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January 11, 2013, 12:17:17 AM
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A generous nastyfans member offered to get nastyfans.org. I generated a new SSL certificate to support nastyfans.bit and nastyfans.org. It is also self-signed so you must accept it again. Sorry for the inconvenience. But now people can use nastyfans.org if wanted.

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Here is the certificate information if you want to verify.

serial number: 00:B2:BF:27:9E:41:B0:81:83
sha1 fingerprint: 59:83:2F:09:0F:16:7A:5D:45:BB:6E:52:D8:C2:F1:2D:09:7B:FA:39
md5 fingerprint: 19:FB:01:A5:27:4C:5A:DE:FA:24:D8:E6:3D:D6:A6:51

Here is the Bitcoin signature using the donation address if the 3 lines are in a Microsoft text file:

ID0k2AbifKqD94D8E6hs47bRi0u8FHc7pFlOnZw8LYOvyI/dx5w2Dgk2Jrvnd26ig9Qi+K90rCjV+nAxfQzxlnU=

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January 11, 2013, 12:25:23 AM
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I don't see an option to change a vote once cast, did I overlook it or does it have to be done through support?

I want to show the current results as soon as you vote. This is not implemented yet but is my plan. I think it is not appropriate to change votes. Members can play games and change at the last minute. Like ebay bidding shit. I do not want that.

When you vote that is your vote. I believe all voting systems are like this.
While I do agree with everything you just said there is also the counter argument of someone misreading, misclicking, or becoming more educated (here for example).

I dont want perfect to be the enemy of good, and what we have is awesome.  I am just wondering if there are not some situations where changing a vote is legitimate.

I think it would be appropriate to contact nonnakip in the event one wants to change their vote. This way we could prevent members playing games, while still allowing someone who misread the text to have their vote count for what they want it to count for.

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January 11, 2013, 12:27:22 AM
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I am fine with that if he is. 

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January 12, 2013, 12:23:57 AM
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Distribution 216161 is out. I am happy to see micro donations again. Thank you for your donations!

Still very little members are publishing seat and identity information. I recommend strongly that members publish this information. It is for your security.

Also it is important that members download the last list and signatures. If nastyfans.org/.bit disappear you need to have the list and signatures ready. They are publicly available. A simple automatic script can handle it. For example:

Code:
wget --no-check-certificate https://nastyfans.org/distribution.last.csv
wget --no-check-certificate https://nastyfans.org/distribution.last.csv.asc
wget --no-check-certificate https://nastyfans.org/distribution.last.csv.sig

To verify the signatures:

Code:
gpg --verify distribution.last.csv.asc distribution.last.csv

bitcoind verifymessage 1EwtTKJaXAtctSFqCQKU3LiCg9dqYPEkxN \
        `cat distribution.last.csv.sig` "`cat distribution.last.csv`"

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January 12, 2013, 12:28:45 AM
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I think it would be appropriate to contact nonnakip in the event one wants to change their vote.

I will manually change votes for open polls if I have a signed request from a member. This means a identity must be set in the nastyfans account. The username has no meaning to me. Only signatures from identities are respected.

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January 12, 2013, 07:49:01 PM
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Are the final poll results in yet?
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January 12, 2013, 10:39:28 PM
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good stuff. Smiley

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January 13, 2013, 12:17:04 AM
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Are the final poll results in yet?

Polls are closed when all members vote or after 30 days.

Even if polls are open a action can occur if 75% vote for the action.

Even if polls are open a action will definitely not occur if more than 25% vote for no action. Here it is not possible for 75% to vote for the action.

I updated the website so you see the current results if you have voted.

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January 13, 2013, 05:45:50 AM
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Hey,

It's a quick hack, but maybe someone finds it useful: http://bitcoinenterprises.org/nasty/
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January 13, 2013, 11:36:36 AM
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Is this relevant?  Shocked

https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=1041.msg3093


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January 13, 2013, 02:00:16 PM
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So it's just AVALON and BFL left now.
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January 13, 2013, 02:45:16 PM
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So it's just AVALON and BFL left now.

i did not hear bASIC quitting business...

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January 13, 2013, 03:33:57 PM
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It's a quick hack, but maybe someone finds it useful: http://bitcoinenterprises.org/nasty/

Nice.

I make buy transaction data public (date,time,seats,price_per_seat). This URL is updated every 10 minutes. It includes all buys since nastyfans auction exists. Maybe this helps you.

https://nastyfans.org/buys.csv

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January 13, 2013, 04:47:21 PM
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Yes.  This is both relevant and disturbing.  I've requested a refund on our bASIC orders as per the results of our poll.  Hopefully Tom will come through.  For those that don't know the situation...  Tom (cablepair) seems to have disappeared and is being very slow processing refunds.  I've sent him an email at: thomas@thomasvanriper.com pleading with him to return our funds.  It seems he has refunded a few people, so there is still hope.  It probably wouldn't hurt to shoot him a message asking to refund our order #'s 736 & 816 if you've had any prior relationship with him. 

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January 13, 2013, 06:09:52 PM
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7 days passed without any new seat claims. The claim process is over! GLBSE shares have no meaning for nastyfans now. The nastyfans GLBSE claim URL is invalid.

There are 338 unclaimed seats. A new poll is open to decide if a lottery is used.

Approximately 18:00 (UTC) on 2013-01-14 nastyfans will be open to the general public. Until now the auction is only available to members. When new users join they may have more demand for seats. If you list seats on the auction for prices that are low and you prefer higher prices then maybe now is a good time to change it.

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January 13, 2013, 07:07:15 PM
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7 days passed without any new seat claims. The claim process is over! GLBSE shares have no meaning for nastyfans now. The nastyfans GLBSE claim URL is invalid.

There are 338 unclaimed seats. A new poll is open to decide if a lottery is used.

Approximately 18:00 (UTC) on 2013-01-14 nastyfans will be open to the general public. Until now the auction is only available to members. When new users join they may have more demand for seats. If you list seats on the auction for prices that are low and you prefer higher prices then maybe now is a good time to change it.

I'll agree to this...

while (unclaimedSeats > members.size()) {
    for (Member member : members)
    {
         unclaimedSeats -=1;
         member.seats +=1;
     }
}
lottery(unclaimedSeats);

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January 13, 2013, 07:17:17 PM
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I'll agree to this...

while (unclaimedSeats > members.size()) {
    for (Member member : members)
    {
         unclaimedSeats -=1;
         member.seats +=1;
     }
}
lottery(unclaimedSeats);

Right now we have 103 members. So for your idea every member would get 3 seats and lottery with 29 seats. This is great for members with no seats. And maybe we have many more members after we open to the general public tomorrow so for new members it is really great.

If the current lottery poll does not succeed I will start a new poll with your idea.

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January 13, 2013, 09:02:59 PM
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Cool, FREE SEATS if you vote no.

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January 13, 2013, 11:29:27 PM
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I'll agree to this...

while (unclaimedSeats > members.size()) {
    for (Member member : members)
    {
         unclaimedSeats -=1;
         member.seats +=1;
     }
}
lottery(unclaimedSeats);

Right now we have 103 members. So for your idea every member would get 3 seats and lottery with 29 seats. This is great for members with no seats. And maybe we have many more members after we open to the general public tomorrow so for new members it is really great.

If the current lottery poll does not succeed I will start a new poll with your idea.

Cool, FREE SEATS if you vote no.

^Is that accurate?

If enough people were to either abstain, or vote "no" on the CURRENT lottery poll, will it really result in the new idea being voted on?

I'd love a guaranteed opportunity to pick up 3 seats without having to drop more BTC, and possibly might pick up 1 or more seats from the leftovers distributed via lottery.
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January 14, 2013, 01:27:42 AM
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Why not distribute the extra seats proportionally to the number of the seats owned by each nasty fan? I think it should be done exactly in the same way we distribute the donations.
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