.

[Jacques de Molay]

Well I can cross out cyberlizard as being trust worthy and reasonable.



And just like that a guy who is asking real question get banned because some fuckwit (Raymond miner  https://hashtalk.org/user/raymondminer)  had a cry and called troll because it was upsetting him and he didnt want to lose money. Notice how cry baby raymond miner said that he wants the thread to go in a direction HE wants ? soon as it not, listen to the new way to get people banned.

I checked his posts this edavis and he has MORE of a clue of whats going on then most of the fuck muppets who are drinking the kool aid.

Still I dont get why they are happy they got SOLD a lie and the company reverts from a cloud miner platform to a scammy PAY TO STAKE service.

[galdur]

Once again; I doubt that they actually mine bitcoin but

rather this overabundant horse poop and dump that for

BTC. I mean, it´s an obvious business proposition..

Very slim chance. There are established multipools doing that and they barely if at all make more than straight BTC or LTC mining. This is the same thing as with ZenPool in August - how come they could make so much more than regular pools - highly trained businessmen, private rentals etc - and then it tanked.

You guys ever heard of Occam´s razor ?

I've heard the version with ducks.

Come on, there´s mountains of the crap and more added every

day. Tons of it must be very dumpable and profitable.

[galdur]

In any event; I think my theory beats sitting on message

boards for months or years declaring something a scam.

At some point you´re gonna lose all credibility even with total

idiots.

[zerocoder]

Come on, there´s mountains of the crap and more added every

day. Tons of it must be very dumpable and profitable.

Most of them not more profitable than directly mining BTC and LTC for those giant companies because their market are so shallow, and yes there are tons of coin there but most of them have 0.5 BTC/day trade volume. So the only way left to increase those payouts could be day trading in BTC/LTC market or diversification of investment in other EMTIAs (petroleum, gold)

So after Zen, whenever I see a company claiming they are paying more than direct BTC mining, that makes me think

[galdur]

Come on, there´s mountains of the crap and more added every

day. Tons of it must be very dumpable and profitable.

Most of them not more profitable than directly mining BTC and LTC for those giant companies because their market are so shallow, and yes there are tons of coin there but most of them have 0.5 BTC/day trade. So the only way to increase those payout could be day trading in BTC/LTC market or diversification of investment in other EMTIAs (petroleum, gold)

That´s possible.

But it´s not exactly giant companies that I´m referring to.

The giants mine BTC and have measly payouts.

[Phildo]

The payouts for x amount of gh over time will go down due to difficulty increases.

It's very easy to show that you are legitimate by showing the mined coins. If you are mining other coins and trading you can show the coins you mind and some trades.

If you are investing in "mining" and they aren't giving you accurate, updated records of mining you have no one to blame but your self when they run out of money and it ends.

[galdur]

The payouts for x amount of gh over time will go down due to difficulty increases.

It's very easy to show that you are legitimate by showing the mined coins. If you are mining other coins and trading you can show the coins you mind and some trades.

If you are investing in "mining" and they aren't giving you accurate, updated records of mining you have no one to blame but your self when they run out of money and it ends.

Yeah, but then people tell me that I´ll lose my money when the scam ends

for a flippin year.

I love counter-indicators.

[Jacques de Molay]

Well I can cross out cyberlizard as being trust worthy and reasonable.



And just like that a guy who is asking real question get banned because some fuckwit (Raymond miner  https://hashtalk.org/user/raymondminer)  had a cry and called troll because it was upsetting him and he didnt want to lose money. Notice how cry baby raymond miner said that he wants the thread to go in a direction HE wants ? soon as it not, listen to the new way to get people banned.

I checked his posts this edavis and he has MORE of a clue of whats going on then most of the fuck muppets who are drinking the kool aid.

Still I dont get why they are happy they got SOLD a lie and the company reverts from a cloud miner platform to a scammy PAY TO STAKE service.

Here's Raymond. Snobby little douchebag. https://www.facebook.com/raymond.kanyo?fref=browse_search

Agreed what a pretend wannabe fucktard. 

[galdur]

Looks like a pretty regular wanker to me

OOOH you said wanker. That's it. You're BANNED.

Handsome fucker.

Those fatso losers here are just jealous.

[subseaguru]

Well I can cross out cyberlizard as being trust worthy and reasonable.



And just like that a guy who is asking real question get banned because some fuckwit (Raymond miner  https://hashtalk.org/user/raymondminer)  had a cry and called troll because it was upsetting him and he didnt want to lose money. Notice how cry baby raymond miner said that he wants the thread to go in a direction HE wants ? soon as it not, listen to the new way to get people banned.

I checked his posts this edavis and he has MORE of a clue of whats going on then most of the fuck muppets who are drinking the kool aid.

Still I dont get why they are happy they got SOLD a lie and the company reverts from a cloud miner platform to a scammy PAY TO STAKE service.

Here's Raymond. Snobby little douchebag. https://www.facebook.com/raymond.kanyo?fref=browse_search

you can say anything you like on those forums as long as you dont bash josh, paygroin, gaw or make anyone think more than josh allows them to.

[galdur]

They seem to be dressed for grandma´s birthday or something like that.

[Jacques de Molay]

ZHe is just lucky that the down votes have been removed. me and my 4 accounts would have gone to town on him and banned his faggot stupid entitled ass off the forum.

This is why down votes needed to stay, I get trolls are trolls but fuckwits are far worse when they are cheerleaders on the forum.  And yes I been trying to ban fanboys off the forum but they seem to have more sympathy from the mods...I go there to read developments not these jerkoffs preening over how great josh and gaw is and cant see the scam.

This is probably the reason why down votes were removed. It wasnt to remove trolls, it was to stop fucking morons like this raymond turd from saying whatever he wanted.  There are many people that assume they can say what they want on there and then have the audacity to then post about crying about people down voting them.  Reaper is another that comes to mind who is a complete fuckwit too.



But yeah thanks cyberlizard you were the only one I liked on there, but not now.

[galdur]

Well, I deleted the images I posted.

[Mabsark]

Bitcoin cloud services thread was beset by outstanding

counter-indicators, some of my favorites in fact so I bought

and with splendid results.

I'm going to call that a night and day response when compared to GAW sorry to pull things off topic guys

Is that the one that has no maintenance fees? Think about that for a minute. Cost per GH/s roughly equal to real hardware+infrastructure cost (1.5 BTC per TH/s) but magically there is no ongoing cost? When power costs alone even with the most efficient hardware and $0.05/kWh electricity would be 20-25% at this time. Sounds much like LTC Gear with their magic super-cheap multi-algo hardware, also no maintenance costs.

All I'm saying don't accidentally step into a bear's cave while running from the big bad wolf.

Galdur doesn't care whether they're scams, he's just trying to build his affiliates so he gets a tiny cut of the scam. Either that or he just doesn't learn from his experiences. Here's what he said earlier:

It all just seemed so weird. My zens were happily mining

the world´s best paying pool, then it sagged a little for a

few days and then boom - tanked. And the same day there

was this big hullabbaloo over the activation codes and that

scam. And I thought, wow maybe this Josh guy got an overdose

of the old testament as a kid and subscribes to the collective

punishment doctrine of that invisible guy in the sky. In that event

those payouts might never return and so maybe I best get the hell out.

And here he is insisting ponzis like PB are real. Basically, all the referral links in his sig are ponzis that are starting to crack. Anyone who points that out is apparently the same sock puppet shill for a Chinese backed, Havelock led conspiracy.

[galdur]

This is being way too personal. RE; Raymond.

And regarding GAW I´ve never claimed that they´re a scam

this mabsarak idiot has very poor reading comprehension,

He´s gonna sit for another year or more whining about scams

while they happily churn along.

[bitpop]

Did bitpop hack them? Bye bye PayCoin. It was not nice not knowing you.

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Wait a minute...

Are we still in February ...and the "MtGox fiasco"...

Sounds exactly like them... if you remember ...

ZiG

EDIT ...:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGytDsqkQY8

 

Someone inserted transaction malleability into the hybrid flex!!

[TheIZS]

And here he is insisting ponzis like PB are real. Basically, all the referral links in his sig are ponzis that are starting to crack. Anyone who points that out is apparently the same sock puppet shill for a Chinese backed, Havelock led conspiracy.
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