NastyFans: The Bitcoin Enthusiast Fan Club (est. 2012)

[nonnakip]

Could you explain a little bit more plz.

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[valkir]

Yeah I know I saw the pool.  I mean can you explain more the thing about seat ? Not sure to clearly understand.

[snarlpill]

Yeah I know I saw the pool.  I mean can you explain more the thing about seat ? Not sure to clearly understand.

From my understanding, when you go to mint a seat on NastyFans.org, you assign 1 of your seats to it and the private key held under the coin's hologram is for the address that receives the seat's distributions. So I'm guessing this poll would be to allow people to say- "I would like for my minted NastyFans coin to have 100 seats assigned to it, and the distributions for those 100 seats will go to the coin's address."

Am I correct in my thinking here?

[TheAnalogKid]

Yeah I know I saw the pool.  I mean can you explain more the thing about seat ? Not sure to clearly understand.

From my understanding, when you go to mint a seat on NastyFans.org, you assign 1 of your seats to it and the private key held under the coin's hologram is for the address that receives the seat's distributions. So I'm guessing this poll would be to allow people to say- "I would like for my minted NastyFans coin to have 100 seats assigned to it, and the distributions for those 100 seats will go to the coin's address."

Am I correct in my thinking here?

That's exactly the way I am understanding it.

[valkir]

ok well if its that I dont know why I would not want to  

Will go vote!
I also like to see a pool. We will see how many member are still active 

[naypalm]

A 100-seat coin?   That would be cool!

Voted.

[OgNasty]

Yeah I know I saw the poll.  I mean can you explain more the thing about seat ? Not sure to clearly understand.

This is the poll to officially clear the way for the 5 Minted Seats coins to exist.  Please vote in favor of the policy change.

[nonnakip]

I'm guessing this poll would be to allow people to say- "I would like for my minted NastyFans coin to have 100 seats assigned to it, and the distributions for those 100 seats will go to the coin's address."

Keep in mind that the virgin 1 oz and 5 oz coins waiting to become minted seats have "ONE SEAT" and "FIVE SEATS" pressed on them. So those coins will remain fixed to 1 and 5 minted seats.

This poll is to clean up policy language and clarify that multiple-seat minted coins are allowed.

It may be interesting to one day offer a coin where fans could order the amount of seats to mint to the coin and NASTY MINING could engrave the seat count on such coins. Maybe on 10 oz silver bars? 

[valkir]

Saturday the 6th at noon will work for me.

Saturday, June 6th @ 12:00pm PST sounds good.

and where to we connect. I forgot 

[naypalm]

Saturday, June 6th @ 12:00pm PST sounds good.

and where to we connect. I forgot 

A link will get posted to this thread.

[valkir]

Good thanks you!  

Hey I was curious what do NastyFans member think of the fork and the Bitcoin XT stuff ?

I still can decide if im for or against  

[nonnakip]

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[nonnakip]

Hey I was curious what do NastyFans member think of the fork and the Bitcoin XT stuff ?

Their double-spending policy is idiotic. Double-spending is a feature. They might as well accept "first seen" blocks too. That shows their lack of fundamental understanding of what Bitcoin is about.

The Bitcoin protocol is not about first come first serve. In fact Bitcoin should not give a damn about time. If sh*t like that ever makes it into official Bitcoin protocol, Bitcoin has no future.

[valkir]

So if I read right you do not agree with Bitcoin XT.

what is your opinion on the size of the block ? 

[snarlpill]

Hey I was curious what do NastyFans member think of the fork and the Bitcoin XT stuff ?

Their double-spending policy is idiotic. Double-spending is a feature. They might as well accept "first seen" blocks too. That shows their lack of fundamental understanding of what Bitcoin is about.

The Bitcoin protocol is not about first come first serve. In fact Bitcoin should not give a damn about time. If sh*t like that ever makes it into official Bitcoin protocol, Bitcoin has no future.

Damn nonnakip, that sounds fucked up about double spending. Could you link a good, unbiased article or thread you've seen about it so I could read it? Every time I've looked at the "Bitcoin Discussion" section or other Bitcoin news sites recently all I've seen is people bitching about it both ways and in almost every thread/article. To be honest it just kind of made me avoid all those threads and not want to read about it, especially because there is so much FUD posted about both sides, conspiracies, and tons of shill/newbie accounts posting it. I know it basically stemmed from the block size debate and Gavin mentioning "Bitcoin XT", but I haven't been following it much.

I've been avoiding it like I do with anything that has the words "Bitcoin Foundation" in the title. 

[OgNasty]

LIVE CHAT HAPPENING NOW!

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Thanks to those who attended.

[OgNasty]

Engraving of the 5 Minted Seats Coins have begun.

[nonnakip]

Their double-spending policy is idiotic. Double-spending is a feature. They might as well accept "first seen" blocks too. That shows their lack of fundamental understanding of what Bitcoin is about.

The Bitcoin protocol is not about first come first serve. In fact Bitcoin should not give a damn about time. If sh*t like that ever makes it into official Bitcoin protocol, Bitcoin has no future.

Damn nonnakip, that sounds fucked up about double spending. Could you link a good, unbiased article or thread you've seen about it so I could read it? Every time I've looked at the "Bitcoin Discussion" section or other Bitcoin news sites recently all I've seen is people bitching about it both ways and in almost every thread/article. To be honest it just kind of made me avoid all those threads and not want to read about it, especially because there is so much FUD posted about both sides, conspiracies, and tons of shill/newbie accounts posting it. I know it basically stemmed from the block size debate and Gavin mentioning "Bitcoin XT", but I haven't been following it much.

I do not have any links and I did not read any articles. This is my opinion. My experience comes from handling nastyfans transactions using my own custom Bitcoin node since 2012.

The Bitcoin Foundation receives pressure to create a instant pay system. For this reason they encourage organizations to accept unconfirmed payments. THIS IS WRONG! Any organization that accepts payments with less than 6 confirmations do not understand how Bitcoin works and deserve to be ripped off with double-spending tricks.

By using stupid first come first serve logic and transaction coloring Bitcoin XT encourages acceptance of unconfirmed transactions. And by doing this they also are saying double-spenders are evil. THAT IS ALSO WRONG! Even nastyfans was required to double-spend to get funds out.

Bitcoin protocol requires 60 minutes for reliable transaction confirmation. If that is too long for the commercial world then using Bitcoin directly is not for them. There are plenty of business models like BitPay that allow merchants to have immediate confirmations for a service fee.

[Squirrel Dearing]

Can anyone get to nastyfans.org or is it just me that can't at the moment?

[OgNasty]

Can anyone get to nastyfans.org or is it just me that can't at the moment?

Looks like a DNS issue is effecting some users.  I'll look into it and see if I can find a more reliable DNS server.