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Author Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It  (Read 3917041 times)
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June 24, 2013, 06:38:59 PM
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Did the hashrate drop to 10 TH?
The 24-hour hash rate estimate dropped to around 11.5 TH: http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/

But that's just an estimate, only ASICMiner knows the answer.

Here's a 24 hour chart in 4 hour increments:

http://www.dpcapital.net/blockchain/?hours=4,8,12,16,20,24


there is no date or time there where is this info coming from that is not a open public site..thanks

It comes from the same place everyone else uses.. Blockchain's JSON API.

Their API only gives 36 hours of data. I just poll it every minute and store the information so that you can go back for as long as you want (starting at about 11 days ago.)

Here's one for the past 11 days:

http://www.dpcapital.net/blockchain/?hours=24,48,72,96,120,144,168,192,216,240

how comes the hashrate is going down on the chart while it says blocks being found is increasing?..thanks

Hashrate is the product of blocks found, the timeframe in which they were found, and the current network difficulty.

For example, if I found 2 blocks in 1 hour, I'd be mining at an estimated ~45 th/s. If I found 2 blocks in 2 hours, I'd be mining at 22.5 th/s (half of the 1 hour rate.)

Hope this makes sense.. ASICMINER does not publish their hashrate, so we must infer the hashrate from the data we have available.

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June 24, 2013, 06:42:54 PM
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Did the hashrate drop to 10 TH?
The 24-hour hash rate estimate dropped to around 11.5 TH: http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/

But that's just an estimate, only ASICMiner knows the answer.

Here's a 24 hour chart in 4 hour increments:

http://www.dpcapital.net/blockchain/?hours=4,8,12,16,20,24


there is no date or time there where is this info coming from that is not a open public site..thanks




It comes from the same place everyone else uses.. Blockchain's JSON API.

Their API only gives 36 hours of data. I just poll it every minute and store the information so that you can go back for as long as you want (starting at about 11 days ago.)

Here's one for the past 11 days:

http://www.dpcapital.net/blockchain/?hours=24,48,72,96,120,144,168,192,216,240

how comes the hashrate is going down on the chart while it says blocks being found is increasing?..thanks

Hashrate is the product of blocks found, the timeframe in which they were found, and the current network difficulty.

For example, if I found 2 blocks in 1 hour, I'd be mining at an estimated ~45 th/s. If I found 2 blocks in 2 hours, I'd be mining at 22.5 th/s (half of the 1 hour rate.)

Hope this makes sense.. ASICMINER does not publish their hashrate, so we must infer the hashrate from the data we have available.

Ian


the only info  i see is for BitGuild so ...hmmm
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June 24, 2013, 06:44:40 PM
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Did the hashrate drop to 10 TH?
The 24-hour hash rate estimate dropped to around 11.5 TH: http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/

But that's just an estimate, only ASICMiner knows the answer.

Here's a 24 hour chart in 4 hour increments:

http://www.dpcapital.net/blockchain/?hours=4,8,12,16,20,24


there is no date or time there where is this info coming from that is not a open public site..thanks




It comes from the same place everyone else uses.. Blockchain's JSON API.

Their API only gives 36 hours of data. I just poll it every minute and store the information so that you can go back for as long as you want (starting at about 11 days ago.)

Here's one for the past 11 days:

http://www.dpcapital.net/blockchain/?hours=24,48,72,96,120,144,168,192,216,240

how comes the hashrate is going down on the chart while it says blocks being found is increasing?..thanks

Hashrate is the product of blocks found, the timeframe in which they were found, and the current network difficulty.

For example, if I found 2 blocks in 1 hour, I'd be mining at an estimated ~45 th/s. If I found 2 blocks in 2 hours, I'd be mining at 22.5 th/s (half of the 1 hour rate.)

Hope this makes sense.. ASICMINER does not publish their hashrate, so we must infer the hashrate from the data we have available.

Ian


the only info  i see is for BitGuild so ...hmmm

Not sure where you're looking, but the info is there. Check your PMs, I can give you links to answer your questions, as most of them have been asked here ad nauseum.

Ian
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June 24, 2013, 07:08:27 PM
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Can we get an AM ad on the jumbotron in Times Square?

This is just my opinion, but I don't think AM needs or wants widespread investor awareness. The general public isn't aware of BTC, much less a foreign company mining and selling BTC mining hardware. Presuming Joe investor gets over those concepts, they then get to learn that purchasing shares amounts to using an "entertainment website" with pass-through shares and that "real" shares are maintained by a guy in China with spreadsheet. I really think that this is too much to expect.

Don't get me wrong - I'm comfortable with the setup and I actually think of AM as a fairly transparent company considering that we can track blocks mined by the hour/day and dividends by the week. I just think that the average investor on this forum needs to be drastically different than someone with an E*TRADE account, still pissed about losing money on the FB IPO.

Things that I think would help:
- Investors should use pass-through shares whenever they think they might hold the shares for less than 90 days or for transactions fewer than 10-20 shares. There are over 100 owners with shares in the single digits and I imagine that this creates extra administrative overhead for AM.
- We should continue to push for and support distributors for AM hardware, worldwide. It would also be best if the distributors would handle first line support for any warranty or user help issues, since this reduces the administrative costs for AM. Also, AM hasn't had a problem moving their products, but sooner or later they will have competition from existing firms or new ones. As miners finally have real choices for where to obtain their hardware, $/GH will drop, minimum purchase quantities will drop and ease of purchase will need to increase. The more we can do to get AM hardware sold, the better off we'll all be.

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June 24, 2013, 07:10:57 PM
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Not sure where you're looking, but the info is there. Check your PMs, I can give you links to answer your questions, as most of them have been asked here ad nauseum.

Ian

He's a troll Ian, ignore him.
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June 24, 2013, 07:17:24 PM
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 mm ok cool i'm seeing that..so whats with the past 24 hours winding down?..thanks




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June 24, 2013, 08:52:04 PM
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This is just my opinion, but I don't think AM needs or wants widespread investor awareness. The general public isn't aware of BTC, much less a foreign company mining and selling BTC mining hardware. Presuming Joe investor gets over those concepts, they then get to learn that purchasing shares amounts to using an "entertainment website" with pass-through shares and that "real" shares are maintained by a guy in China with spreadsheet. I really think that this is too much to expect.

I wasn't saying it to advertise shares, it's to advertise their hardware.  The same thing about a sales site.  Advertising their stocks has no benefit to them, but selling more hardware does.

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- Investors should use pass-through shares whenever they think they might hold the shares for less than 90 days or for transactions fewer than 10-20 shares. There are over 100 owners with shares in the single digits and I imagine that this creates extra administrative overhead for AM.
I completely disagree with this.  If it is too much work, then they need to get a better system.  Why should shareholders be inconvenienced because AM has failed to put proper systems in place?  I've seen a number of people offer to help, code or do whatever to get some sort of share system in place, but AM has refused.  They are choosing the current system, not us. 


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June 24, 2013, 08:59:00 PM
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This is just my opinion, but I don't think AM needs or wants widespread investor awareness. The general public isn't aware of BTC, much less a foreign company mining and selling BTC mining hardware. Presuming Joe investor gets over those concepts, they then get to learn that purchasing shares amounts to using an "entertainment website" with pass-through shares and that "real" shares are maintained by a guy in China with spreadsheet. I really think that this is too much to expect.

I wasn't saying it to advertise shares, it's to advertise their hardware.  The same thing about a sales site.  Advertising their stocks has no benefit to them, but selling more hardware does.

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- Investors should use pass-through shares whenever they think they might hold the shares for less than 90 days or for transactions fewer than 10-20 shares. There are over 100 owners with shares in the single digits and I imagine that this creates extra administrative overhead for AM.
I completely disagree with this.  If it is too much work, then they need to get a better system.  Why should shareholders be inconvenienced because AM has failed to put proper systems in place?  I've seen a number of people offer to help, code or do whatever to get some sort of share system in place, but AM has refused.  They are choosing the current system, not us. 




i'm thinking that as BTC is crashing BTC pours into BTCT type plays just to try to save ones ass...or buy drugs off the road maybe more profit but dangerous market ..lol
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June 24, 2013, 09:02:02 PM
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This is just my opinion, but I don't think AM needs or wants widespread investor awareness. The general public isn't aware of BTC, much less a foreign company mining and selling BTC mining hardware. Presuming Joe investor gets over those concepts, they then get to learn that purchasing shares amounts to using an "entertainment website" with pass-through shares and that "real" shares are maintained by a guy in China with spreadsheet. I really think that this is too much to expect.

I wasn't saying it to advertise shares, it's to advertise their hardware.  The same thing about a sales site.  Advertising their stocks has no benefit to them, but selling more hardware does.

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- Investors should use pass-through shares whenever they think they might hold the shares for less than 90 days or for transactions fewer than 10-20 shares. There are over 100 owners with shares in the single digits and I imagine that this creates extra administrative overhead for AM.
I completely disagree with this.  If it is too much work, then they need to get a better system.  Why should shareholders be inconvenienced because AM has failed to put proper systems in place?  I've seen a number of people offer to help, code or do whatever to get some sort of share system in place, but AM has refused.  They are choosing the current system, not us. 



I think ASICMiner's plan to focus on wholesale is better than selling directly to consumers.

https://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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June 24, 2013, 09:11:47 PM
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This is just my opinion, but I don't think AM needs or wants widespread investor awareness. The general public isn't aware of BTC, much less a foreign company mining and selling BTC mining hardware. Presuming Joe investor gets over those concepts, they then get to learn that purchasing shares amounts to using an "entertainment website" with pass-through shares and that "real" shares are maintained by a guy in China with spreadsheet. I really think that this is too much to expect.

I wasn't saying it to advertise shares, it's to advertise their hardware.  The same thing about a sales site.  Advertising their stocks has no benefit to them, but selling more hardware does.

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- Investors should use pass-through shares whenever they think they might hold the shares for less than 90 days or for transactions fewer than 10-20 shares. There are over 100 owners with shares in the single digits and I imagine that this creates extra administrative overhead for AM.
I completely disagree with this.  If it is too much work, then they need to get a better system.  Why should shareholders be inconvenienced because AM has failed to put proper systems in place?  I've seen a number of people offer to help, code or do whatever to get some sort of share system in place, but AM has refused.  They are choosing the current system, not us.  




I think ASICMiner's plan to focus on wholesale is better than selling directly to consumers.



official channels are being achived as we speak...uplist to real stock exchange is in the cards imo..thanks
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June 24, 2013, 10:57:45 PM
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CanaryInTheMine is selling USB miners like hotcakes... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241414.0

And this is probably just US customers for the most part with the recent reseller agreements friedcat set up...

ASICMINER IS DOOMED SELL YOUR SHARES! (So I can buy them cheep and take in the epic div for this week!)

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June 24, 2013, 10:59:25 PM
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CanaryInTheMine is selling USB miners like hotcakes... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241414.0

And this is probably just US customers for the most part with the recent reseller agreements friedcat set up...

ASICMINER IS DOOMED SELL YOUR SHARES! (So I can buy them cheep and take in the epic div for this week!)

Do you think some divs from the new wave of USB sales will be included in this week dividends? That would be pretty damn fast.

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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June 24, 2013, 11:03:08 PM
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CanaryInTheMine is selling USB miners like hotcakes... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241414.0

And this is probably just US customers for the most part with the recent reseller agreements friedcat set up...

ASICMINER IS DOOMED SELL YOUR SHARES! (So I can buy them cheep and take in the epic div for this week!)

Sssh aahz XD we got to pretend that theirs no hope here
And some probably will be binary

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June 24, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
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Hmm interesting the Hash dropoff is at the nearly same exact time like last week.
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June 24, 2013, 11:08:16 PM
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Hmm interesting the Hash dropoff is at the nearly same exact time like last week.

Again ,network connection error.
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June 24, 2013, 11:11:13 PM
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CanaryInTheMine is selling USB miners like hotcakes... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241414.0

And this is probably just US customers for the most part with the recent reseller agreements friedcat set up...

ASICMINER IS DOOMED SELL YOUR SHARES! (So I can buy them cheep and take in the epic div for this week!)

Sssh aahz XD we got to pretend that theirs no hope here
And some probably will be binary

Ah shoot spoke too soon this is actually real news
Klondike news edited out url the usual vets will know where to reference
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My K16 is hashing with 1 chip.

It's not giving a correct result nonce yet but I'm almost 99% sure that's due to errors in precalc code or maybe I'm shifting in word order backwards.

I soldered an ASIC on the board this morning and spent all day twiddling this and that, mostly getting the clock config right. Then bamm I saw something that looked like nonce bits coming out but they were stunted little bits trying desperately to reach high. But the twinkle was enough and I went through the Avalon reference design again to check and realized I'd not used the correct pull-up value for the result lines. Somehow I f'd up and spec'd 100k resistors instead of 470R. So I quickly removed them and soldered in some 1K that I had here. And the bits sprung forth to their full heights. I was totally excited and hopping around my work bench. Even my wife was in to see what the big commotion was about.

So... next step, test the UART receiver, and muck with the send data until the right nonce comes back.

BTW I'm running at half clock b/c no heat sink attached yet. The chip gets slightly warmish to the finger. With only one chip and half clock you have to set the scope trigger and hold the probes for a while until a nonce is found. I counted about 4-8 seconds but of course it depends on what point it is in it's cycle. One chip at half clock (128MHz) would be about 33 seconds for a full sweep.

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June 24, 2013, 11:12:25 PM
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Hmm interesting the Hash dropoff is at the nearly same exact time like last week.

Apparently the server room girl and friedcat are going "steady".

Jokes aside, It is interesting how the share price rose as the hashrate topped new highs even though ASICMINER was very clear about planning to maintain a specific percentage of the network Hashrate. I understand the rise in share price from earlier increase of hash power as ASICMINER was trying to reach that percentage but I don't really understand the last rise of value correlation to hash rate since ASICMINER wasn't trying to significantly rise the controlled hashing power percentage.

Maybe it was undervalued to begin with or it is simply the friedcat effect?

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June 24, 2013, 11:55:11 PM
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Has anyone got any insight as to why the asicminercharts website say that asicminer hasnt mined any new coins since about 4 hours ago?
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June 24, 2013, 11:56:28 PM
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simply the friedcat effect?
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June 25, 2013, 12:03:14 AM
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Has anyone got any insight as to why the asicminercharts website say that asicminer hasnt mined any new coins since about 4 hours ago?

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