NastyFans: The Bitcoin Enthusiast Fan Club (est. 2012)

[Carnth]

I have still not received a list from GLBSE.

I hope it comes soon.


If you plan on continuing operations with a new exchange, I would highly recommend https://btct.co/
burnside has spent a lot of time on the Litecoin version of his exchange (where I manage an asset), and has now just released the BTC side.
Burnside got a lawyer, and registered it in Belize.
As a standard feature, you will be emailed all shareholder information on a routine basis--just in case. And, it's not slow!

[1714205353]

1714205353

[1714205353]

1714205353

[1714205353]

1714205353

[jasonharty24]

I had a chat with James and hes is releasing about 4 assets per day.
Sunshine!
And now, please send him the flowers too
 

[l3sny]

Does that sound satisfactory to you OgNasty?

No.  It would put me in the position of having to start judging the authenticity of screenshots and .csv files.

Hi Nasty

As mentioned before I can prove the authenticity of my 61 shares as I have the screenshot and communication to GLBSE saved on my gmail account. This cannot be forged. However I had 83 shares in total.
I just wonder what's gonna happen if we never hear from Nefario with the list because this is becoming more and more probable scenario.

[jasonharty24]

Does that sound satisfactory to you OgNasty?

No.  It would put me in the position of having to start judging the authenticity of screenshots and .csv files.

Hi Nasty

As mentioned before I can prove the authenticity of my 61 shares as I have the screenshot and communication to GLBSE saved on my gmail account. This cannot be forged. However I had 83 shares in total.
I just wonder what's gonna happen if we never hear from Nefario with the list because this is becoming more and more probable scenario.

check out:
http://blog.glbse.com/issuers-being-given-shareholder-lists

OgNasty should be receiving an email with the list *soon*.

[l3sny]

Thx. fingers crossed;)

[kuzetsa]

check out:
http://blog.glbse.com/issuers-being-given-shareholder-lists

OgNasty should be receiving an email with the list *soon*.

Wonderful!!! Thanks or sharing that link

... out of town this week, so I'm looking forward to the status updates after I've returned.
(This is likely my last post on bitcointalk... until at or around November 25th 2012)

[OgNasty]

Anyone that received a double payment from GLBSE, please make sure you've contacted Nefario per his blog post and returned the overpayment.

http://blog.glbse.com/refunding-double-payments-and-getting-your-as

[laSeek]

Anyone that received a double payment from GLBSE, please make sure you've contacted Nefario per his blog post and returned the overpayment.

http://blog.glbse.com/refunding-double-payments-and-getting-your-as

You received any shareholder info from him yet Og?

[OgNasty]

You received any shareholder info from him yet Og?

No. I'm hoping I don't receive a partial list either. If I do, we may have to vote on whether to proceed or wait for the final list.

[novusordo]

You received any shareholder info from him yet Og?

No. I'm hoping I don't receive a partial list either. If I do, we may have to vote on whether to proceed or wait for the final list.

Even if you do, couldn't you just begin paying out dividends to those who are on the list, then just hold on to the dividends for the missing shares? This way OgNasty could return to paying dividends as quickly as possible, while allowing those who didn't make the list to come back at a later date.

Of course, if we did this, there would need to be a deadline. If shareholders don't return double-payments or start their claim on GLBSE within a few months, we could vote on what to do.

[Bitcoin Oz]

You received any shareholder info from him yet Og?

No. I'm hoping I don't receive a partial list either. If I do, we may have to vote on whether to proceed or wait for the final list.

Even if you do, couldn't you just begin paying out dividends to those who are on the list, then just hold on to the dividends for the missing shares? This way OgNasty could return to paying dividends as quickly as possible, while allowing those who didn't make the list to come back at a later date.

Of course, if we did this, there would need to be a deadline. If shareholders don't return double-payments or start their claim on GLBSE within a few months, we could vote on what to do.

Just pay their dividends into the company so when they do claim them the company is worth more and so will their shares.

Otherwise you could be holding onto dividends for years.

[laSeek]

Just pay their dividends into the company so when they do claim them the company is worth more and so will their shares.

Otherwise you could be holding onto dividends for years.

Umm - no thanks.  The value of the shares is only worth what others will pay for it.

[OgNasty]

I'm only going to process 1 list. The community can decide when the list is processed. I'd highly recommend returning any double payment you received from GLBSE, if you haven't already.

[l3sny]

Given nefarios history there is absolutely no guaranty that the list will be accurate.
There should be some procedure of reviewing this if someone is omitted. Again I can prove beyond any reasonable doubt I had at least 61 shares (in fact I have 83 in total). I have the screenshots and saved communication with glbse customer services with the screenshots attached. Such things cannot be forged.

[novusordo]

Such things cannot be forged.

lol

[l3sny]

Yea yea I know, with the use of a time machine... lol

And there are people who would say it's forged without seeing it!

I am just talking of the most basic civil right, the right of possession.
I can prove the possession of my 61 out of 83 shares and until proven it's fake my claim should be respected.

That's what I expect given the circumstances.

[OgNasty]

The list from GLBSE will be the only thing I recognize. If anyone is omitted, it will be assumed that they didn't return a double payment, and as such have forfeited their claim.

[crosby]

Hi,

I had some BTC invested in your operations and have patiently been waiting to see how things sort out. Are you able to give me any insight as to what we know ?  Can you see what I have invested ? 

Thanks

[l3sny]

But this way OgNasty people with valid claims of the ownership of the shares will be deprived of their assets. I have not had any BTC nor I received anything from GLBSE. Just because nefario was negligent or something. That's disappointing and frustrating.

[OgNasty]

I had some BTC invested in your operations and have patiently been waiting to see how things sort out. Are you able to give me any insight as to what we know ?  Can you see what I have invested ? 

Basically at this point we know that Nefario is providing lists and that anyone who didn't attempt to steal from the community by keeping their double payment from GLBSE will be on the list.  At this point in time I have been given no list, so I have no idea who invested what.

But this way OgNasty people with valid claims of the ownership of the shares will be deprived of their assets. I have not had any BTC nor I received anything from GLBSE. Just because nefario was negligent or something. That's disappointing and frustrating.

If you didn't receive a double payment, you will be fine.  Claiming screenshots can't be faked is ludicrous.  I will not even pretend to let you think for a second that anything not verified by GLBSE will be recognized.