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[traumschiff]

I'm really excited what comes in the future regarding the MinerPP Project. Added the info the the ann with the official link. John will have an additional announcement soon.

Sorry for being late, had a long few days.

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[anhpt192]

So, if the electricity costs will be much lower than with GPU, the price of vnl will not go higher, than it's now (during GPU minning). Am I right?

Impossible to predict, maybe something else will change the market.

So what's a point to allow FPGA's minning VNL?

A lower electric bill.

that will not happen.
difficulty will go up until it's barely profitable to mine with fpga, or even higher.
that's how it works: if there is money to be made, people will come and mine, until difficulty is so high that someone must leave.
it balances itself.

Maybe the point is to secure the network.

No, the point is probably that the only people who can mine anything profitably with GPUs are farms that pay an extremely low subsidized price per kwh (or use subsidized solar panels).

So, let's move this coin to FPGA farms :-D
Or... They may be mining it already....
The only purpose is being ahead of them for some days.

Or the people who pay for more powerful optimized miners in the earlier days reaping in much more profit with their farms compared to others.

Private VNL GPU miners might even be optimized to hit the 1Gh/s mark.

i guess it won't worth to mine VNL by GPUs when FPGA released (with more hash rate, low energy consumption)

[pokeytex]

So, if the electricity costs will be much lower than with GPU, the price of vnl will not go higher, than it's now (during GPU minning). Am I right?

Impossible to predict, maybe something else will change the market.

So what's a point to allow FPGA's minning VNL?

A lower electric bill.

that will not happen.
difficulty will go up until it's barely profitable to mine with fpga, or even higher.
that's how it works: if there is money to be made, people will come and mine, until difficulty is so high that someone must leave.
it balances itself.

Maybe the point is to secure the network.

No, the point is probably that the only people who can mine anything profitably with GPUs are farms that pay an extremely low subsidized price per kwh (or use subsidized solar panels).

So, let's move this coin to FPGA farms :-D
Or... They may be mining it already....
The only purpose is being ahead of them for some days.

Or the people who pay for more powerful optimized miners in the earlier days reaping in much more profit with their farms compared to others.

Private VNL GPU miners might even be optimized to hit the 1Gh/s mark.

i guess it won't worth to mine VNL by GPUs when FPGA released (with more hash rate, low energy consumption)

Does anyone have a recommendation on a high powered FPGA to purchase? 

[pseudonymdude]

So, if the electricity costs will be much lower than with GPU, the price of vnl will not go higher, than it's now (during GPU minning). Am I right?

Impossible to predict, maybe something else will change the market.

So what's a point to allow FPGA's minning VNL?

A lower electric bill.

that will not happen.
difficulty will go up until it's barely profitable to mine with fpga, or even higher.
that's how it works: if there is money to be made, people will come and mine, until difficulty is so high that someone must leave.
it balances itself.

Maybe the point is to secure the network.

No, the point is probably that the only people who can mine anything profitably with GPUs are farms that pay an extremely low subsidized price per kwh (or use subsidized solar panels).

So, let's move this coin to FPGA farms :-D
Or... They may be mining it already....
The only purpose is being ahead of them for some days.

Or the people who pay for more powerful optimized miners in the earlier days reaping in much more profit with their farms compared to others.

Private VNL GPU miners might even be optimized to hit the 1Gh/s mark.

i guess it won't worth to mine VNL by GPUs when FPGA released (with more hash rate, low energy consumption)

Does anyone have a recommendation on a high powered FPGA to purchase? 

Wait until everything is ready and you know what's compatible and what you're buying.  Don't just buy any FPGA.

[Erkallys]

For those who wonder about the announcement you can find it here:

https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/140/minerpp-miner-project

I am a layman and not sure I understand.  Did John create an FPGA download?  Does this mean I can purchase a few FPGA's and install his code and it will work?  Please advise.  No techhie here. Sorry.

-pokeytex

John did not finish or release a bin to mine with FPGAs yet.

Will it be profitable to mine with GPU after FPGA's release?

That's not something you can predict.  It depends on the VNL price and your electricity costs, along with the amount of hash.

Some numbers that have been thrown around are 200 mh/s - 250 mh/s @ 5w for $80 FPGAs.  So, the cost per mh/s is similar compared to a used gpu, but electricity cost will be 1/25 or so.

Remember, GPUs got higher rewards.  In a little over 7 weeks, rewards will drop to 74 VNL per block.

The FPGAs seems exciting ! But something that afraid me is maybe the setup of this :/. The setup is the same that ccminer/sgminer ? Does it is plugged to a PC during the setup ? Does it is standalone ?

No one can help me ?

[pseudonymdude]

For those who wonder about the announcement you can find it here:

https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/140/minerpp-miner-project

I am a layman and not sure I understand.  Did John create an FPGA download?  Does this mean I can purchase a few FPGA's and install his code and it will work?  Please advise.  No techhie here. Sorry.

-pokeytex

John did not finish or release a bin to mine with FPGAs yet.

Will it be profitable to mine with GPU after FPGA's release?

That's not something you can predict.  It depends on the VNL price and your electricity costs, along with the amount of hash.

Some numbers that have been thrown around are 200 mh/s - 250 mh/s @ 5w for $80 FPGAs.  So, the cost per mh/s is similar compared to a used gpu, but electricity cost will be 1/25 or so.

Remember, GPUs got higher rewards.  In a little over 7 weeks, rewards will drop to 74 VNL per block.

The FPGAs seems exciting ! But something that afraid me is maybe the setup of this :/. The setup is the same that ccminer/sgminer ? Does it is plugged to a PC during the setup ? Does it is standalone ?

No one can help me ?

Wait until more details are released.

If it's just a bin, it shouldn't be too much harder than editing a .bat file to enter your pool and login.

Edit: Oh yeah.  It needs to be plugged into some kind of PC.  I think a Raspberry Pi would work.

[Erkallys]

For those who wonder about the announcement you can find it here:

https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/140/minerpp-miner-project

I am a layman and not sure I understand.  Did John create an FPGA download?  Does this mean I can purchase a few FPGA's and install his code and it will work?  Please advise.  No techhie here. Sorry.

-pokeytex

John did not finish or release a bin to mine with FPGAs yet.

Will it be profitable to mine with GPU after FPGA's release?

That's not something you can predict.  It depends on the VNL price and your electricity costs, along with the amount of hash.

Some numbers that have been thrown around are 200 mh/s - 250 mh/s @ 5w for $80 FPGAs.  So, the cost per mh/s is similar compared to a used gpu, but electricity cost will be 1/25 or so.

Remember, GPUs got higher rewards.  In a little over 7 weeks, rewards will drop to 74 VNL per block.

The FPGAs seems exciting ! But something that afraid me is maybe the setup of this :/. The setup is the same that ccminer/sgminer ? Does it is plugged to a PC during the setup ? Does it is standalone ?

No one can help me ?

Wait until more details are released.

If it's just a bin, it shouldn't be too much harder than editing a .bat file to enter your pool and login.

Edit: Oh yeah.  It needs to be plugged into some kind of PC.  I think a Raspberry Pi would work.

Ok thank you !

[maccaspacca]

minerpp is cool

built onto a raspberry pi no problem...... just because it could !!!!

hashing against the arm cpu..... very low hashes (as you would expect on a pi cpu) but you get the point

A breeze to compile and run





well done John

and thanks to xCore

might try fpga next.... if I can find one for free / cheap

[pokeytex]

minerpp is cool

built onto a raspberry pi no problem...... just because it could !!!!

hashing against the arm cpu..... very low hashes (as you would expect on a pi cpu) but you get the point

A breeze to compile and run





well done John

and thanks to xCore

might try fpga next.... if I can find one for free / cheap

Any chance you could show us a tutorial on how to upload to a Rpi? or Fpga?

[maccaspacca]

minerpp is cool

built onto a raspberry pi no problem...... just because it could !!!!

hashing against the arm cpu..... very low hashes (as you would expect on a pi cpu) but you get the point

A breeze to compile and run

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well done John

and thanks to xCore

might try fpga next.... if I can find one for free / cheap

Any chance you could show us a tutorial on how to upload to a Rpi? or Fpga?

It's only running against the pi onboard cpu - no fpga yet

The process for pi is same as any linux

1. update the pi to 4.7 or better gcc / g++ (if you are on jessie it's already done but you have to update on wheezy - you can google how)
2. clone the source using git clone
3. run ./build_linux.sh in the minerpp folder

Once I find an fpga I am going to try - will update on here if I am successful

[pokeytex]

minerpp is cool

built onto a raspberry pi no problem...... just because it could !!!!

hashing against the arm cpu..... very low hashes (as you would expect on a pi cpu) but you get the point

A breeze to compile and run

<--snip-->

well done John

and thanks to xCore

might try fpga next.... if I can find one for free / cheap

Any chance you could show us a tutorial on how to upload to a Rpi? or Fpga?

It's only running against the pi onboard cpu - no fpga yet

The process for pi is same as any linux

1. update the pi to 4.7 or better gcc / g++ (if you are on jessie it's already done but you have to update on wheezy - you can google how)
2. clone the source using git clone
3. run ./build_linux.sh in the minerpp folder

Once I find an fpga I am going to try - will update on here if I am successful

Which R Pi did you run it on?

[maccaspacca]

R Pi ver B

[MasterChang]

any updates on IOS and ANDROID wallets?

[bitspill]

any updates on IOS and ANDROID wallets?

Think betas are coming this week from what I saw

Edit: for android

[pseudonymdude]

any updates on IOS and ANDROID wallets?

https://twitter.com/john_a_connor/status/594576845728653312

[bitspill]

any updates on IOS and ANDROID wallets?

https://twitter.com/john_a_connor/status/594576845728653312

Yea that's were I saw it last night, forefoot iOS though

[d0om]

Are there any (recent) guides about FPGAs, raspberyy pi's, etc around that I could look at? Might be a fun project

[pseudonymdude]

Are there any (recent) guides about FPGAs, raspberyy pi's, etc around that I could look at? Might be a fun project

Don't buy an FPGA until John's finished.  No FPGA miner has been released yet.

Also, you don't need to use a raspberry pi.  It's just an option.  You can use any pc.

[traumschiff]

News 04/05

Wallet version 0.2.7 released. Changes:

• Clients and Peers now store their blockchain in separate disk locations.
• Lowered Proof-of-Stake interval for clients to 200 seconds.
• General Bug Fixes

Note: Your client will automatically re-download the blockchain to the proper location given your platform. Future releases will remove the old blockchain files.

Original announcement: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/141/version-0-2-7-beta-release

Download link: http://vanillacoin.net/wallets.php

[yaoxin]

Thank you for update