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December 26, 2013, 02:32:39 AM |
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You would be very foolish to buy at IPO prices, they're worth less than half of that.
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jimmothy
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December 26, 2013, 02:54:56 AM |
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You would be very foolish to buy at IPO prices, they're worth less than half of that.
Have any AM shares you want to sell me for 0.05btc each? Of course you don't. |
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bitsalame
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Preaching the gospel of Satoshi
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December 26, 2013, 04:04:48 AM |
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You would be very foolish to buy at IPO prices, they're worth less than half of that.
sell me yours then |
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empoweoqwj
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December 26, 2013, 04:33:18 AM |
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According to havelock, they are worth ฿0.2998
Given dividends were rubbish this week, I don't see them going much lower. Unless we get some bad news out of AM, which is always possible.
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AlexMc
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December 26, 2013, 05:04:22 AM |
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According to havelock, they are worth ฿0.2998
Given dividends were rubbish this week, I don't see them going much lower. Unless we get some bad news out of AM, which is always possible.
I don't think we can look to the Havelock pricing at this point. They haven't paid this weeks dividend yet. I'd be surprised to see the share price hold at this level once Havelock have published the dividend for 24 hours. |
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empoweoqwj
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December 26, 2013, 05:15:02 AM |
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According to havelock, they are worth ฿0.2998
Given dividends were rubbish this week, I don't see them going much lower. Unless we get some bad news out of AM, which is always possible.
I don't think we can look to the Havelock pricing at this point. They haven't paid this weeks dividend yet. I'd be surprised to see the share price hold at this level once Havelock have published the dividend for 24 hours. People know what divs are for this week surely? They don't have to wait for them to appear at havelock to know what is coming. Also, the vast majority of shares are not held at havelock, but are direct. |
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willBTC
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December 26, 2013, 05:51:18 AM |
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According to havelock, they are worth ฿0.2998
Given dividends were rubbish this week, I don't see them going much lower. Unless we get some bad news out of AM, which is always possible.
I don't think we can look to the Havelock pricing at this point. They haven't paid this weeks dividend yet. I'd be surprised to see the share price hold at this level once Havelock have published the dividend for 24 hours. People know what divs are for this week surely? They don't have to wait for them to appear at havelock to know what is coming. Also, the vast majority of shares are not held at havelock, but are direct. I think most share holders have already known the dividend this week . |
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explorer
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December 26, 2013, 07:28:53 AM |
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According to havelock, they are worth ฿0.2998
Given dividends were rubbish this week, I don't see them going much lower. Unless we get some bad news out of AM, which is always possible.
I don't think we can look to the Havelock pricing at this point. They haven't paid this weeks dividend yet. I'd be surprised to see the share price hold at this level once Havelock have published the dividend for 24 hours. People know what divs are for this week surely? They don't have to wait for them to appear at havelock to know what is coming. Also, the vast majority of shares are not held at havelock, but are direct. I think most share holders have already known the dividend this week . Plus the dump from .32 to .27 happened @ announcement, and recovered over the day to almost .30 again. Faster than I expected. Test again next week  |
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empoweoqwj
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December 26, 2013, 08:30:45 AM |
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According to havelock, they are worth ฿0.2998
Given dividends were rubbish this week, I don't see them going much lower. Unless we get some bad news out of AM, which is always possible.
I don't think we can look to the Havelock pricing at this point. They haven't paid this weeks dividend yet. I'd be surprised to see the share price hold at this level once Havelock have published the dividend for 24 hours. People know what divs are for this week surely? They don't have to wait for them to appear at havelock to know what is coming. Also, the vast majority of shares are not held at havelock, but are direct. I think most share holders have already known the dividend this week . Plus the dump from .32 to .27 happened @ announcement, and recovered over the day to almost .30 again. Faster than I expected. Test again next week I think this was the big test, and the price hasn't really budged. Sure, divs can go lower, but they are so low now, it won't make much difference to share price. Upcoming tests of share price will be more news-based than divs-based ... finally  |
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explorer
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December 26, 2013, 08:38:19 AM |
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According to havelock, they are worth ฿0.2998
Given dividends were rubbish this week, I don't see them going much lower. Unless we get some bad news out of AM, which is always possible.
I don't think we can look to the Havelock pricing at this point. They haven't paid this weeks dividend yet. I'd be surprised to see the share price hold at this level once Havelock have published the dividend for 24 hours. People know what divs are for this week surely? They don't have to wait for them to appear at havelock to know what is coming. Also, the vast majority of shares are not held at havelock, but are direct. I think most share holders have already known the dividend this week . Plus the dump from .32 to .27 happened @ announcement, and recovered over the day to almost .30 again. Faster than I expected. Test again next week I think this was the big test, and the price hasn't really budged. Sure, divs can go lower, but they are so low now, it won't make much difference to share price. Upcoming tests of share price will be more news-based than divs-based ... finally True. divs are likely to half or less before gen3 rolls out, depending on competitor deployment. That hurts, but when you're expecting near zero anyway, meh. Even delays in deployment of G3 shouldn't be much of a shake. Anyone hodling that long isn't going to panic dump over a few more weeks. We can just hope for some forced liquidation sales  Even then, the fur is going to fly over who gets to snap them up, rather than better bargains. |
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willBTC
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December 26, 2013, 10:25:27 AM |
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For the long-term AM shares holders, I just only have one question: Do you have faith that Asicminer will get 5%~15% of the whole network in the next few years(maybe 2 years later or 5 years later ), and why ?
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empoweoqwj
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December 26, 2013, 10:54:05 AM |
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For the long-term AM shares holders, I just only have one question: Do you have faith that Asicminer will get 5%~15% of the whole network in the next few years(maybe 2 years later or 5 years later ), and why ?
Not faith, but hope. There are just too many unknowns to have "faith". Gen3 will tell us a great deal. Before that, we are just a bunch of thumb twiddlers ........... |
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romerun
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Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.
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December 26, 2013, 01:11:59 PM |
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bitfury came out with the kickass chip at the right moment and took almost half of the network, if AM can do the same they will, at least a few months
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Rival
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December 26, 2013, 02:24:37 PM |
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17 more days until scheduled Gen3 (40nm) tapeout if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. Just over two weeks. If they make this deadline I think folks will feel quite a bit more comfortable with their positions.
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Voodah
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December 26, 2013, 02:58:59 PM |
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17 more days until scheduled Gen3 (40nm) tapeout if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. Just over two weeks. If they make this deadline I think folks will feel quite a bit more comfortable with their positions.
Because every single ASIC deadline ever has been met on time. |
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bitdude
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December 26, 2013, 04:04:56 PM |
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I am happy I can say that my recent missing dividends problem was solved by FC. Thanks FC.
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jimmothy
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December 26, 2013, 06:12:02 PM |
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17 more days until scheduled Gen3 (40nm) tapeout if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. Just over two weeks. If they make this deadline I think folks will feel quite a bit more comfortable with their positions.
Because every single ASIC deadline ever has been met on time. How many deadlines has AM missed again? |
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Mabsark
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December 26, 2013, 06:48:48 PM |
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17 more days until scheduled Gen3 (40nm) tapeout if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. Just over two weeks. If they make this deadline I think folks will feel quite a bit more comfortable with their positions.
Because every single ASIC deadline ever has been met on time. How many deadlines has AM missed again? At least one. 2nd gen chips coming out in November. |
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jimmothy
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December 26, 2013, 06:51:54 PM |
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17 more days until scheduled Gen3 (40nm) tapeout if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. Just over two weeks. If they make this deadline I think folks will feel quite a bit more comfortable with their positions.
Because every single ASIC deadline ever has been met on time. How many deadlines has AM missed again? At least one. 2nd gen chips coming out in November. I don't remember an official statement about gen2. I think it was more or less hinted at with no clear date until it was decided to be skipped. |
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Mabsark
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December 26, 2013, 07:27:07 PM |
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17 more days until scheduled Gen3 (40nm) tapeout if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. Just over two weeks. If they make this deadline I think folks will feel quite a bit more comfortable with their positions.
Because every single ASIC deadline ever has been met on time. How many deadlines has AM missed again? At least one. 2nd gen chips coming out in November. I don't remember an official statement about gen2. I think it was more or less hinted at with no clear date until it was decided to be skipped. Here you go: Project Timeline
August-September: Deploy/sell all hashpower arriving in July and early August.
September-November: Deploy/sell the hashpower ordered at early July.
November-December: Experimental products of 2nd-gen chips and modular large-scale deployment solutions.
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