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December 03, 2014, 10:29:38 PM
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Given AM's disasters with their chip/Prisma/Tube, let's hope they put in the winning bid at the HashFast IP auction tomorrow.

As a direct and indirect shareholder, I would hate to see KnC/BitFury/Cointerra beat them to 4th gen 16nm FinFET ASICS, especially when they have to opportunity to catch up by simply buying HF's GN2 design at a discount.


That would be a crazy twist of events.   It's not going to happen, I think we both know that...
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December 04, 2014, 12:47:13 AM
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Given AM's disasters with their chip/Prisma/Tube, let's hope they put in the winning bid at the HashFast IP auction tomorrow.

As a direct and indirect shareholder, I would hate to see KnC/BitFury/Cointerra beat them to 4th gen 16nm FinFET ASICS, especially when they have to opportunity to catch up by simply buying HF's GN2 design at a discount.


That would be a crazy twist of events.   It's not going to happen, I think we both know that...

I'm interested. Why don't you think it will happen? You never know...  Wink

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December 04, 2014, 02:47:10 AM
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Good to hear they are compensating users with defective units
Kind of sad that there were so many that needed compensating.

Hmm so in AMhash no new units per a week greater dividend split

Next week
AMHASH3 will be the same price as AMHASH2.

Bonus GH/s Units will be provided to large buyers of the AMHASH3 Fund.

Official announcement today.

Guess its ok

As an aside difficulty went down for the first time in 2 YEARS

Bitcoin mining difficulty has decreased for the first time in two years. The minor 0.62% drop was observed yesterday and currently stands at 40,007,470,271, down from 40,300,030,238.

The difficulty level crossed the 40,000,000,000 mark late last month, peaking after several consecutive quarters of rapid growth. The 1,000,000,000 milestone was passed last December, while the last difficulty drop was recorded back in late 2012.
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December 04, 2014, 03:10:24 AM
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Given AM's disasters with their chip/Prisma/Tube, let's hope they put in the winning bid at the HashFast IP auction tomorrow.

As a direct and indirect shareholder, I would hate to see KnC/BitFury/Cointerra beat them to 4th gen 16nm FinFET ASICS, especially when they have to opportunity to catch up by simply buying HF's GN2 design at a discount.


That would be a crazy twist of events.   It's not going to happen, I think we both know that...

I'm interested. Why don't you think it will happen? You never know...  Wink

why buy someone else's IP?

The story given by asicminer was that the current gen of chips effectively came in at half of expectations, but for a reason they identified - presumably the next gen will be the same architecture but at the previously-promised ~0.4w/GH

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December 04, 2014, 03:32:51 AM
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why buy someone else's IP?

The story given by asicminer was that the current gen of chips effectively came in at half of expectations, but for a reason they identified - presumably the next gen will be the same architecture but at the previously-promised ~0.4w/GH

The latest info on gen 4 is that samples will be in hand around Dec 16th and have the following specs:

Process: tsmc 28nm hpc

Package: fclga (5mm x 5mm)

Normal Mode:
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    8gh/s-12gh/s per chip for mass production
    0.343w/g on chip
    ~0.3w/g on chip for mass production

Low Power Mode:
    0.55v vdd
    4.5gh/s per chip
    6gh/s-9gh/s per chip for mass production
    0.225w/g on chip
    ~0.2w/g on chip for mass production

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December 04, 2014, 08:26:12 AM
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I think Icebreaker was talking about gen5.
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December 04, 2014, 08:30:27 AM
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I think Icebreaker was talking about gen5.

i think icebreaker is a HF shill.
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Yup...too much risk buying a "proprietary" design from a defunct business.  For all anyone knows, they could sell it to multiple parties without any regulation (unless there are actually patents and lawyers involved, though again, HF's balance sheet would indicate otherwise).

On a side note...it would appear as though someone is testing/sprint burning ~30 PH/s at odd intervals to directly impact (or even directly aim to set) the difficulty, and perhaps the fiat price.  There's no way those two enormous booms in hashrate centered around the 1st of November and now December have been due to aggregate luck alone.


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December 04, 2014, 02:35:20 PM
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Yup...too much risk buying a "proprietary" design from a defunct business.  For all anyone knows, they could sell it to multiple parties without any regulation (unless there are actually patents and lawyers involved, though again, HF's balance sheet would indicate otherwise).

On a side note...it would appear as though someone is testing/sprint burning ~30 PH/s at odd intervals to directly impact (or even directly aim to set) the difficulty, and perhaps the fiat price.  There's no way those two enormous booms in hashrate centered around the 1st of November and now December have been due to aggregate luck alone.


Of course it could be luck. You're talking about 504 block luck being ~6-7% higher than the 2014 block average. That's high, but hardly impossibly or even unlikely.
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Yup...too much risk buying a "proprietary" design from a defunct business.  For all anyone knows, they could sell it to multiple parties without any regulation (unless there are actually patents and lawyers involved, though again, HF's balance sheet would indicate otherwise).

On a side note...it would appear as though someone is testing/sprint burning ~30 PH/s at odd intervals to directly impact (or even directly aim to set) the difficulty, and perhaps the fiat price.  There's no way those two enormous booms in hashrate centered around the 1st of November and now December have been due to aggregate luck alone.


Of course it could be luck. You're talking about 504 block luck being ~6-7% higher than the 2014 block average. That's high, but hardly impossibly or even unlikely.

Perhaps you're right...it wasn't like the price swung either way to compensate, which assuming we're at an aggregate network marginal revenue = cost point, it should have (at least in a non-stochastic model, which...right).

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December 04, 2014, 10:59:45 PM
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i think icebreaker is a HF shill.

...said the guy with a HUGE CHEESY ASICMINER PRISMA SIGNATURE AD...

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December 05, 2014, 02:01:03 AM
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Yup...too much risk buying a "proprietary" design from a defunct business.  For all anyone knows, they could sell it to multiple parties without any regulation (unless there are actually patents and lawyers involved, though again, HF's balance sheet would indicate otherwise).

On a side note...it would appear as though someone is testing/sprint burning ~30 PH/s at odd intervals to directly impact (or even directly aim to set) the difficulty, and perhaps the fiat price.  There's no way those two enormous booms in hashrate centered around the 1st of November and now December have been due to aggregate luck alone.


I don't think anyone just turns on and off 30 ph
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December 05, 2014, 08:43:59 AM
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More cloud mining
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2oci4f/pahash1_salestopped_800t_only_in_3_dayswhat_a/

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December 05, 2014, 11:45:42 PM
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i think icebreaker is a HF shill.

...said the guy with a HUGE CHEESY ASICMINER PRISMA SIGNATURE AD...

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And? Care to elaborate why hdbuck's signature has anything to do with you being a HF shill, fucktard?
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December 06, 2014, 12:03:23 AM
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Thought I read somewhere that the site in that reddit post is a scam...
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December 06, 2014, 12:08:37 AM
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I posted that earlier but I deleted the post. I asked AMhash if they were reselling AMHash and was told they were not. The reddit post doesn't mention AMHash though, just ASICminer. So, there might be such a deal in place that AMHash doesn't know about. I thought it best to delete the post until it can be clarified by FC.

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December 06, 2014, 01:23:38 AM
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No wonder then I couldn't find the post saying it  Cheesy

EDIT: would like a confirmation/denial from FC though. Usually he makes a confirming post if a thread is started on here by the reseller. Might be in the chinese subforum but alas I don't speak chinese  Wink
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December 06, 2014, 01:43:59 AM
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i think icebreaker is a HF shill.

...said the guy with a HUGE CHEESY ASICMINER PRISMA SIGNATURE AD...

 Grin   Grin Grin   Grin

And? Care to elaborate why hdbuck's signature has anything to do with you being a HF shill, fucktard?

You really are dense if you don't see the irony in someone with a HUGE CHEESY SHILL SIG calling someone else (who do not have such a sig) a "shill."

The Prisma is reviled as a POS.  How can anyone honestly seek to inflict then on others?


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December 06, 2014, 05:43:31 PM
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I posted that earlier but I deleted the post. I asked AMhash if they were reselling AMHash and was told they were not. The reddit post doesn't mention AMHash though, just ASICminer. So, there might be such a deal in place that AMHash doesn't know about. I thought it best to delete the post until it can be clarified by FC.

Good luck with that.

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December 06, 2014, 09:52:26 PM
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You know how some people have trouble dealing with grief?  Mothers keeping the kid's room untouched for years after a child dies, imagining the kid's going to come home any time now, that sort of thing?

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