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Author Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It  (Read 3917030 times)
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October 30, 2014, 02:54:48 PM
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there are now    30707 shares on havelock. I dont keep track but wasnt this 24000 just few weeks ago ?
That was in the first quarter, time flies. They slowly rised beginning from May if I remember correctly.
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October 31, 2014, 01:35:46 AM
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<0.1 BTC a share.

This should get interesting.

It should now were in a state of limbo
How low can it go I guess is the short to midterm question
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October 31, 2014, 03:47:50 AM
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<0.1 BTC a share.

This should get interesting.

It should now were in a state of limbo
How low can it go I guess is the short to midterm question
Seeing 0.08

What is AM worth?  I mean, what is the company worth... how many PH of chips did they just order, what is their mine worth, what is their IP worth? etc.  Would it be out of the question to assume $20 million USD?

If so, the share prices are currently trading way below current 'value'.  20 million USD = around .147 btc / share.

I've been in this game for a while and I honestly can't remember the last time a bitcoin company was undervalued.
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October 31, 2014, 04:13:58 AM
Last edit: October 31, 2014, 04:31:52 AM by jjdub7
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<0.1 BTC a share.

This should get interesting.

It should now were in a state of limbo
How low can it go I guess is the short to midterm question
Seeing 0.08

What is AM worth?  I mean, what is the company worth... how many PH of chips did they just order, what is their mine worth, what is their IP worth? etc.  Would it be out of the question to assume $20 million USD?

If so, the share prices are currently trading way below current 'value'.  20 million USD = around .147 btc / share.

I've been in this game for a while and I honestly can't remember the last time a bitcoin company was undervalued.

I compare AM to Lentuo International, a small-cap auto reseller in and around Beijing that's traded on the NYSE.  Both have a specific sector and product that they offer, and both deal heavily with exports and foreign currency markets.  ASICMINER also directly produces the currency it transacts with for the foundation of its business.

https://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=LAS+Interactive#%7B%22range%22%3A%225y%22%2C%22scale%22%3A%22linear%22%7D

Its worth ~$50 million and has yet to ever pay dividends.  ASICMINER is worth ~$11 million at this time.  KnC et al have just received multiple millions in venture capital, yes?

I would also say that LAS and AM are both undervalued.  I own 1100 shares out of Lentuo's 35.6 million outstanding (compare to ASICminer's 400k shares outstanding).  Most of these are in my Roth IRA.  I believe both companies are going to be profitable in the long term, and are relatively cheap right now (especially AM with a low BTC price).
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October 31, 2014, 07:32:44 AM
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First divs from AMHash https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833704.msg9390799#msg9390799
927 satoshi.

Under development Modular UPGRADEABLE Miner (MUM). Looking for investors.
Changing one PCB with screwdriver and you have brand new miner in hand... Plug&Play, scalable from one module to thousands.
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October 31, 2014, 08:04:32 AM
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What is AM worth?  I mean, what is the company worth... how many PH of chips did they just order, what is their mine worth, what is their IP worth? etc.  Would it be out of the question to assume $20 million USD?

How much would you value a bitcoin mining asic company that already has a pile of pretty decent, working 28nm chips? Thats had them for over 6 months?
A company like, say, HashFast?

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I've been in this game for a while and I honestly can't remember the last time a bitcoin company was undervalued.

You forgot about PETA already? To be fair, if I were you, Id try to forget that too
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October 31, 2014, 08:52:31 AM
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IMMERSION COOLING

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October 31, 2014, 10:20:15 AM
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IMMERSION COOLING



No...these are air conditioning chillers on the roof of a building somewhere. Where exactly would the hashing units go when the radiators are angled like that? They almost meet in a perfect v at the bottom.

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October 31, 2014, 10:31:44 AM
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No...these are air conditioning chillers on the roof of a building somewhere. Where exactly would the hashing units go when the radiators are angled like that? They almost meet in a perfect v at the bottom.
Those are rooftop radiators in Hong Kong for a mining operation on lower a lower floor you twit.

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October 31, 2014, 10:33:38 AM
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Well AM tagged it as immersion cooling on their instagram profile
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October 31, 2014, 10:36:35 AM
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With immersion cooling, you still need to cool the coolant.
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October 31, 2014, 11:13:42 AM
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Well AM tagged it as immersion cooling on their instagram profile

They posted pictures of the indoor section too.
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October 31, 2014, 11:20:40 AM
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IMMERSION COOLING



This picture is very old. I remember it from maybe one year ago.

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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October 31, 2014, 11:23:03 AM
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Those must be the radiators for immersion cooling.
But yes, those pictures are very old. The images of the indoor part are also very old.
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October 31, 2014, 11:35:47 AM
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What is AM's Instagram called? I can't find anything for AM, asic miner, asicminer or friedcat.
 
And yeah, old picture is old.
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October 31, 2014, 11:41:29 AM
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What is AM's Instagram called? I can't find anything for AM, asic miner, asicminer or friedcat.
 
And yeah, old picture is old.

#Asicminerhash
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October 31, 2014, 02:02:42 PM
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What is AM's Instagram called? I can't find anything for AM, asic miner, asicminer or friedcat.
 
And yeah, old picture is old.

#Asicminerhash
http://instagram.com/asicminerhash
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October 31, 2014, 04:14:55 PM
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Why bother bag holding AM when we can hold ASMHash which pays dividends on the equipment we paid for as shareholders?
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October 31, 2014, 05:10:52 PM
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What is AM worth?  I mean, what is the company worth... how many PH of chips did they just order, what is their mine worth, what is their IP worth? etc.  Would it be out of the question to assume $20 million USD?

If so, the share prices are currently trading way below current 'value'.  20 million USD = around .147 btc / share.

I've been in this game for a while and I honestly can't remember the last time a bitcoin company was undervalued.

It does look like an undervalued play to me as well but with consideration to when investors can expect a return or payback on their investment through dividends is what keeps it at the price range its at now.
Fundamentals look solid though but cash flow to shareholders is what keeps it back.

Although by definition based on this ONE case reinvestment as an equity booster doesn't seem to work well lol.

http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/135.asp
Firms have decided not to pay dividends under the principle that their reinvestment strategies will, through stock price appreciation, lead to greater returns for the investor. Thus, investors who buy stocks that do not pay dividends prefer to see these companies reinvest their earnings to fund expansion and other projects which they hope will yield greater returns via rising stock price.

Although here the opposite is occurring so guess its speculative in that sense.

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October 31, 2014, 06:30:25 PM
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Why bother bag holding AM when we can hold ASMHash which pays dividends on the equipment we paid for as shareholders?

For the exact same reasons we don't sell all our shares and purchase mining hardware.
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