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Title: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 22, 2014, 01:31:13 AM
I know what you're thinking. Not again!!

Yes unfortunately. This latest shitcoin is being pushed hard in the Poloniex/cryptsy trollboxes, bitcointalk forums & social media as a fair coin when it has one of the most fraudulent distribution schemes in crypto so far.

Let's start with the original ANN mirrored here: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-hyp-hyperstake-proof-of-stake-750-annual-fork-launch.338527



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HyperStake will be created via hard fork of an existing coin, TruckCoin. The fork will occur Sun, 06 Jul 2014 20:30:25 GMT.

HyperStake
Faster-than-light crypto

High PoS coins like HBN (100%), CAP(200%), TEK(500%) is not enough? Enter HyperStake, the coin light-years ahead.

What is HYP?

HyperStake is meant to be an experimentation in cryptocurrency economics. Do you like the thrill of living on the bleeding edge, and get the features before the others? Then HyperStake is for you.
We won't experiment for the stake of experimenting. We want the coin to be viable too.
We will listen to you, we will use bounties for offloading work for on you.
HyperStake is using a fork launch, as mentioned above. This means we had to actually buy into the coin instead of creating an IPO or pre-mining. A quick warning that TRK did have a premine of 120k which is mostly spent and is completely unrelated and uncontrolled by the HYP team.

Hyperstake is based on Truckcoin.

Who are the devs?

Captain presstab and Commander davidlatapie are experienced holders and freelance devs of several coins (HBN, TEK, NOBL, TRK, MINT, XMR...). They are currently the only devs but are open to accept pull requests and submission from other community members.

HyperStake Technical Details:

Proof of Stake
90 Second Block Time
Minimum Age ~ 8 days
Maximum Age - 30 days
Annual Interest Rate - 750%
Maximum Stake Subsidy - 1,000 HYP
Recommended Block Size - 1,600 HYP

Why did you fork an existing coin?
After buying into TruckCoin and seeing the diminishing exchange rate because of lack of dev support, we decided to take things into our own hands. We are giving the TRK community a chance to make their coins worth something again. We get to take the coin into our own hands through a voluntary hard fork and we plan on adding many features through time. Join the experiment with us.

If you have TRK right now that you would like to be able to use as HYP, then it will need to be withdrawn from any of the exchanges and held in a wallet. You will then be able to locate the wallet.dat file in the appdata directory in the truckcoin folder. Make a copy of the wallet.dat and copy it over to the hyperstake folder. Note that this does not destroy or transfer your truckcoin or anything like that. If you have TRK before the fork you will essentially double your coins for free.

Wallet
We will release a wallet after the hard fork occurs. We will stake the first forked block and we will checkpoint it into the client, upload the repo, and link everyone to a freshly built wallet.

To Do
- Get an exchange
- Updated logo (right now using very basic design)
- Block explorer
- Website



Seems innocent enough. Since they're forking TRK, i'm sure they've given everyone plenty of time to buy TRK and get free HYP right? Wrong >:(



https://i.imgur.com/E66eVxQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/468h0H5.png


 :o


Mere HOURS, when they knew they were going to fork it weeks in advance  ???

This allowed these schemers to pick up cheap TRK unnoticed prior to launching/forking their new HYP coin (don't worry, i'm sure they didn't do this due to their impeccable morals.. HAHAHAHAHAH) allowing them to get freee HYP at the fork. Not to mention the bags of the TRK shitcoin they were holding which prompted them to start this Hyperscam in the first place.

This is called buying with inside information (insider trading) and it's ILLIGAL! If this were securities/stocks/equities and not crypto, these clowns would be spending years in FEDERAL PRISON for insider trading.

Guaranteed i'm not the only one that has a problem with this distribution scheme... clearly the launch/fork date needed to be edited out of the present day ANN (it has been) else it might raise some questions!

HYP has had close to a 1000% rise in the past few weeks, time to put a stop to this nonsense... shitcoins like this give crypto a bad name. The game is rigged friends and guess who benefits?  Surprise! captain and commander here at the top of the richlist.



https://i.imgur.com/3UqOtGY.png








Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM [The truth will set you free]
Post by: freedomsr40 on October 22, 2014, 01:58:07 AM
you really should just stop...seriously this crap is getting old...move along now


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM [The truth will set you free]
Post by: locohammerhead on October 22, 2014, 01:59:51 AM
I have one word for that.  So?  I had TRK and I didn't know about HYP until a few months later.  So what?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM [The truth will set you free]
Post by: Hypnotique on October 22, 2014, 02:03:27 AM
you really should just stop...seriously this crap is getting old...move along now

I agree, stop buying into the HYP. Do your research


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: milly6 on October 22, 2014, 02:18:35 AM
I hope you realize this thread will cause some people to buy HYP just despite you. Have a good day.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: locohammerhead on October 22, 2014, 02:50:37 AM
Thank you for the free PR.  Much appreciated!


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 22, 2014, 02:51:47 AM
I hope you realize this thread will cause some people to buy HYP just despite you. Have a good day.

I considered posting it on the HYP thread, but it's a self-moderated thread. Lol, imagine that


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: freedomsr40 on October 22, 2014, 03:52:25 AM
why do u hate hyp so much? i dont get it


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: V@n@dis on October 22, 2014, 04:25:28 AM
will be buying another few hyp today.  :)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Real_Unhooked on October 22, 2014, 04:45:01 AM
FUD is good. More PR


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: El_Kabong on October 22, 2014, 04:53:01 AM
For every 1 FUD against HYP ... 100 new people invest in hyp


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Real_Unhooked on October 22, 2014, 04:55:05 AM
HYP at one point traded at 200 - 400 sats.


Title: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL scam tastic !
Post by: Spoetnik on October 22, 2014, 07:29:49 AM
TruckCoin ? ahhahahha

nice find i had no idea..

no wonder after 1,000 convo's with those spamming bag holders they avoided mentioning that !
not even one fucking time did any of those fucking scummy fucktard scammers mention that..

thanks for the info i will make fucking damn sure people know about this scammy idiot bullshit !
they wouldn't have hid that info from me when i asked about the coin 100 fucking times unless they KNEW it was bad !

HYP tard's you are seriously fucked trust me ;)


Title: Re: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL scam tastic !
Post by: ILoveBigBlackCocks on October 22, 2014, 08:34:10 AM
TruckCoin ? ahhahahha

nice find i had no idea..

no wonder after 1,000 convo's with those spamming bag holders they avoided mentioning that !
not even one fucking time did any of those fucking scummy fucktard scammers mention that..

thanks for the info i will make fucking damn sure people know about this scammy idiot bullshit !
they wouldn't have hid that info from me when i asked about the coin 100 fucking times unless they KNEW it was bad !

HYP tard's you are seriously fucked trust me ;)

I don't think anyone was hiding this fact from you.  No one even thought to mention it.  I find it odd too that you throw accusations around about calling HYP a scam when you clearly didn't even do so much as read the ANN.

So what?  It was forked from TRK.  TRK was a shit coin and the only ones who were holding it were fans of high PoS coins.  HYP was a gift to the niche community of high PoS coins.

And yeah, Presstab and David are at the top of the rich list.  I would much rather have the devs of the coin at the top of the rich list rather than a couple of random whales.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 22, 2014, 11:33:32 AM
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why do u hate hyp so much? i dont get it
I hate all scams. Read the OP again if you still don't understand why people should have a problem with this.

A legit coin would have modified the latest Peercoin source and had a normal launch, and if they had nothing to hide why edit the fork date out afterwards? Kinda important don't you think?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 22, 2014, 12:06:22 PM
Developer has the right to distribute currency (an asset) in any way. If you didn't know about the launch, it's your problem. You have been able to buy HYP almost the same price as TRK for a rather long time after launch. And don't forget that in real world you could be sued for defamation.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Dexpla on October 22, 2014, 12:13:34 PM
Hypnotique there is still time for you to buy some while they are still cheap!  you can also get them for free in the IRC chat.
Now how is that a scam?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: billotronic on October 22, 2014, 12:26:02 PM
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why do u hate hyp so much? i dont get it
I hate all scams. Read the OP again if you still don't understand why people should have a problem with this.

A legit coin would have modified the latest Peercoin source and had a normal launch, and if they had nothing to hide why edit the fork date out afterwards? Kinda important don't you think?


I'm sorry, legit coin? How many coins have you coded again?

The only one hiding anything is your chicken shit ass.



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: btcsnippers on October 22, 2014, 12:34:11 PM
Yes huge scam:
they robbed everyone of all that ICO money, <there was none>
they Stole the Premine , <there was none>
they Ninja launched it, <it was a fork> and discussed well in advance , u did not get your personalized invitation , well i got mine.

what did they take again ? <they gave away a ton of coins(out of their own and some community members pockets) and made the most advanced staking wallet around.>

Yes i really hate when people do that just make something out of nothing and add value .. how dare they.

Also the posts from the devs telling you to sell your house and kids to buy all the HYP u can.
Ow w8 there are no such posts infact there are several by them saying just the opposite.

Posting on a brandnew account your a real hero , let me guess your new to crypto but had to make an account to trash HYP.

Then the only one that supports your view has negative trust , that must be your original account.

U dont like HYP fine dont buy.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: David Latapie on October 22, 2014, 12:36:39 PM
For information: if you notice something factually wrong here, please report it to me. Otherwise, let fudders give us free publicity; it is always appreciated to increase volume, which leads to lesser volatility and wider adoption, which in turn are fundamental for continuing experimenting on a grander scale.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 22, 2014, 12:54:58 PM
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why do u hate hyp so much? i dont get it
I hate all scams. Read the OP again if you still don't understand why people should have a problem with this.

A legit coin would have modified the latest Peercoin source and had a normal launch, and if they had nothing to hide why edit the fork date out afterwards? Kinda important don't you think?


I'm sorry, legit coin? How many coins have you coded again?

The only one hiding anything is your chicken shit ass.



What does my coding have to do with anything? None to answer your question.

I don't even need to ask to know that you're one of the big bagholders that got in on this scam early. Typical...


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 22, 2014, 12:58:42 PM
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why do u hate hyp so much? i dont get it
I hate all scams. Read the OP again if you still don't understand why people should have a problem with this.

A legit coin would have modified the latest Peercoin source and had a normal launch, and if they had nothing to hide why edit the fork date out afterwards? Kinda important don't you think?


I'm sorry, legit coin? How many coins have you coded again?

The only one hiding anything is your chicken shit ass.



What does my coding have to do with anything? None to answer your question.

I don't even need to ask to know that you're one of the big bagholders that got in on this scam early. Typical...

So what will be the next move of this coin, how do you think? At which point will you be able to say with confidence: "Ha, told ya!"?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 22, 2014, 01:06:17 PM
Thank you David for your gracious presence. Doublespeak much?

https://i.imgur.com/su1JN7L.png


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: David Latapie on October 22, 2014, 01:35:00 PM
Thank you David for your gracious presence. Doublespeak much?

https://i.imgur.com/su1JN7L.png
maybe you just read what you wanted to read. I quoted cycoinminer.


Title: Re: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL scam tastic !
Post by: kingpin69 on October 22, 2014, 01:58:48 PM
TruckCoin ? ahhahahha

nice find i had no idea..

no wonder after 1,000 convo's with those spamming bag holders they avoided mentioning that !
not even one fucking time did any of those fucking scummy fucktard scammers mention that..

thanks for the info i will make fucking damn sure people know about this scammy idiot bullshit !
they wouldn't have hid that info from me when i asked about the coin 100 fucking times unless they KNEW it was bad !

HYP tard's you are seriously fucked trust me ;)

LOL this guy!

Why are you even pretending you didn't know it was forked from TRK? I was the one who set you straight in the polo trollbox when you stupidly tried to claim initially that HYP was an IPO coin lol.

Maybe you should take your tinfoil hat off now and then and stop sitting at home all day watching re-runs of the moomins. I hear getting a job is a healthy investment of time rather than spending all your time on here FUDing coins that actually have something going for them, as opposed to JPC <--really though?!?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: ILoveBigBlackCocks on October 22, 2014, 02:01:29 PM
Thank you David for your gracious presence. Doublespeak much?

https://i.imgur.com/su1JN7L.png

OMG!  The sheer arrogance.  A developer making money off his own coin.  How dare he?  Did he not get the memo that only whales, traders, and miners get to make money in crypto?  Developers are our volunteer slave laborers, and if they do not agree to that stipulation, they should rightfully be called out for the scam artists they are.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 22, 2014, 02:44:12 PM
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So what will be the next move of this coin, how do you think? At which point will you be able to say with confidence: "Ha, told ya!"?

That's up to the market to decide. I have no vested interest in this or other high pos coins.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Shrikez on October 22, 2014, 02:46:56 PM
Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 22, 2014, 03:19:11 PM
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So what will be the next move of this coin, how do you think? At which point will you be able to say with confidence: "Ha, told ya!"?

That's up to the market to decide. I have no vested interest in this or other high pos coins.

So you just had a spare time to make some accusations and imperative statements? Got the "market" support of one troll with shitty reputation and feel yourself like The Defender? Who are you trying to fool?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 22, 2014, 04:22:19 PM
Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 22, 2014, 04:51:24 PM
Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.


Think of it as of ICO for those who made something useful for TRK community. It wasn't you, I know. If you would have follow this community, you would have been aware of the fork. And that's all. Call it how do you like. These facts worth nothing. How do you think the developers are motivated to work almost 24/7? Just to please you? Yes, I'm a bagholder and I help this coin to grow and I'm not going to stop. We see this project as the part of the future (it's something you can't understand, because you think with archaic stereotypes, you even didn't read the materials). It's not communism, we are not obliged to inform you about our intentions to make a product. You can buy it after release or not buy, its up to you. These "so-called developers" are people with a serious reputation and great ideals. If you don't know it, it's your fault, because you won't convince anybody. Give me your facts, I want to know what exactly do you call a scam so confidently.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Bansheroom on October 22, 2014, 05:04:22 PM
Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.


Think of it as of ICO for those who made something useful for TRK community. It wasn't you, I know. If you would have follow this community, you would have been aware of the fork. And that's all. Call it how do you like. These facts worth nothing. How do you think the developers are motivated to work almost 24/7? Just to please you? Yes, I'm a bagholder and I help this coin to grow and I'm not going to stop. We see this project as the part of the future (it's something you can't understand, because you think with archaic stereotypes, you even didn't read the materials). It's not communism, we are not obliged to inform you about our intentions to make a product. You can buy it after release or not buy, its up to you. These "so-called developers" are people with a serious reputation and great ideals. If you don't know it, it's your fault, because you won't convince anybody. Give me your facts, I want to know what exactly do you call a scam so confidently.

So you wanna say an only insider-known closed "ICO" is no SCAM? It is. And developers dont have to work 24/7 to fork a coin, add some features and change some parameters.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 22, 2014, 05:16:39 PM
Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.


Think of it as of ICO for those who made something useful for TRK community. It wasn't you, I know. If you would have follow this community, you would have been aware of the fork. And that's all. Call it how do you like. These facts worth nothing. How do you think the developers are motivated to work almost 24/7? Just to please you? Yes, I'm a bagholder and I help this coin to grow and I'm not going to stop. We see this project as the part of the future (it's something you can't understand, because you think with archaic stereotypes, you even didn't read the materials). It's not communism, we are not obliged to inform you about our intentions to make a product. You can buy it after release or not buy, its up to you. These "so-called developers" are people with a serious reputation and great ideals. If you don't know it, it's your fault, because you won't convince anybody. Give me your facts, I want to know what exactly do you call a scam so confidently.

So you wanna say an only insider-known closed "ICO" is no SCAM? It is. And developers dont have to work 24/7 to fork a coin, add some features and change some parameters.

I have already said what I wanted to say. And developers don't only "add some features". Learn more about HYP.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: billotronic on October 22, 2014, 05:27:52 PM
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why do u hate hyp so much? i dont get it
I hate all scams. Read the OP again if you still don't understand why people should have a problem with this.

A legit coin would have modified the latest Peercoin source and had a normal launch, and if they had nothing to hide why edit the fork date out afterwards? Kinda important don't you think?


I'm sorry, legit coin? How many coins have you coded again?

The only one hiding anything is your chicken shit ass.



What does my coding have to do with anything? None to answer your question.

I don't even need to ask to know that you're one of the big bagholders that got in on this scam early. Typical...

Very relevant because you have no idea what it takes to modify a code base.

Bagholder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagholder#cite_note-1) : In U.S. financial slang, a bagholder is a shareholder left holding shares of worthless stocks.

Scam (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scam) :
noun
1.
a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.
verb (used with object), scammed, scamming.
2.
to cheat or defraud with a scam.

Let me rewrite that for you so you do not look so ignorant:

"I already know from my extensive time in the ##hyperstake chan that you are an early joiner of the hyperstake experiment and also one of the most generous people with your coins because of it."

There, that is better

Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.


Oh boy. Now I know you can use the internet or else you wouldn't be on these forums, so in the future, please lookup the meaning of the words you are misusing.

I'm thinking that the issue here is no one sent you a memo about it... or you really are that ignorant about the things you are talking about. So come here, sit on my lap and let me tell you a story about cryptocoins...

TRK for the sake of argument, officially died on July 5th (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637785.msg7695108#msg7695108) with a post from the original TRK dev telling us what we already knew, he didn't have the time for TRK.

THE VERY NEXT DAY and surprise, the very next post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637785.msg7695775#msg7695775) is from presstab announcing his plans to fork.

At this juncture in time TRK was next to valueless and had no future. HyperStake at least offered an opportunity to take those valueless coins and see if presstabs and davids economic experiment would crash and burn or succeed. It was not a hard decision to make for many trk holders. The beginning was rough. Between the buggy code and the lack of mature coins to ensure a smooth blockchain, those who hung on were in for an interesting experience to say the least. Fast forward to today and 197 commits latter, and HyperStake is not only a very fun and welcoming community to be a part of, but also raising the bar for future PoS coins.

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I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

Then it might be best if you stopped talking about things you do not comprehend. Your personal attacks on credibility against 'these so-called developers' again reflects on your ignorance of coin project creation and managing and would do yourself a grand service to shy away from such remarks in your future postings.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: gnargnar on October 22, 2014, 05:32:47 PM
Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.


 :o ???  why is that a problem and a scam that the devs of this coin are also bagholders ( aka the top ones on the rich list) ??? i don't understand where you go with that. and i'm not even holding much or showing in that top rich list for that coin.

I mean, i prefer to know that those who :

- develop the coin features;
- create new opportunities;
- help adoption of the coin;
- help the community;
- answer all questions;
- support those in the community that want to go one step above to also develop tools and stuff around this coin.

 ...have a big sum of the coins to show they are fully behind it, no? hell, HYP even have a Rich List with names besides the top owners, so you know what they have and what moves they make.

I think this whole attack is retarded. I kinda understand why you created a new nickname to post this, cuz it doesn't make any sense and is a shame

 


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 22, 2014, 06:04:50 PM
Billotronic, how long did it take you to write all that? I guess if an anonymous posting on a Bitcoin internet forum is enough to get you this riled up, maybe there's more here than you're willing to admit.

Thanks for all the personal attacks as well, really goes a long way in showing your true colors.

You might be okay with noobs buying this shitcoin for 7000 or 8000 sats each when the developers and their tightly knit circle jerk buddies scammed their way into millions of free coin. I'm not.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 22, 2014, 06:15:18 PM
Just read the first version of the OP, it isn't that complicated.

Quote
After buying into TruckCoin and seeing the diminishing exchange rate because of lack of dev support, we decided to take things into our own hands.

Yes we were TRK bagholders... I thought that was obvious to everyone? Why would we spend all of the time to fork a coin that we are very minimal holders of? It just wouldn't make much sense.

Concerning the quick forking, sure we could have put out a more advanced notice. I think looking at it from the point of view of someone who wasn't around back then for all of the irc chats, it might be hard to understand. HYP was meant to be a small fun crypto, it was mostly just made for the high PoS community to replace TEK with a better functioning coin. I was working on TEK code for a few months, had some disagreements about the coin and went my own way. I was very anxious to start a new coin to my own specifications.

I take full responsibility for not giving advanced enough notice.  For example, even David was a bit confused about how the fork was going to play out, and did suggest longer grace period.
Depends on how long will the grace period be (grace period: time between availability of the HYP wallet and actual forking). I can't tell you the time now. It won't be weeks, that's for sure.

And via PM from David:
Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).

No grace.
What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.


But I was determined to get HYP going, and to have a coin that would finally be the economic characteristics I desired, the QT base that I could build an advanced coin control around, etc. I WANTED HYP NOW!!!!  But decided that I would go with the minimal grace period.

Honestly looking back, if I knew HYP would have this many users I would have given a bigger grace period. But lets be honest... I already had my TRK, it wouldn't have changed the quantity I held for any reason. Maybe others could have grabbed more. And at the time I was something like the 8th largest wallet when we forked, I continued to buy more after we got listed on coin-swap, so yes I continued to put my own skin in the game. I know David has as well.

Is this a scam? Definitely not, or else why the hell would I have all of these instead of cashing out aggressively? (and also a side point, the reason I hold so much is so that I don't have to be paranoid of someone trying to gain enough coin weight to cause problems with the coin).

Should David have any responsibility for the lack of grace time, absolutely not. Feel free to blame my impatience, excitement, anxiousness, etc. But honestly I would have the same quantity of coins either way, I guess the only person that missed out is you the oh so mysterious noob account.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Kushedout on October 22, 2014, 06:31:29 PM
This whole thread is a joke, why are you guys feeding this troll.

Not sure why he even started this thread, maybe cheap shares from FUD. Everything he mentions is false.

Those who are interested in what this coin, dev and the community has to offer, simply join ##Hyperstake and stop reading every nonsense a troll has to post.   (can't believe I wasted my time and fed the troll by replying)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Ense04 on October 22, 2014, 06:39:28 PM
Agreed. Hypnotique comes accross as a whiny, pathetic tool. This thread is a waste of time.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: prints on October 22, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
I'm with HyperStake

 8)


Title: Re: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL scam tastic !
Post by: Spoetnik on October 22, 2014, 07:03:02 PM
TruckCoin ? ahhahahha

nice find i had no idea..

no wonder after 1,000 convo's with those spamming bag holders they avoided mentioning that !
not even one fucking time did any of those fucking scummy fucktard scammers mention that..

thanks for the info i will make fucking damn sure people know about this scammy idiot bullshit !
they wouldn't have hid that info from me when i asked about the coin 100 fucking times unless they KNEW it was bad !

HYP tard's you are seriously fucked trust me ;)

LOL this guy!

Why are you even pretending you didn't know it was forked from TRK? I was the one who set you straight in the polo trollbox when you stupidly tried to claim initially that HYP was an IPO coin lol.

Maybe you should take your tinfoil hat off now and then and stop sitting at home all day watching re-runs of the moomins. I hear getting a job is a healthy investment of time rather than spending all your time on here FUDing coins that actually have something going for them, as opposed to JPC <--really though?!?

WRONG and i talked to you last night again on the Box...
eat shit .
your trying to bad mouth me and twist shit around to play damage control.

i said it was an IP0 maybe 3 or 4 days ago and you said it's not..
i said well that is what the guys on the chat box said when i asked specifically..
then you said and i quote.. "it's a fork"
you mentioned nothing in the slightest about TruckCoin or any other info at all but EXACTLY what i quoted above and not 1 word more !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and then i said well was it mined on launch ?
you sat there and hide from me pussy.. ignoring me !
as did the dev and all the cheerleaders
AGAIN !
I said then well if it was not "mined" on launch then close enough..
i consider any coin that is NOT mined on launch to be an IPO coin of sorts no matter what you want to call them.

anyone with half a brain will believe me.. you guys about 30 times avoided answering my questions when i asked about it.
every effort was made to hide the info the OP posted and you guys know it so cut the fucking crap PERIOD.

you got some nerve brat  :D
lying sack of shit..


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 22, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
Billotronic, how long did it take you to write all that? I guess if an anonymous posting on a Bitcoin internet forum is enough to get you this riled up, maybe there's more here than you're willing to admit.

Thanks for all the personal attacks as well, really goes a long way in showing your true colors.

You might be okay with noobs buying this shitcoin for 7000 or 8000 sats each when the developers and their tightly knit circle jerk buddies scammed their way into millions of free coin. I'm not.

THIS !

and thank you for posting because it's only fair new users are aware of the info you posted.
admit it guys you don't think it's important info ?

who ever you are OP i got your back and these little pricks can suck a fucking dick.
they can stfu and go back to defending Noble Coin or Super Coin or something guess who made this fucking scam coins ?

Obvious scammers are obvious .


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: gnargnar on October 22, 2014, 07:27:49 PM
Billotronic, how long did it take you to write all that? I guess if an anonymous posting on a Bitcoin internet forum is enough to get you this riled up, maybe there's more here than you're willing to admit.

Thanks for all the personal attacks as well, really goes a long way in showing your true colors.

You might be okay with noobs buying this shitcoin for 7000 or 8000 sats each when the developers and their tightly knit circle jerk buddies scammed their way into millions of free coin. I'm not.

THIS !

and thank you for posting because it's only fair new users are aware of the info you posted.
admit it guys you don't think it's important info ?

who ever you are OP i got your back and these little pricks can suck a fucking dick.
they can stfu and go back to defending Noble Coin or Super Coin or something guess who made this fucking scam coins ?

Obvious scammers are obvious .

hey! that would be very fun if you both could be shown as Online at the same time, no?

Spoetnik, can you please use another computer or a vm to log in as your brand new Hypnotique bct account?

Obvious FUDers are obvious .


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 22, 2014, 07:30:48 PM
This guy is inadequate. There should be a mechanism at Bitcointalk to deal with such offenders. 


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Real_Unhooked on October 22, 2014, 07:34:23 PM


I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.

iantunc, another bagholder I assume? I realize you, the rest of the bagholders along with these so-called developers wish the facts would go away (not accusations, facts. ) but unfortunately for you that's not going to happen. It's everyone's responsibility to out scammers whenever possible.


HYP was created mainly as an experiment for TRK holders since the original TRK dev bailed due to personal reasons. Everyone in the TRK community was aware of HYP. Also about your concern of devs hoarding TRK before the fork. TRK was never an "expensive" coin to be bought. Even now the volume is very low.

The price of HYP was also never very high until it hit Polo. That too the price increase is a recent development of new people wanting to get into HYP. So all your comments have no base.


Title: Everyone pipe down.. i am the smart one here !
Post by: Spoetnik on October 22, 2014, 08:18:17 PM
You all have my word guaranteed 100% i have no clue who the OP is !
But i DID find his info he posted to be a revelation and i think it's pertinent info for all potential users or existing users of HYP.
Take it as you will..
Me ? i took it badly and it seems to me *most did also.. which why the price was decimated on Poloniex.
So if everyone knew and it did not matter then why did the price tank with clear cases of dumping ? explain that to me ?

Did the OP post false information ?
Seems to me he was bringing to light info that some HYP fanboys / devs etc were making a point of avoiding.

I often just ask devs /supporters on chat boxs about their coin for info INSTEAD of reading an ANN topic
and they had soooo many chances to bring up what the OP said but they AVOIDED mentioning any of it !

This is NOT my fault personally (the recent HYP drama / controversy)
and the fact i asked questions about it does not make me a Troll or mean i deserve to be trolled while mods watch !
edit: seems like someone seen me ask and then went digging...

I ask questions about every coin i ever seen on every chat box on every exchange since i started this and SO DO ALL OF YOU !

So cut the crap and gimme a break and quit trying to twist shit around to hide your dirty laundry and make me out to be the bad guy here..
I didn't make the damn coin and i was not a big bag holder who dumped on the little guys last night and today.. maybe be mad at them HYP guys ?

ALSO.. i have had no contact with the OP publicly or privately anywhere on the internet.. we have not talked once !

edit:
and the info the OP posted is bad.. REALLY BAD !


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 22, 2014, 08:20:14 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DVXLyuD.png::)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Deepanal on October 22, 2014, 08:25:53 PM

I call bs


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 22, 2014, 08:38:00 PM
Don't worry it was just a sarcastic conversation on the troll box.


95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:56:14 UTC   presstab at 10K you gonna dump your million ?

109 presstab
2014-10-13 19:56:40 UTC   waxo, once it is 1 USD per coin i will sell my million

95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:56:52 UTC   presstab, ahahaha :)

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 19:58:32 UTC   presstab, if it hits 1 USD id be very happy

95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:58:54 UTC   even 0.10 everyone is happy

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 19:59:58 UTC   waxo, really hoping for .25 cent

109 presstab
2014-10-13 20:00:27 UTC   bitmaster, 25 cents would be great

32 locohammerhead
2014-10-13 20:00:55 UTC   bitmaster if HYP hits 1 USD im going to be throwing a party

7 CrazyLoaf
2014-10-13 20:01:00 UTC   there's no reason to ever sell all your HYP

109 presstab
2014-10-13 20:01:40 UTC   if HYP hits 1 USD I will fly the trollboxers out to my penthouse and let them all drive me lambo

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 20:02:07 UTC   presstab, so much Yes!

6 Kingdiem1019
2014-10-13 20:02:24 UTC   presstab, im holding you to that...

32 locohammerhead
2014-10-13 20:04:04 UTC   If hyp hits 1 USD I im taking all my friends (A huge 2 people) on an epic night full of strip clubs, good food, beer and any thing else anybody could think o

7 mrhangjas5
2014-10-13 20:06:26 UTC   If hyp hits 1 dollar i buy my own house and some land to be self sufficient with my own food and stuff.



Title: facts..
Post by: Spoetnik on October 22, 2014, 08:39:12 PM
I want to add also that i think this type of topic is fair game.

I am the decider criticizer !
i myself have heavily criticized the coins i still support !
such as Jackpotcoin and Max coin.
So i am not picking on anyone ever i just want all info to base my trades on.
If anyone has valid criticism for a coin then a discussion forum or chat box is the perfect place to lay it all on the table and hash it out.
come to your own conclusions obviously ;)

FUD'ing myself in the mirror ?
so since i have bashed JPC and MAX am i FUD'ing and Trolling on my own coins i support ?
don't believe me take Max coin for example and go read the walls of text i posted about it criticizing it and then how i said i still support it !
and the same damn thing with JPC where i have said negative things about it a dozen times.
i have done the same on ANY other coin i was invested in.. facts are facts and should not be swept under the rug !

like i criticized JPC's premine etc many times early on and later and occasionally since..
and why ? well part of the reason is a reminder to guys out there that we're watching  8)
for example i bitched out the JPC dev for his faucet running dry for ages and i said guys isn't that why you got a fat premine..

Spoetnik is pure evil ?
People in crypto can consider me a an evil Troll who picks on coins for no reason but i consider myself objective
standing in the middle not for or against any coin.. i want as much info as possible good or bad and so should you all to make informed educated trades with.

the whole i show up somewhere and i deserve to be treated like dog shit because the, i am a Troll reputation routine is unfair bullshit !
and don't forget there is a lot of guys with a grudge in this scene pissed right off about past scam coins they made and got exposed over
..they are still here lurking around trying to throw stones at guys (who helped expose them) ..and of course pumping more NEW coins out  ::)

edit: i also am not the only one who criticizes coins  ::)


Title: Re: facts..
Post by: Deepanal on October 22, 2014, 08:43:10 PM
I want to add also that i think this type of topic is fair game.

I am the decider criticizer !
i myself have heavily criticized the coin i still support !
such as Jackpotcoin and Max coin.
So i am not picking on anyone ever i just want all info to base my trades on.
If anyone has valid criticism for a coin then a discussion forum or chat box is the perfect place to lay it all on the table and hash it out.
come to your own conclusions obviously ;)

FUD'ing myself in the mirror ?
so since i have bashed JPC and MAX am i FUD'ing and Trolling on my own coins i support ?
don't believe me take Max coin for example and go read the walls of text i posted about it criticizing it and then how i said i still support it !!!
and the same damn thing with JPC where i have said negative things about it a dozen times.
i have done the same on ANY other coin i was invested in.. facts are facts and should not be swept under the rug !

like i criticized JPC's premine etc many times early on and later and occasionally since..
and why ? well part of the reason is a reminder to guys out there that we're watching  8)
for example i bitched out the JPC dev for his faucet running dry for ages and i said guys isn't that why you got a fat premine..

Spoetnik is pure evil ?
People in crypto can consider me a an evil Troll who picks on coins for no reason but i consider myself objective
standing in the middle not for or against any coin.. i want as much info as possible good or bad and so should you all to make informed educated trades with.

the whole i show up somewhere and i deserve to be treated like dog shit because the, i am a Troll reputation routine is unfair bullshit !
and don't forget there is a lot of guys with a grudge in this scene pissed right off about past scam coins they made and got exposed over
..they are still here lurking around trying to throw stones at guys (who helped expose them) ..and of course pumping more NEW coins out  ::)

Poor guy. Sorry we hurt your feelings.


Title: Re: facts..
Post by: Spoetnik on October 22, 2014, 08:48:49 PM
Poor guy. Sorry we hurt your feelings.

You know why i dominate in the game of Chess ?
It's called playing the most appropriate move when it's your turn.
you whack my knee cap my leg comes up ;)

and presstab i believe you i think the guy is getting a bit carried way with some of the quotes
i advise people to take them with a grain of salt like i am..
i don't know if they are true or taken out of context or what and fair is fair !

i mean it too i am not saying that to play games.. it's not fair to basically make up nasty shit to bash guys.

edit:
lemme put it this way..

a bank is robbed.

then the robber comes around the corner past you dropping a bag of money at your feet.
it looks BAD !!!!! ..when the cop comes around and see's you !
should this be ignored ?
no !
it's facts !!! ..and this is what we have in crypto ALL THE TIME !
things can look really bad but who knows ?
either way the info is valid and should presented for consumption.

Saying like i did earlier it looks REALLY BAD is just that and it sure as hell LOOKS like a scam to me !
is it ? i will never know..

context.. if something looks REALLY bad in this scene it probably is.... look around lol


Title: Re: facts..
Post by: iantunc on October 22, 2014, 08:51:15 PM
I want to add also that i think this type of topic is fair game.

I am the decider criticizer !
i myself have heavily criticized the coin i still support !
such as Jackpotcoin and Max coin.
So i am not picking on anyone ever i just want all info to base my trades on.
If anyone has valid criticism for a coin then a discussion forum or chat box is the perfect place to lay it all on the table and hash it out.
come to your own conclusions obviously ;)

FUD'ing myself in the mirror ?
so since i have bashed JPC and MAX am i FUD'ing and Trolling on my own coins i support ?
don't believe me take Max coin for example and go read the walls of text i posted about it criticizing it and then how i said i still support it !!!
and the same damn thing with JPC where i have said negative things about it a dozen times.
i have done the same on ANY other coin i was invested in.. facts are facts and should not be swept under the rug !

like i criticized JPC's premine etc many times early on and later and occasionally since..
and why ? well part of the reason is a reminder to guys out there that we're watching  8)
for example i bitched out the JPC dev for his faucet running dry for ages and i said guys isn't that why you got a fat premine..

Spoetnik is pure evil ?
People in crypto can consider me a an evil Troll who picks on coins for no reason but i consider myself objective
standing in the middle not for or against any coin.. i want as much info as possible good or bad and so should you all to make informed educated trades with.

the whole i show up somewhere and i deserve to be treated like dog shit because the, i am a Troll reputation routine is unfair bullshit !
and don't forget there is a lot of guys with a grudge in this scene pissed right off about past scam coins they made and got exposed over
..they are still here lurking around trying to throw stones at guys (who helped expose them) ..and of course pumping more NEW coins out  ::)

I can understand your position. But you claim in your signature that a scam is exposed. That is not standing in the middle. That are ungrounded accusations.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 22, 2014, 10:35:33 PM
iantunc, bottom line is if these guys were honest they wouldn't try to bury information like they've done by editing out the fork date in the ANN.. This kind of behaviour screams scam and if you can't hear it, it's because you don't want to listen.

presstab's response in this thread pretty much amounts to "oops, coulda woulda shoulda.. didn't know HYP would be so big" riiight.. He's the cliche super friendly leader in the trollbox, tipping people for the stupidest reasons etc. This is again typical scam behavior. Spend some time in the polo box and see how quick his attitude gets ugly when anyone questions his beloved HyperScam, and watch as the henchmen David & Co. begin to appear in the box to defend their shitcoin.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: locohammerhead on October 22, 2014, 11:27:42 PM
Don't worry it was just a sarcastic conversation on the troll box.


95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:56:14 UTC   presstab at 10K you gonna dump your million ?

109 presstab
2014-10-13 19:56:40 UTC   waxo, once it is 1 USD per coin i will sell my million

95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:56:52 UTC   presstab, ahahaha :)

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 19:58:32 UTC   presstab, if it hits 1 USD id be very happy

95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:58:54 UTC   even 0.10 everyone is happy

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 19:59:58 UTC   waxo, really hoping for .25 cent

109 presstab
2014-10-13 20:00:27 UTC   bitmaster, 25 cents would be great

32 locohammerhead
2014-10-13 20:00:55 UTC   bitmaster if HYP hits 1 USD im going to be throwing a party

7 CrazyLoaf
2014-10-13 20:01:00 UTC   there's no reason to ever sell all your HYP

109 presstab
2014-10-13 20:01:40 UTC   if HYP hits 1 USD I will fly the trollboxers out to my penthouse and let them all drive me lambo

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 20:02:07 UTC   presstab, so much Yes!

6 Kingdiem1019
2014-10-13 20:02:24 UTC   presstab, im holding you to that...

32 locohammerhead
2014-10-13 20:04:04 UTC   If hyp hits 1 USD I im taking all my friends (A huge 2 people) on an epic night full of strip clubs, good food, beer and any thing else anybody could think o

7 mrhangjas5
2014-10-13 20:06:26 UTC   If hyp hits 1 dollar i buy my own house and some land to be self sufficient with my own food and stuff.



impressive you still have that convo haha


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 22, 2014, 11:31:26 PM
I watch TEKs & wanted to buy. waited & waited for price coming down. Then price crash and i think i should buy. Then look at thread & lot of problems with wallet and biomek the dev did not fix. I have hypcoin now instead. Devs always fix problem  :-\

You think scam ---- i think good.

The technology side is good; the wallet is excellent.

It's the initial distribution and deception that make this a scam. A shame, really.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 22, 2014, 11:38:17 PM
iantunc, bottom line is if these guys were honest they wouldn't try to bury information like they've done by editing out the fork date in the ANN.. This kind of behaviour screams scam and if you can't hear it, it's because you don't want to listen.

presstab's response in this thread pretty much amounts to "oops, coulda woulda shoulda.. didn't know HYP would be so big" riiight.. He's the cliche super friendly leader in the trollbox, tipping people for the stupidest reasons etc. This is again typical scam behavior. Spend some time in the polo box and see how quickly his attitude becomes ugly when anyone questions his beloved HyperScam, and watch as the henchmen David & Co. begin to appear in the box to defend their shitcoin.

I wish I could just get you to read the OP that you seem to know so much about. You can actually read the forking taking place.... and how it took longer than expected (thus the change in time).  And also I am sorry if I am too friendly and have too much fun with the friends I have made in crypto... ??? lol this is getting better by the moment buddy.


Update for everyone... The mature block I was saving to stake the forked block with... acidentally staked a few blocks before the fork time - just our luck.

I have a block that is less stake weight that is competing with the network to stake and once it gets the stake it should fork it with the new value.  Feel free to also try to get the first forked block. You can use my version of the .exe - right now it still uses the truckcoin appdata directory, so back it up first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please beware this is just a temporary version of the wallet.

Use at your own risk - and startup with the switch -connect=192.241.233.70

REMOVED

How do we know when the coin has forked? And do we have an ETA on a complied Windows wallet? I do not know how to do that stuff myself.

Right now they are both still the same coin. I had a block ready to stake right away but I accidentally let it stake right before the switch in the code. So now I have to wait for the next stake.

It could take an hour or it could take a day. So just be patient for now and check back in a bit. I have to be AFK for a few hours and will check back to see if it finally stakes.

Anyone else with mature blocks can attempt to fork with the new wallet as well.

With the most recent commit you will need to connect to the node I listed above in order to get any connections. We are waiting at block 31716 until we generate our own HYP block 31717. We have mature blocks be hashed, not sure how long it will take. We might even have to do some updates to the code to get it to take the updates easier.

The TRK is still moving so if you are passed block 31716 you are on TRK.

All other builds are now somewhat obsolete as they aren't able to connect to the update client unless rebuilt.  So just sit back and relax and check back in a day.  You aren't missing out on any action trust me.


So should we hold off selling our TRK coins for now or can we sell them if we want (have wallet.dat file saved)?

Hold you TRK until we have the first block.

Does this mean people could still buy TRK and get HYP?

Well right now we are on block 31716 for HYP and TRK is passed that.  So right now anything on the TRK chain is already passed that block and won't carry over.  We are trying to fork from this block, but I am not going to promise anything.

Alright the moment we have all been waiting for!! Block 31781 is a HYP block, its own chain will be maintained from here. And as you can see I hit the max subsidy!!  It is working folks.  The wallet still sucks! I know this and will roll out some changes on it and sort out the datadir issue. Enjoy HyperStakers!!


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 22, 2014, 11:47:29 PM
Don't worry it was just a sarcastic conversation on the troll box.


95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:56:14 UTC   presstab at 10K you gonna dump your million ?

109 presstab
2014-10-13 19:56:40 UTC   waxo, once it is 1 USD per coin i will sell my million

95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:56:52 UTC   presstab, ahahaha :)

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 19:58:32 UTC   presstab, if it hits 1 USD id be very happy

95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:58:54 UTC   even 0.10 everyone is happy

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 19:59:58 UTC   waxo, really hoping for .25 cent

109 presstab
2014-10-13 20:00:27 UTC   bitmaster, 25 cents would be great

32 locohammerhead
2014-10-13 20:00:55 UTC   bitmaster if HYP hits 1 USD im going to be throwing a party

7 CrazyLoaf
2014-10-13 20:01:00 UTC   there's no reason to ever sell all your HYP

109 presstab
2014-10-13 20:01:40 UTC   if HYP hits 1 USD I will fly the trollboxers out to my penthouse and let them all drive me lambo

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 20:02:07 UTC   presstab, so much Yes!

6 Kingdiem1019
2014-10-13 20:02:24 UTC   presstab, im holding you to that...

32 locohammerhead
2014-10-13 20:04:04 UTC   If hyp hits 1 USD I im taking all my friends (A huge 2 people) on an epic night full of strip clubs, good food, beer and any thing else anybody could think o

7 mrhangjas5
2014-10-13 20:06:26 UTC   If hyp hits 1 dollar i buy my own house and some land to be self sufficient with my own food and stuff.



impressive you still have that convo haha

polonibox.com :)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: locohammerhead on October 23, 2014, 12:33:07 AM
Don't worry it was just a sarcastic conversation on the troll box.


95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:56:14 UTC   presstab at 10K you gonna dump your million ?

109 presstab
2014-10-13 19:56:40 UTC   waxo, once it is 1 USD per coin i will sell my million

95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:56:52 UTC   presstab, ahahaha :)

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 19:58:32 UTC   presstab, if it hits 1 USD id be very happy

95 waxo
2014-10-13 19:58:54 UTC   even 0.10 everyone is happy

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 19:59:58 UTC   waxo, really hoping for .25 cent

109 presstab
2014-10-13 20:00:27 UTC   bitmaster, 25 cents would be great

32 locohammerhead
2014-10-13 20:00:55 UTC   bitmaster if HYP hits 1 USD im going to be throwing a party

7 CrazyLoaf
2014-10-13 20:01:00 UTC   there's no reason to ever sell all your HYP

109 presstab
2014-10-13 20:01:40 UTC   if HYP hits 1 USD I will fly the trollboxers out to my penthouse and let them all drive me lambo

75 bitmaster
2014-10-13 20:02:07 UTC   presstab, so much Yes!

6 Kingdiem1019
2014-10-13 20:02:24 UTC   presstab, im holding you to that...

32 locohammerhead
2014-10-13 20:04:04 UTC   If hyp hits 1 USD I im taking all my friends (A huge 2 people) on an epic night full of strip clubs, good food, beer and any thing else anybody could think o

7 mrhangjas5
2014-10-13 20:06:26 UTC   If hyp hits 1 dollar i buy my own house and some land to be self sufficient with my own food and stuff.



impressive you still have that convo haha

polonibox.com :)

haha that's awesome. 


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: EyesWideOpen on October 23, 2014, 01:15:22 AM
For information: if you notice something factually wrong here, please report it to me. Otherwise, let fudders give us free publicity; it is always appreciated to increase volume, which leads to lesser volatility and wider adoption, which in turn are fundamental for continuing experimenting on a grander scale.

David, when has any of your coins gained "wider adoption"?
How many coins have you had a hand in? Eleven? Does that sound about right?
All your coins are just made for exchanges. Everyone knows this, even your bagholders know this.
You're a cloner. That's it. You make money for yourself and your pals at the expense of the trusting, voiceless majority.
You're part of the disease that is holding back crypto.

No matter how many times you proclaim how important you are in crypto, no matter how many times you post links of your simple-minded comments to Polo's trollbox trying to impress some noob, people know who you are, David.

I know for a fact that even some members of the Monero team are embarrassed to be associated with you, David.

Yes, I'm a bagholder and I help this coin to grow and I'm not going to stop. We see this project as the part of the future (it's something you can't understand, because you think with archaic stereotypes, you even didn't read the materials).

Grow where? What future?
You are either a bagholder who hasn't realized his profit or just plain delusional.
Hyperstake isn't going anywhere. Its developers and cronies made over a 1000% in profit based on a simple fork.
When people buy Hyperstake, they are just giving David, you and other bagholders pure profit.
Which credible merchant will be crazy enough to use this coin as a payment option?
Which credible investor will be crazy enough to invest in a coin with a shady dev with a bagful of other coins around his belt?
If crypto is regulated like stocks, David and the lot of you will be rotting in jail by now.




Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 23, 2014, 04:50:34 AM
iantunc, bottom line is if these guys were honest they wouldn't try to bury information like they've done by editing out the fork date in the ANN.. This kind of behaviour screams scam and if you can't hear it, it's because you don't want to listen.

presstab's response in this thread pretty much amounts to "oops, coulda woulda shoulda.. didn't know HYP would be so big" riiight.. He's the cliche super friendly leader in the trollbox, tipping people for the stupidest reasons etc. This is again typical scam behavior. Spend some time in the polo box and see how quick his attitude gets ugly when anyone questions his beloved HyperScam, and watch as the henchmen David & Co. begin to appear in the box to defend their shitcoin.

A scam is someones intended action(s) or lack of action(s) that leads to money loss of another person(s) in the interests of a scammer. Did you lose money from some actions? Can you prove it? Can you prove intended actions? Can you prove a malicious interest (stop repeating about unfair distribution, it's ridiculous). This kind of behavior tells everyone that you just want to insult this coin, finding any possible reason.  


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 23, 2014, 04:57:51 AM
For information: if you notice something factually wrong here, please report it to me. Otherwise, let fudders give us free publicity; it is always appreciated to increase volume, which leads to lesser volatility and wider adoption, which in turn are fundamental for continuing experimenting on a grander scale.

David, when has any of your coins gained "wider adoption"?
How many coins have you had a hand in? Eleven? Does that sound about right?
All your coins are just made for exchanges. Everyone knows this, even your bagholders know this.
You're a cloner. That's it. You make money for yourself and your pals at the expense of the trusting, voiceless majority.
You're part of the disease that is holding back crypto.

No matter how many times you proclaim how important you are in crypto, no matter how many times you post links of your simple-minded comments to Polo's trollbox trying to impress some noob, people know who you are, David.

I know for a fact that even some members of the Monero team are embarrassed to be associated with you, David.

Yes, I'm a bagholder and I help this coin to grow and I'm not going to stop. We see this project as the part of the future (it's something you can't understand, because you think with archaic stereotypes, you even didn't read the materials).

Grow where? What future?
You are either a bagholder who hasn't realized his profit or just plain delusional.
Hyperstake isn't going anywhere. Its developers and cronies made over a 1000% in profit based on a simple fork.
When people buy Hyperstake, they are just giving David, you and other bagholders pure profit.
Which credible merchant will be crazy enough to use this coin as a payment option?
Which credible investor will be crazy enough to invest in a coin with a shady dev with a bagful of other coins around his belt?
If crypto is regulated like stocks, David and the lot of you will be rotting in jail by now.




This took an unexpected twist. I am unaware of David's other conquests...


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: HunterS on October 23, 2014, 05:04:56 AM
i think some missed out and is alittle upset. ;D


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 23, 2014, 05:14:12 AM
Yes, I'm a bagholder and I help this coin to grow and I'm not going to stop. We see this project as the part of the future (it's something you can't understand, because you think with archaic stereotypes, you even didn't read the materials).

Grow where? What future?
You are either a bagholder who hasn't realized his profit or just plain delusional.
Hyperstake isn't going anywhere. Its developers and cronies made over a 1000% in profit based on a simple fork.
When people buy Hyperstake, they are just giving David, you and other bagholders pure profit.
Which credible merchant will be crazy enough to use this coin as a payment option?
Which credible investor will be crazy enough to invest in a coin with a shady dev with a bagful of other coins around his belt?
If crypto is regulated like stocks, David and the lot of you will be rotting in jail by now.

It's the new word in cryptocurrency emission. It will replace ecologically unfriendly PoW mining with PoS mining, it will replace $10k miners that get outdated in 2 months. I won't go deep in details, I see no reasons to open your wide open eyes. It's you going anywhere, we are inventors. No one of us makes 1000% profits, may be except of some allowance.
I won't open you our plans about merchants. It's obvious that you are a rival.
People like you make devs to be shady.
Crypto isn't regulated like stocks, it's commodity in US, like matchboxes. If you don't like our matchboxes, don't buy them. You are also aware of risks of buying it. There are also no guarantees, that you won't have loss from this purchase. Don't forget about defamation.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Shrikez on October 23, 2014, 05:35:26 AM
Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.


Thanks for answering but that much was obvious. I just don't really see how this qualifies as a scam. Get real. There are real scammers here, real criminals. Make yourself useful and try to find them instead of going all hysterical on some not-so-important coin, no offense.

Same goes for that Canadian clown.

Anyway sorry I wasted your time (and mine)



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: cycoinminer on October 23, 2014, 06:24:59 AM
Thank you David for your gracious presence. Doublespeak much?

https://i.imgur.com/su1JN7L.png
maybe you just read what you wanted to read. I quoted cycoinminer.

haha - my quotes are becoming famous now eh?

David was just quoting what I wrote, just in a slightly different way I see..... I was writing my gains in fiat, but in all fairness I've sold next to nothing of my interest anyway.

Personally, I got into HYP because I saw the ANN on HYP early on - at the time I was doing a LOT of reading of the threads, and also I'd seen David & Presstab's work before and was impressed by their maturity and development skills.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637785.msg7697257#msg7697257 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637785.msg7697257#msg7697257)

This gives you an idea how early I got into HYP.

There was NEVER any hiding the fact where HYP came from. Ever. Just because it wasn't mentioned 24/7, doesn't mean it wasn't there, although the early days it was discussed a lot.... people were making sure they had their TRK in their own wallets before the fork - I remember it well.

Like every coin, there's going to be winners, and losers. It's all a matter of timing, when you choose to invest, on what grounds you make those decisions, etc etc..... I've bought some total crap before I put a little bit of money into HYP.
Has it been my best investment to date? Definitely.
Can I retire from it? No.

TruckCoin ? ahhahahha
nice find i had no idea..

This is just a classic example of not doing your own research. Plain and simple. Oh well......


Title: Facts with Spoetnik !
Post by: Spoetnik on October 23, 2014, 07:10:42 AM
Quote
This took an unexpected twist. I am unaware of David's other conquests...

i was saying this before and it's obvious regardless if you pin down EXACTLY which coin name(s) is his.. it don't matter.
this is called deception.
for every new clone/fork (change it just enough to call it a fork) he will change his name/alias and start the whole hype and dump process all over again.
and it's funny like i said in detail on another topic is he has said word for word what Shakezulu or the guys who supposedly have taken over ALL of that guys coins
are speaking the same way saying the same excuse(s) word for word.. such as He is experimenting and doing it for fun..
in shakezuklu's coin cloning tutorial he said he does it for "fun and profit" just like you know who..

if there is a wolf eating your sheep every night do you care if it's the same exact one as the last time your sheep got eaten ?
their whole game is to lure people into the you can't figure out who i am crap (or link them to past scam-coins) to cause diversions and deflect claims against them.
we know though.. regardless of the massive amounts of deception.. and leading people on by leaving out info on purpose etc..

so which mass cloner is he ? and does it really matter ?
well it doesn't for me because it's shit i doubt i would buy into..

but new guys may want to know though.. they may actually believe the portrayal of a legit coin "dev" who just made his first coin.
they may not say it but they lead people to believe a lot bullshit.. leading around gullible bag holders who want a profit. (who do not want the truth)
and i say would ALL of these bag holders still invest if they knew the guy had been behind 12 other clones ? many of which scams.. (more like 120 actually)

you guys realize if your caught scamming here they will post the next coin they have prepared right ?
and leave your ass's high and dry holding the bag.. cough cough Memory Coin by FreeTrade / Bitshares / PTS guy and many more  ::)
then sometimes to add insult to injury they will do what FreeTrade did and officially declare the coin dead... and end the coin
then.. buy up cheap coins then re-launch it way later and lure in guys in all over again then dump it all and kill the coin again
and YES he actually fucking did that and NONE of you cared and kissed his ass while he did it too ! ..be ashamed guys, that is pathetic.

I was told last year before OCT-2013 by one guy he had 10 coins complete and ready to upload to this forum.
Most of you newer greedy scam coin supporters here have NO clue just how bad this scammy bullshit really is.
Want me to put it into perspective ?

I have mentioned the guy who had 10 coins made before and i never have nor will i out him and say his name.
why ?
Because on a scale of how bad a coin cloner he is compared to the other greedy corrupt asshole cloners around here he is like 1% out of 100% bad
the guy is NO where near as bad as most of these other anonymous name changing coward ""fork"" posters that swirl around like vultures.

I have more respect i have said before for guys who steal Bitcoin on trades or hackers who steal coins or even malware spreaders
than i do these coin cloning pricks.. i have seen the depths of deceit, corruption and back stabbing & greed go to colossal levels i never knew people were capable of.
and the people who fumble over themslevs to support them to make a quick buck are not far behind.. you should be ashamed of yourselves.. your pathetic !

you cloners and your supporters ruined the scene bad.. no big crowd is coming and most guys have left already and it's because of you pricks !

and funny enough it was all done to cash it to Bitcoin and in the process you made Bitcoin (and ALL of us) look far worse than it/we did compared to mid-2013.
That is called shooting yourself in the foot and MY feet !
And even funnier is you cloners could have made 100x more profit easily by sticking with a coin or two and attracting heavy weight investors into crypto
instead of taking a shit all over it and chasing them away.. smart people with big money would come here and laugh and walk away instantly..
i know i almost walked away when i registered my account like a year and a half ago, i was disgusted how bad the scene was THEN
and back then compared to NOW we were all little angels Hhhahaha
Back then guys would actually avoid a new coin until it was verified and proven legit thoroughly.. unlike now where ponzi-lovers dive on it ASAP !

The crowd of brats flooded in OCT-2013.. most left but the ones that stayed were the sleaziest of them all and many of the old time Altcoiner's
stayed too to make sure to pander to the corruption machine ponzi-fest.. gotta feed your greedy lemmings with non-stop shit coins for Lambo's..

HYP ? ..pure bullshit .
The dev ? a mass coin cloner.. propped up by the people who surround him, including bag holders, exchanges and mods etc who all want a slice of the pie.
no matter how self destructive it is to ALL of us !

If you believe in crypto guys i urge you to stop supporting those corrosive toxic losers in our scene.
A bitcoin profit is nothing compared to have credibility in the scene and each guy making 100 bitcoin later.. use your brains !
and cloners.. cut the crap and quit playing stupid, the idiots are long gone.. all of us here know damn well what is going on so don't insult our intelligence  ::)


Title: no scoped.. scam coin bag holder takes a head shot !
Post by: Spoetnik on October 23, 2014, 07:14:06 AM
Quote from: SomeLippyMoron
TruckCoin ? ahhahahha
nice find i had no idea..

This is just a classic example of not doing your own research. Plain and simple. Oh well......

my research was asking (over and over for a week) the dev and 30 other loud obnoxious spamming supporters who avoided telling me on Poloniex's chat box.
if asking the coin dev directly is not research then what the fuck is ?

plain and simple ohh well........................................ ;)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 23, 2014, 07:24:18 AM
everyone ignore this thread. don't waste your time.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 23, 2014, 07:31:34 AM
everyone ignore this thread. don't waste your time.

Nice sig

HyperStake - 750% PoS

750% PoS... forever?

How does this not scream Ponzicoin?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 23, 2014, 07:33:56 AM
everyone ignore this thread. don't waste your time.

Nice sig

HyperStake - 750% PoS

750% PoS... forever?

How does this not scream Ponzicoin?

Do your research and find the answer. I won't teach you and won't convince you.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 23, 2014, 11:59:42 AM
Could someone translate the OP's allegation to me? I really don't understand...what is his point?

Disclaimer: I don't own any HYP, I am just trying to understand.

I apologize if I wasn't clear..

The point is that the coin distribution is fraudulent. Forking a coin into a new one is fine, the issue here is that these guys KNEW they were going to fork TRK days/weeks beforehand..  yet they only posted the ANN hours before the actual fork was to happen. This means that for days/weeks, the scammers knew any TRK they owned would entitle them to free HYP, and were free to accumulate TRK unnoticed...

I don't see how this is any different than releasing a cpu only coin, while the devs have a GPU miner.


Thanks for answering but that much was obvious. I just don't really see how this qualifies as a scam. Get real. There are real scammers here, real criminals. Make yourself useful and try to find them instead of going all hysterical on some not-so-important coin, no offense.

Same goes for that Canadian clown.

Anyway sorry I wasted your time (and mine)



You can lead a horse to water... you must be seriously stupid if you still don't understand why this is a scam.

Devs are happy to point point out how this was just an innocent experiment for the TRK community. In fact its a massive pre-mine private ICO scam and they're brazen in their deception to ensure new people keep coming in to buy the coins they got for free.



 


Title: Re: Facts with Spoetnik !
Post by: Hypnotique on October 23, 2014, 01:55:14 PM

HYP ? ..pure bullshit .
The dev ? a mass coin cloner.. propped up by the people who surround him, including bag holders, exchanges and mods etc who all want a slice of the pie.
no matter how self destructive it is to ALL of us !

If you believe in crypto guys i urge you to stop supporting those corrosive toxic losers in our scene.
A bitcoin profit is nothing compared to have credibility in the scene and each guy making 100 bitcoin later.. use your brains !
and cloners.. cut the crap and quit playing stupid, the idiots are long gone.. all of us here know damn well what is going on so don't insult our intelligence  ::)


https://i.imgur.com/JSBTl.gif


https://i.imgur.com/8NAub.gif


https://i.imgur.com/s3AoP.gif




Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: candlesticks on October 23, 2014, 03:17:31 PM
If I did all my "research" in a "troll"box, I would think every coin is a scam, or the next Bitcoin depending on the day and trollbox activity.

Anyone who bases their purchase solely on trollbox chatter is gonna be upset, more often than not.

Anyone that didn't know that HYP was forked from TRK, and distributed the way it was, did not "research" it. All the info was right there, for all to read the whole time. It's even labeled as an "experiment" in the OP. I wish I hadn't passed over it at the beginning, I jumped on it mid september.  The HYP community is full of interesting and intelligent people. A solid, active developer, quick to answer questions, no matter how minor or major.

If you are really trying to save people from there own decisions, there are many scams out there, that are more deserving of your attention.

PRO TIP: Don't buy at the top of a pump, if your feelings are easily hurt.





Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 23, 2014, 08:16:37 PM
(stop repeating about unfair distribution, it's ridiculous).

How is it ridiculous? Do you realize how many people are serving time in federal prisons for getting caught doing exactly what these devs are trying to get away with? (buying with insider information) This is called insider trading and it's ILLEGAL.

Thankfully a few people in this thread get it, the rest of you bagholders are fucking hopeless. No wonder you people get scammed so often.



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 23, 2014, 08:47:16 PM

Do your research and find the answer. I won't teach you and won't convince you.

OK so I did my research and the answer is HYP is a Ponzicoin.

You're a dolt if you buy it now or ever.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 23, 2014, 08:55:21 PM
(stop repeating about unfair distribution, it's ridiculous).

How is it ridiculous? Do you realize how many people are serving time in federals prisons for getting caught doing exactly what these devs are trying to get away with? (buying with insider information) This is called insider trading and it's ILLEGAL.

Thankfully a few people in this thread get it, the rest of you bagholders are fucking hopeless. No wonder you people get scammed so often.



You are slightly mistaken. Insider trading is a trading with an access to information which is not in public domain. But information about the fork was in public domain (I won't go further in building parallels, you can't operate this conception at all, but if you like, then think of the fact that devs are issuers, not investors). We are sorry that we did't send you a personal invitation :)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 23, 2014, 09:00:29 PM

Do your research and find the answer. I won't teach you and won't convince you.

OK so I did my research and the answer is HYP is a Ponzicoin.

You're a dolt if you buy it now or ever.

My answer is: don't buy. It would be great if people that want immediate money from it don't buy it at all.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 23, 2014, 09:23:29 PM
(stop repeating about unfair distribution, it's ridiculous).

How is it ridiculous? Do you realize how many people are serving time in federals prisons for getting caught doing exactly what these devs are trying to get away with? (buying with insider information) This is called insider trading and it's ILLEGAL.

Thankfully a few people in this thread get it, the rest of you bagholders are fucking hopeless. No wonder you people get scammed so often.

You are having way too much fun and letting your imagination run wild.

We were TRK bagholders way before any fork talk... so really this is a non-issue.  

And besides that you obviously have no idea what you are talking about anyways. If I were to go buy the majority share of a penny stock company, and then use my voting power to change the companies goals... that isn't insider trading, seriously look it up. You all need to get your head out of your asses.

Honestly the more you all talk, the happier I get. It is obvious. You are developers or supporters of a shitty PoS coin that has terrible marketing. You tried really hard to clone from the latest PPC source, have a mining period, whatever. Your coin didn't catch on. I am sorry about that. Try again maybe?  HYP is doing it right. We have over 100 people in IRC constantly, we have fun games, tips flying around like nobodies business, an awesome wallet with sweet themes, an unrivaled difficulty level securing the network, an awesome list of exchanges to trade on, etc.

Its obvious why you all have to bitch. We have a following and you don't. Maybe you can learn from us?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 23, 2014, 09:43:57 PM

Its obvious why you all have to bitch. We have a following and you don't. Maybe you can learn from us?

I'm not bitching, I'm just pointing out that your coin sucks and at 750% inflation per annum you'd have to be an idiot to invest in it.

Nobody will give a shit about HYP in 6 months.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 23, 2014, 10:21:34 PM

Its obvious why you all have to bitch. We have a following and you don't. Maybe you can learn from us?

I'm not bitching, I'm just pointing out that your coin sucks and at 750% inflation per annum you'd have to be an idiot to invest in it.

Nobody will give a shit about HYP in 6 months.

By nobody you mean your 2 friends?  :D Learn more, inflation is controlled.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 23, 2014, 10:32:16 PM
First there were scam coins. Then there were ponzi coins. I guess it's about time someone released a scam ponzi coin. Congrats


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 23, 2014, 10:45:55 PM
First there were scam coins. Then there were ponzi coins. I guess it's about time someone released a scam ponzi coin. Congrats

Invest in it like in asset, like in perspective research, and don't think about an interest by now. That's all. Merchants will put everything in its place, including you, fuder :)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 23, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
First there were scam coins. Then there were ponzi coins. I guess it's about time someone released a scam ponzi coin. Congrats

So why don't you tell us which coin is yours?  ;) 


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: David Latapie on October 23, 2014, 11:06:57 PM
David, when has any of your coins gained "wider adoption"?
How many coins have you had a hand in? Eleven? Does that sound about right?
Two. Monero and HyperStake (Mintcoin and Noblecoin, I do not dev them, I like them and helped a bit, that's different).
Try harder.

oh, and this is Earl David.
(there is a tongue-in-cheek reference here - how long before this reference is reused out of context?)

i think some missed out and is alittle upset. ;D
Little is an understatement :D He could buy or get inspiraration instead of trolling. This is open source, not open mouth.

I don't understand why people spend time setting up new accounts and derogatory post instead of actually doing something (well, I actually do understand, I just hope he will move beyond this with time and wisdom). As the saying goes "better to light up a candle than to curse the darkness".

(I know, I said I would not intervene on this quarantine thread - I'm so happy we made our ANN self-mod), but since presstab is posting, I should let him have fun alone. So-li-da-ri-ty :D
as long as it doesn't impede the development of XMR and HYP of course


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: MidwestMiner on October 23, 2014, 11:16:23 PM
Just a slightly more pathetic approach to scamming people out of BTC with a totally pointless altcoin. Only 'innovative' was reviving a dead shitcoin and hard forking it, cause apparently David was too lazy to actually make a new coin (and of course he picked up 1 million+ of the dead coin before launch so he could claim 'no pre mine'..).

Nothing to see here, move on and let this crap die.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 23, 2014, 11:58:27 PM

By nobody you mean your 2 friends?  :D Learn more, inflation is controlled.

I've already learned more than enough. This coin sucks and is basically a Ponzi scheme led by devs who are into brainwashing tactics and developing cults.

If you buy it, you're a simple-minded fool. End of story.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 24, 2014, 01:51:50 AM
If I did all my "research" in a "troll"box, I would think every coin is a scam, or the next Bitcoin depending on the day and trollbox activity.

Anyone who bases their purchase solely on trollbox chatter is gonna be upset, more often than not.

Anyone that didn't know that HYP was forked from TRK, and distributed the way it was, did not "research" it. All the info was right there, for all to read the whole time. It's even labeled as an "experiment" in the OP. I wish I hadn't passed over it at the beginning, I jumped on it mid september.  The HYP community is full of interesting and intelligent people. A solid, active developer, quick to answer questions, no matter how minor or major.

If you are really trying to save people from there own decisions, there are many scams out there, that are more deserving of your attention.

PRO TIP: Don't buy at the top of a pump, if your feelings are easily hurt.





uhh what part of 3 comments up ""i asked 30 times" did you not get ?
and it's not just a point of it was a fork either.. maybe re-read the first post guy LOL


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 24, 2014, 02:03:20 AM
(stop repeating about unfair distribution, it's ridiculous).

How is it ridiculous? Do you realize how many people are serving time in federals prisons for getting caught doing exactly what these devs are trying to get away with? (buying with insider information) This is called insider trading and it's ILLEGAL.

Thankfully a few people in this thread get it, the rest of you bagholders are fucking hopeless. No wonder you people get scammed so often.



You are slightly mistaken. Insider trading is a trading with an access to information which is not in public domain. But information about the fork was in public domain (I won't go further in building parallels, you can't operate this conception at all, but if you like, than think of the fact that devs are issuers, not investors). We are sorry that we did't send you a personal invitation :)

did you see the post dates on the OP's comment ?
that is pretty much proof the dev knew it was being forked waaaaaay before the public knew !
there for giving him the chance to buy up massive cheap DEAD coins for massive re-launch of sorts.
Did he ? i don't know but since it's highly likely it's a VERY fair assumption.. the dev has a LOT of the coins..
so did he RE-launch it first then go pay a LOT for them ? get it ? ahhahha
try using your common sense guys LOL


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 24, 2014, 02:10:29 AM
ok so i think i will be launching my own coin and i will do exactly what the HYP dev did..
and i want to see how many of you defending HYP defend me and if Poloniex adds it too etc LOL

why do i get the feeling if i did the whole community would be after me with pitch-forks ?  :D


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Ense04 on October 24, 2014, 02:44:38 AM
ok so i think i will be launching my own coin and i will do exactly what the HYP dev did..
and i want to see how many of you defending HYP defend me and if Poloniex adds it too etc LOL

why do i get the feeling if i did the whole community would be after me with pitch-forks ?  :D

Thats hilarious...because I doubt you have the slightest idea as what it takes to build a successful brand. You're all talk, like a windbag full of hot hair and no substance. Shows how foolish you are. You're trying to be all high and mighty. A voice of righteousness for the people of crypto. Come on...give us all a break. You're just a pissed of kid with nothing better to do than complain. You probably lost a ton in the past because you don't know how to trade. Now you spend your time chatting up the community because you have nothing else better to do.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 24, 2014, 02:47:39 AM
did you see the post dates on the OP's comment ?
that is pretty much proof the dev knew it was being forked waaaaaay before the public knew !
there for giving him the chance to buy up massive cheap DEAD coins for massive re-launch of sorts.
Did he ? i don't know but since it's highly likely it's a VERY fair assumption.. the dev has a LOT of the coins..
so did he RE-launch it first then go pay a LOT for them ? get it ? ahhahha
try using your common sense guys LOL

PRO TIP: ^ This guy gets it


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 24, 2014, 04:10:09 AM

By nobody you mean your 2 friends?  :D Learn more, inflation is controlled.

I've already learned more than enough. This coin sucks and is basically a Ponzi scheme led by devs who are into brainwashing tactics and developing cults.

If you buy it, you're a simple-minded fool. End of story.

Hey, aggressive idiot, do you still think that the Earth lies on three turtles? I bought this coin when it was cheap and then staked it. If you weren't an idiot, you would buy a whole bunch of it when it cost like hamburger and then helped to build an economy.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 24, 2014, 12:34:30 PM
My answer is: don't buy. It would be great if people that want immediate money from it don't buy it at all.

+1


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: gnargnar on October 24, 2014, 01:12:46 PM
I actually discovered HyperStake with the help of this thread.

It always amazes me when i see a new created bct account making a thread to accuse a coin, because it is usually a sign that something is good about that coin and someone is jealous or want to create a panic on the exchanges, create volatility in order to take a good position for lower prices.

so i have watched this thread carefully, trying to understand what was the attacks about. I still don't understand how it can be so bad that the top list owners of this coin are actually the devs : it is in fact a very good sign for me. And the rich list even have their name beside the top rich list, so i know who are who.

So, to find out more about the real facts behind the coin, i joined the ##hyperstake IRC channel. Looks like the community there are great people, funny and smart. They explained me some of their plans and on what angles someone need to see the big PoS %, because it's not really about the % of PoS, more about the % of total coins someone can hold (and this don't change over time), i guess it is so for every coins.

A Big Pos% favorizes many things imho : community, giveaways, a feeling of abundance and prosperity. It strangely makes everyone that hold coins on a wallet happy and seems to create a kind of "competition" about who will stake first, etc.. i like it ;)

I won't try to hide, i bought some HYP yesterday and will do again today when my btc got confirmed on poloniex. Because i see right now good things about this coin... And wait until Hyperstake hit a chinese exchange, like bter or btc38 : those that follow which altcoins that are trending on the chinese markets knows that the chinese love Pos coins. Also, HYP's visibility, for the moment, is only limited to the poloniex trollbox, the irc channel and here at BCT.  Wait when it hit the social networks like reddit for example.

just wanted to share my opinion here.
i won't answer to Hypnotique, because his 14 posts -all made on this thread- speaks too loud about his bullshit
i won't also reply to Spoetnik, because based on all his recent threads here (like his very very bad joke about ebola), his behavior and how he react to critics, shows to me he probably have mental problems or that he will do everything to grab the attention span ( attention whore)

Good Luck everyone. Visit the IRC channel ##hyperstake and make up your mind on all these contradictory informations here, oh, and enjoy the Giveaways, there are plenty ;)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 24, 2014, 01:53:54 PM
I actually discovered HyperStake with the help of this thread.

It always amazes me when i see a new created bct account making a thread to accuse a coin, because it is usually a sign that something is good about that coin and someone is jealous or want to create a panic on the exchanges, create volatility in order to take a good position for lower prices.

so i have watched this thread carefully, trying to understand what was the attacks about. I still don't understand how it can be so bad that the top list owners of this coin are actually the devs : it is in fact a very good sign for me. And the rich list even have their name beside the top rich list, so i know who are who.

So, to find out more about the real facts behind the coin, i joined the ##hyperstake IRC channel. Looks like the community there are great people, funny and smart. They explained me some of their plans and on what angles someone need to see the big PoS %, because it's not really about the % of PoS, more about the % of total coins someone can hold (and this don't change over time), i guess it is so for every coins.

A Big Pos% favorizes many things imho : community, giveaways, a feeling of abundance and prosperity. It strangely makes everyone that hold coins on a wallet happy and seems to create a kind of "competition" about who will stake first, etc.. i like it ;)

I won't try to hide, i bought some HYP yesterday and will do again today when my btc got confirmed on poloniex. Because i see right now good things about this coin... And wait until Hyperstake hit a chinese exchange, like bter or btc38 : those that follow which altcoins that are trending on the chinese markets knows that the chinese love Pos coins. Also, HYP's visibility, for the moment, is only limited to the poloniex trollbox, the irc channel and here at BCT.  Wait when it hit the social networks like reddit for example.

just wanted to share my opinion here.
i won't answer to Hypnotique, because his 14 posts -all made on this thread- speaks too loud about his bullshit
i won't also reply to Spoetnik, because based on all his recent threads here (like his very very bad joke about ebola), his behavior and how he react to critics, shows to me he probably have mental problems or that he will do everything to grab the attention span ( attention whore)

Good Luck everyone. Visit the IRC channel ##hyperstake and make up your mind on all these contradictory informations here, oh, and enjoy the Giveaways, there are plenty ;)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 24, 2014, 02:00:11 PM
I actually discovered HyperStake with the help of this thread.

Sounds like HYP is the perfect coin for you, considering you're a lying sack of shit  :D

https://i.imgur.com/EEaEGvi.png


https://i.imgur.com/uncRp6n.png

How embarrassing this must be for you...


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Palmdetroit on October 24, 2014, 02:20:44 PM
I actually discovered HyperStake with the help of this thread.

Sounds like HYP is the perfect coin for you, considering you're a lying sack of shit  :D

https://i.imgur.com/EEaEGvi.png


https://i.imgur.com/uncRp6n.png

How embarrassing this must be for you...


Really need to have some sort of warning on this thread *put down any hot beverage you may be drinking* or something, coffee everywhere


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: gnargnar on October 24, 2014, 02:24:14 PM
ok, I will break my words and reply to you Hypnotique :

I won't hide that I like to do a little bit of day-trading : jumping from coins to coins, depending on what's trending.
I usually don't know the coins specs or read the bct thread at all when i take a position. I only look at numbers, volume, etc...
The trollbox is and can be a useful tool to help a day-trader to gain his desired %profit.
Do I teach you something here?

it doesn't change that fact that  because of this thread, i've got more interested in this coin and didn't sold at all what i had.
I even increased my holdings.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Bansheroom on October 24, 2014, 02:31:33 PM

By nobody you mean your 2 friends?  :D Learn more, inflation is controlled.

I've already learned more than enough. This coin sucks and is basically a Ponzi scheme led by devs who are into brainwashing tactics and developing cults.

If you buy it, you're a simple-minded fool. End of story.

Hey, aggressive idiot, do you still think that the Earth lies on three turtles? I bought this coin when it was cheap and then staked it. If you weren't an idiot, you would buy a whole bunch of it when it cost like hamburger and then helped to build an economy.

If someone here is what you call nutildah, then you are it yourself.


Title: sit down and stfu up kids..
Post by: Spoetnik on October 24, 2014, 02:38:25 PM
ok so i think i will be launching my own coin and i will do exactly what the HYP dev did..
and i want to see how many of you defending HYP defend me and if Poloniex adds it too etc LOL

why do i get the feeling if i did the whole community would be after me with pitch-forks ?  :D

Thats hilarious...because I doubt you have the slightest idea as what it takes to build a successful brand. You're all talk, like a windbag full of hot hair and no substance. Shows how foolish you are. You're trying to be all high and mighty. A voice of righteousness for the people of crypto. Come on...give us all a break. You're just a pissed of kid with nothing better to do than complain. You probably lost a ton in the past because you don't know how to trade. Now you spend your time chatting up the community because you have nothing else better to do.

- Yes i agree it is hilarious (How HYP is considered Legit by ANYONE) ROFL
- I don't know what it takes to build a successful "brand" ? ..my name is a brand and well known.. who are you ? (some snotty little shit that just registered here)
- I had my first self started and self owned business i started from scratch at 16 yrs old that spend prob 4 or 5 yrs before i got bored of it..

i ran a sports card trading company and started with 0 cents invested and started by going to trade shows in my town until i was
going to trade shows from the Pacific ocean to the Atlantic ocean (BC to Ontario Canada) in the end i sold off all my assets and spent the money..
Then i missed the trading and investment and business and started it all again with 0 cents invested built it back up again and cashed out again.
and guess what KID ?
I did the same damn thing with crypto.. i started with 0 cents invested and while arguing with idiots about how shitty/pointless my Nvidia GFX was, i built up my portfolio :)

not long ago i cashed out between 10 and 15 grand profit and bought stuff online...
a big ass fucking shopping spree and i am typing this on my $4,000 3rd computer setup.. i bought with my profits too ;)

Calling me kid ? that is rich.. i guarantee YOU are the snotty punk.. i had the first computer ever made little brat.. an old School TRS80i http://oldcomputers.net/trs80i.html
my step-dad bought it for me when i was in grade 5 and it played Space Invaders from cassette tapes on a Radios Shake tape player.
Then after i used Jumbo floppies to play Choplifter etc on my scientist uncle's computer then after that my ex-girlfriends scientists dad's PC with smaller hard floppies.

I was installing and using daily Windows 95 from my giant pack of floppies and in my computer courses i took in the 90's (while you were prob not even born yet)
and helping a friend's famous hotel chain with Novell Netware and using Win 98 se and programming the hotel remotes and room keys that run to this day custom designed code.

..and brands ? I am a fucking legend online with various "brands" HAHAHA
as a cracker and coder i have been recognized a lot ..my long line of work is infamous !
My old group names are well known and my work has been pre'd and i have written a million nfo's LOL
My co cracker buddy and my old group has been on every News site/TV station on earth a dozen times and last i heard my buddy was arrested by the FBI (while you were playing with dolls still)

If you played Counter strike Source when it came out cracked.. your welcome ;)

If you used any version of cracked steam you will likely see my credits for coding and the first cracks for it on v2 platform and v3 platforms
and then how i coded a variety of memory loaders and full fledged emulators and shared the source code as well as making scripts to dump the many API vtables etc etc

I also forced my way into the Steam beta when it was a private closed beta for only 500 users and i was probably user no. 90 on their forum of 200 users total.

One of my other "brands" was using another name i go by and that is a File Sharing program i coded in 2003 aprox 40x larger than any coin which included many firsts.
..still used today of course :)

If you go to TPB right now you will see Spoetnik and a penguin with an AK on many keygenerators.. my "brand"
as well as other cracks and keygens going back 10+ years such as Tag & Rename.

Oh you want the resume KID ?
i..  will..  fucking..  bury..  you........ with it  8)

"windbag full of hot hair"

You bet your damn ass !
I got the skills to pay the bills and my HOT "hair" is panty dropper town.. i get laid plenty son
And it is you who is "showing how foolish you are".. running your mouth guessing dumb shit about a guy you know nothing about..
I eat 3 or 4 of you for breakfast each morning LOL

"You're trying to be all high and mighty. "
You bet your damn ass KID ! ..i am the Mighty Spoetnik and you will bow down and respect my authority !
I am older than most of you.. wiser, smarter and have far better skills at crypto and i even have HOT "hair" .. I'm a fucking gorgeous dreamboat of hunkyness  8)
and i know far more about this Altcoin stuff than some lippy noob Kid that registered here May 06, 2014

and "A voice of righteousness for the people of crypto"
No just one of many.. many of us think bad is bad and exploiting people with deceptive tactics is talking this Altcoin stuff TOO FAR !

"Come on...give us all a break."
No problem.. quit coming here then.. who is forcing you to come here and defend scams and read our replies ? (by attacking me personally)

"You're just a pissed of kid"
I know you are but what am i ?

"nothing better to do than complain"
I have not complained about anything i just told you all "you're doing it wrong" and have continued to offer a specific way to do things better point by point.
You got my opinions (the correct ones) so your welcome.. what more do you want ?

"You probably lost a ton in the past because you don't know how to trade."
LOL now that is rich.. you got some nerve KID HAHAHHAHHA
I have a large tool kit of trading skills that i can assure you dwarfs yours and see above my profits as proof.. wanna see the TX records showing pure profits ?

"Now you spend your time chatting up the community because you have nothing else better to do."
Actually i spend my time coming here to warn others about scam defenders like you who think attacking people personally will make your Ponzi Scam coin legit.
Seems to me YOU are the one with nothing better to do..maybe get a job brat ? Or are you lazy like me and want to scam Bitcointalk for a living rather than working ?

If i want your opinion i will give it to you.. now run along and go play in the sandbox son.

Oh and by the way that was a small taste of my resume i also ran a PC sales and repair business for around 9 years too.
On call for a decade at the Famous Hotel chain.. did work for a dozen other business's and have setup hosting and web design from scratch for countless companies..
and even done Govt work.
What have you done again kid ?
You want the extended version of my resume ? ...and a list of my "brands" ?

PS:
A coin "brand" is a worthless useless pile of scammy joke gay bullshit scammers repeat to make themselves feel important.
You think you're all "high and mighty" about BRANDING ? fine.. take that useless gay ad serving bullshit to a marketing agency and leave us alone.
we get more than enough advertising / marketing from Kiddiots with their marketing degrees who have told me that marketing is more important than the devs making the coins.
or.. maybe go start yourself a new web site you can use to rip-off victims with a multi-level-marketing scheme scam ?

I am somebody Noob and you are not kid so sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up .


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 24, 2014, 03:12:41 PM
I might as well use this space to advertise our new wallet themes. Thanks for all the hard work ZeeWolf!!

HyperBlue
https://i.imgur.com/s9taXIo.jpg

Poloniex Day
https://i.imgur.com/pm62oDh.jpg

Poloniex Night
https://i.imgur.com/SH9eRrP.jpg


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: cycoinminer on October 24, 2014, 03:32:36 PM
I might as well use this space to advertise our new wallet themes. Thanks for all the hard work ZeeWolf!!

HyperBlue
https://i.imgur.com/s9taXIo.jpg

Poloniex Day
https://i.imgur.com/pm62oDh.jpg

Poloniex Night
https://i.imgur.com/SH9eRrP.jpg

Loving the new themes... I've yet to try them myself, but they look GREAT! :)

HYP is coming along in leaps and bounds - and the network difficulty, for a POS coin, it's pretty much unheard of - kinda shows how popular HYP is with the community out there :)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: kingpin69 on October 24, 2014, 03:36:54 PM
I might as well use this space to advertise our new wallet themes. Thanks for all the hard work ZeeWolf!!

HyperBlue
https://i.imgur.com/s9taXIo.jpg

Poloniex Day
https://i.imgur.com/pm62oDh.jpg

Poloniex Night
https://i.imgur.com/SH9eRrP.jpg

Dayum! Dem themable wallets though O.o

Zeewolf that is some nice work you put in there, HYP is looking as good as it runs now w000t w000t!!


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 24, 2014, 05:29:22 PM
Hi presstab, someone told me you were looking into HYP/USD markets? I'm looking forward to it. :)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 24, 2014, 06:35:50 PM
Hi presstab, someone told me you were looking into HYP/USD markets? I'm looking forward to it. :)

We already have HYP/XUSD.  XUSD is pretty awesome really. You can use one XUSD as 1 btce dollar. Send your XUSD to coinomat and then they give you a btce cash code. The great part about this is that you can use the cash on btc-e which is a liquid market for btc to fiat, ltc to fiat, ppc to fiat, markets. Some of the glitchy altcoin exchanges that have fiat trading have seen that it wasn't beneficial because people want to use the liquid markets.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: zeewolf on October 24, 2014, 07:10:01 PM
Zeewolf that is some nice work you put in there, HYP is looking as good as it runs now w000t w000t!!

That's my pleasure! I'm glad that my work is appreciated by community and gives us one of the best looking Qt wallet out there in cryptoworld. Expect more, as I'm not stopping my efforts to make it even better.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 24, 2014, 08:38:14 PM
Hi presstab, someone told me you were looking into HYP/USD markets? I'm looking forward to it. :)

Yes I want to convert my dollars into void as quickly as possible.

Can I just direct deposit my paycheck straight into your bank account and save myself the time?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 24, 2014, 09:11:06 PM
So are you guys in on the Poloniex hack? I know they make a lot of money off of you and your parents, I guess you're trying to get it back? More likely you pissed off another BCX type.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 24, 2014, 09:39:11 PM
I might as well use this space to advertise our new wallet themes. Thanks for all the hard work ZeeWolf!!

HyperBlue
https://i.imgur.com/s9taXIo.jpg

Poloniex Day
https://i.imgur.com/pm62oDh.jpg

Poloniex Night
https://i.imgur.com/SH9eRrP.jpg

Dayum! Dem themable wallets though O.o

Zeewolf that is some nice work you put in there, HYP is looking as good as it runs now w000t w000t!!

kingpin69 check out the two new themes that Shrykez made for us today <3

Celestial
https://i.imgur.com/I7shmqL.jpg

Magma
https://i.imgur.com/ZPpIl6D.jpg


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Ense04 on October 24, 2014, 09:49:26 PM
I might as well use this space to advertise our new wallet themes. Thanks for all the hard work ZeeWolf!!

HyperBlue
https://i.imgur.com/s9taXIo.jpg

Poloniex Day
https://i.imgur.com/pm62oDh.jpg

Poloniex Night
https://i.imgur.com/SH9eRrP.jpg

Dayum! Dem themable wallets though O.o

Zeewolf that is some nice work you put in there, HYP is looking as good as it runs now w000t w000t!!

kingpin69 check out the two new themes that Shrykez made for us today <3

Celestial
https://i.imgur.com/I7shmqL.jpg

Magma
https://i.imgur.com/ZPpIl6D.jpg

Magma looks awesome! Well done!


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 24, 2014, 09:50:26 PM
https://i.imgur.com/xejVYr6.jpg


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 24, 2014, 09:53:08 PM
I might as well use this space to advertise our new wallet themes. Thanks for all the hard work ZeeWolf!!

HyperBlue
https://i.imgur.com/s9taXIo.jpg

Poloniex Day
https://i.imgur.com/pm62oDh.jpg

Poloniex Night
https://i.imgur.com/SH9eRrP.jpg

Dayum! Dem themable wallets though O.o

Zeewolf that is some nice work you put in there, HYP is looking as good as it runs now w000t w000t!!

kingpin69 check out the two new themes that Shrykez made for us today <3

Celestial
https://i.imgur.com/I7shmqL.jpg

Magma
https://i.imgur.com/ZPpIl6D.jpg

Magma looks awesome! Well done!

Thanks Ense04 but please make sure to give all the credit for the magma and celestial themes to Shrykez, he worked hard on these I know.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Ense04 on October 24, 2014, 09:58:52 PM
I might as well use this space to advertise our new wallet themes. Thanks for all the hard work ZeeWolf!!

HyperBlue
https://i.imgur.com/s9taXIo.jpg

Poloniex Day
https://i.imgur.com/pm62oDh.jpg

Poloniex Night
https://i.imgur.com/SH9eRrP.jpg

Dayum! Dem themable wallets though O.o

Zeewolf that is some nice work you put in there, HYP is looking as good as it runs now w000t w000t!!

kingpin69 check out the two new themes that Shrykez made for us today <3

Celestial
https://i.imgur.com/I7shmqL.jpg

Magma
https://i.imgur.com/ZPpIl6D.jpg

Magma looks awesome! Well done!

Thanks Ense04 but please make sure to give all the credit for the magma and celestial themes to Shrykez, he worked hard on these I know.

Well done shrykez!


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: EyesWideOpen on October 24, 2014, 09:59:10 PM
Good job on getting your sheeps posting and requoting large images to hide all the posts that threaten your scam.

David, when has any of your coins gained "wider adoption"?
How many coins have you had a hand in? Eleven? Does that sound about right?
All your coins are just made for exchanges. Everyone knows this, even your bagholders know this.
You're a cloner. That's it. You make money for yourself and your pals at the expense of the trusting, voiceless majority.
You're part of the disease that is holding back crypto.

No matter how many times you proclaim how important you are in crypto, no matter how many times you post links of your simple-minded comments to Polo's trollbox trying to impress some noob, people know who you are, David.

I know for a fact that even some members of the Monero team are embarrassed to be associated with you, David.
Two. Monero and HyperStake (Mintcoin and Noblecoin, I do not dev them, I like them and helped a bit, that's different).
Try harder.

oh, and this is Earl David.
(there is a tongue-in-cheek reference here - how long before this reference is reused out of context?)

i think some missed out and is alittle upset. ;D
Little is an understatement :D He could buy or get inspiraration instead of trolling. This is open source, not open mouth.

I don't understand why people spend time setting up new accounts and derogatory post instead of actually doing something (well, I actually do understand, I just hope he will move beyond this with time and wisdom). As the saying goes "better to light up a candle than to curse the darkness".

(I know, I said I would not intervene on this quarantine thread - I'm so happy we made our ANN self-mod), but since presstab is posting, I should let him have fun alone. So-li-da-ri-ty :D
as long as it doesn't impede the development of XMR and HYP of course

David, David, David...
Not surprising that you would deny it. Of course you won't destroy your own gravy train.
But your denial lacks the indignation of someone falsely accused of something. It sounds contrived.
I have also restored the parts of my quotes which you have cowardly snipped off.

We are doing something here David. We are trying to prevent you and your cronies from scamming noobs.
I have a challenge for you.
Presstab earlier posted this.

And via PM from David:
Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).

No grace.
What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.


The phrasing of the sentences do not sound like you at all. It looks like something you and Presstab made up together as usual.
If you dare allow theymos or a Hero-level escrow to view that chain of messages and confirm their actually existence, it would prove both of you are not lying psychopathic scumbags who would cheat and lie just to make some money. If those private messages exists, it would prove I don't know what I am talking about and I will no longer have any credibility to say anything at all. It would prove the sneaky edits in the ANN thread were not malicious.

Do you and your sycophant Presstab dare take up this challenge, David Latapie, or will you make up some excuses to get out of this? Please don't try to get your cronies to verify the messages. Theymos, Badbear, Maidak, Tysat, John K, Danny Hamilton, Tomatocage, gmaxwell or people of similar stature would do nicely.



EDIT: Immediately after posting this, I received a PM from Presstab.

Quote
hey PM me back if you dare  :o

I wonder what he is up to?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 24, 2014, 10:19:10 PM
EDIT: Immediately after posting this, I received a PM from Presstab.

hey PM me back if you dare  :o

I wonder what he is up to?

PM me back and maybe you will see

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRVqIQI7F0auXlV3nJ_1tUE3e609zyh6HGhTIcw2g4S1RZdFTHF


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 24, 2014, 10:20:01 PM
I might as well use this space to advertise our new wallet themes. Thanks for all the hard work ZeeWolf!!

HyperBlue
https://i.imgur.com/s9taXIo.jpg

Poloniex Day
https://i.imgur.com/pm62oDh.jpg

Poloniex Night
https://i.imgur.com/SH9eRrP.jpg

Dayum! Dem themable wallets though O.o

Zeewolf that is some nice work you put in there, HYP is looking as good as it runs now w000t w000t!!

kingpin69 check out the two new themes that Shrykez made for us today <3

Celestial
https://i.imgur.com/I7shmqL.jpg

Magma
https://i.imgur.com/ZPpIl6D.jpg

Magma looks awesome! Well done!

Thanks Ense04 but please make sure to give all the credit for the magma and celestial themes to Shrykez, he worked hard on these I know.

Well done shrykez!

I don't know if you all saw this difficulty chart I made:

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjkW38u4.jpg&t=545&c=DpW-boBuX13npA


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: EyesWideOpen on October 24, 2014, 10:39:01 PM
Good job on getting your sheeps posting and requoting large images to hide all the posts that threaten your scam.

David, when has any of your coins gained "wider adoption"?
How many coins have you had a hand in? Eleven? Does that sound about right?
All your coins are just made for exchanges. Everyone knows this, even your bagholders know this.
You're a cloner. That's it. You make money for yourself and your pals at the expense of the trusting, voiceless majority.
You're part of the disease that is holding back crypto.

No matter how many times you proclaim how important you are in crypto, no matter how many times you post links of your simple-minded comments to Polo's trollbox trying to impress some noob, people know who you are, David.

I know for a fact that even some members of the Monero team are embarrassed to be associated with you, David.
Two. Monero and HyperStake (Mintcoin and Noblecoin, I do not dev them, I like them and helped a bit, that's different).
Try harder.

oh, and this is Earl David.
(there is a tongue-in-cheek reference here - how long before this reference is reused out of context?)

i think some missed out and is alittle upset. ;D
Little is an understatement :D He could buy or get inspiraration instead of trolling. This is open source, not open mouth.

I don't understand why people spend time setting up new accounts and derogatory post instead of actually doing something (well, I actually do understand, I just hope he will move beyond this with time and wisdom). As the saying goes "better to light up a candle than to curse the darkness".

(I know, I said I would not intervene on this quarantine thread - I'm so happy we made our ANN self-mod), but since presstab is posting, I should let him have fun alone. So-li-da-ri-ty :D
as long as it doesn't impede the development of XMR and HYP of course

David, David, David...
Not surprising that you would deny it. Of course you won't destroy your own gravy train.
But your denial lacks the indignation of someone falsely accused of something. It sounds contrived.
I have also restored the parts of my quotes which you have cowardly snipped off.

We are doing something here David. We are trying to prevent you and your cronies from scamming noobs.
I have a challenge for you.
Presstab earlier posted this.

And via PM from David:
Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).

No grace.
What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.


The phrasing of the sentences do not sound like you at all. It looks like something you and Presstab made up together as usual.
If you dare allow theymos or a Hero-level escrow to view that chain of messages and confirm their actually existence, it would prove both of you are not lying psychopathic scumbags who would cheat and lie just to make some money. If those private messages exists, it would prove I don't know what I am talking about and I will no longer have any credibility to say anything at all. It would prove the sneaky edits in the ANN thread were not malicious.

Do you and your sycophant Presstab dare take up this challenge, David Latapie, or will you make up some excuses to get out of this? Please don't try to get your cronies to verify the messages. Theymos, Badbear, Maidak, Tysat, John K, Danny Hamilton, Tomatocage, gmaxwell or people of similar stature would do nicely.



EDIT: Immediately after posting this, I received a PM from Presstab.

Quote
hey PM me back if you dare  :o

I wonder what he is up to?

EDIT: Immediately after posting this, I received a PM from Presstab.

hey PM me back if you dare  :o

I wonder what he is up to?

PM me back and maybe you will see

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRVqIQI7F0auXlV3nJ_1tUE3e609zyh6HGhTIcw2g4S1RZdFTHF

No thanks. Let's keep everything public.
I'm going out for a date shortly so David will have plenty of time to contact an admin, mod or escrow I suggested above to verify the existence of the PMs. The selected admin, mod or escrow can also check my account and view the strange private messages I've been receiving.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 24, 2014, 10:48:32 PM

I can quote pictures too, dumdums


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: new2coins on October 24, 2014, 11:08:07 PM
I might as well use this space to advertise our new wallet themes. Thanks for all the hard work ZeeWolf!!

HyperBlue
https://i.imgur.com/s9taXIo.jpg

Poloniex Day
https://i.imgur.com/pm62oDh.jpg

Poloniex Night
https://i.imgur.com/SH9eRrP.jpg

Dayum! Dem themable wallets though O.o

Zeewolf that is some nice work you put in there, HYP is looking as good as it runs now w000t w000t!!

kingpin69 check out the two new themes that Shrykez made for us today <3

Celestial
https://i.imgur.com/I7shmqL.jpg

Magma
https://i.imgur.com/ZPpIl6D.jpg

Magma looks awesome! Well done!

Thanks Ense04 but please make sure to give all the credit for the magma and celestial themes to Shrykez, he worked hard on these I know.

Well done shrykez!

I don't know if you all saw this difficulty chart I made:

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjkW38u4.jpg&t=545&c=DpW-boBuX13npA

COOL!

https://prateekvjoshi.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/1-main1.jpg


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 25, 2014, 12:35:17 AM
.







presstab, you're better than this.. re-posting images? i'm a little disappointed. do you think this is accomplishing anything other than destroying any remaining credibility you might have?

Somehow i missed those PM's the first time around, would love to know if they're legit. You'd expect more of a back and forth discussion about such matters though, wouldn't you?







.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 25, 2014, 01:05:36 AM
HYP just added to Cryptsy!

Hmmm interesting!  :)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 25, 2014, 01:31:47 AM
HYP just added to Cryptsy!

Hmmm interesting!  :)

Hmm unlike your several coins new or abandoned.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 01:39:11 AM
Zeewolf that is some nice work you put in there, HYP is looking as good as it runs now w000t w000t!!

That's my pleasure! I'm glad that my work is appreciated by community and gives us one of the best looking Qt wallet out there in cryptoworld. Expect more, as I'm not stopping my efforts to make it even better.

regardless of my thoughts on HYP i gotta give you props on a nice wallet ;)
ever considered doing some freelance work for Jackpotcoin ?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 01:41:00 AM
Hi presstab, someone told me you were looking into HYP/USD markets? I'm looking forward to it. :)

Yes I want to convert my dollars into void as quickly as possible.

Can I just direct deposit my paycheck straight into your bank account and save myself the time?

That was funny i enjoyed that comment and hope to see more :)

Maybe the US govt can start sending out all govt checks as HYP coins instead soon ? hmmm ?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 01:46:10 AM
.







presstab, you're better than this.. re-posting images? i'm a little disappointed. do you think this is accomplishing anything other than destroying any remaining credibility you might have?

Somehow i missed those PM's the first time around, would love to know if they're legit. You'd expect more of a back and forth discussion about such matters though, wouldn't you?







.

i hate to gang up on the guy but i've gotten a few lately and i just ignore all.. i have not read them presstab sorry ;)
since i know damn well it has something to do with HYP i just don't wanna hear it..
facts are facts and their are plenty of them out there for all to see.. talking will not change this no matter how hard your crew try and spin things.

edit:
and HYP just added to Cryptsy ?
Hey cryptsy where is my Jackpot coin ?
i see you guys have plenty of motivation to add coin(s) swirling in a tornado of scam accusations LOL
to be blunt i was surprised it was not added already  ::)
classy shit guys ahhaha


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 25, 2014, 05:38:36 AM
HYP just added to Cryptsy!

Hmmm interesting!  :)

Hmm unlike your several coins new or abandoned.

It seems to me you have something against Presstab personally. But we accept your congratulations :D


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on October 25, 2014, 06:23:06 AM
just envy
lets make donations to Hypnotique


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperClown SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 06:50:21 AM
I asked today on poloniex's chat box about how many Coins total there is and the mod did not know..
then someone responded to me that i was stupid and it's on the block chain site and he posted a blockexplorer web site link (i didn't want to click on)

then.. CrazyLoaf came by and i suggested he tell the devs to add this info to the ANN first post details (like all other coins do)
he said that's dumb and doesn't matter or something to that effect..
I said well you want me to go ask/post about it right now ? and he didn't say anything else LOL

so..

- I am dumb for asking
- It does not matter
- The exchange added it but does not know.

R O F L

PS:
I just got yet another PM from presstab asking me why i hate HYP coin and saying it was a good coin.
so i guess he's too busy sending all us "Haters" pm's vs posting the coins specs on his ANN topic or other info like the TruckCoin info on the ANN topic first post.

i had already said for 10th time on chat today i don't hate it or love it.. facts are facts .
feelings have nothing to do with it.. "it" being the truth !

Oh and no matter how hard i tried or who i asked no one could tell me the total coin supply LOL
I still don't know !

edit:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678849.msg9322159#msg9322159
now their doing a ponzi within a ponzi scheme ! ahhahah
AKA: the Hyperloan

i caen haz some ponzi in my ponzi scheme pleese ?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 25, 2014, 07:24:06 AM
We should make a HYIP coin...

1,000% POS!!!

Its called Ponzicoin but the ticker is HYIP.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on October 25, 2014, 08:04:35 AM
Just ignore the FUD,.
they are paid by competitors and never stop


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 25, 2014, 08:23:20 AM
We should make a HYIP coin...

1,000% POS!!!

Its called Ponzicoin but the ticker is HYIP.

Let me explain you the difference between a HYIP and HYP.
First of all, a HYIP is a Ponzi scheme. You get money (big interest from your direct investments) while there are new investors. Then, when withdrawals overwhelm inflow or when admin decides to flee, a HYIP scams. And you can't control this process. But in HYP you buy an asset in a form of cryptocurrency, and it depends only on your decision what to do with it (you can even find an another developer if the present one will change his mind and discontinue the support). Nobody promises you tons of bucks. You buy an asset and you stake an asset. You can then sell it for another asset or give it as a present. You can even make a deal with your hairdresser that he will accept payments made with this asset. Taking into account that it is the most secure (while being the most environmentally friendly) cryptocurrency network, he will probably agree ;). But let's assume that you are eager for plain dollars and want to cash out like a crazy. Then this crypto is not for you. You won’t be able to sell all you stakes consistently at first stages of development (if you have a big portion of HYP). There is simply no sufficient liquidity for it. There should exist a stable circulation of money that comes from intersection with other economies, for example, entertainment or retail market. And that are the main goals of the HYP development. If you don’t understand it, I can’t figure out what are you doing in the cryptocurrency sphere.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 25, 2014, 12:52:59 PM
ok, I will break my words and reply to you Hypnotique :

I won't hide that I like to do a little bit of day-trading : jumping from coins to coins, depending on what's trending.
I usually don't know the coins specs or read the bct thread at all when i take a position. I only look at numbers, volume, etc...
The trollbox is and can be a useful tool to help a day-trader to gain his desired %profit.
Do I teach you something here?

it doesn't change that fact that  because of this thread, i've got more interested in this coin and didn't sold at all what i had.
I even increased my holdings.
https://i.imgur.com/VnKthM8.png


I'll give you props gnargnar for having the cojones to post in this thread again, after your first shill post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9314407#msg9314407) you worked so hard on failed so spectacularly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9314906#msg9314906)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperClown SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 25, 2014, 02:54:17 PM

PS:
I just got yet another PM from presstab asking me why i hate HYP coin and saying it was a good coin.
so i guess he's too busy sending all us "Haters" pm's vs posting the coins specs on his ANN topic or other info like the TruckCoin info on the ANN topic first post.

i had already said for 10th time on chat today i don't hate it or love it.. facts are facts .
feelings have nothing to do with it.. "it" being the truth !

Oh and no matter how hard i tried or who i asked no one could tell me the total coin supply LOL
I still don't know !


Thank you for your contributions to this thread. Sounds like presstab is trying to do as much damage control as possible. Maybe one of the unread pm's from him is asking you to escrow for the challenge issued by EyesWideOpen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9319497#msg9319497)?  :D

Also, as of a few minutes ago: "moneysupply" : 31,484,923.02263500


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperScam STAKE
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 03:24:44 PM
Just ignore the FUD,.
they are paid by competitors and never stop

wrong.. i have already in a round about way been offered coins many times by them including presstab.
and i have no doubt if i kissed their ass and asked for a hyperloan i'd be given one.. 10,000 coin loan for up to 30 days to get 2k stake
i also am pretty damn broke and could use the money coins etc ahahhaa
so.. i say what i do is out of principle and for the good of the scene over all.

and yes sometimes i find it amusing and laugh obnoxiously because the "stunts" the same old guys 'round here pull are funny.
they got it coming.. they did it to themselves.

the funny part is only hours ago these guys *again were bashing ME AND my favorite coin for it's total coin supply saying it's crap..
i wonder where they get the tech-info from ? hmm ? maybe from the ANN topic's first post where it's posted for all to see ?

it's no accident that the info i mentioned is left out.. all coins put it there and we ALL know it don't play dumb about it  ::)

i also have to say it all here because although these HYP guys love to spam the living shit out of all crypto about it non stop
they won't allow any criticism on it.. and i just seen a comment i made deleted.

so ignore the claims made by mysterious nobodies here claiming people are being PAID to attack them.. we'd gladly do it for free LOL
and for all i know some of YOU are paid to run around defending this coin  :o

PS:
@Mig-23
Quite making a million crap coins and we will "stop" ;)
And i warned all the HYP guys i just finished saying and gave them a chance and they acted like assholes about it it..

edit:
These Shills have a LOT of nerve starting with me where ever i go and Trolling on me with personal insults even if i am not even talking about any coin.
then running here and playing the victim  ::)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Deepanal on October 25, 2014, 03:41:49 PM
Just ignore the FUD,.
they are paid by competitors and never stop

That's all this is. Paid fud'rs.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 03:43:55 PM
@Hypnotique

Thanks for the supply info.. it's funny YOU of all people around here had to tell me LOL

That sounds like 32 million coins then a massive stake percentage on top of that.. for those counting ;)
I wonder what the dev paid for his ? hint: read the first post here ahhaha

Also did they get back to you about proving identities with staff ?
or did they do the usual Troll + diversion game routine ?

and thanks for exposing gnargnar i love it LOL
that guy has REALLY been trolling the living shit out of me on Poloniex's chat any time i've gone there :(
he is obviously lurking then starts with me with insults and won't let up non stop for an hour until he knows mods are getting fed up.
and what you quoted him saying proves he's just a selfish greedy corrupt vulture on our scene trying to make a buck off any scam coin.
he does not support crypto and he knows it.. he's been around a long time and knows damn well what he is doing !

CRYPTSY ?
I think they added it because they need the business.. i see a lot of bashing on them all over + bad lawsuit media news etc.
They probably also see morons handing their money over for a dumb coin and think hey if they wanna give it away.. LOL


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 03:45:25 PM
Just ignore the FUD,.
they are paid by competitors and never stop

That's all this is. Paid fud'rs.

prove it !


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Deepanal on October 25, 2014, 03:49:32 PM
You scream bloody murder at those who spam and trash your so-called rep, but from what we've seen here, thats all you tend to do to others. It's amazing how clueless you are. You must be getting paid for this, or you're just one angry asshole. maybe both.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Zer0Sum on October 25, 2014, 04:06:58 PM
HYP just added to Cryptsy!

What is Cryptsy thinking forming XRP "markets" with < $5,000/day in volume?
It's hard to take Cryptsy seriously when their USD trading after 4-5 months does < $10,000/day.

So Paul Vernon is sucking IRS dick... and paying 40 US employees for this?

Is Cryptsy an elaborate NSA front... or the next Gox?

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-cryptsy-owner-paul-vernon-face-lawsuit/

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As for HYP...
People unfamiliar with high stake coins should just STFU.

High Stake is a legit and fascinating experimental space in Alts...
Which will eventually evolve into something far more complex resembling the junk bond sector...
And is probably the easiest Alt Sector to profit from if you can be bothered to learn the basics.   


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 04:20:18 PM
You scream bloody murder at those who spam and trash your so-called rep, but from what we've seen here, thats all you tend to do to others. It's amazing how clueless you are. You must be getting paid for this, or you're just one angry asshole. maybe both.

facts are facts.. i said presstab deleted my comment and he sent me pm's (unprovoked) about 4 or 5 of them in a span of a week

i did NOT call him an angry asshole.

sadly.. as always.. many of you act like children an dyou do not seem to possess the intelligence to see the difference between criticising a coin and attacking someone personally.

i am angry ? hmmm news to me LOL

and asshole ? i here it daily.. i know ;)
but.. what in gods name does that have to do with anything ?
are you in round about vague way trying to say i pick on coins unfairly because i am angry for some reason and i do this because i am a "paid" asshole ?

@Deepanal, You failed miserably at staying on topic and all you did is attack me personally.
It's not about me or my feelings  ::)
It's about liars and scammers..


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 25, 2014, 04:27:20 PM

facts are facts.. i said presstab deleted my comment and he sent me pm's (unprovoked) about 4 or 5 of them in a span of a week


This is not a fact at all and is a total lie. Don't believe this liar.
This is the only PM I have sent to spoetnik
why do you hate hyp so much?  you are skeptical of everything but being skeptical is good.  hyp is a good coin though.

Ahhh but i think there is more to this post. I have sent several annoying pointless PM's to EyesWideOpen - this confirms that this account is really spoetnik, or else he would not be complaining about multiple PM's from me. Thanks for the admission buddy!  ;)

This was the coolest PM I sent to EyesWideOpen


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 04:28:55 PM
HYP just added to Cryptsy!

What is Cryptsy thinking forming XRP "markets" with < $5,000/day in volume?
It's hard to take Cryptsy seriously when their USD trading after 4-5 months does < $10,000/day.

So Paul Vernon is sucking IRS dick... and paying 40 US employees for this?

Is Cryptsy an elaborate NSA front... or the next Gox?

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-cryptsy-owner-paul-vernon-face-lawsuit/

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As for HYP...
People unfamiliar with high stake coins should just STFU.

High Stake is a legit and fascinating experimental space in Alts...
Which will eventually evolve into something far more complex resembling the junk bond sector...
And is probably the easiest Alt Sector to profit from if you can be bothered to learn the basics.  

it goes beyond high stake though man..
i don't like the concept and i think it will hit a brick wall but whatever i don't want to derail the topic LOL
Let's maybe just agree to disagree on that specific point ;)

there is faaaaaaaar more to this that looks sketchy as hell than simply the fact it's a high stake percentage coin !

and i just went back to Cryptsy right now to have a quick peek and my 1 year ban is still on there LOL
and right away i seen JShock talking about HTML 5 for XRP markets.
sad..
i seen it on the top of their voting list for ages and i guess they went all in on ripple or something ?
Bad idea.. all of us hate that crap with a passion LOL
then again people are jerking it to 100% premined coins these days so hmm what i do know.. maybe there is an even scammier way of distrib'ing coins that will get big ?

disclaimer.. i defended Cryptsy a lot yesterday.
i only ever hope to work with the perceptions we have at any given time.
even with a one year ban on me with their chat i don't hold any big grudge with them.
and i would gladly criticize or defend them i don't stand on either side of a team..
i hope to be in the middle and learn as much as possible about goes on..
i say that because it's likely some cryptsy staff will see me talking here and i don't want them to see any recent comments i'm making as i am trying to bad mouth them.
but if i see something that looks dumb i'm gonna say it.. just my 0.2 cents ;)

fanboyism does not interest me.. facts do !


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 04:41:46 PM

facts are facts.. i said presstab deleted my comment and he sent me pm's (unprovoked) about 4 or 5 of them in a span of a week


This is not a fact at all and is a total lie. Don't believe this liar.
This is the only PM I have sent to spoetnik
why do you hate hyp so much?  you are skeptical of everything but being skeptical is good.  hyp is a good coin though.

Ahhh but i think there is more to this post. I have sent several annoying pointless PM's to EyesWideOpen - this confirms that this account is really spoetnik, or else he would not be complaining about multiple PM's from me. Thanks for the admission buddy!  ;)

This was the coolest PM I sent to EyesWideOpen

want some screen caps or logs ?

why are you sending HYP related annoying pointless PM's as you just said ?
you REALLY are going into over time digging yourself a hole man ahhahah
run around trying to act friendly while you drain everyone's wallets and stab people in the back quietly huh ?

get it through your thick fucking skulls guys..
- i never made a coin !
- i have one fucking account !


You don't believe me because you are all liars clearly.. so you must find it hard to believe other tell the truth.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Deepanal on October 25, 2014, 05:08:09 PM
@Deepanal, You failed miserably at staying on topic and all you did is attack me personally.
It's not about me or my feelings  ::)
It's about liars and scammers..


@Spoetnik, Im not attacking, just stating an observation. I wouldn't know who I am attacking anyways, with your multiple accounts posting hate-FUD, its hard to keep up. This is a classic example of a FUD thread. Only fools would listen and take seriously any of your nonsense.



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: BitCoinPokerBro on October 25, 2014, 05:15:59 PM
wow this actually makes sense  ::)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 25, 2014, 05:47:49 PM
David, presstab.. have you decided which moderator or trusted community member will be verifying the existence of the PM's you posted?

If the PM's are confirmed legitimate, I will relinquish control of this Hypnotique account to the mod/community member.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 25, 2014, 05:51:56 PM
@Deepanal, You failed miserably at staying on topic and all you did is attack me personally.
It's not about me or my feelings  ::)
It's about liars and scammers..


Your talking to yourself, anus.

Somebody forgot to log out of their sockpuppet account.  :D


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 05:57:20 PM
Quote
presstab: Spoetnik, then why were you posting about me like 25 posts ago when i wasnt here?
getmesome: moderated by OMK. :)
Spoetnik: teh amount of pm's you sent me is not exactly an important issue in the grand scheme of things lol
Spoetnik: presstab, did you read it ?
presstab: Spoetnik, sure
Spoetnik: well then why are you asking me then ?
presstab: Spoetnik, wat
Spoetnik: yoru proving my point..
Spoetnik: i said yoru only interested in fighting basicaly just liek yoru doing now
Spoetnik: and i said i could help you stop drama not cause it ;)
NickNS: Spoetnik, oh man, do you really think you're the smartest person around here?
Spoetnik: NickNS, do you ?
NickNS: how come you always come and pick a fight
NickNS: always
NickNS: always
NickNS: always
presstab: Spoetnik, i dont care a bout PR lol. I just care about HYP's code and security
Spoetnik: NickNS, why do you poick fights ? ..always ?
Spoetnik: NickNS, why ?
leathan7: presstab, screw PR
leathan7: code and security +10
NickNS: I've never seen you here talking nice to someone
presstab: leathan7, exactly lol
Spoetnik: NickNS, i never seen you talking before eitehr so why do i care what you think ?
OldManKidd: Please, let's try and play nice in the TROLLBOX. Thank you. A message from your local MOD SQUAD
leathan7: lets all me *bleep* freinds
marcous: it's already been personal, by attacking HYP and the dev
nimrood: OldManKidd, howdy--you're on early it seems!
Spoetnik: presstab, fien then i will take that as a NO you dontl wnat my help.. aka pr is not important
OldManKidd: that is the end of the friendly warning
leathan7: good thing that was bleeped out =)
OldManKidd: nimrood, he ya ... im always around it seems lol
Spoetnik: OldManKidd, i hope you meant that for the crowd of HYP cheerleaders that have dived on me man
presstab: Spoetnik, submit a pull request on github if you want to help

getmesome: OldManKidd, you are man. Your a machine
eatthetree123: presstab, yeah I'm borrowing a friends pi to stake with. 3w power consumption is nothing and it is silent so I can run it 24/7. Hopefully my 1960 hyp will be a
Spoetnik: presstab, your ignored i am not getting banned fo ryoru childish crap coin bs
DirkBenedict: only thing spoetnik can pull is his timbit
eatthetree123: Hyp buy support growing
leathan7: idk what all the fight is about
leathan7: but if a hyp dev was insulted i disagree
leathan7: they are smart and nice from waht ive seen
presstab: eatthetree123, thats awesome! Hell_ from IRC put ubuntu onto android phone and is trying to build daemon from there
OldManKidd: Spoetnik, i am meaning that for insulting and instigating behavior
eatthetree123: OldManKidd, hi
OldManKidd: getmesome, lol
OldManKidd: eatthetree123, good day to you
eatthetree123: presstab, that would be awesome. A android app would be even cooler! I would pay for an android app wallet so I could stake 24/7
getmesome: OldManKidd, cheers eh
eatthetree123: Hyp buy orders jumping around from 14 down to 12.7
presstab: eatthetree123, hard part about android app is that it is a battery eater
Spoetnik: OldManKidd, exactly.. idin;t do anything of the sort man
Spoetnik: THEY did !
presstab: eatthetree123, and it would take a lot of valuable time to make it
polonuser: Heh, not sure about the history, but I can agree to david and presstab being upstanding fellows
Spoetnik: and i am slogging it for sure too
OldManKidd: Spoetnik, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv5fqunQ_4I
eatthetree123: presstab, yeah that's true. A lot of time. I don't think a stake wallet has ever been done for crypto
Spoetnik: i don;t click on video links
presstab: eatthetree123, its done. Peercoin has one now
polonuser: And hey, seems hyp's going for another leg up after that 40% slide
polonuser: Wonder if that's short lived or not...
presstab: polonuser, i think spoetnik is buying up all the hyp while he FUDs
OldManKidd: Spoetnik, lol sure you dont
Spoetnik: you gonna let him still sit there and talk about me ?
idaho: CAM coin any opinions here
Spoetnik: and what ban m,e if i say anything right ?
polonuser: did he hint at that ?
presstab thought he was ignored
Spoetnik: i dont; as in not today buddy
nimrood: go hyp!
Spoetnik: i didn’t do anything
Spoetnik: and yoru letting him adn his groupies dive on me non stop
polonuser: You seem to have typed a lot, looking above :D
Spoetnik: whiel wrning me ONLY
OldManKidd: Spoetnik, ?
polonuser goes look at xdn
amoebatron: lol
getmesome: my spidey sense is tingling.....
eatthetree123: presstab, do you have the stake calculator link available? And what does it show btw
polonuser: They might have done a PoS for cryptonote, and people seem to say meh :/
cycoinminer: Nice to come home and see that action on HYP :)
presstab: eatthetree123, it is in the latest beta release wallet v1.0.6.6
polonuser: damn xmr:D
presstab is going out to grab some lunch
FistfulOfCoins: OldManKidd, i TX'd some btsx over 12 hours ago and still dont see it c9255381cbfc73999ce7693bbd505f24b5b281a5
Spoetnik: getting a little sick of this i am a troll so harras me crap mod sponsored routine
FistfulOfCoins: wtf is up, i submittd a ticket and got no reply either
OldManKidd: Spoetnik, how is anyone harassing you.. i dont see anyone talking aobut you
OldManKidd: FistfulOfCoins, is that sent to here?
getmesome: Go QBK
Holmel: looking for a moderator to assist me
OldManKidd: Holmel, whats can i assist you with?
polonuser: CLAMs must be the most volatile aorund. Getting me dizzy
Spoetnik: ic an play dumb too ..trust me
Spoetnik: so far you all seen me trying to be nice on various Chatboxes and forums.
polonuser: And it went to almost 60, so the 40 now isn't even close to the top it just had... crazy...
amoebatron: Spoetnik, What would you like to happen?
OldManKidd: FistfulOfCoins?
getmesome: If anyone bought Hit shares from one of many QBK promos... have youseen the lastest conference in Niagara Falls vid?
marc-8c4d: g
gribgo: gogogHYPHYP
amoebatron: I'm on point with my BTC trades at the moment. To the tee.
amoebatron: Way to go, me.
OldManKidd: amoebatron, lol
Spoetnik: amoebatron, i am not gonn abother you guys are playing games
polonuser: Thanks :)
Spoetnik: Cryptsy has that mod game patented lol
Spoetnik: been there and done that ;)
polonuser: lol just noticed a CNOTE. To go with the DNOTE :D
amoebatron: Spoetnik, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not playing any games.
Spoetnik: amoebatron, a pile of childish kids tearing into me whiel mods watch and warn me and then play liek i deserve it letting them
Spoetnik: i don’t deserve it !
polonuser: wow, hyp's continuing up
Holmel: oldmankid: i have a complete: error message when i tried to withdraw some dogecoins
Spoetnik: i deserve to be treated by how i act and not the repuation soem peoepl want to stamp on me
Spoetnik: such as Cryptsy banning me for a year becauseof a comment at Bitcointalk is that right ? profesional ?
OldManKidd: Spoetnik, i did not watch as anyone was tearing into you?/??
OldManKidd: Holmel, k one moment please
getmesome: Glad to see Hydroinfra technologies being watched by Canada and U.S.
OldManKidd: Holmel, try half of that amount please
polonuser: Hope it doesn't go too high to quick like last time
OldManKidd: Holmel, it has been returned
checkpoints13: hello
checkpoints13: everyone
Holmel: thx. i will try
Spoetnik: presstab, i reported your comment for bragging about Trolling on Bitcointalk eh
amoebatron: checkpoints13, yo!
polonuser: Hello checkpoints13, future holder of xdn :D
checkpoints13: I really hate btc right now... Why wont it just go up?? :/
OldManKidd: checkpoints13, hey ya
Spoetnik: proof = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9327101#msg9327101
OldManKidd: Holmel, you are welcome
amoebatron: checkpoints13 is in the housssse
OldManKidd: checkpoints13, i know.. so frustrating lol
amoebatron: checkpoints13, I'm shorting it. Love it. :-p
Spoetnik: proof = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9327101#msg9327101
amoebatron: checkpoints13, Only temporarily though.
FistfulOfCoins: OldManKidd, yes
FistfulOfCoins: OldManKidd, d4d705bc8e92b13d poloniexwallet
getmesome: checkpoints13, Hi man
getmesome: checkpoints13, did you see the QBK post?
OldManKidd: Spoetnik, why are you bringing that up in here.. are you trying to start a fight?
Spoetnik: OldManKidd, are you ?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 25, 2014, 05:59:12 PM
David, presstab.. have you decided which moderator or trusted community member will be verifying the existence of the PM's you posted?

If the PM's are confirmed legitimate, I will relinquish control of this Hypnotique account to the mod/community member.

They are of course legitimate. And your offer is cute, a new thread and sock puppet will be created and it will all start over. Nobody cares, and all of the accusations have been answered. Get over it.



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 05:59:59 PM
@Deepanal, You failed miserably at staying on topic and all you did is attack me personally.
It's not about me or my feelings  ::)
It's about liars and scammers..


@Spoetnik, Im not attacking, just stating an observation. I wouldn't know who I am attacking anyways, with your multiple accounts posting hate-FUD, its hard to keep up. This is a classic example of a FUD thread. Only fools would listen and take seriously any of your nonsense.



if You "don't know who you're attacking anyways" then how are you so sure i am an "asshole" ?
see how your logic fails you ?

mysterious nobody pops up and cries FUD ? mmm hmmm do you think we're all 2 yrs old ?

people can think what they want.. hopefully they get the honest facts to make a decision on.
and unlike you i have tried to help clarify the truth with a minimum level of maturity in the face of dummy accounts trolling with insults.

all of you HYP supporters seem to be little children and a handful of Mods on exchanges who see clearly what is going on but your playing dumb.
any SMART people will see this..

you guys are not smart at all..

this OP guy popped up because of what i just said i pretty much guarantee it..
you HYP guys wanna act like little childish little game playing deceitful brats then what happened is some smart guys took notice..
and started issuing some spankings.. and i have to laugh because it's probably because of them watching how you treated me here and on the HYP exchange.
so.. you dig even deeper.

i just had to log some chatting of the ole mods playing dumb routine again where Poloniex pulled a Cryptsy..
let scam coin brats troll the shit of guys and then warn the guy who is getting trolled on and saying pretty much nothing..
i had even just told presstab to back off i don't want to hijack the chat with HYP drama and i was the one who got warned when he was Trolling ME ! LOL
This paints a picture for people watching guys whether you wanna play dumb about it or not..
and you will probably see a 4th or 5th Hypnotique because your fucking dumb cocky scam coin pushing morons ..that NEVER learn !

I tried like hell to HELP the HYP situation and the dev today put out the fire for him and i was really rather nice to the guy
and you all re-payed me with a bucket full of spit in the face.. i'm done.. DROWN idiots !


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 25, 2014, 06:12:09 PM
David, presstab.. have you decided which moderator or trusted community member will be verifying the existence of the PM's you posted?

If the PM's are confirmed legitimate, I will relinquish control of this Hypnotique account to the mod/community member.

They are of course legitimate. And your offer is cute, a new thread and sock puppet will be created and it will all start over. Nobody cares, and all of the accusations have been answered. Get over it.



Bullshit. Period. Nothing was answered.

Enjoy your scam shitbag

Ok write a bullet point list of the unanswered questions please darling.  Keep it brief, I am mostly only skimming these huge fudster posts now.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 06:26:14 PM
@presstab
I lost a LOT of respect for you and your Shill team today and Poloniex mod OldManKidd.

Clawing at my eyes Trolling endlessly then trying to pin 100% of it on me after..
then sitting there and playing dumb in front of witnesses is pretty damn stupid.
you guys fucked up today !
and i doubt you will get it either.. your all cocky but not too bright.

get what i said last yet ?

I am not Hypnotique.. or the other guys that popped up !
So when you read what i just finished saying.. your going to get even more problems. LOL

there is no helping any of these guys.. don't even bother.

and if your looking for class maturity respect or integrity ? ..keep looking. (you won't find it with HYP or Poloniex)

this presstab guy has acted like a mouthy spoiled brat all along and if you all want to invest in a currency being run by an out of control child go for it.
just beware the older kids playing him for the dump profits later LOL
the enablers defending him etc lie Poloniex mods etc..

was the TruckCoin info hidden because he knew it would disgust people in crypto ? i guarantee it !
it's no coincidence what info was added to his ANN topic and what was omitted such as the max amount of coins.
putting your best foot forward so to speak or being outright deceitful.. that is for you all decide ;)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: CrazyLoaf on October 25, 2014, 06:28:41 PM
Spoetnik, honey bunny, you're a funny fellow.

First off, you can go to http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/ like I told you for your coin numbers. It's not a scary site (I will hold your flipper if you want). Tranz uses it for HBN and CAP, see here:

http://hbn.cryptocoinexplorer.com/
http://cap.cryptocoinexplorer.com/

Now if you go to the HYP one, you will notice that there is a rich list with a *ton* of claimed addresses. I personally have never seen anything like this before :o

http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/rich

You can analyze these addresses all you want. Some users have performed interesting analysis on HYP, HBN, and CAP in my thread.

I leave you with a poem:

I'm in the milk and the milk's in me.
God Bless the milk and God Bless me!


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: gnargnar on October 25, 2014, 06:30:30 PM
... interesting : Spoetnik and Hypnotique are never both online at the same time here  ::)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 25, 2014, 06:39:46 PM
@Deepanal, You failed miserably at staying on topic and all you did is attack me personally.
It's not about me or my feelings  ::)
It's about liars and scammers..


So who's sockpuppet do you think this is?

I tried to find some sort of potential irony or humor in the self-referencing but I failed to do so.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 06:59:26 PM
... interesting : Spoetnik and Hypnotique are never both online at the same time here  ::)

interesting you're trolling constantly and i never seen you get a warning for it.. hmm wonder why that is ?
such as every single time i have gone to Poloniex.. you have started in on me for long periods of time while mods watched quietly.
classy shit idiots  ::)

and by the way i am fully 101% giving my permission to anyone on planet earth including the staff here to confirm or deny my identity.
as in they should be able to see our IP address's do NOT match !

and demanding i have multiple accounts every 3rd topic here is tiring Trolling games bullshit to divert attention from your scam coin.

i say to you all.. WHY do these guys have to Troll and lie non stop ? take a fucking guess LOL
You want to invest in lying brats pushing a shit coin ? go hard hahahha


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 25, 2014, 07:02:06 PM
@Deepanal, You failed miserably at staying on topic and all you did is attack me personally.
It's not about me or my feelings  ::)
It's about liars and scammers..


So who's sockpuppet do you think this is?

I tried to find some sort of potential irony or humor in the self-referencing but I failed to do so.




@Deepanal, You failed miserably at staying on topic and all you did is attack me personally.
It's not about me or my feelings  ::)
It's about liars and scammers..


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 07:10:43 PM
Quote
presstab: Spoetnik, then why were you posting about me like 25 posts ago when i wasnt here?
getmesome: moderated by OMK. :)
Spoetnik: the amount of pm's you sent me is not exactly an important issue in the grand scheme of things lol
Spoetnik: presstab, did you read it ?
presstab: Spoetnik, sure
Spoetnik: well then why are you asking me then ?
presstab: Spoetnik, wat
Spoetnik: your proving my point..
Spoetnik: i said your only interested in fighting basically just like your doing now
Spoetnik: and i said i could help you STOP drama.. not cause it ;)
NickNS: Spoetnik, oh man, do you really think you're the smartest person around here?
Spoetnik: NickNS, do you ?
NickNS: how come you always come and pick a fight
NickNS: always
NickNS: always
NickNS: always
presstab: Spoetnik, i dont care a bout PR lol. I just care about HYP's code and security
Spoetnik: NickNS, why do you pick fights ? ..always ?
Spoetnik: NickNS, why ?
leathan7: presstab, screw PR
leathan7: code and security +10
NickNS: I've never seen you here talking nice to someone
presstab: leathan7, exactly lol
Spoetnik: NickNS, i never seen you talking before either so why do i care what you think ?
OldManKidd: Please, let's try and play nice in the TROLLBOX. Thank you. A message from your local MOD SQUAD
leathan7: lets all me *bleep* freinds
marcous: it's already been personal, by attacking HYP and the dev
nimrood: OldManKidd, howdy--you're on early it seems!
Spoetnik: presstab, fine then i will take that as a NO you don't want my help.. aka: PR is not important
OldManKidd: that is the end of the friendly warning
leathan7: good thing that was bleeped out =)
OldManKidd: nimrood, he ya ... im always around it seems lol
Spoetnik: OldManKidd, i hope you meant that for the crowd of HYP cheerleaders that have dived on me man ?
presstab: Spoetnik, submit a pull request on github if you want to help

getmesome: OldManKidd, you are man. Your a machine
eatthetree123: presstab, yeah I'm borrowing a friends pi to stake with. 3w power consumption is nothing and it is silent so I can run it 24/7. Hopefully my 1960 hyp will be a
Spoetnik: presstab, your ignored i am not getting banned for your childish crap coin bs !
DirkBenedict: only thing spoetnik can pull is his timbit
eatthetree123: Hyp buy support growing
leathan7: idk what all the fight is about
leathan7: but if a hyp dev was insulted i disagree
leathan7: they are smart and nice from waht ive seen
presstab: eatthetree123, thats awesome! Hell_ from IRC put ubuntu onto android phone and is trying to build daemon from there
OldManKidd: Spoetnik, i am meaning that for insulting and instigating behavior
eatthetree123: OldManKidd, hi
OldManKidd: getmesome, lol
OldManKidd: eatthetree123, good day to you
eatthetree123: presstab, that would be awesome. A android app would be even cooler! I would pay for an android app wallet so I could stake 24/7
getmesome: OldManKidd, cheers eh
eatthetree123: Hyp buy orders jumping around from 14 down to 12.7
presstab: eatthetree123, hard part about android app is that it is a battery eater
Spoetnik: OldManKidd, exactly.. i didn't do anything of the sort man
Spoetnik: THEY did !
presstab: eatthetree123, and it would take a lot of valuable time to make it
polonuser: Heh, not sure about the history, but I can agree to david and presstab being upstanding fellows
Spoetnik: and i am slogging it for sure too
OldManKidd: Spoetnik, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv5fqunQ_4I
eatthetree123: presstab, yeah that's true. A lot of time. I don't think a stake wallet has ever been done for crypto
Spoetnik: i don't click on video links
presstab: eatthetree123, its done. Peercoin has one now
polonuser: And hey, seems hyp's going for another leg up after that 40% slide
polonuser: Wonder if that's short lived or not...
presstab: polonuser, i think spoetnik is buying up all the hyp while he FUDs
OldManKidd: Spoetnik, lol sure you dont
Spoetnik: you gonna let him still sit there and talk about me ?
idaho: CAM coin any opinions here
Spoetnik: and what ban me if i say anything right ?
polonuser: did he hint at that ?
presstab thought he was ignored
Spoetnik: i don't.. as in not today buddy
nimrood: go hyp!
Spoetnik: i didn’t do anything
Spoetnik: and your letting him and his groupies dive on me non stop
polonuser: You seem to have typed a lot, looking above :D
Spoetnik: while you're warning me ONLY
OldManKidd: Spoetnik, ?
polonuser goes look at xdn
amoebatron: lol
getmesome: my spidey sense is tingling.....
eatthetree123: presstab, do you have the stake calculator link available? And what does it show btw
polonuser: They might have done a PoS for cryptonote, and people seem to say meh :/
cycoinminer: Nice to come home and see that action on HYP :)
presstab: eatthetree123, it is in the latest beta release wallet v1.0.6.6
polonuser: damn xmr:D
presstab is going out to grab some lunch
FistfulOfCoins: OldManKidd, i TX'd some btsx over 12 hours ago and still dont see it c9255381cbfc73999ce7693bbd505f24b5b281a5
Spoetnik: getting a little sick of this i am a troll so harass me crap mod sponsored routine
FistfulOfCoins: wtf is up, i submittd a ticket and got no reply either
OldManKidd: Spoetnik, how is anyone harassing you.. i don't see anyone talking about you
OldManKidd: FistfulOfCoins, is that sent to here?
getmesome: Go QBK
Holmel: looking for a moderator to assist me
OldManKidd: Holmel, whats can i assist you with?
polonuser: CLAMs must be the most volatile aorund. Getting me dizzy
Spoetnik: i can play dumb too ..trust me
Spoetnik: so far you all seen me trying to be nice on various Chat boxes and forums.

polonuser: And it went to almost 60, so the 40 now isn't even close to the top it just had... crazy...
amoebatron: Spoetnik, What would you like to happen?
OldManKidd: FistfulOfCoins?
getmesome: If anyone bought Hit shares from one of many QBK promos... have youseen the lastest conference in Niagara Falls vid?
marc-8c4d: g
gribgo: gogogHYPHYP
amoebatron: I'm on point with my BTC trades at the moment. To the tee.
amoebatron: Way to go, me.
OldManKidd: amoebatron, lol
Spoetnik: amoebatron, i am not gonna bother you guys are playing games
polonuser: Thanks :)
Spoetnik: Cryptsy has that mod game patented lol
Spoetnik: been there and done that ;)

polonuser: lol just noticed a CNOTE. To go with the DNOTE :D
amoebatron: Spoetnik, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not playing any games.
Spoetnik: amoebatron, a pile of childish kids tearing into me while mods watch and warn ME and then play like i deserve.. it letting them
Spoetnik: i don’t deserve it !

polonuser: wow, hyp's continuing up
Holmel: oldmankid: i have a complete: error message when i tried to withdraw some dogecoins
Spoetnik: i deserve to be treated by how i act and not the reputation some people want to stamp on me
Spoetnik: such as Cryptsy banning me for a year because of a comment at Bitcointalk is that right ? professional ?

OldManKidd: Spoetnik, i did not watch as anyone was tearing into you?/??
OldManKidd: Holmel, k one moment please
getmesome: Glad to see Hydroinfra technologies being watched by Canada and U.S.
OldManKidd: Holmel, try half of that amount please
polonuser: Hope it doesn't go too high to quick like last time
OldManKidd: Holmel, it has been returned
checkpoints13: hello
checkpoints13: everyone
Holmel: thx. i will try
Spoetnik: presstab, i reported your comment for bragging about Trolling on Bitcointalk eh
amoebatron: checkpoints13, yo!
polonuser: Hello checkpoints13, future holder of xdn :D
checkpoints13: I really hate btc right now... Why wont it just go up?? :/
OldManKidd: checkpoints13, hey ya
Spoetnik: proof = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9327101#msg9327101
OldManKidd: Holmel, you are welcome
amoebatron: checkpoints13 is in the housssse
OldManKidd: checkpoints13, i know.. so frustrating lol
amoebatron: checkpoints13, I'm shorting it. Love it. :-p
Spoetnik: proof = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9327101#msg9327101
amoebatron: checkpoints13, Only temporarily though.
FistfulOfCoins: OldManKidd, yes
FistfulOfCoins: OldManKidd, d4d705bc8e92b13d poloniexwallet
getmesome: checkpoints13, Hi man
getmesome: checkpoints13, did you see the QBK post?
OldManKidd: Spoetnik, why are you bringing that up in here.. are you trying to start a fight?
Spoetnik: OldManKidd, are you ?


i added more info just now to the quote.. the newer info is from the start to the first blank line.
it show cases a brat dev who is going out of his way to fight while mods back him on Poloniex chat.

edit:
also i don't know why my link (near the end) showed up twice in chat when i saved this with copy and paste.. i only entered it once and seen it show up once ..weird !

edit2:
I also fixed this up with spelling corrections for my notorious bad spelling.. and made some bold highlighted but i did not change any comments though.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 25, 2014, 07:14:11 PM
@Deepanal, You failed miserably at staying on topic and all you did is attack me personally.
It's not about me or my feelings  ::)
It's about liars and scammers..


So who's sockpuppet do you think this is?

I tried to find some sort of potential irony or humor in the self-referencing but I failed to do so.




@Deepanal, You failed miserably at staying on topic and all you did is attack me personally.
It's not about me or my feelings  ::)
It's about liars and scammers..

Oh whoops.

My eyes must be getting tired. I'm going out for some exercise.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 25, 2014, 09:09:58 PM
... interesting : Spoetnik and Hypnotique are never both online at the same time here  ::)

Too bad you have ZERO credibility (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9325023#msg9325023)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
... interesting : Spoetnik and Hypnotique are never both online at the same time here  ::)

Too bad you have ZERO credibility (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9325023#msg9325023)

just want to screencap how we're both online here ahhaha

http://i57.tinypic.com/igf90i.jpg


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 25, 2014, 09:25:42 PM

just want to screencap how we're both online here ahhaha


must be VPS :P


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 25, 2014, 09:36:08 PM
well their hell bent at avoiding talking about the coin itself i see..
the only thing "they" are interested in is bad mouthing anyone they don't like.
i dunno if it was me i'd be more concerned about getting the facts straight about the coin weird :/

all i am hearing is Spoetnik etc is ugly and his mother dresses him funny so there for HYP coin is going the Moon  ::)

facts get posted then a group of angry whiny little bag holders coming flooding in causing a diversion with insults and baseless accusations.
which is pretty strange because i never seen that type of behavior before here !

The HYP coin scam is the very first one.. all the other coins were totally legit so this is a pretty weird situation.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 25, 2014, 10:09:43 PM
Any questions about HyperStake itself I would love to answer for you all. Please simply compile a basic bullet point list and I'll track down the answers no problem at all.  8)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Deepanal on October 25, 2014, 10:35:18 PM
well their hell bent at avoiding talking about the coin itself i see..
the only thing "they" are interested in is bad mouthing anyone they don't like.
i dunno if it was me i'd be more concerned about getting the facts straight about the coin weird :/

all i am hearing is Spoetnik etc is ugly and his mother dresses him funny so there for HYP coin is going the Moon  ::)

facts get posted then a group of angry whiny little bag holders coming flooding in causing a diversion with insults and baseless accusations.
which is pretty strange because i never seen that type of behavior before here !

The HYP coin scam is the very first one.. all the other coins were totally legit so this is a pretty weird situation.

Interesting, you seem hell bent on bad mouthing those you don't like. Go figure...


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: EyesWideOpen on October 26, 2014, 12:25:14 AM
Good job on getting your sheeps posting and requoting large images to hide all the posts that threaten your scam.

David, when has any of your coins gained "wider adoption"?
How many coins have you had a hand in? Eleven? Does that sound about right?
All your coins are just made for exchanges. Everyone knows this, even your bagholders know this.
You're a cloner. That's it. You make money for yourself and your pals at the expense of the trusting, voiceless majority.
You're part of the disease that is holding back crypto.

No matter how many times you proclaim how important you are in crypto, no matter how many times you post links of your simple-minded comments to Polo's trollbox trying to impress some noob, people know who you are, David.

I know for a fact that even some members of the Monero team are embarrassed to be associated with you, David.
Two. Monero and HyperStake (Mintcoin and Noblecoin, I do not dev them, I like them and helped a bit, that's different).
Try harder.

oh, and this is Earl David.
(there is a tongue-in-cheek reference here - how long before this reference is reused out of context?)

i think some missed out and is alittle upset. ;D
Little is an understatement :D He could buy or get inspiraration instead of trolling. This is open source, not open mouth.

I don't understand why people spend time setting up new accounts and derogatory post instead of actually doing something (well, I actually do understand, I just hope he will move beyond this with time and wisdom). As the saying goes "better to light up a candle than to curse the darkness".

(I know, I said I would not intervene on this quarantine thread - I'm so happy we made our ANN self-mod), but since presstab is posting, I should let him have fun alone. So-li-da-ri-ty :D
as long as it doesn't impede the development of XMR and HYP of course

David, David, David...
Not surprising that you would deny it. Of course you won't destroy your own gravy train.
But your denial lacks the indignation of someone falsely accused of something. It sounds contrived.
I have also restored the parts of my quotes which you have cowardly snipped off.

We are doing something here David. We are trying to prevent you and your cronies from scamming noobs.
I have a challenge for you.
Presstab earlier posted this.


And via PM from David:
Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).


No grace.
What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.


The phrasing of the sentences do not sound like you at all. It looks like something you and Presstab made up together as usual.
If you dare allow theymos or a Hero-level escrow to view that chain of messages and confirm their actually existence, it would prove both of you are not lying psychopathic scumbags who would cheat and lie just to make some money. If those private messages exists, it would prove I don't know what I am talking about and I will no longer have any credibility to say anything at all. It would prove the sneaky edits in the ANN thread were not malicious.

Do you and your sycophant Presstab dare take up this challenge, David Latapie, or will you make up some excuses to get out of this? Please don't try to get your cronies to verify the messages. Theymos, Badbear, Maidak, Tysat, John K, Danny Hamilton, Tomatocage, gmaxwell or people of similar stature would do nicely.




EDIT: Immediately after posting this, I received a PM from Presstab.

Quote
hey PM me back if you dare  :o

I wonder what he is up to?

EDIT: Immediately after posting this, I received a PM from Presstab.

hey PM me back if you dare  :o

I wonder what he is up to?

PM me back and maybe you will see

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRVqIQI7F0auXlV3nJ_1tUE3e609zyh6HGhTIcw2g4S1RZdFTHF

No thanks. Let's keep everything public.
I'm going out for a date shortly so David will have plenty of time to contact an admin, mod or escrow I suggested above to verify the existence of the PMs. The selected admin, mod or escrow can also check my account and view the strange private messages I've been receiving.

So David Latapie and Presstab, it's been one day. Have either of you contacted anyone to verify the phantom PMs?
It's such a simple thing to do. Unless both of you are scared of being proven liars?
It really is pathetic when two 'devs' have to resort to creating fake PMs between each other to support their story.
If Presstab and David lied about the PMs, one can only imagine what else they are lying about.
I pity the poor fools who bought into the HYP lies. They are basically just paying for David and Presstab's new car and Christmas holiday and funding their next scam.
What a way to earn a living.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 26, 2014, 02:32:01 AM

So David Latapie and Presstab, it's been one day. Have either of you contacted anyone to verify the phantom PMs?
It's such a simple thing to do. Unless both of you are scared of being proven liars?
It really is pathetic when two 'devs' have to resort to creating fake PMs between each other to support their story.
If Presstab and David lied about the PMs, one can only imagine what else they are lying about.
I pity the poor fools who bought into the HYP lies. They are basically just paying for David and Presstab's new car and Christmas holiday and funding their next scam.
What a way to earn a living.


Its not fake at all, but i have no intentions of appeasing some fake troll accounts request. Use your real account boy.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: EyesWideOpen on October 26, 2014, 02:51:08 AM
Good job on getting your sheeps posting and requoting large images to hide all the posts that threaten your scam.

David, when has any of your coins gained "wider adoption"?
How many coins have you had a hand in? Eleven? Does that sound about right?
All your coins are just made for exchanges. Everyone knows this, even your bagholders know this.
You're a cloner. That's it. You make money for yourself and your pals at the expense of the trusting, voiceless majority.
You're part of the disease that is holding back crypto.

No matter how many times you proclaim how important you are in crypto, no matter how many times you post links of your simple-minded comments to Polo's trollbox trying to impress some noob, people know who you are, David.

I know for a fact that even some members of the Monero team are embarrassed to be associated with you, David.
Two. Monero and HyperStake (Mintcoin and Noblecoin, I do not dev them, I like them and helped a bit, that's different).
Try harder.

oh, and this is Earl David.
(there is a tongue-in-cheek reference here - how long before this reference is reused out of context?)

i think some missed out and is alittle upset. ;D
Little is an understatement :D He could buy or get inspiraration instead of trolling. This is open source, not open mouth.

I don't understand why people spend time setting up new accounts and derogatory post instead of actually doing something (well, I actually do understand, I just hope he will move beyond this with time and wisdom). As the saying goes "better to light up a candle than to curse the darkness".

(I know, I said I would not intervene on this quarantine thread - I'm so happy we made our ANN self-mod), but since presstab is posting, I should let him have fun alone. So-li-da-ri-ty :D
as long as it doesn't impede the development of XMR and HYP of course

David, David, David...
Not surprising that you would deny it. Of course you won't destroy your own gravy train.
But your denial lacks the indignation of someone falsely accused of something. It sounds contrived.
I have also restored the parts of my quotes which you have cowardly snipped off.

We are doing something here David. We are trying to prevent you and your cronies from scamming noobs.
I have a challenge for you.
Presstab earlier posted this.


And via PM from David:
Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).


No grace.
What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.


The phrasing of the sentences do not sound like you at all. It looks like something you and Presstab made up together as usual.
If you dare allow theymos or a Hero-level escrow to view that chain of messages and confirm their actually existence, it would prove both of you are not lying psychopathic scumbags who would cheat and lie just to make some money. If those private messages exists, it would prove I don't know what I am talking about and I will no longer have any credibility to say anything at all. It would prove the sneaky edits in the ANN thread were not malicious.

Do you and your sycophant Presstab dare take up this challenge, David Latapie, or will you make up some excuses to get out of this? Please don't try to get your cronies to verify the messages. Theymos, Badbear, Maidak, Tysat, John K, Danny Hamilton, Tomatocage, gmaxwell or people of similar stature would do nicely.




EDIT: Immediately after posting this, I received a PM from Presstab.

Quote
hey PM me back if you dare  :o

I wonder what he is up to?

EDIT: Immediately after posting this, I received a PM from Presstab.

hey PM me back if you dare  :o

I wonder what he is up to?

PM me back and maybe you will see

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRVqIQI7F0auXlV3nJ_1tUE3e609zyh6HGhTIcw2g4S1RZdFTHF

No thanks. Let's keep everything public.
I'm going out for a date shortly so David will have plenty of time to contact an admin, mod or escrow I suggested above to verify the existence of the PMs. The selected admin, mod or escrow can also check my account and view the strange private messages I've been receiving.

So David Latapie and Presstab, it's been one day. Have either of you contacted anyone to verify the phantom PMs?
It's such a simple thing to do. Unless both of you are scared of being proven liars?
It really is pathetic when two 'devs' have to resort to creating fake PMs between each other to support their story.
If Presstab and David lied about the PMs, one can only imagine what else they are lying about.
I pity the poor fools who bought into the HYP lies. They are basically just paying for David and Presstab's new car and Christmas holiday and funding their next scam.
What a way to earn a living.



So David Latapie and Presstab, it's been one day. Have either of you contacted anyone to verify the phantom PMs?
It's such a simple thing to do. Unless both of you are scared of being proven liars?
It really is pathetic when two 'devs' have to resort to creating fake PMs between each other to support their story.
If Presstab and David lied about the PMs, one can only imagine what else they are lying about.
I pity the poor fools who bought into the HYP lies. They are basically just paying for David and Presstab's new car and Christmas holiday and funding their next scam.
What a way to earn a living.


Its not fake at all, but i have no intentions of appeasing some fake troll accounts request. Use your real account boy.

So this will be your excuse then to try and escape from your lies?
I know you're not very bright, and are just a lackey for David, but when you say 'fake troll accounts', that's a contradiction in terms, dumbo.  ;D
In case you didn't notice, four other people have asked you the same question.
Aren't you embarrassed making a living like this? Does your father knows his son makes money by scamming?
I also won't respond to any of your PMs, because knowing your history, you will probably photoshop my replies. So stop sending me PMs.

https://i.imgur.com/RTotkQX.png


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: xxxgoodgirls on October 26, 2014, 04:26:43 AM
... interesting : Spoetnik and Hypnotique are never both online at the same time here  ::)

Too bad you have ZERO credibility (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9325023#msg9325023)

just want to screencap how we're both online here ahhaha

http://i57.tinypic.com/igf90i.jpg

How to get the black theme? It looks disabled for my account


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: hobala on October 26, 2014, 05:26:19 AM
Agree,maybe hyp scam i buy high and then dump 50% :(


Title: Pedophiles Firefox Soft-Clone Coins HYP'ers MOON Lambo'z
Post by: Spoetnik on October 26, 2014, 05:48:33 AM
@xxxgoodgirls.. It's my browser not the forum ;)
And my theme colors are on every web site i go to !

First, I used Firefox and changed around the buttons along the top to how i wanted it.

Then i used the Greasemonkey Addon
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/

Then i added the script
https://userstyles.org/styles/23516/midnight-surfing-global-dark-style

That's it :)

I have another script that is more a true black color but it ends up causing problems often with invisible parts of web pages.
most of those dark themes work i think by flipping black colors to white etc
so the more grey'er color of this theme means nothing will be gone gone ..maybe hard to read though.

ON-TOPIC
I got this PM..

Quote
You are gaining no trust with bashing on every secound altcoin there is. Nor does anyone try to "fight" you, most of the things you write here only makes you look like a joker / clown, dont take it personally man.

If you just invested all that time you are using to bash other peoples projects, you might had been a succesful dev yourself. Or rich by doing some research on what altcoin to short now and then. Keep on rocking man, I sure enjoy the show you makes from time to time. But it's getting overplayed now, less and less people care about what you are saying, no harsh feeling man. Had many laughs will reading threads made by you and all that drama some people can make over it.

Keep on trucking and enjoy life!

I hear that non stop.. every god damn fucking day  ::)

NOOBS.. Morons.. Know sweet fuck all about anything that goes on in the slightest in Crypto.
And you greedy noob naive brats don't know why the fuck we're posting this shit in the topic.. your fucking dumb and gullible and you need to get off your knee's !

Tired of these little idiots demanding i am a monster because they want their hyped up soft-clone scam coin to go up in value.

Yeah hey your a horrible fucking monster.. no offense of course.. signed some new shell/shill/dummy/garbage account LOL mmmhhhmmm riiiiight  ::)
and if you really did start this a week ago ?........ STFU you know nothing !

This is like the equivalent of trying to stop a crowd of stupid morons from bashing themslevs in the face with a hammer.
it's sad and pathetic.. and you know what greedy brats ?
We warn people for those that care..
many new investors will want all the info they can so they can decide which of the 1,000 soft-clone coin(s) to choose from (made by the same dozen guys)
posted on a forum that is abused with scammers <-- point the devs cloners ignore.

These dipshits are basically posting a babysitting job in a pedophiles forum then whining like idiots that they are getting scrutinized.
get a brain.. most of you are brain dead idiots !


Are you smart enough to recognize an analogy when you see one or do i have to hold your fucking hands and change your diaper and spell it out for you ?

want some advice ?
don't buy shit coins .  :o
..yeah skip the middle man and just send them your Bitcoin ..or better yet send it to me  8)

"dont take it personally"


Title: cum guzzling queen gags on cock and spits out HYP coin'z
Post by: Spoetnik on October 26, 2014, 11:08:44 AM
Any questions about HyperStake itself I would love to answer for you all. Please simply compile a basic bullet point list and I'll track down the answers no problem at all.  8)

Like what how i asked about how many coins there is ? why did you avoid putting that info and the truck-coin info in the ANN topic ?

I told you how i could help you calm the drama bad reputation for your coin and you said submit a github pull request LOL

i swear you only have animal symbols on your keyboard with symbols for Giraffe and Lama etc
and i swear you just mash away on the keys and hit the space bar when ever you think there should be a word.

and how is this Pool stuff now ?
so let me get this straight..

You mine a shit coin called Truck Coin (what ever the fuck that is)
Killed it off.. silence.
Then decided to take all those coins and IPO them on suckers with a brand new coin name.. while mining is closed / over now of course.
and now that you suckered people into buying them and the price is slipping your opening up a mining scheme now LOL

mining
no mining
back to mining again

moron cheerleaders defend it all, every semen soaked step of the way sponsored by Poloniex and now Cryptsy AHHAHAHHA

CLOWN-TASTIC ! - on your knee's and open wide for a big surprise HYP'sters  :o

edit:
You all should check out their other new campaign "Hyper Loans"
They put a Ponzi in your Ponzi for you little HYP'sters ..for extra special bonus Ponzi LOL
It's kind of like one of them Russian nesting dolls but a big Berni Madoff ...each layer is another even smaller Berni HYP scheme !


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 26, 2014, 12:19:53 PM

And via PM from David:
Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).

No grace.
What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.


You had no issues posting the PM's here to appease the "fake troll accounts", but confirming the legitimacy of them is somehow different?

By the way, my offer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9327653#msg9327653) to relinquish control of this account still stands. Too bad those PM's don't exist.
 

I WANTED HYP NOW!!!!

Spoken like a true professional!



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on October 26, 2014, 12:43:52 PM
i'm the trusted leader of online bussines in indonesia and previously a former senior research consultant
i will support HYP right now
so,if anyone don't like HYP and then they will got nothing
do not disparage indonesia.
indonesia is the big country and has huge market
most of my friends is the player of online bussines in internet.


Title: Re: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL scam tastic !
Post by: Deepanal on October 26, 2014, 01:00:35 PM
TruckCoin ? ahhahahha

nice find i had no idea..

no wonder after 1,000 convo's with those spamming bag holders they avoided mentioning that !
not even one fucking time did any of those fucking scummy fucktard scammers mention that..

thanks for the info i will make fucking damn sure people know about this scammy idiot bullshit !
they wouldn't have hid that info from me when i asked about the coin 100 fucking times unless they KNEW it was bad !

HYP tard's you are seriously fucked trust me ;)

This guy is a joke. It's easy to see why no one would listen to him. Too bad this FUD team cant find someone who has the ability to speak with intelligence and common sense. This joker makes himself look like such a fool. I actually enjoy reading his trash talk, simply because he has no substance to what he is saying. It's fun to watch this guy show his ass to everyone.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: thundertoe on October 26, 2014, 02:47:09 PM
Spoetnik, honey bunny, you're a funny fellow.

First off, you can go to http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/ like I told you for your coin numbers. It's not a scary site (I will hold your flipper if you want). Tranz uses it for HBN and CAP, see here:

http://hbn.cryptocoinexplorer.com/
http://cap.cryptocoinexplorer.com/

Now if you go to the HYP one, you will notice that there is a rich list with a *ton* of claimed addresses. I personally have never seen anything like this before :o

http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/rich

You can analyze these addresses all you want. Some users have performed interesting analysis on HYP, HBN, and CAP in my thread.

I leave you with a poem:

I'm in the milk and the milk's in me.
God Bless the milk and God Bless me!

Explain why anyone should be impressed from a richlist of a 100% premined coin?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 26, 2014, 04:15:09 PM
Looks like someone's been busy staking their 900,000+ HYP fraudulent pre-mine and made it past the 1,000,000 HYP mark ;)

Congratulations, David



http://media0.giphy.com/media/GCLlQnV7wzKLu/giphy.gif



Updated the OP





Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 26, 2014, 05:52:35 PM
I watch TEKs & wanted to buy. waited & waited for price coming down. Then price crash and i think i should buy. Then look at thread & lot of problems with wallet and biomek the dev did not fix. I have hypcoin now instead. Devs always fix problem  :-\

You think scam ---- i think good.

The technology side is good; the wallet is excellent.

It's the initial distribution and deception that make this a scam. A shame, really.

Two things, here, at Hypnotique.

One, my name is Biomech. It's an acronym from a long time ago for Biological Systems Maintenance Technician. It's come to mean a great deal more to me, to the point that it's my intent to make it my legal name.

Two, and you're not the first to make this mistake, I'm not the developer of TEK. I'm not even officially on the team. I am an avid supporter, I am friendly with the dev, and I do help out when I can. The same can be said of HyperStake. In neither case do I have any official involvement, but I do support it.

As for the accusations of malfeasance, I've known Presstab for quite a while. He's young, talented, eager, and sometimes temperamental. He's also pretty damned honest and always has been willing to help me when I hit a wall, especially with programming. Anyone following TRK was aware that he was planning to fork it and use the PRE EXISTING COINBASE as his initial distribution. We also knew he held a lot of TRK. To the best of my knowledge, the many TRK holder from before the fork who have NOT gone on to make a HYP wallet can still do so. (presstab can correct me if I'm wrong on that). I hold just shy of 6000 HYP, and am completely happy with where it has gone. I would have been happy with 1K satoshis. This was always an experiment, and Presstab has been excellent at implementing features that the user base has asked for. That so far the experiment has been vastly more successful than any of us envisioned does not make it a scam. Had it held to the postulates that most of us in at launch had discussed, by the time it made as much noise as it is now, Press would probably still be the number one holder, but it would be pretty even for the top 100 or so. Things moved fast. Not always a good thing, but there it is.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: CrazyLoaf on October 26, 2014, 06:30:59 PM
Spoetnik, honey bunny, you're a funny fellow.

First off, you can go to http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/ like I told you for your coin numbers. It's not a scary site (I will hold your flipper if you want). Tranz uses it for HBN and CAP, see here:

http://hbn.cryptocoinexplorer.com/
http://cap.cryptocoinexplorer.com/

Now if you go to the HYP one, you will notice that there is a rich list with a *ton* of claimed addresses. I personally have never seen anything like this before :o

http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/rich

You can analyze these addresses all you want. Some users have performed interesting analysis on HYP, HBN, and CAP in my thread.

I leave you with a poem:

I'm in the milk and the milk's in me.
God Bless the milk and God Bless me!

Explain why anyone should be impressed from a richlist of a 100% premined coin?

Haha, okay ThunderTROLL :P

One reason, at least they were willing to spend the $30 a month to have a richlist/blockexplorer that is always updated.

You're sitting on 160k-200k TEK and at the time I mentioned the HYP richlist to you, you wanted to do a community collection or something like that. The TEK blockx.info site wasn't working during a time when people were concerned about forks.

Also, let's take the 160k number. That's 5.4% of TEK. Presstab has 3.36% of HYP. But hey, at least he is willing to spend the massive $30 a month charge for the HYP blockexplorer (which is really a steal since I know dudes that charge $100-$150 a month for the same stuff).

Can't dump my TEK fast enough. Just buy me out if you have so much faith in your coin :P


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 26, 2014, 06:48:18 PM
ok so i think i will be launching my own coin and i will do exactly what the HYP dev did..
and i want to see how many of you defending HYP defend me and if Poloniex adds it too etc LOL

why do i get the feeling if i did the whole community would be after me with pitch-forks ?  :D

Go for it. I freely admit that I think you're  a pompous ass, but if you're as transparent as Presstab has been, I'll at least consider adoption and pay attention.

Also, let's be clear on something else that this thread is throwing around while clearly having not read the ANN thread's first page.

The code developer (for the most part) is presstab. David is pretty much the pr guy and idea man. Others who have contributed to the code, to what degree I don't know, are Zeewolf, I think iantunc, and a couple of others that I can't think of right now within the project, and Tranz from HBN on several occasions. Also, some of presstab's code has made it to HBN. This isn't being done "behind the scenes" or in a vacuum. If you think there should have been a longer period of development, well, you're opinion is not invalid. I kind of think that too. But it worked out well, and again, I see no deception other than by people in this thread who depend on troll boxes.

On every exchange I trade on, which is most of them, my first conscious action is to mute the damn troll box. Do you think it got that name because of the scintillating intellect of the participants?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 26, 2014, 07:16:24 PM
I watch TEKs & wanted to buy. waited & waited for price coming down. Then price crash and i think i should buy. Then look at thread & lot of problems with wallet and biomek the dev did not fix. I have hypcoin now instead. Devs always fix problem  :-\

You think scam ---- i think good.

The technology side is good; the wallet is excellent.

It's the initial distribution and deception that make this a scam. A shame, really.

Two things, here, at Hypnotique.

One, my name is Biomech. It's an acronym from a long time ago for Biological Systems Maintenance Technician. It's come to mean a great deal more to me, to the point that it's my intent to make it my legal name.

Two, and you're not the first to make this mistake, I'm not the developer of TEK. I'm not even officially on the team. I am an avid supporter, I am friendly with the dev, and I do help out when I can. The same can be said of HyperStake. In neither case do I have any official involvement, but I do support it.

As for the accusations of malfeasance, I've known Presstab for quite a while. He's young, talented, eager, and sometimes temperamental. He's also pretty damned honest and always has been willing to help me when I hit a wall, especially with programming. Anyone following TRK was aware that he was planning to fork it and use the PRE EXISTING COINBASE as his initial distribution. We also knew he held a lot of TRK. To the best of my knowledge, the many TRK holder from before the fork who have NOT gone on to make a HYP wallet can still do so. (presstab can correct me if I'm wrong on that). I hold just shy of 6000 HYP, and am completely happy with where it has gone. I would have been happy with 1K satoshis. This was always an experiment, and Presstab has been excellent at implementing features that the user base has asked for. That so far the experiment has been vastly more successful than any of us envisioned does not make it a scam. Had it held to the postulates that most of us in at launch had discussed, by the time it made as much noise as it is now, Press would probably still be the number one holder, but it would be pretty even for the top 100 or so. Things moved fast. Not always a good thing, but there it is.

Biomech,

Thanks for posting. I should say first that I know nothing of TEK or its dev team. So while i'm sure i've made many mistakes in life, i can say with certainty that mistaking you for one of the devs hasn't been one of them  :D

I'll stand by my post you've quoted above, the wallet is excellent. Coin control? Masterful... I don't doubt the many hours of work that went into it.

That said, your admission that there was talk of a fork in the TRK thread weeks ahead of time really doesn't help your argument. If the scam wasn't intentional, why not announce the HYP fork 2 weeks in advance? 1 week? 5 days? 3 days? No? How about 1 single day? Not even.
 


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: CrazyLoaf on October 26, 2014, 07:25:15 PM
I watch TEKs & wanted to buy. waited & waited for price coming down. Then price crash and i think i should buy. Then look at thread & lot of problems with wallet and biomek the dev did not fix. I have hypcoin now instead. Devs always fix problem  :-\

You think scam ---- i think good.

The technology side is good; the wallet is excellent.

It's the initial distribution and deception that make this a scam. A shame, really.

Two things, here, at Hypnotique.

One, my name is Biomech. It's an acronym from a long time ago for Biological Systems Maintenance Technician. It's come to mean a great deal more to me, to the point that it's my intent to make it my legal name.

Two, and you're not the first to make this mistake, I'm not the developer of TEK. I'm not even officially on the team. I am an avid supporter, I am friendly with the dev, and I do help out when I can. The same can be said of HyperStake. In neither case do I have any official involvement, but I do support it.

As for the accusations of malfeasance, I've known Presstab for quite a while. He's young, talented, eager, and sometimes temperamental. He's also pretty damned honest and always has been willing to help me when I hit a wall, especially with programming. Anyone following TRK was aware that he was planning to fork it and use the PRE EXISTING COINBASE as his initial distribution. We also knew he held a lot of TRK. To the best of my knowledge, the many TRK holder from before the fork who have NOT gone on to make a HYP wallet can still do so. (presstab can correct me if I'm wrong on that). I hold just shy of 6000 HYP, and am completely happy with where it has gone. I would have been happy with 1K satoshis. This was always an experiment, and Presstab has been excellent at implementing features that the user base has asked for. That so far the experiment has been vastly more successful than any of us envisioned does not make it a scam. Had it held to the postulates that most of us in at launch had discussed, by the time it made as much noise as it is now, Press would probably still be the number one holder, but it would be pretty even for the top 100 or so. Things moved fast. Not always a good thing, but there it is.

Biomech,

Thanks for posting. I should say first that I know nothing of TEK or its dev team. So while i'm sure i've made many mistakes in life, i can say with certainty that mistaking you for one of the devs hasn't been one of them  :D

I'll stand by my post you've quoted above, the wallet is excellent. Coin control? Masterful... I don't doubt the many hours of work that went into it.

That said, your admission that there was talk of a fork in the TRK thread weeks ahead of time really doesn't help your argument. If the scam wasn't intentional, why not announce the HYP fork 2 weeks in advance? 1 week? 5 days? 3 days? No? How about 1 single day? Not even.
 

Dude, just buy HYP or don't buy HYP. I like trolling as much as the next idiot, but what pleasure center are you tickling in your brain right now?

I bought HYP at 2k sat when BTC was $600+ post fork. I then continued to put in well over 10 BTC into HYP at higher sat price levels than that. I did the numbers a few days ago and HYP was like $0.012+ a coin post fork, and is like only roughly $0.017 several months later. Hardly massive growth at all.

But I know you're addicted to trolling like meth, so you'll just continue posting and since I've subscribed to this thread, I my spout some bullshit too every now and then :)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 26, 2014, 07:35:33 PM
I watch TEKs & wanted to buy. waited & waited for price coming down. Then price crash and i think i should buy. Then look at thread & lot of problems with wallet and biomek the dev did not fix. I have hypcoin now instead. Devs always fix problem  :-\

You think scam ---- i think good.

The technology side is good; the wallet is excellent.

It's the initial distribution and deception that make this a scam. A shame, really.

Two things, here, at Hypnotique.

One, my name is Biomech. It's an acronym from a long time ago for Biological Systems Maintenance Technician. It's come to mean a great deal more to me, to the point that it's my intent to make it my legal name.

Two, and you're not the first to make this mistake, I'm not the developer of TEK. I'm not even officially on the team. I am an avid supporter, I am friendly with the dev, and I do help out when I can. The same can be said of HyperStake. In neither case do I have any official involvement, but I do support it.

As for the accusations of malfeasance, I've known Presstab for quite a while. He's young, talented, eager, and sometimes temperamental. He's also pretty damned honest and always has been willing to help me when I hit a wall, especially with programming. Anyone following TRK was aware that he was planning to fork it and use the PRE EXISTING COINBASE as his initial distribution. We also knew he held a lot of TRK. To the best of my knowledge, the many TRK holder from before the fork who have NOT gone on to make a HYP wallet can still do so. (presstab can correct me if I'm wrong on that). I hold just shy of 6000 HYP, and am completely happy with where it has gone. I would have been happy with 1K satoshis. This was always an experiment, and Presstab has been excellent at implementing features that the user base has asked for. That so far the experiment has been vastly more successful than any of us envisioned does not make it a scam. Had it held to the postulates that most of us in at launch had discussed, by the time it made as much noise as it is now, Press would probably still be the number one holder, but it would be pretty even for the top 100 or so. Things moved fast. Not always a good thing, but there it is.

Biomech,

Thanks for posting. I should say first that I know nothing of TEK or its dev team. So while i'm sure i've made many mistakes in life, i can say with certainty that mistaking you for one of the devs hasn't been one of them  :D

I'll stand by my post you've quoted above, the wallet is excellent. Coin control? Masterful... I don't doubt the many hours of work that went into it.

That said, your admission that there was talk of a fork in the TRK thread weeks ahead of time really doesn't help your argument. If the scam wasn't intentional, why not announce the HYP fork 2 weeks in advance? 1 week? 5 days? 3 days? No? How about 1 single day? Not even.
 

Dude, just buy HYP or don't buy HYP. I like trolling as much as the next idiot, but what pleasure center are you tickling in your brain right now?

I bought HYP at 2k sat when BTC was $600+ post fork. I then continued to put in well over 10 BTC into HYP at higher sat price levels than that. I did the numbers a few days ago and HYP was like $0.012+ a coin post fork, and is like only roughly $0.017 several months later. Hardly massive growth at all.

But I know you're addicted to trolling like meth, so you'll just continue posting and since I've subscribed to this thread, I my spout some bullshit too every now and then :)

I was responding to Biomech. I'm actually tired of posting in this thread, I wish David or presstab would take me up on the offer to relinquish control of this account here. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9327653#msg9327653)

Also, I forgot to mention the editing of the fork date out of the present day ANN in my previous reply, which goes towards the deception.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 26, 2014, 07:40:17 PM
I watch TEKs & wanted to buy. waited & waited for price coming down. Then price crash and i think i should buy. Then look at thread & lot of problems with wallet and biomek the dev did not fix. I have hypcoin now instead. Devs always fix problem  :-\

You think scam ---- i think good.

The technology side is good; the wallet is excellent.

It's the initial distribution and deception that make this a scam. A shame, really.

Two things, here, at Hypnotique.

One, my name is Biomech. It's an acronym from a long time ago for Biological Systems Maintenance Technician. It's come to mean a great deal more to me, to the point that it's my intent to make it my legal name.

Two, and you're not the first to make this mistake, I'm not the developer of TEK. I'm not even officially on the team. I am an avid supporter, I am friendly with the dev, and I do help out when I can. The same can be said of HyperStake. In neither case do I have any official involvement, but I do support it.

As for the accusations of malfeasance, I've known Presstab for quite a while. He's young, talented, eager, and sometimes temperamental. He's also pretty damned honest and always has been willing to help me when I hit a wall, especially with programming. Anyone following TRK was aware that he was planning to fork it and use the PRE EXISTING COINBASE as his initial distribution. We also knew he held a lot of TRK. To the best of my knowledge, the many TRK holder from before the fork who have NOT gone on to make a HYP wallet can still do so. (presstab can correct me if I'm wrong on that). I hold just shy of 6000 HYP, and am completely happy with where it has gone. I would have been happy with 1K satoshis. This was always an experiment, and Presstab has been excellent at implementing features that the user base has asked for. That so far the experiment has been vastly more successful than any of us envisioned does not make it a scam. Had it held to the postulates that most of us in at launch had discussed, by the time it made as much noise as it is now, Press would probably still be the number one holder, but it would be pretty even for the top 100 or so. Things moved fast. Not always a good thing, but there it is.

Biomech,

Thanks for posting. I should say first that I know nothing of TEK or its dev team. So while i'm sure i've made many mistakes in life, i can say with certainty that mistaking you for one of the devs hasn't been one of them  :D

Oops, that was my mistake, it was the other guy :D
Quote

I'll stand by my post you've quoted above, the wallet is excellent. Coin control? Masterful... I don't doubt the many hours of work that went into it.

That said, your admission that there was talk of a fork in the TRK thread weeks ahead of time really doesn't help your argument. If the scam wasn't intentional, why not announce the HYP fork 2 weeks in advance? 1 week? 5 days? 3 days? No? How about 1 single day? Not even.
 

actually I didn't mention a timeframe. I was first aware of it the day before it happened, because someone, who I honestly don't recall right now, pointed me at it as they knew I was something of a fan of Presstab's work. He really prettied up the TEK wallet, and had, as I mentioned, helped me with a number of knowledge issues regarding compiling wallets, and Linux in general. But in going back through the thread, I saw him and a few others talking about doing something like HYP roughly 5 days before he did it. I'm working from memory here, so that's not likely accurate.

I bought in with BTC shortly before the launch, and I did a private trade of TEK for HYP for the rest of my beginning stake. You can see the details of that in my trust ratings, because the gentleman I dealt with was kind enough to give me positive rating for a transaction that went well for both of us.

What you won't see is that during an emergency I sold the bulk of my holdings for 1800 sats apiece, which I did indeed profit off of (as far as the coin goes, IRL it was a loss because, well, that's the nature of emergencies). My current holdings are all from staking, and I have been at a theoretical positive ROI for quite some time. As I have no intention of selling until and unless I reach above 15K HYP, the profits on my current holdings remain theoretical. But my support for the dev team remains solid. Have they done everything right? No. Have they been transparent in what they are doing all along? Yes. Am I biased by my ongoing friendship with Presstab? Again, yes, but I still believe that my analysis is as objective as yours, at the very least. I have become quite friendly with David in the course of this, but prior to HyperStake, I had only ever interacted with him on the TEK thread, and not very much even then. I only learned he was French after the launch of HYP. Sorry David, but you're the first frenchman who hasn't pissed me off :D

I am not concerned that the dev team are the highest holders. I actually like that, because it gives them incentive to keep things moving. I encourage everyone to do their own due dilligence on ANY investment. I got into this one with the expectation that I would lose everything. I did it for fun, and because of my friendship with Presstab. That instead, I have profited and continue to do so? I'm totally good with that. It could have and maybe should have gone the other way. But that is the nature of an experiment.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 26, 2014, 07:47:53 PM
Also, I forgot to mention the editing of the fork date out of the present day ANN in my previous reply, which goes towards the deception.

Just read the thread, holy shit buddy.

David, presstab.. have you decided which moderator or trusted community member will be verifying the existence of the PM's you posted?

If the PM's are confirmed legitimate, I will relinquish control of this Hypnotique account to the mod/community member.

They are of course legitimate. And your offer is cute, a new thread and sock puppet will be created and it will all start over. Nobody cares, and all of the accusations have been answered. Get over it.

iantunc, bottom line is if these guys were honest they wouldn't try to bury information like they've done by editing out the fork date in the ANN.. This kind of behaviour screams scam and if you can't hear it, it's because you don't want to listen.

presstab's response in this thread pretty much amounts to "oops, coulda woulda shoulda.. didn't know HYP would be so big" riiight.. He's the cliche super friendly leader in the trollbox, tipping people for the stupidest reasons etc. This is again typical scam behavior. Spend some time in the polo box and see how quickly his attitude becomes ugly when anyone questions his beloved HyperScam, and watch as the henchmen David & Co. begin to appear in the box to defend their shitcoin.

I wish I could just get you to read the OP that you seem to know so much about. You can actually read the forking taking place.... and how it took longer than expected (thus the change in time).  And also I am sorry if I am too friendly and have too much fun with the friends I have made in crypto... ??? lol this is getting better by the moment buddy.


Update for everyone... The mature block I was saving to stake the forked block with... acidentally staked a few blocks before the fork time - just our luck.

I have a block that is less stake weight that is competing with the network to stake and once it gets the stake it should fork it with the new value.  Feel free to also try to get the first forked block. You can use my version of the .exe - right now it still uses the truckcoin appdata directory, so back it up first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please beware this is just a temporary version of the wallet.

Use at your own risk - and startup with the switch -connect=192.241.233.70

REMOVED

How do we know when the coin has forked? And do we have an ETA on a complied Windows wallet? I do not know how to do that stuff myself.

Right now they are both still the same coin. I had a block ready to stake right away but I accidentally let it stake right before the switch in the code. So now I have to wait for the next stake.

It could take an hour or it could take a day. So just be patient for now and check back in a bit. I have to be AFK for a few hours and will check back to see if it finally stakes.

Anyone else with mature blocks can attempt to fork with the new wallet as well.

With the most recent commit you will need to connect to the node I listed above in order to get any connections. We are waiting at block 31716 until we generate our own HYP block 31717. We have mature blocks be hashed, not sure how long it will take. We might even have to do some updates to the code to get it to take the updates easier.

The TRK is still moving so if you are passed block 31716 you are on TRK.

All other builds are now somewhat obsolete as they aren't able to connect to the update client unless rebuilt.  So just sit back and relax and check back in a day.  You aren't missing out on any action trust me.


So should we hold off selling our TRK coins for now or can we sell them if we want (have wallet.dat file saved)?

Hold you TRK until we have the first block.

Does this mean people could still buy TRK and get HYP?

Well right now we are on block 31716 for HYP and TRK is passed that.  So right now anything on the TRK chain is already passed that block and won't carry over.  We are trying to fork from this block, but I am not going to promise anything.

Alright the moment we have all been waiting for!! Block 31781 is a HYP block, its own chain will be maintained from here. And as you can see I hit the max subsidy!!  It is working folks.  The wallet still sucks! I know this and will roll out some changes on it and sort out the datadir issue. Enjoy HyperStakers!!


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 26, 2014, 08:34:56 PM
I bought HYP at 2k sat when BTC was $600+ post fork. I then continued to put in well over 10 BTC into HYP at higher sat price levels than that. I did the numbers a few days ago and HYP was like $0.012+ a coin post fork, and is like only roughly $0.017 several months later. Hardly massive growth at all.

Did you want to check your numbers again or should i go straight to posting screenshots making you look stupid?

Hint: the last time BTC was $600 was end of July. The first time HYP hit 2k sat was mid September.

You HYP bagholders are another breed entirely.

https://i.imgur.com/Mfm8MSu.gif


Title: Monero + HYP Clowns = ROFL'z
Post by: Spoetnik on October 26, 2014, 08:43:17 PM
I watch TEKs & wanted to buy. waited & waited for price coming down. Then price crash and i think i should buy. Then look at thread & lot of problems with wallet and biomek the dev did not fix. I have hypcoin now instead. Devs always fix problem  :-\

You think scam ---- i think good.

The technology side is good; the wallet is excellent.

It's the initial distribution and deception that make this a scam. A shame, really.

Two things, here, at Hypnotique.

One, my name is Biomech. It's an acronym from a long time ago for Biological Systems Maintenance Technician. It's come to mean a great deal more to me, to the point that it's my intent to make it my legal name.

Two, and you're not the first to make this mistake, I'm not the developer of TEK. I'm not even officially on the team. I am an avid supporter, I am friendly with the dev, and I do help out when I can. The same can be said of HyperStake. In neither case do I have any official involvement, but I do support it.

As for the accusations of malfeasance, I've known Presstab for quite a while. He's young, talented, eager, and sometimes temperamental. He's also pretty damned honest and always has been willing to help me when I hit a wall, especially with programming. Anyone following TRK was aware that he was planning to fork it and use the PRE EXISTING COINBASE as his initial distribution. We also knew he held a lot of TRK. To the best of my knowledge, the many TRK holder from before the fork who have NOT gone on to make a HYP wallet can still do so. (presstab can correct me if I'm wrong on that). I hold just shy of 6000 HYP, and am completely happy with where it has gone. I would have been happy with 1K satoshis. This was always an experiment, and Presstab has been excellent at implementing features that the user base has asked for. That so far the experiment has been vastly more successful than any of us envisioned does not make it a scam. Had it held to the postulates that most of us in at launch had discussed, by the time it made as much noise as it is now, Press would probably still be the number one holder, but it would be pretty even for the top 100 or so. Things moved fast. Not always a good thing, but there it is.

problem people are not honest.. you think he's being honest but i had my own brother say to me doing this shit..
Fuck Bitcoin i want to make a profit (when i gave him $900+ bucks in coins)
he said he does not give two fucking shits about any stupid crypto crap.. he wants to make MONEY ! $$$ PERIOD !
and is he the only one ?.. nooooooope
let's not play stupid little innocent games here.. it won't work you talking to other guys who want to make money and will not buy the sorry excuse.

2nd of all most of us never heard of Truckcoin so that fuck ups your story here bad LOL
anyone that heard about HYP had to go and see it came from Truck Coin which was long gone..
i will post what i just did to another guy here via pm a minute ago..

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hey.. one of the key issues and pretty much the main point of that Hypstake topic
is that Hypnotique pointed out how the announcement was for a Truck Coin transfer
at pretty much the same exact time..

that would be like me taking IFC or CENT or some other coin and announcing on the spot
with no warning that it is now some other coin but far more rare and you can't mine them.. buy them on Poloniex only LOL
and did the dev's etc buy them AFTER like every else had to ? of course not ahahha
they got them free basically and they got lots !
and then the more you dig because of their massive spamming the more details you find making it look worse and worse

People should feel cheated !

any other guys that "work on all sorts of coins" that want to chime in lol
and i don't suppose your all going to put a happy go lucky positive spin on those 1,000+ coins you all worked on huh ?

If you want to take an old coin and do what they did they should have announced and left it for a month or something
and THEN advertised it like they did afterwards..
Notice how they hijack the chat box at poloniex and bump the ANN topic etc non stop AFTER the did the transfer from
some unknown dead shit coin none of us heard of ? get it ?
Whisper whisper.. truck coin.. and guys had an hour to try and get Truck coins then the hr passed and they are YELLING HYP
and no truck coins can be found LOL

feel free to put a spin on things though guys it amuses my fucking balls off that you want to so desperately insult all our intelligence for some "FUN" experimental Bitcoin Profit
Next time maybe consider doing your experiment on Test Net instead of on noobs pockets with a scam that is designed to fail from the start..
HOW ?
You mean to tell me all of you that have worked on code for POS are unaware that super mega high POS percentage earnings will Kill the coin ?
you coders out there know damn well this is happening and SOON !

What kind of an "experiment" is is making an artificially rare coin that was 100% premined privately with the public not given a chance to get any
and then adding HIGH stake percentages you know damn will will kill the coin later as more coins get staked turning the rare coin into a mass produced one.
How is it an experiment when you KNOW what the end result is ? ....Lambo's for the Richlist LOL
So why guys, have they slipped in that keyword non fucking stop ? "experiment" is your disclaimer to absolve them of any wrong doing when it crashes and burns later
like they KNOW it will ! ..why else it mentioned so fan much ? think about it !

@Biomech, You said..
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so far the experiment has been vastly more successful than any of us envisioned

SO FAR !
But you guys know damn well a brick wall is coming and a lot of these poor sap's are going to get burned and guess what ?
Your fun little "experiment" is going to have profited you guys a fucking massive huge fortune in Bitcoin profits !
so yeah fucking wonder your smiling saying it's been a success.. gimme a fuuuuuucking break  ::)

You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

I would not touch this shit no matter how many times presstab has offered me bribery coins on Poloniex's chat box in front of everyone !
I have made virtually no effort at all to dig up info on this coin and have run into sleazy point after point and i didn't even go looking *yet ! AHHAHHAH
the more you dig the worse it looks..

and most of you are admittedly scam coins supporters so just carry on.. don't mind me i am talking to people who care and contribute with Crypto..
you greedy selfish corrupt scammers can on with $$$ experiment business..
and yeah it is fun turning 5 bucks in dead coins into 50 Bitcoin profit from Noobs who had to take money from their banks to pay you.. ya i bet that's fun LOL


Title: Re: Cryptsy - Time for Paul Vernon To Come Clean About a LOT of things
Post by: Spoetnik on October 26, 2014, 08:54:41 PM
By the way super mass coin cloner Shakezulu has in the past been caught repeating Experiment and Fun and profit as an excuse for his coins too
and look where the POS coins came from ;)
kinda funny how some guy made the first coin control features says the same shit but popped up with a different account admitting to making an alternate batch of shit coins
but not the ones that went bad such as CENT with a virus or HBN or CAP's or or or roororor and notice all those were pretty much Cryptsy staff coins ?
cough cough CASH LOL

i see you busted red handed your here making the same shit and talking the same way word for word and the other guy went into hiding many many months ago..
AND all of cryptsy staff have kept telling me that some other unknown mysterious stranger took over all of those Shakezule coins LOLOLOLOLOL riiiiiight
i could go on but i want you idiots to think i don't know who you are to lure you out so i can get more info to crush you later with ;)

lemme say.. CRYPTSY did not have the facilities to push a coin like this on their exchange ready so it's obvious their back room boys crew
went to Poloniex.. and now look ;)
same old scammer guys just a non stop tsunami of user accounts lol

a few you better start sweating ;)


Title: Re: Monero + HYP Clowns = ROFL'z
Post by: Deepanal on October 26, 2014, 08:55:25 PM
I watch TEKs & wanted to buy. waited & waited for price coming down. Then price crash and i think i should buy. Then look at thread & lot of problems with wallet and biomek the dev did not fix. I have hypcoin now instead. Devs always fix problem  :-\

You think scam ---- i think good.

The technology side is good; the wallet is excellent.

It's the initial distribution and deception that make this a scam. A shame, really.

Two things, here, at Hypnotique.

One, my name is Biomech. It's an acronym from a long time ago for Biological Systems Maintenance Technician. It's come to mean a great deal more to me, to the point that it's my intent to make it my legal name.

Two, and you're not the first to make this mistake, I'm not the developer of TEK. I'm not even officially on the team. I am an avid supporter, I am friendly with the dev, and I do help out when I can. The same can be said of HyperStake. In neither case do I have any official involvement, but I do support it.

As for the accusations of malfeasance, I've known Presstab for quite a while. He's young, talented, eager, and sometimes temperamental. He's also pretty damned honest and always has been willing to help me when I hit a wall, especially with programming. Anyone following TRK was aware that he was planning to fork it and use the PRE EXISTING COINBASE as his initial distribution. We also knew he held a lot of TRK. To the best of my knowledge, the many TRK holder from before the fork who have NOT gone on to make a HYP wallet can still do so. (presstab can correct me if I'm wrong on that). I hold just shy of 6000 HYP, and am completely happy with where it has gone. I would have been happy with 1K satoshis. This was always an experiment, and Presstab has been excellent at implementing features that the user base has asked for. That so far the experiment has been vastly more successful than any of us envisioned does not make it a scam. Had it held to the postulates that most of us in at launch had discussed, by the time it made as much noise as it is now, Press would probably still be the number one holder, but it would be pretty even for the top 100 or so. Things moved fast. Not always a good thing, but there it is.

problem people are not honest.. you think he's being honest but i had my own brother say to me doing this shit..
Fuck Bitcoin i want to make a profit (when i gave him $900+ bucks in coins)
he said he does not give two fucking shits about any stupid crypto crap.. he wants to make MONEY ! $$$ PERIOD !
and is he the only one ?.. nooooooope
let's not play stupid little innocent games here.. it won't work you talking to other guys who want to make money and will not buy the sorry excuse.

2nd of all most of us never heard of Truckcoin so that fuck ups your story here bad LOL
anyone that heard about HYP had to go and see it came from Truck Coin which was long gone..
i will post what i just did to another guy here via pm a minute ago..

Quote
hey.. one of the key issues and pretty much the main point of that Hypstake topic
is that Hypnotique pointed out how the announcement was for a Truck Coin transfer
at pretty much the same exact time..

that would be like me taking IFC or CENT or some other coin and announcing on the spot
with no warning that it is now some other coin but far more rare and you can't mine them.. buy them on Poloniex only LOL
and did the dev's etc buy them AFTER like every else had to ? of course not ahahha
they got them free basically and they got lots !
and then the more you dig because of their massive spamming the more details you find making it look worse and worse

People should feel cheated !

any other guys that "work on all sorts of coins" that want to chime in lol
and i don't suppose your all going to put a happy go lucky positive spin on those 1,000+ coins you all worked on huh ?

If you want to take an old coin and do what they did they should have announced and left it for a month or something
and THEN advertised it like they did afterwards..
Notice how they hijack the chat box at poloniex and bump the ANN topic etc non stop AFTER the did the transfer from
some unknown dead shit coin none of us heard of ? get it ?
Whisper whisper.. truck coin.. and guys had an hour to try and get Truck coins then the hr passed and they are YELLING HYP
and no truck coins can be found LOL

feel free to put a spin on things though guys it amuses my fucking balls off that you want to so desperately insult all our intelligence for some "FUN" experimental Bitcoin Profit
Next time maybe consider doing your experiment on Test Net instead of on noobs pockets with a scam that is designed to fail from the start..
HOW ?
You mean to tell me all of you that have worked on code for POS are unaware that super mega high POS percentage earnings will Kill the coin ?
you coders out there know damn well this is happening and SOON !

What kind of an "experiment" is is making an artificially rare coin that was 100% premined privately with the public not given a chance to get any
and then adding HIGH stake percentages you know damn will will kill the coin later as more coins get staked turning the rare coin into a mass produced one.
How is it an experiment when you KNOW what the end result is ? ....Lambo's for the Richlist LOL
So why guys, have they slipped in that keyword non fucking stop ? "experiment" is your disclaimer to absolve them of any wrong doing when it crashes and burns later
like they KNOW it will ! ..why else it mentioned so fan much ? think about it !

@Biomech, You said..
Quote
so far the experiment has been vastly more successful than any of us envisioned

SO FAR !
But you guys know damn well a brick wall is coming and a lot of these poor sap's are going to get burned and guess what ?
Your fun little "experiment" is going to have profited you guys a fucking massive huge fortune in Bitcoin profits !
so yeah fucking wonder your smiling saying it's been a success.. gimme a fuuuuuucking break  ::)

You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

I would not touch this shit no matter how many times presstab has offered me bribery coins on Poloniex's chat box in front of everyone !
I have made virtually no effort at all to dig up info on this coin and have run into sleazy point after point and i didn't even go looking *yet ! AHHAHHAH
the more you dig the worse it looks..

and most of you are admittedly scam coins supporters so just carry on.. don't mind me i am talking to people who care and contribute with Crypto..
you greedy selfish corrupt scammers can on with $$$ experiment business..
and yeah it is fun turning 5 bucks in dead coins into 50 Bitcoin profit from Noobs who had to take money from their banks to pay you.. ya i bet that's fun LOL

You sound like such an idiot, it's shocking. I can honestly say I have never read anyone post such dumb shit  consistently in my life. Please, continue posting your moronic comments. It's very entertaining!


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Zombier0 on October 26, 2014, 09:03:41 PM
Mosty poloniex adds coins from same people of their circle.you trade there u feed pockets of same people


Title: Re: Monero + HYP Clowns = ROFL'z
Post by: Biomech on October 26, 2014, 09:13:48 PM
some long winded shit pointing fingers, see above

Spoetnik, I have refrained from replying to you for a long time, because you post.. like a politician. You take just enough truth to make yourself look educated on a subject, spin it like a fucking centrifuge, spit it out, and pretend LOUDLY that you're doing no such thing.

I answered Hypnotique politely because he was polite to me. I'm answering you sarcasticly because it's what I'm best at, and on your best day you are a two bit amateur. Feel free to point out my logical fallacies. The first one likely to come to mind is argumentum ad-hominem. Guilty. But in this case, it's not a logical fallacy because your WELL KNOWN character is, in fact, at issue.

I should be ashamed of myself? No, I should not. I took a risk knowing it was a risk, and I won. Oh, horrible me.

Truck coin was indeed an obscure coin, abandoned by it's developer. I can say that of about, oh, 700 alts right now. Are they all scams? Some, certainly. More of them, just plain incompetence. If I were to make accusations against ANY of them, I would for damn sure do my research.

First, shortly after HYP was forked from TRK, noise23 took control of that coin, and has somewhat revived it. Gonna call him a scammer too? Or is that just for the ones that gain the mainstream that aren't bitcoin or a clear gamble like your favorites? I won't say anything bad about your favorites, because I have no evidence and little knowledge of them.

When you say things in public that you cannot back, even if you're right but can't prove it, there is a legal tort involved. That tort is libel. Careful where you tread, as you are defaming people willy-nilly for nothing more than being investors. Yes, me. My actual identity is easy to find. I've used the name Biomech since several years prior to the creation of the World Wide Web, and it has long been associated with my real name. DO NOT accuse me of being a scammer. I take my rep serious, and you WILL retract that.

Let me give you a clue. On both this forum and several dedicated websites, the greatest of which is Google, there is a SEARCH function. Do NOT rely on Troll boxes, though to all appearances you belong on them, nor on your psychic sense (since you seem to know the motives of everyone) because none of these are particularly useful.

All coins currently out there either trade against Bitcoin or USD or other fiat. This is the way of things. At some point a coin will break out of that, most likely. That's the grand goal. To single out a coin BECAUSE it trades to bitcoin is more than merely disingenuous, it's outright lying. ALL altcoins trade against bitcoin. All of them.

We all have our favorites. Some, for no good reason, some for reasons that YOU might not understand or approve of. Your stance as the defender of the weak, newbie, etc. simply doesn't hold. I've read many posts from you over the time I've been on this forum, and it's absolutely always cocksure, self aggrandizing braggadocio. Alright, Always is hyperbole, but the few that it's not true of would barely fill a 800X600 page. I've yet to see EVEN ONE post from you that was helpful. And I've been here six months longer than my join date, because I do take my own advice. I lurked for a long time so as not to look like a fool when I did start posting. I failed in that, but I at least didn't make a complete ass of myself. You cannot say the same. Not honestly.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: TaunSew on October 26, 2014, 09:29:31 PM
What was Spoetnik's role in this coin?   ???


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 26, 2014, 09:35:10 PM

Go ahead and make me look stupid. I don't give a rat's ass what you do :P

EDIT: Oh wait, you're the dumbass. I said I paid OTC for HYP 2k sat. Go check the OTC board and you can see if you really care.

Show me where you said OTC. I'll wait.

Now you're saying you paid 2k sats per coin after the July 6 fork, and continued to pay >2k for your coins even though the exchanges hovered between 500-1000 sats until mid September?

Either way, this is besides the point. Let's move on


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 26, 2014, 09:36:04 PM
What was Spoetnik's role in this coin?   ???

His usual involvement. Self aggrandizement and FUD.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 26, 2014, 09:54:46 PM
Hmm now a freshly created account is trying to extort me. Come on guys. Grow up and get a real job.

https://i.imgur.com/zcIeRQL.jpg


Title: Re: Monero + HYP Clowns = ROFL'z
Post by: Spoetnik on October 26, 2014, 10:06:22 PM
some long winded shit pointing fingers, see above

Spoetnik, I have refrained from replying to you for a long time, because you post.. like a politician. You take just enough truth to make yourself look educated on a subject, spin it like a fucking centrifuge, spit it out, and pretend LOUDLY that you're doing no such thing.

I answered Hypnotique politely because he was polite to me. I'm answering you sarcasticly because it's what I'm best at, and on your best day you are a two bit amateur.

i don't have to be polite to you your responsible for pushing out Ponzi's out your coin cloning factory door..

And i was just saying your putting a spin on things.. maybe 5 times so don't copy cat what i say and try and use it on me.
what i posted was the truth and i have to be careful what i say because you cowards Troll me non stop pick apart every word i said non stop 24/7 trying to discredit me.
..with a tons of various alternate accounts  ::)

being polite to scammers who cause a diversion is not on my high priority list.. i like how you dodge every thing i said i earlier LOL

being nice while you rip people off is the name of the game i know ;)

and i did not quote the rest of what you said because i didn't even read it... i don't give a fuck what some lippy COCKY coin cloner thinks..
your a cancer on our scene and your going to have to leave.. and i will make sure of it one way or another scammer(s)  !
Get out of MY Altcoin scene !

watch your ass.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 26, 2014, 10:10:25 PM
What was Spoetnik's role in this coin?   ???

I am flattered you want to give me ALL the credit but you will notice i did not MAKE the topic here
and.. i was not the only one who helped expose this scam coin !
get it ?
or do i have to spell it out for you genius's here ?

give props where they are due guys ;)

if you don't know who to credit re-read the topic from start to finish please..
and i will warn ya.. you mess with the Penguin you get the full AK clip  8)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: thundertoe on October 26, 2014, 10:17:40 PM
Spoetnik, honey bunny, you're a funny fellow.

First off, you can go to http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/ like I told you for your coin numbers. It's not a scary site (I will hold your flipper if you want). Tranz uses it for HBN and CAP, see here:

http://hbn.cryptocoinexplorer.com/
http://cap.cryptocoinexplorer.com/

Now if you go to the HYP one, you will notice that there is a rich list with a *ton* of claimed addresses. I personally have never seen anything like this before :o

http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/rich

You can analyze these addresses all you want. Some users have performed interesting analysis on HYP, HBN, and CAP in my thread.

I leave you with a poem:

I'm in the milk and the milk's in me.
God Bless the milk and God Bless me!

Explain why anyone should be impressed from a richlist of a 100% premined coin?

Haha, okay ThunderTROLL :P

One reason, at least they were willing to spend the $30 a month to have a richlist/blockexplorer that is always updated.

You're sitting on 160k-200k TEK and at the time I mentioned the HYP richlist to you, you wanted to do a community collection or something like that. The TEK blockx.info site wasn't working during a time when people were concerned about forks.

Also, let's take the 160k number. That's 5.4% of TEK. Presstab has 3.36% of HYP. But hey, at least he is willing to spend the massive $30 a month charge for the HYP blockexplorer (which is really a steal since I know dudes that charge $100-$150 a month for the same stuff).

Can't dump my TEK fast enough. Just buy me out if you have so much faith in your coin :P

i bought 5.4% with cash or mined and staked it.. his cost... nothing. I spend money on Tek when i can, buying coins or funding work, want more feel free to contribute with something other than complaints.

Also this is irrelevant to why i should be impressed with anyone being on a richlist of a 100% premined coin.

I wouldn't expect a fair argument from somebody that writes investment threads for high interest coins and cant even calculate compound correctly.(multiple times wrongly stating that TEK pays a much higher yearly compound rate over hyper).



Title: Re: Monero + HYP Clowns = ROFL'z
Post by: Biomech on October 26, 2014, 10:19:21 PM
some long winded shit pointing fingers, see above

Spoetnik, I have refrained from replying to you for a long time, because you post.. like a politician. You take just enough truth to make yourself look educated on a subject, spin it like a fucking centrifuge, spit it out, and pretend LOUDLY that you're doing no such thing.

I answered Hypnotique politely because he was polite to me. I'm answering you sarcasticly because it's what I'm best at, and on your best day you are a two bit amateur.

i don't have to be polite to you your responsible for pushing out Ponzi's out your coin cloning factory door..

And i was just saying your putting a spin on things.. maybe 5 times so don't copy cat what i say and try and use it on me.
what i posted was the truth and i have to be careful what i say because you cowards Troll me non stop pick apart every word i said non stop 24/7 trying to discredit me.
..with a tons of various alternate accounts  ::)

being polite to scammers who cause a diversion is not on my high priority list.. i like how you dodge every thing i said i earlier LOL

being nice while you rip people off is the name of the game i know ;)

and i did not quote the rest of what you said because i didn't even read it... i don't give a fuck what some lippy COCKY coin cloner thinks..
your a cancer on our scene and your going to have to leave.. and i will make sure of it one way or another scammer(s)  !
Get out of MY Altcoin scene !

watch your ass.

My ass is clean, and I'm not a developer or a cloner. Try again. Try HARDER. You just justified everything I said.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 26, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
What was Spoetnik's role in this coin?   ???

I am flattered you want to give me ALL the credit but you will notice i did not MAKE the topic here
and.. i was not the only one who helped expose this scam coin !
get it ?
or do i have to spell it out for you genius's here ?

give props where they are due guys ;)

if you don't know who to credit re-read the topic from start to finish please..
and i will warn ya.. you mess with the Penguin you get the full AK clip  8)

Alright, just for shits and giggles, since you're an "expert" in all things..
How many bullets in the standard AK clip, What year was the gun introduced, what is it's caliber, and how many moving parts does it have?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: CrazyLoaf on October 26, 2014, 10:31:52 PM
Spoetnik, honey bunny, you're a funny fellow.

First off, you can go to http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/ like I told you for your coin numbers. It's not a scary site (I will hold your flipper if you want). Tranz uses it for HBN and CAP, see here:

http://hbn.cryptocoinexplorer.com/
http://cap.cryptocoinexplorer.com/

Now if you go to the HYP one, you will notice that there is a rich list with a *ton* of claimed addresses. I personally have never seen anything like this before :o

http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/rich

You can analyze these addresses all you want. Some users have performed interesting analysis on HYP, HBN, and CAP in my thread.

I leave you with a poem:

I'm in the milk and the milk's in me.
God Bless the milk and God Bless me!

Explain why anyone should be impressed from a richlist of a 100% premined coin?

Haha, okay ThunderTROLL :P

One reason, at least they were willing to spend the $30 a month to have a richlist/blockexplorer that is always updated.

You're sitting on 160k-200k TEK and at the time I mentioned the HYP richlist to you, you wanted to do a community collection or something like that. The TEK blockx.info site wasn't working during a time when people were concerned about forks.

Also, let's take the 160k number. That's 5.4% of TEK. Presstab has 3.36% of HYP. But hey, at least he is willing to spend the massive $30 a month charge for the HYP blockexplorer (which is really a steal since I know dudes that charge $100-$150 a month for the same stuff).

Can't dump my TEK fast enough. Just buy me out if you have so much faith in your coin :P

i bought 5.4% with cash or mined and staked it.. his cost... nothing. I spend money on Tek when i can, buying coins or funding work, want more feel free to contribute with something other than complaints.

Also this is irrelevant to why i should be impressed with anyone being on a richlist of a 100% premined coin.

I wouldn't expect a fair argument from somebody that writes investment threads for high interest coins and cant even calculate compound correctly.(multiple times wrongly stating that TEK pays a much higher yearly compound rate over hyper).



Yeah, well I'm removing your piece of shit coin off that thread. Was looking for just some fun coins, but uncover asshats like you ;)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 26, 2014, 10:41:04 PM
Hmm now a freshly created account is trying to extort me. Come on guys. Grow up and get a real job.

https://i.imgur.com/zcIeRQL.jpg

Isn't that David Latapie's HYP address?  :o





Title: Step up or STFU .
Post by: Spoetnik on October 26, 2014, 10:44:45 PM
What was Spoetnik's role in this coin?   ???

I am flattered you want to give me ALL the credit but you will notice i did not MAKE the topic here
and.. i was not the only one who helped expose this scam coin !
get it ?
or do i have to spell it out for you genius's here ?

give props where they are due guys ;)

if you don't know who to credit re-read the topic from start to finish please..
and i will warn ya.. you mess with the Penguin you get the full AK clip  8)

Alright, just for shits and giggles, since you're an "expert" in all things..
How many bullets in the standard AK clip, What year was the gun introduced, what is it's caliber, and how many moving parts does it have?

address what i said earlier instead of attacking me personally.. REAL SIMPLE talk about HYP and its internal workings etc.
cut the crap playing games calling me a FUD'er etc.. leave that to the morons with the intellect of a sack of rocks, i expect better from you.

do me a favor and just address one single point i made earlier you dodged..

YOU KNOW THE COIN IS DOOMED !
Why ? = High Stake !
You know that in time there is going to be TOO MANY coins and the dumping for profit can not sustain the price. = crash with investors losing a lot of BTC !
Especially when the Richlist dump hard leaving these other small time guys holding the worthless bag.

form worthless shit coin TruckCoin to super valuable HYP coin and then later back to worthless coin again..
only difference is who stands in the middle raking in massive Bitcoin profits taken from a LOT of small time investors Bank accounts !

cocky ? smart guy ? know more about this than i do ?
put your HYP coins where your mouth is and step up and back up your mouth !

and tell these small time investors how no matter how man coins are SUPER Staked the price will keep going up.
how a 750% stake is a smart idea.. do it !
Lets hear how smart you guys are ;)

and tell these small time investors how your "experiment" disclaimer you keep posting every few minutes HAD to be set up using their Bitcoin
..instead of Test Net

Edit:
I will invest in Butter's Creamy Goo Sport Drink instead.. best served at room temperature.
I'd rather drink cum from a bottle than HYP scammers cocks !


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 26, 2014, 10:46:16 PM
Hmm now a freshly created account is trying to extort me. Come on guys. Grow up and get a real job.

https://i.imgur.com/zcIeRQL.jpg

Isn't that David Latapie's HYP address?  :o





Not according to the richlist.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 26, 2014, 10:47:20 PM
Hmm now a freshly created account is trying to extort me. Come on guys. Grow up and get a real job.

https://i.imgur.com/zcIeRQL.jpg

Isn't that David Latapie's HYP address?  :o


No, you must have copy and pasted the wrong address

https://i.imgur.com/nRjPxAe.jpg


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 26, 2014, 10:48:54 PM
I'm actually tired of posting in this thread

Why you still posting? Just curious?


Title: class action lawsuit ?
Post by: Spoetnik on October 26, 2014, 10:58:20 PM
@Biomech

You proclaimed earlier that the HYP ponzi "Experiment" was a success.... already  ::)

Don't you think you should give it a little more time until you call it ?
Like what about all those POS coins coming in to exchanges eventually ?

I don't think you waited LONG ENOUGH before branding HYP a success LOL
as a matter of fact, i think saying that is grossly irresponsible and bordering on deceitful when you KNOW better ;)

Guys you may have grounds for a lawsuit again these guys when it crashes hard ahhaha

edit:
and by the way another deceptive marketing tactic used on the ANN page is the coins start date ;)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 26, 2014, 11:05:36 PM
I'm actually tired of posting in this thread

Why you still posting? Just curious?

You're suggesting I give a shit about 20K HYP? LOL

Send me 20K HYP here: pA8XfxbEvh8wjdjFgDyTijH1ZNngDpLmdE and I'll burn the coins publicly.

If you're going to quote me, at least do it properly and quote the whole sentence:

Quote
I'm actually tired of posting in this thread, I wish David or presstab would take me up on the offer to relinquish control of this account here. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9327653#msg9327653)

Not sure why you haven't taken me up on this offer, unless of course the PM's you posted exist only in your imagination. Until then, enjoy the free promotion i guess.





Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 26, 2014, 11:10:07 PM
Not sure why you haven't taken me up on this offer, unless of course the PM's you posted exist only in your imagination. Until then, enjoy the free promotion i guess

3rd time posting this:

David, presstab.. have you decided which moderator or trusted community member will be verifying the existence of the PM's you posted?

If the PM's are confirmed legitimate, I will relinquish control of this Hypnotique account to the mod/community member.

They are of course legitimate. And your offer is cute, a new thread and sock puppet will be created and it will all start over. Nobody cares, and all of the accusations have been answered. Get over it.




Title: Re: Step up or STFU .
Post by: Biomech on October 26, 2014, 11:10:37 PM
What was Spoetnik's role in this coin?   ???

I am flattered you want to give me ALL the credit but you will notice i did not MAKE the topic here
and.. i was not the only one who helped expose this scam coin !
get it ?
or do i have to spell it out for you genius's here ?

give props where they are due guys ;)

if you don't know who to credit re-read the topic from start to finish please..
and i will warn ya.. you mess with the Penguin you get the full AK clip  8)

Alright, just for shits and giggles, since you're an "expert" in all things..
How many bullets in the standard AK clip, What year was the gun introduced, what is it's caliber, and how many moving parts does it have?

address what i said earlier instead of attacking me personally.. REAL SIMPLE talk about HYP and its internal workings etc.
cut the crap playing games calling me a FUD'er etc.. leave that to the morons with the intellect of a sack of rocks, i expect better from you.

do me a favor and just address one single point i made earlier you dodged..

Granted. It was a low blow. And I am a smartass, and I did attack you personally. I think you have it coming. But onward. I'll address it. But first...

30, 1947, 7.62 x 39 mm, and for most variants, 12.
Quote

YOU KNOW THE COIN IS DOOMED !
Why ? = High Stake !
You know that in time there is going to be TOO MANY coins and the dumping for profit can not sustain the price. = crash with investors losing a lot of BTC !
Especially when the Richlist dump hard leaving these other small time guys holding the worthless bag.

No, I don't. I know that it's a very high rate of minting, but I can say the same of a great many proof of work coins. Let's first dispense with that. This is not interest in the traditional sense (a repayment of profit in return for access to the asset), but rather a different form of mining that uses held stake in place of something like my Zeusminer blizzard.
Also, with the max subsidy at 1000 coins per stake, the cap is 950,000 coins per day (with variation due to blockspeed, but not much). This will EVENTUALLY be far less than 750% per year.  This provides incentive to hold coins to keep pace with the reduction in POS payouts over time, and we're already seeing this. I'm a very small bagholder (don't consider myself such, but it's the term that keeps getting bandied around) and I will NOT sell from my principle. I'd like to see merchant adoption and hope it comes to fruition. I can think of several mechanisms by which that might occur. This isn't the place for that.

Quote

form worthless shit coin TruckCoin to super valuable HYP coin and then later back to worthless coin again..
only difference is who stands in the middle raking in massive Bitcoin profits taken from a LOT of small time investors Bank accounts !
Because it derived from TRK??? Which derived from several others, ultimately bitcoin? Should he have cloned bitcoin and modified it? Would you consider that legit? This argument fails utterly unless applied to every alt but NXT and it's derivatives. (to my knowledge. There may be some others that are unrelated to BTC)
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cocky ? smart guy ? know more about this than i do ?
put your HYO coins where your mouth is and step up and back up your mouth !
Based on your post history, over the course of my time on this forum, yes, yes, and yes.
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and tell these small time investors how no matter how man coins are SUPER Staked the price will keep going up.
how a 750% stake is a smart idea.. do it !
Lets hear how smart you guys are ;)
Actually, it is my opinion  that over time the price is likely to drop as we approach max subsidy, but the value of staking will go up as there will be less opportunity. Certainly, it's a Miltonian position and I usually support Von Mises, but I think that ONE source of inflation rather than many totally arbitrary ones makes it a worthy experiment. If you have ten times what you have today, but it's worth 20 percent per unit of what it was, have you not still gained?
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and tell these small time investors how your "experiment" disclaimer you keep posting every few minutes HAD to be set up using their Bitcoin
..instead of Test Net

Not being a developer and having a limited understanding of c++, I'm not qualified to answer that. Do you know how to set up a pure POS test net? This isn't sarcasm, I would actually like to know.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 26, 2014, 11:14:07 PM
Not sure why you haven't taken me up on this offer, unless of course the PM's you posted exist only in your imagination. Until then, enjoy the free promotion i guess

3rd time posting this:

David, presstab.. have you decided which moderator or trusted community member will be verifying the existence of the PM's you posted?

If the PM's are confirmed legitimate, I will relinquish control of this Hypnotique account to the mod/community member.

They are of course legitimate. And your offer is cute, a new thread and sock puppet will be created and it will all start over. Nobody cares, and all of the accusations have been answered. Get over it.



3rd time posting absolutely nothing. It's clear to everyone the PM's don't exist. Admit it, you'll feel better afterwards.


Title: Re: class action lawsuit ?
Post by: Biomech on October 26, 2014, 11:16:51 PM
@Biomech

You proclaimed earlier that the HYP ponzi "Experiment" was a success.... already  ::)

Don't you think you should give it a little more time until you call it ?
Like what about all those POS coins coming in to exchanges eventually ?

I don't think you waited LONG ENOUGH before branding HYP a success LOL
as a matter of fact, i think saying that is grossly irresponsible and bordering on deceitful when you KNOW better ;)

Guys you may have grounds for a lawsuit again these guys when it crashes hard ahhaha

edit:
and by the way another deceptive marketing tactic used on the ANN page is the coins start date ;)

Quote me. I don't think I said that, though I did say it's been successful so far. Which I stand by. It's too new to be called a success in any long term sense. I've never deliberately stated otherwise and have in fact said exactly that in public and in private many times.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 26, 2014, 11:24:31 PM
Not sure why you haven't taken me up on this offer, unless of course the PM's you posted exist only in your imagination. Until then, enjoy the free promotion i guess

3rd time posting this:

David, presstab.. have you decided which moderator or trusted community member will be verifying the existence of the PM's you posted?

If the PM's are confirmed legitimate, I will relinquish control of this Hypnotique account to the mod/community member.

They are of course legitimate. And your offer is cute, a new thread and sock puppet will be created and it will all start over. Nobody cares, and all of the accusations have been answered. Get over it.



3rd time posting absolutely nothing. It's clear to everyone the PM's don't exist. Admit it, you'll feel better afterwards.

Post from your real identity and Ill give the clearance. Post from another of your sockpuppets and you have no deal.  I know you are somebody that I will know and have at least heard of, so don't use a troll account with a little bit of history to bait me.  Real or no deal.  Your move, can you man up and admit who you are? Or are you too embarrassed of yourself?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 26, 2014, 11:36:21 PM
You don't get to make demands presstab.. you're the one trying to run a scheme here, remember? You're the one with over 1 million HYP  ::)

Still don't understand why its such a big deal to get a mod/hero member to verify the PM's when you've already posted the contents here



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 26, 2014, 11:36:54 PM
Thats what I thought son.

EDIT
When you decide to own up to who you are I will give the all clear to the mods to check those PM's. I won't be responding to this thread anymore, because you all just keep saying the same things over and over and over, and I keep quoting the same response over and over and over. The topics are covered. When you man up, go ahead an PM with a link to your post owning up to who you are.

EDIT2

I would also recommend for others to stop posting as well.  Up to you of course, but I think we have done our job answering every question they have had. They can't even list their questions anymore.  SPoetnik is sad, and another guy is jealous. Big deal.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 26, 2014, 11:40:14 PM
guys it's not a personal issue for me speaking on my own behalf it's about facts !

if facts look shady or something oh well.. it happens in crypto non stop deal with it.
if a guys says something is sketchy looking don't bother trying to Troll him and discredit his opinion.. it's a waste of time.
set the record straight and move on.
who likes who doesn't matter..

i just finished putting it on that guy and he keeps hiding.
does he really believe high POS is a "successful" idea ?
well if he does then we agree to disagree ..but asking is fair !

in that situation what more can i expect ?
i post a point he posts his we move and others form their own opinion how ever they want.

but please spare me this i am getting picked on by evil FUD'ers garbage..
a bunch of us have tried hard to talk about coins and you have all responded by attacking us personally NON STOP !
which is rather telling to the astute observer no ?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 26, 2014, 11:46:52 PM
Thats what I thought son.

EDIT
When you decide to own up to who you are I will give the all clear to the mods to check those PM's. I won't be responding to this thread anymore, because you all just keep saying the same things over and over and over, and I keep quoting the same response over and over and over. The topics are covered. When you man up, go ahead an PM with a link to your post owning up to who you are.

EDIT2

I would also recommend for others to stop posting as well.  Up to you of course, but I think we have done our job answering every question they have had. They can't even list their questions anymore.  SPoetnik is sad, and another guy is jealous. Big deal.


Says the anonymous developer who won't even POD for his own coin. What "identity" are you posting from anyway besides a collection of posts on a bitcoin forum?

edit: Yeah you better back away LOL.. back to the safety of your self-moderated threads

edit2: I wonder why you might "recommend" such a thing  :D


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 26, 2014, 11:47:50 PM
guys it's not a personal issue for me speaking on my own behalf it's about facts !

if facts look shady or something oh well.. it happens in crypto non stop deal with it.
if a guys says something is sketchy looking don't bother trying to Troll him and discredit his opinion.. it's a waste of time.
set the record straight and move on.
who likes who doesn't matter..

i just finished putting it on that guy and he keeps hiding.
does he really believe high POS is a "successful" idea ?
well if he does then we agree to disagree ..but asking is fair !

in that situation what more can i expect ?
i post a point he posts his we move and others form their own opinion how ever they want.

but please spare me this i am getting picked on by evil FUD'ers garbage..
a bunch of us have tried hard to talk about coins and you have all responded by attacking us personally NON STOP !
which is rather telling to the astute observer no ?

I actually responded point by point. I am not hiding a goddamn thing.

As for asking? No problem on my side. If you don't ask the hard questions, you're a fool. It's more the way you "ask". Calling scam (yes, I know you're not the OP) and then mischaracterizing a great deal of the actual PUBLIC history of the coin is not asking, it's accusing. My problem with you is, as it has been for a long time, that you come out shooting and hope you hit a nerve. You ain't no "disinterested public servant" if ever there was such a thing.

I also will admit that I countered you for the pure fun of it, since normally I don't bother with obvious trolls. I used to, a lot, back in the 90's, because it's fun. But it's also taxing and time consuming, and I don't have the time that I once did.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 27, 2014, 12:05:32 AM
As for asking? No problem on my side. If you don't ask the hard questions, you're a fool. It's more the way you "ask". Calling scam (yes, I know you're not the OP) and then mischaracterizing a great deal of the actual PUBLIC history of the coin is not asking, it's accusing.

I agree with you on this point, i modified the thread title

edit: after some consideration i re-modified it  :-\


Title: Everyone pipe down.. i am the smart one here !
Post by: Spoetnik on October 27, 2014, 12:21:20 AM
guys it's not a personal issue for me speaking on my own behalf it's about facts !

if facts look shady or something oh well.. it happens in crypto non stop deal with it.
if a guys says something is sketchy looking don't bother trying to Troll him and discredit his opinion.. it's a waste of time.
set the record straight and move on.
who likes who doesn't matter..

i just finished putting it on that guy and he keeps hiding.
does he really believe high POS is a "successful" idea ?
well if he does then we agree to disagree ..but asking is fair !

in that situation what more can i expect ?
i post a point he posts his we move and others form their own opinion how ever they want.

but please spare me this i am getting picked on by evil FUD'ers garbage..
a bunch of us have tried hard to talk about coins and you have all responded by attacking us personally NON STOP !
which is rather telling to the astute observer no ?

I actually responded point by point. I am not hiding a goddamn thing.

As for asking? No problem on my side. If you don't ask the hard questions, you're a fool. It's more the way you "ask". Calling scam (yes, I know you're not the OP) and then mischaracterizing a great deal of the actual PUBLIC history of the coin is not asking, it's accusing. My problem with you is, as it has been for a long time, that you come out shooting and hope you hit a nerve. You ain't no "disinterested public servant" if ever there was such a thing.

I also will admit that I countered you for the pure fun of it, since normally I don't bother with obvious trolls. I used to, a lot, back in the 90's, because it's fun. But it's also taxing and time consuming, and I don't have the time that I once did.

do you think it's going to fail or no though ?
to me i think the core concept is doomed to failure and it's going to be a loss for people who lose money over a fun experiment !
you think i am "an obvious troll" and i think i am one of them few guys around her offering sane info to new users
you just said my point was good man ;)
I also don't think 90% of you know what the word Troll means you use it as an insulting word of attack to discredit people.
or you do but your playing dumb about it AKA: Bitcointalk rule #1
who is here bending over backwards to warn guys and not just scream buy my shitty altcoin... experiment #1,600 for "fun and profit"
what you call Trolling i call looking out for the vulnerable so many of you so nonchalantly give two shits about.

keep up with the evil Troll FUD'ing people bullshit for the one zillionth time people watching are not going to buy it
..don't insult our intelligence .

i come to talk coins not trade insults with spoiled brats who want our Bitcoin.
if they want to troll they can go do it at 4chan or something..
previous page i reported presstab to the mods for bragging about trolling by the way.. what does that tell you ?

cut the crap guys.. don't PLAY smart.. BE SMART !


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: David Latapie on October 27, 2014, 12:36:27 AM

HyperBlue
Poloniex Day
Poloniex Night
Celestial
Magma
We should create a carrousel for hyperstake.com. I will propose to squiggie

I have a challenge: let's beat the Monero thread free for all (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978) in pagination. I know, it will take time but at least will have nice pictures :) Maybe the goal is the same: tank the price of HYP. Doesn't look that effective, though.

He's also pretty damned honest
The number one reason why I teamed up with him.

I have become quite friendly with David in the course of this, but prior to HyperStake, I had only ever interacted with him on the TEK thread, and not very much even then. I only learned he was French after the launch of HYP. Sorry David, but you're the first frenchman who hasn't pissed me off :D
I even learnt things on this thread w00t :)
Now that we are on the anecdotes, Biomech, your first name in France is popular in people who are in their twenties now and some years ago, your first name was synonym for "immature pre-teen nerd". Since the popularity of a given name for a given generation change from one country to another, I suppose you are more then 20 (an definitely not a "immature pre-teen nerd", but that was a given) but I still struggle at guessing your age :)
/end anecdote


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: antonioserrano72 on October 27, 2014, 12:36:56 AM
Good to see people talking with facts now.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: EyesWideOpen on October 27, 2014, 12:40:19 AM
Good job on getting your sheeps posting and requoting large images to hide all the posts that threaten your scam.

David, when has any of your coins gained "wider adoption"?
How many coins have you had a hand in? Eleven? Does that sound about right?
All your coins are just made for exchanges. Everyone knows this, even your bagholders know this.
You're a cloner. That's it. You make money for yourself and your pals at the expense of the trusting, voiceless majority.
You're part of the disease that is holding back crypto.

No matter how many times you proclaim how important you are in crypto, no matter how many times you post links of your simple-minded comments to Polo's trollbox trying to impress some noob, people know who you are, David.

I know for a fact that even some members of the Monero team are embarrassed to be associated with you, David.
Two. Monero and HyperStake (Mintcoin and Noblecoin, I do not dev them, I like them and helped a bit, that's different).
Try harder.

oh, and this is Earl David.
(there is a tongue-in-cheek reference here - how long before this reference is reused out of context?)

i think some missed out and is alittle upset. ;D
Little is an understatement :D He could buy or get inspiraration instead of trolling. This is open source, not open mouth.

I don't understand why people spend time setting up new accounts and derogatory post instead of actually doing something (well, I actually do understand, I just hope he will move beyond this with time and wisdom). As the saying goes "better to light up a candle than to curse the darkness".

(I know, I said I would not intervene on this quarantine thread - I'm so happy we made our ANN self-mod), but since presstab is posting, I should let him have fun alone. So-li-da-ri-ty :D
as long as it doesn't impede the development of XMR and HYP of course

David, David, David...
Not surprising that you would deny it. Of course you won't destroy your own gravy train.
But your denial lacks the indignation of someone falsely accused of something. It sounds contrived.
I have also restored the parts of my quotes which you have cowardly snipped off.

We are doing something here David. We are trying to prevent you and your cronies from scamming noobs.
I have a challenge for you.
Presstab earlier posted this.


And via PM from David:
Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).


No grace.
What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.


The phrasing of the sentences do not sound like you at all. It looks like something you and Presstab made up together as usual.
If you dare allow theymos or a Hero-level escrow to view that chain of messages and confirm their actually existence, it would prove both of you are not lying psychopathic scumbags who would cheat and lie just to make some money. If those private messages exists, it would prove I don't know what I am talking about and I will no longer have any credibility to say anything at all. It would prove the sneaky edits in the ANN thread were not malicious.

Do you and your sycophant Presstab dare take up this challenge, David Latapie, or will you make up some excuses to get out of this? Please don't try to get your cronies to verify the messages. Theymos, Badbear, Maidak, Tysat, John K, Danny Hamilton, Tomatocage, gmaxwell or people of similar stature would do nicely.




EDIT: Immediately after posting this, I received a PM from Presstab.

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hey PM me back if you dare  :o

I wonder what he is up to?

EDIT: Immediately after posting this, I received a PM from Presstab.

hey PM me back if you dare  :o

I wonder what he is up to?

PM me back and maybe you will see

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRVqIQI7F0auXlV3nJ_1tUE3e609zyh6HGhTIcw2g4S1RZdFTHF

No thanks. Let's keep everything public.
I'm going out for a date shortly so David will have plenty of time to contact an admin, mod or escrow I suggested above to verify the existence of the PMs. The selected admin, mod or escrow can also check my account and view the strange private messages I've been receiving.

So David Latapie and Presstab, it's been one day. Have either of you contacted anyone to verify the phantom PMs?
It's such a simple thing to do. Unless both of you are scared of being proven liars?
It really is pathetic when two 'devs' have to resort to creating fake PMs between each other to support their story.
If Presstab and David lied about the PMs, one can only imagine what else they are lying about.
I pity the poor fools who bought into the HYP lies. They are basically just paying for David and Presstab's new car and Christmas holiday and funding their next scam.
What a way to earn a living.



So David Latapie and Presstab, it's been one day. Have either of you contacted anyone to verify the phantom PMs?
It's such a simple thing to do. Unless both of you are scared of being proven liars?
It really is pathetic when two 'devs' have to resort to creating fake PMs between each other to support their story.
If Presstab and David lied about the PMs, one can only imagine what else they are lying about.
I pity the poor fools who bought into the HYP lies. They are basically just paying for David and Presstab's new car and Christmas holiday and funding their next scam.
What a way to earn a living.


Its not fake at all, but i have no intentions of appeasing some fake troll accounts request. Use your real account boy.

So this will be your excuse then to try and escape from your lies?
I know you're not very bright, and are just a lackey for David, but when you say 'fake troll accounts', that's a contradiction in terms, dumbo.  ;D
In case you didn't notice, four other people have asked you the same question.
Aren't you embarrassed making a living like this? Does your father knows his son makes money by scamming?
I also won't respond to any of your PMs, because knowing your history, you will probably photoshop my replies. So stop sending me PMs.

https://i.imgur.com/RTotkQX.png

Presstab, it's been two days and you're still grasping at all sorts of straws trying to hide from your lies (and David has strangely gone silent  ::)).
It will literally take you a few minutes to contact one of the people I listed and asked them to verify the existence of your and David's phantom emails.
You can actually get rid of me by just confirming the existence of those PMs.
Instead, you rather waste all of our times posting about other things, sending me PMs and warning people off from posting in this thread.
It doesn't make sense. Verify those PMs exist and you will likely end this thread.




@Biomech, you are silent about the PMs. What's your take on that? You have a lot of opinions judging by the way you have insulted and belittled Spoetnik, so you must have an opinion about the phantom PMs. Why do you think Presstab is refusing to verify their existence? You said earlier that "if you don't ask the hard questions, you're a fool". Why are you not asking the hard and obvious question to Presstab here?

Does it not stand to reason that if David and Presstab can concoct a fake and elaborate series of PMs between them, they have also likely lied about other aspects of Hyperstake? If they can easily lie to their 'supporters', you must also wonder and ask why they quietly edited the ANN thread. You're no fool, right?



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 27, 2014, 12:49:43 AM
Good to see people talking with facts now.

it's good to see elite Hero members deciding to speak up and chime in with an opinion for once.
it's pretty easy to kick back silently contributing nothing to the Altcoin scene while helping put coins out.
where have you guys been ? hmm ?

in case some of you are unaware there is no rule against scamming here but i bet some coin "contributors/contractors" are more than aware of this ;)
and where were they on the last 100 scam coins we discussed ? hmm ?
people that contribute to the altcoin scene have opinions that hold weight.. not those that hide !
and only pop up with a Royal appearance to defend THEIR COIN.


Title: Re: Everyone pipe down.. i am the smart one here !
Post by: Biomech on October 27, 2014, 02:01:27 AM
guys it's not a personal issue for me speaking on my own behalf it's about facts !

if facts look shady or something oh well.. it happens in crypto non stop deal with it.
if a guys says something is sketchy looking don't bother trying to Troll him and discredit his opinion.. it's a waste of time.
set the record straight and move on.
who likes who doesn't matter..

i just finished putting it on that guy and he keeps hiding.
does he really believe high POS is a "successful" idea ?
well if he does then we agree to disagree ..but asking is fair !

in that situation what more can i expect ?
i post a point he posts his we move and others form their own opinion how ever they want.

but please spare me this i am getting picked on by evil FUD'ers garbage..
a bunch of us have tried hard to talk about coins and you have all responded by attacking us personally NON STOP !
which is rather telling to the astute observer no ?

I actually responded point by point. I am not hiding a goddamn thing.

As for asking? No problem on my side. If you don't ask the hard questions, you're a fool. It's more the way you "ask". Calling scam (yes, I know you're not the OP) and then mischaracterizing a great deal of the actual PUBLIC history of the coin is not asking, it's accusing. My problem with you is, as it has been for a long time, that you come out shooting and hope you hit a nerve. You ain't no "disinterested public servant" if ever there was such a thing.

I also will admit that I countered you for the pure fun of it, since normally I don't bother with obvious trolls. I used to, a lot, back in the 90's, because it's fun. But it's also taxing and time consuming, and I don't have the time that I once did.

do you think it's going to fail or no though ?
to me i think the core concept is doomed to failure and it's going to be a loss for people who lose money over a fun experiment !
you think i am "an obvious troll" and i think i am one of them few guys around her offering sane info to new users
you just said my point was good man ;)
I also don't think 90% of you know what the word Troll means you use it as an insulting word of attack to discredit people.
or you do but your playing dumb about it AKA: Bitcointalk rule #1
who is here bending over backwards to warn guys and not just scream buy my shitty altcoin... experiment #1,600 for "fun and profit"
what you call Trolling i call looking out for the vulnerable so many of you so nonchalantly give two shits about.
Thought I had adequately addressed this, but as it's a legitimate question, I'll answer that. No, I don't think it will fail due to concept. I think the concept is valid. Whether it will prove out in the long run? I honestly think that most coins in the bitcoin vein will ultimately fail as newer and better means of using blockchain technology displace them. I include Bitcoin in that. But I also think the basal concept of cryptocurrency will redefine money, and I WELCOME the experimentation. I've both won and lost in the hyperspace of cryptocurrency, and found a place in life that I have long sought. I'm not in it solely for profit. I am first and foremost an anarcho-capitalist, and I think that cryptos further my philosophy. If you, or anyone for that matter, are just looking for quick profits, that's on you. I've no objection to that, even, it's just not my bag. I'm looking to the mid to long term, and I think that POS coins meet that need more than POW coins. That I hold and support both, and am an avid miner, should illustrate my bent and dedication.

As for Trolling, yes, I understand the term. While many equate it with underbridge dwellers, I know it's derivation. It's from fishing, and it's casting bait on a long line and dragging it through the water to provoke a response. Precisely your style. As I said, I have previously just let you rant. This is NOT the first encounter I've had with you. In nearly every case it's just self aggrandizing bullshit with a smattering of facts and a whole lot of negative speculation.
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keep up with the evil Troll FUD'ing people bullshit for the one zillionth time people watching are not going to buy it
..don't insult our intelligence .

i come to talk coins not trade insults with spoiled brats who want our Bitcoin.
if they want to troll they can go do it at 4chan or something..
previous page i reported presstab to the mods for bragging about trolling by the way.. what does that tell you ?

cut the crap guys.. don't PLAY smart.. BE SMART !
I'm not insulting their intelligence, I was, as you noted, insulting yours. I should have instead attacked your style, but I was pissed off. For that I apologize, if not for my conclusions. I stand by them.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 27, 2014, 02:04:19 AM

HyperBlue
Poloniex Day
Poloniex Night
Celestial
Magma
We should create a carrousel for hyperstake.com. I will propose to squiggie

I have a challenge: let's beat the Monero thread free for all (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978) in pagination. I know, it will take time but at least will have nice pictures :) Maybe the goal is the same: tank the price of HYP. Doesn't look that effective, though.

He's also pretty damned honest
The number one reason why I teamed up with him.

I have become quite friendly with David in the course of this, but prior to HyperStake, I had only ever interacted with him on the TEK thread, and not very much even then. I only learned he was French after the launch of HYP. Sorry David, but you're the first frenchman who hasn't pissed me off :D
I even learnt things on this thread w00t :)
Now that we are on the anecdotes, Biomech, your first name in France is popular in people who are in their twenties now and some years ago, your first name was synonym for "immature pre-teen nerd". Since the popularity of a given name for a given generation change from one country to another, I suppose you are more then 20 (an definitely not a "immature pre-teen nerd", but that was a given) but I still struggle at guessing your age :)
/end anecdote

LOL :D
Let me put it this way. I missed the speech that led to men landing on the moon, but I didn't miss the launch, and I remember Apollo 13 quite vividly. Not the movie :D

I'm a few weeks shy of 46. And I'm definitely a nerd, though long past being a teenager. Didn't like 'em much when I was one, time has not improved my opinion.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 27, 2014, 02:14:10 AM



@Biomech, you are silent about the PMs. What's your take on that? You have a lot of opinions judging by the way you have insulted and belittled Spoetnik, so you must have an opinion about the phantom PMs. Why do you think Presstab is refusing to verify their existence? You said earlier that "if you don't ask the hard questions, you're a fool". Why are you not asking the hard and obvious question to Presstab here?

Does it not stand to reason that if David and Presstab can concoct a fake and elaborate series of PMs between them, they have also likely lied about other aspects of Hyperstake? If they can easily lie to their 'supporters', you must also wonder and ask why they quietly edited the ANN thread. You're no fool, right?



I'll let them fight their fights for the most part. I'm a HYP supporter and have never made any bones about it. I'm also of the opinion that open source projects are the property of those who use them and put in the effort. I've known Press for quite a while and David for a short while, and I tend to believe them. It's a pretty minor issue, to be honest.

However, my issue with Spoetnik isn't that he calls people out over scams, but that he does so in a manner guaranteed to make him look like an idiot. I have ZERO issue with people digging in the dirt (if any) of any coin. I really don't think any of you are going to find anything outrageous here, but hey, I've been wrong in the past and likely will be again. We all make mistakes. Frankly, I have often looked into things in a positive light BECAUSE Spoetnik hated them. I sometimes have wondered if he's some sort of reverse shill, like most movie critics when reviewing action movies. I also hate how he seizes on something that seemingly everyone else knows like it's a fucking revelation.

As to whether I'm a fool? Time will tell. I try not to be.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 27, 2014, 02:52:20 AM
At least we talked.. that alone is a step in the right direction.
For far too long this forum changed dramatically from when i registered here..
We all went from discussing the coins and the concepts etc to non stop cloning and advertising
and then creating new accounts to accuse someone of being a FUD'er or Troll every few minutes.
It was not like this before guys and many of you are clueless because you got here to trade Doge coin in Nov or December !

i don't see ANY of you stepping up to claim the 1,000+ shit coins posted in the ANN section.. it's always someone else  ::)
FUD first and ask questions later !
Why ? duh look around you and notice that scams are allowed (prob because it would be too hard to moderate)
So who moderates then ?
Not the guys hiding LOL

Posting ..one.. more... coin... is asking for it !

presstab said so what who cares and that everyone already knows, when this topic was posted on Poloniex chat..
well it seems to me everyone cares and almost nobody knew the HYP price tanked right after.. it dropped in half !

what we have here is a long line of points where you HYP guys are putting your best foot forward.
and anyone that notices any of the countless bad things about the coin are "obvious trolls"
how about not hiding all these bits of info in the first place ? and then trolling on guys who point it out ?

half of this topic is name calling and false accusations for me being the OP (for example) and i told you all a million times i don't know who guy is.. seriously !
Who's the troll ? ya uhh who is talking about coins ?
and who is here simply for name calling and attacks ? ..the answer lies on the previous pages.. read it ;)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 27, 2014, 03:01:13 AM
At least we talked.. that alone is a step in the right direction.
For far too long this forum changed dramatically from when i registered here..
We all went from discussing the coins and the concepts etc to non stop cloning and advertising
and then creating new accounts to accuse someone of being a FUD'er or Troll every few minutes.
It was not like this before guys and many of you are clueless because you got here to trade Doge coin in Nov or December !

i don't see ANY of you stepping up to claim the 1,000+ shit coins posted in the ANN section.. it's always someone else  ::)
FUD first and ask questions later !
Why ? duh look around you and notice that scams are allowed (prob because it would be too hard to moderate)
So who moderates then ?
Not the guys hiding LOL



Fair enough. If you look to my previous history, here, I've largely avoided the fights. I got irritated, and responded. You came back the way I expected at first, but then you mellowed out. So... I'll stop. I won't disengage, But I'll cease name calling. It's childish, though it has a strange appeal.

I claim no coins because I've made no coins. Not saying I won't, because it fascinates me. But at this point I have not. As for "hero member", I'm not so sure that's a badge of honor, given that it pretty much directly means you spend too much time here.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Trololoh on October 27, 2014, 03:15:46 AM
Good to see people talking with facts now.
Hmmmm, breath taking thats for sure...
On a side note, the whole crypto world can be seen as one large ponzi or pyramid scheme.
If volume of trade and tx of BTC or other main coin stalls and goes down...
POOOOOF !!!
Bye bye ..

And if we have a look at so-called exchanges, and traders ?
Well, its save to say that its manipulated BIG time, and many ppl would spend time in jail when they would try to do the same on regulated exchanges like Wallstreet, London, etc.
And even those are manipulated.
Trading on inside information is illegal in the real world, but in the crypto world EVERYBODY would love to have access and act accordingly.
Coordinated pump and dumps also great "fun", for the insiders (whales) that is, average Joe gets screwed as usual.

Even currency, real money can end up as a ponzi.
Plenty of country's where the ppl prefer NOT to use their own country's currency but want USD.
As a result ?
Indeed POOOOF !!
Bye bye

I almost forgot, biggest ponzi schemes are usually run by politicians.
Known as "elections".   ;D


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 27, 2014, 03:21:53 AM
Good to see people talking with facts now.
Hmmmm, breath taking thats for sure...
On a side note, the whole crypto world can be seen as one large ponzi or pyramid scheme.
If volume of trade and tx of BTC or other main coin stalls and goes down...
POOOOOF !!!
Bye bye ..

And if we have a look at so-called exchanges, and traders ?
Well, its save to say that its manipulated BIG time, and many ppl would spend time in jail when they would try to do the same on regulated exchanges like Wallstreet, London, etc.
And even those are manipulated.
Trading on inside information is illegal in the real world, but in the crypto world EVERYBODY would love to have access and act accordingly.
Coordinated pump and dumps also great "fun", for the insiders (whales) that is, average Joe gets screwed as usual.

Even currency, real money can end up as a ponzi.
Plenty of country's where the ppl prefer NOT to use their own country's currency but want USD.
As a result ?
Indeed POOOOF !!
Bye bye

I almost forgot, biggest ponzi schemes are usually run by politicians.
Known as "elections".   ;D


That's not a ponzi, that's outright theft.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Trololoh on October 27, 2014, 03:36:06 AM
Good to see people talking with facts now.
Hmmmm, breath taking thats for sure...
On a side note, the whole crypto world can be seen as one large ponzi or pyramid scheme.
If volume of trade and tx of BTC or other main coin stalls and goes down...
POOOOOF !!!
Bye bye ..

And if we have a look at so-called exchanges, and traders ?
Well, its save to say that its manipulated BIG time, and many ppl would spend time in jail when they would try to do the same on regulated exchanges like Wallstreet, London, etc.
And even those are manipulated.
Trading on inside information is illegal in the real world, but in the crypto world EVERYBODY would love to have access and act accordingly.
Coordinated pump and dumps also great "fun", for the insiders (whales) that is, average Joe gets screwed as usual.

Even currency, real money can end up as a ponzi.
Plenty of country's where the ppl prefer NOT to use their own country's currency but want USD.
As a result ?
Indeed POOOOF !!
Bye bye

I almost forgot, biggest ponzi schemes are usually run by politicians.
Known as "elections".   ;D


That's not a ponzi, that's outright theft.
Well it works pretty much the same.
Trying to sell some fairytale to the ppl and when elections are over, we are getting screwed.
But then its all to late, and since ppl are blessed with short term memory, after some 4 years most have forgotten, so it starts all over again.
I guess you could say every 4 years we are getting GOXED.
Remember Gox, Mike Krapless ?
Those were the days !


Title: Roflcopter locked onto target.. FIRING !!!
Post by: Spoetnik on October 27, 2014, 09:06:21 AM
i think the fairytale is 750% stake interest and playing dumb about it's inevitable failure.
as usual ALL of you bend over backwards avoiding admitting it's a dumb concept..
no matter how many times i put it on you guys !
think about it.. if it was a good idea then why the fuck was it not done before by all POS coins ? hhhhmmmmmmmm ?

do you need to run an "experiment" to know smacking yourself in the fucking face with a hammer is not smart ?
and a more accurate analogy would be smacking US in the face !
it's all of the end users who are going to get burned the devs etc who have already prob cashed out enough to have made a nice profit.

and hey.. your experiment for "fun & profit" (Shakezulu's trademark tag line) works better if you carefully edit out any bad points eh ?
is it a fair experiment to basically hide the fact it was from Truck Coin and to deliberately leave out the max coins on the ANN topic etc ?
is that a fair experiment ?
and is it honest if guys are hyping the public to buy non stop on chat by choosing their words carefully and leaving out negative points ?
a slanted biased unfair experiment designed to fail from the start for fun and profit ..at our expense !

from who ? well seems we have a lot of drama about various accounts being used publicly and via PM etc
then we have mysterious devs who pop up talking just like Shakezulu a legendary coin "contributor"
mimicking the comments he made in his devtome SHA and Scrypt coin cloning tutorials.. and on other places too !

and even finnier the guy said on chat to me some shit that pins his identity down too.. (again caught trying to tell me off exposing himself)
i posted a link to the HBN wiki page on coin control while discussing the POS high stake issue etc on Poloniex's chat about a week ago almost..
and this guy got mouthy with me and said it was his web site and he wrote the story i linked to him !
busted LOL
Your HYP coder is the HBN coder !
http://wiki.hobonickels.info/index.php?title=Coin_Control

and many of you Altcoin vets can take it from there and put two and two together..

If he did the POS code on HBN then what ?

I know damn well the hobo (Horus - Cryptsy mod aka: jdtmp etc) did not code the coin Hoboknikels / HBN LOL
i have already been told millions of times it was Shakezulu and i also have a list of other coins that guy has made
and.. i have already dealt with Shakezulu a lot ;)

so yeah.. it goes way beyond only two guys in crypto having EVER used this "experiments for fun and profit" tag line  / comment..
(he had the devtome article removed way back after i had confronted him here about many months ago where he said his tag line in the cloning tutorial)
the only two guys who said it a shit load of times in the last two years is Shakezulu and Biomech LOL
what coins did Shake make ? ask yourselves which one she Didn't ! ..cough cough CAP'S (Mullick Cryptsy mod's coin) CENT the highs take experiment coin ;)

*one of the clone guides pulled after i pointed it out months ago = http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=sha256_altcoin_cloning_guide

The backed up data so the little hiding cloner can't delete it ;)
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/confession-from-an-infamous-scam-coin-cloner.292512/
(note: he did the Scrypt cloning guide first then SHA and i also heard he sold it to people for a fee)
yaaaaaaaa innocent little angel here LOLOL

@Biomech, care to list off all the coins you have "contributed to" and any accounts you used here ?
*honestly ?

hey, HYP'sters your being played ;)

and they want you to think i am the Big bad evil Troll  ::)

why ? i have a million pounds of dirt on them that is why LOL
and i fuck up their ponzi schemes time after time ahahahha
we have not even begun to dig either.. you wanna see some shit exposed.. holy fuck, strap in or strap on what ever floats your boat cloners LOLOLOL ahahhaha

@Biomech
i was surprised to see you were dumb enough to poke your head out of the hole to get whacked LOL
i think it's because you wanted to tell me off so bad *again you HAD to expose yourself.. big mistake ahhahah
..shoulda just kept your mouth shut ;)

edit:
adding links ;)


Title: Re: Roflcopter locked onto target.. FIRING !!!
Post by: Deepanal on October 27, 2014, 12:09:50 PM
i think the fairytale is 750% stake interest and playing dumb about it's inevitable failure.
as usual ALL of you bend over backwards avoiding admitting it's a dumb concept..
no matter how many times i put it on you guys !
think about it.. if it was a good idea then why the fuck was it not done before by all POS coins ? hhhhmmmmmmmm ?

do you need to run an "experiment" to know smacking yourself in the fucking face with a hammer is not smart ?
and a more accurate analogy would be smacking US in the face !
it's all of the end users who are going to get burned the devs etc who have already prob cashed out enough to have made a nice profit.

and hey.. your experiment for "fun & profit" (Shakezulu's trademark tag line) works better if you carefully edit out any bad points eh ?
is it a fair experiment to basically hide the fact it was from Truck Coin and to deliberately leave out the max coins on the ANN topic etc ?
is that a fair experiment ?
and is it honest if guys are hyping the public to buy non stop on chat by choosing their words carefully and leaving out negative points ?
a slanted biased unfair experiment designed to fail from the start for fun and profit ..at our expense !

from who ? well seems we have a lot of drama about various accounts being used publicly and via PM etc
then we have mysterious devs who pop up talking just like Shakezulu a legendary coin "contributor"
mimicking the comments he made in his devtome SHA and Scrypt coin cloning tutorials.. and on other places too !

and even finnier the guy said on chat to me some shit that pins his identity down too.. (again caught trying to tell me off exposing himself)
i posted a link to the HBN wiki page on coin control while discussing the POS high stake issue etc on Poloniex's chat about a week ago almost..
and this guy got mouthy with me and said it was his web site and he wrote the story i linked to him !
busted LOL
Your HYP coder is the HBN coder !
http://wiki.hobonickels.info/index.php?title=Coin_Control

and many of you Altcoin vets can take it from there and put two and two together..

If he did the POS code on HBN then what ?

I know damn well the hobo (Horus - Cryptsy mod aka: jdtmp etc) did not code the coin Hoboknikels / HBN LOL
i have already been told millions of times it was Shakezulu and i also have a list of other coins that guy has made
and.. i have already dealt with Shakezulu a lot ;)

so yeah.. it goes way beyond only two guys in crypto having EVER used this "experiments for fun and profit" tag line  / comment..
(he had the devtome article removed way back after i had confronted him here about many months ago where he said his tag line in the cloning tutorial)
the only two guys who said it a shit load of times in the last two years is Shakezulu and Biomech LOL
what coins did Shake make ? ask yourselves which one she Didn't ! ..cough cough CAP'S (Mullick Cryptsy mod's coin) CENT the highs take experiment coin ;)

*one of the clone guides pulled after i pointed it out months ago = http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=sha256_altcoin_cloning_guide

The backed up data so the little hiding cloner can't delete it ;)
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/confession-from-an-infamous-scam-coin-cloner.292512/
(note: he did the Scrypt cloning guide first then SHA and i also heard he sold it to people for a fee)
yaaaaaaaa innocent little angel here LOLOL

@Biomech, care to list off all the coins you have "contributed to" and any accounts you used here ?
*honestly ?

hey, HYP'sters your being played ;)

and they want you to think i am the Big bad evil Troll  ::)

why ? i have a million pounds of dirt on them that is why LOL
and i fuck up their ponzi schemes time after time ahahahha
we have not even begun to dig either.. you wanna see some shit exposed.. holy fuck, strap in or strap on what ever floats your boat cloners LOLOLOL ahahhaha

@Biomech
i was surprised to see you were dumb enough to poke your head out of the hole to get whacked LOL
i think it's because you wanted to tell me off so bad *again you HAD to expose yourself.. big mistake ahhahah
..shoulda just kept your mouth shut ;)

edit:
adding links ;)

WTF are you talking about? You must be mentally challenged, bi-polar..somthing. Something has to explain your incredible amount of stupidity.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 27, 2014, 12:22:35 PM
Hey, you guys aren't following presstab's "recommendation" not to post here  :D

presstab, the anonymous developer who won't POD for his own coin, account registered in february 2014. Did your previous handle get busted for scamming too?

Tell me what "revealing my identity" has to do with allowing a mod/hero member to view the pm's between you and David, presstab? The point of crypto is you don't need to trust my identity, everything is in the blockchain. The blockchain proves you and David Latapie scammed your way into over 1 Million HYP (each) at the expense of all your supporters.

Hey, thanks for allowing the public to participate in your ICO for less than a day, while you, David and a few other insiders got to purchase all the TRK they could in the weeks before announcing the fork to get your free HYP. Then edit the fork date out afterwards.

Not a bad scam (aka "experiment") Too bad you guys got caught.


Title: cum guzzling queen gags on cock and spits out HYP coin'z
Post by: Spoetnik on October 27, 2014, 02:35:26 PM
... interesting : Spoetnik and Hypnotique are never both online at the same time here  ::)

Too bad you have ZERO credibility (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9325023#msg9325023)

just want to screencap how we're both online here ahhaha

http://i57.tinypic.com/igf90i.jpg

hey baby gnargnar i noticed your ran away and hid under you bed after i posted this and owned your ass eh ?
awww scared little baby wet himself and needs some fresh pampers.. go tell mom you made Boo Boom kid !


Title: Too bad you guys got caught.
Post by: Spoetnik on October 27, 2014, 02:38:43 PM
Hey, you guys aren't following presstab's "recommendation" not to post here  :D

presstab, the anonymous developer who won't POD for his own coin, account registered in february 2014. Did your previous handle get busted for scamming too?

Tell me what "revealing my identity" has to do with allowing a mod/hero member to view the pm's between you and David, presstab? The point of crypto is you don't need to trust my identity, everything is in the blockchain. The blockchain proves you and David Latapie scammed your way into over 1 Million HYP (each) at the expense of all your supporters.

Hey, thanks for allowing the public to participate in your ICO for less than a day, while you, David and a few other insiders got to purchase all the TRK they could in the weeks before announcing the fork to get your free HYP. Then edit the fork date out afterwards.

Not a bad scam (aka "experiment") Too bad you guys got caught.


agreed and well said !
New users should read carefully (some details noted in the OP's first post/comment)


Title: Re: cum guzzling queen gags on cock and spits out HYP coin'z
Post by: gnargnar on October 27, 2014, 02:47:00 PM
hey baby gnargnar i noticed your ran away and hid under you bed after i posted this and owned your ass eh ?
awww scared little baby wet himself and needs some fresh pampers.. go tell mom you made Boo Boom kid !
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/rando.gif


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: calebwalker on October 27, 2014, 03:02:15 PM
I might as well use this space to advertise our new wallet themes. Thanks for all the hard work ZeeWolf!!

HyperBlue
https://i.imgur.com/s9taXIo.jpg

Poloniex Day
https://i.imgur.com/pm62oDh.jpg

Poloniex Night
https://i.imgur.com/SH9eRrP.jpg

Dayum! Dem themable wallets though O.o

Zeewolf that is some nice work you put in there, HYP is looking as good as it runs now w000t w000t!!

kingpin69 check out the two new themes that Shrykez made for us today <3

Celestial
https://i.imgur.com/I7shmqL.jpg

Magma
https://i.imgur.com/ZPpIl6D.jpg

Magma looks awesome! Well done!

Thanks Ense04 but please make sure to give all the credit for the magma and celestial themes to Shrykez, he worked hard on these I know.

Well done shrykez!

I don't know if you all saw this difficulty chart I made:

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjkW38u4.jpg&t=545&c=DpW-boBuX13npA

COOL!

https://prateekvjoshi.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/1-main1.jpg

I would like those wallet designs in TEK, I don't know how to code though, so I will complain until someone else does it for me.


Title: Re: cum guzzling queen gags on cock and spits out HYP coin'z
Post by: Hypnotique on October 27, 2014, 03:12:27 PM
hey baby gnargnar i noticed your ran away and hid under you bed after i posted this and owned your ass eh ?
awww scared little baby wet himself and needs some fresh pampers.. go tell mom you made Boo Boom kid !
<gnargnar home video snipped>

Spoetnik doing his penguin impression: I love it honey boo boo ;D

P.S. Why'd I post on this toilet paper thread again?


More like the combined intellect of every HYP bagholder  ::)

Typical to insult Spoetnik and the thread without actually addressing any of the concerns. Where are you on the richlist again?




Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 27, 2014, 03:17:14 PM
All right, @ Spoetnik. I backed off, you didn't.

Fair game. "expose myself" eh? Not sure what you mean by that, but what the hell. Had you bothered to do minimal research, you'd have found this before, because you know, I've said it before.

I'll expose myself alright. I'm Jay Kevin Putzier. I have used the name "biomech" or "Biomech" as an online handle since 1989. That's right, prior to the advent of the public internet system. Prior to that, I used several handles over the years, the one most often associated with me was Tachyon_pulse. My identity and skillset have been out in the open for literally decades. So if you bothered to do any research, you'd know that I am not a programmer, and that the closest I've come to being a developer was a brief stint as the public face of Earthcoin. Which I did not do well as, and real life compelled me to quit.

Now, on to some specifics.

One: Not doing research at a minimal level disqualifies you as an expert witness. HoboNickels was programmed initially by several people, two of whom are known to me. I do not have their permission to reveal names. Tranz took it over later. The coin control was not created by Presstab, but it was modified him both prior to and after the launch of HYP. He has told me more than once that his mentor was Tranz, primarily.

Two. Inflationary model. Yes, the BASE minting is 750% per annum. Let's compare that to some other coins, just to see if you have an argument. But let's do it accurately. The 750% is not set in stone, because of the inflation control mechanism which caps subsidy at 1000 coins per block. This means the max is 950,000 per day, which over time is deflationary.

Now, some other coins.

HyperStake, assuming Max Subsidy, not yet achieved: 950,000
Jackpot coin. Not counting staking, for the sake of brevity. Current daily generation 5,168,865.50928
Dogecoin. Low level, totally unknown, unsuccessful coin that no one has ever heard of... 45,000,000

I could keep doing this, but I think the audience will get the point. Minting, while colloquially expressed as interest, is in fact mining. And the rate of reward is not outgrageous by comparison to a number of different coins. It's a steady rate of growth, declining over time by percentage in this case, even though it's initially quite high.

You don't trust the dev's, and you don't like the method of distribution. That's fine and dandy, but it hardly proves malfeasance by either the developers or the enthusiastic community. If this were coming from someone else, I would assume jealousy. In your case, I begin to suspect some other motive, or perhaps insanity per M'Noughton.

I need to get back to work. It's been fun, but I'm done playing with you now. I resisted the bait for over a year, and I regret not continuing to do so. Have a life.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 27, 2014, 05:20:01 PM
I'm so happy we made our ANN self-mod

I'm sure you are, David.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: bitwho on October 27, 2014, 07:46:44 PM
All right, @ Spoetnik. I backed off, you didn't.

Fair game. "expose myself" eh? Not sure what you mean by that, but what the hell. Had you bothered to do minimal research, you'd have found this before, because you know, I've said it before.

I'll expose myself alright. I'm Jay Kevin Putzier. I have used the name "biomech" or "Biomech" as an online handle since 1989. That's right, prior to the advent of the public internet system. Prior to that, I used several handles over the years, the one most often associated with me was Tachyon_pulse. My identity and skillset have been out in the open for literally decades. So if you bothered to do any research, you'd know that I am not a programmer, and that the closest I've come to being a developer was a brief stint as the public face of Earthcoin. Which I did not do well as, and real life compelled me to quit.

Now, on to some specifics.

One: Not doing research at a minimal level disqualifies you as an expert witness. HoboNickels was programmed initially by several people, two of whom are known to me. I do not have their permission to reveal names. Tranz took it over later. The coin control was not created by Presstab, but it was modified him both prior to and after the launch of HYP. He has told me more than once that his mentor was Tranz, primarily.

Two. Inflationary model. Yes, the BASE minting is 750% per annum. Let's compare that to some other coins, just to see if you have an argument. But let's do it accurately. The 750% is not set in stone, because of the inflation control mechanism which caps subsidy at 1000 coins per block. This means the max is 950,000 per day, which over time is deflationary.

Now, some other coins.

HyperStake, assuming Max Subsidy, not yet achieved: 950,000
Jackpot coin. Not counting staking, for the sake of brevity. Current daily generation 5,168,865.50928
Dogecoin. Low level, totally unknown, unsuccessful coin that no one has ever heard of... 45,000,000


I could keep doing this, but I think the audience will get the point. Minting, while colloquially expressed as interest, is in fact mining. And the rate of reward is not outgrageous by comparison to a number of different coins. It's a steady rate of growth, declining over time by percentage in this case, even though it's initially quite high.

You don't trust the dev's, and you don't like the method of distribution. That's fine and dandy, but it hardly proves malfeasance by either the developers or the enthusiastic community. If this were coming from someone else, I would assume jealousy. In your case, I begin to suspect some other motive, or perhaps insanity per M'Noughton.

I need to get back to work. It's been fun, but I'm done playing with you now. I resisted the bait for over a year, and I regret not continuing to do so. Have a life.


hah...


i think you should listen to Spotnik and the rest. Cash out before you support the early adapters much more.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 27, 2014, 10:48:51 PM
Updated and tweaked the OP for clarity


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 28, 2014, 12:48:53 AM
All right, @ Spoetnik. I backed off, you didn't.


Facts..

- You admitted i have made good points and that YOU "contributed" to coding for many coins. (more than one is many i think)

You never showed your face in the altcoin scene ever before.. until now in this topic ONLY ! ..rather odd isn't it ?
I brought up your possible connections to other accounts because a lot of fishyness surrounds everything you say.

please keep talking..

you are in over time doing damage control, cleaning up the mess of this "experiment" coin and the continued garbage you keep spewing.. digging a hole for yourself !

and i think your sweating because of connections to other coins that no matter how many times i have asked.. you keep hiding and playing games about.
kinda funny you have been around so long and none of us seen a word form you before AND that you made other coins and yet you refuse to name them.
and.. that you refuse to tell us what accounts you have used here.. your hiding and playing games and "contributing" to countless coins LOL
for every 10 coins these kind of guys admit to it's more like 100 they made !  ::)

and i have given you large amounts of time to make up shit and come back and twist shit around..

me..... i have come up with my comments off the top of my head and NO i will not be "backing off".
don't like it ? .. go create an account + coin about it

Fun Fact:
Notice how Shakezulu never comes and talks no mater what ? (he lost his password ?) ohhh he retired right ? mmmmmmmmmm hhhhhhhmmmmmm  :D
and the huuuuuuuuuuuuge vast amount of people who have worked with Shakezulu and talked to him every day for years are 100% silent ? odd ?

Shakezulu = a million clone coins + a million identities = for years !


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 28, 2014, 12:54:06 AM

Stop being babies, the founders of a coin want to make money, just like you, your just jelly.


They only want to rip people off. Fuck you for pretending for half a second that this was actually about "making" something.

ps: I contribute more good to society on a daily basis than the HYP devs will through the course of their entire useless lives.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: calebwalker on October 28, 2014, 01:09:03 AM
Anyone reading this should choose TEK. It has 0% premine, see this link for it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320404.0

TEK IS CHEAP RIGHT NOW. BUY BUY BUY!!


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: nutildah on October 28, 2014, 01:15:13 AM
Anyone reading this should choose TEK. It has 0% premine, see this link for it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320404.0

TEK IS CHEAP RIGHT NOW. BUY BUY BUY!!

No they shouldn't. Anytime somebody tries to sell a coin using unsolicited advice (meaning nobody here ever asked you for your opinion), I immediately assume that person is composed entirely of garbage. I don't know how they talk or walk around, but their bones, muscle and cartilage have somehow all been replaced with rotting refuse, along with the thing that is supposed to resemble a brain.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: bitkate on October 28, 2014, 01:24:25 AM
Anyone reading this should choose TEK. It has 0% premine, see this link for it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320404.0

TEK IS CHEAP RIGHT NOW. BUY BUY BUY!!


are u sure i have lost 50% with hyperstake..


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 28, 2014, 01:37:05 AM
All right, @ Spoetnik. I backed off, you didn't.


Facts..

- You admitted i have made good points and that YOU "contributed" to coding for many coins. (more than one is many i think)

You never showed your face in the altcoin scene ever before.. until now in this topic ONLY ! ..rather odd isn't it ?
I brought up your possible connections to other accounts because a lot of fishyness surrounds everything you say.

please keep talking..

you are in over time doing damage control, cleaning up the mess of this "experiment" coin and the continued garbage you keep spewing.. digging a hole for yourself !

and i think your sweating because of connections to other coins that no matter how many times i have asked.. you keep hiding and playing games about.
kinda funny you have been around so long and none of us seen a word form you before AND that you made other coins and yet you refuse to name them.
and.. that you refuse to tell us what accounts you have used here.. your hiding and playing games and "contributing" to countless coins LOL
for every 10 coins these kind of guys admit to it's more like 100 they made !  ::)

and i have given you large amounts of time to make up shit and come back and twist shit around..

me..... i have come up with my comments off the top of my head and NO i will not be "backing off".
don't like it ? .. go create an account + coin about it

Fun Fact:
Notice how Shakezulu never comes and talks no mater what ? (he lost his password ?) ohhh he retired right ? mmmmmmmmmm hhhhhhhmmmmmm  :D
and the huuuuuuuuuuuuge vast amount of people who have worked with Shakezulu and talked to him every day for years are 100% silent ? odd ?

Shakezulu = a million clone coins + a million identities = for years !

I have to wonder now, what drugs you're on.

I did not say I have contributed to many coins. I said I have been involved with many coins. Learn English, it's my first language and I use it properly.

I've "never shown my face in the alt coins sections before"...

Put DOWN the crack pipe. The vast majority of my 2,451 posts on this forum have been in the alt sections. The remainder have been in mining and politics. That I have refrained from interacting with YOU does not mean that I haven't been here.

What coins have I participated (traded, talked about, helped test, compiled wallets from source, bitched on, praised..) in?
Bitcoin
Litecoin
Tekcoin
Earthcoin (my only dabbling as part of a development team)
Sync
Fire
Doge
DEM
42
UNO
....and many others that I have mined or traded at some point. Long term involvement, EAC, TEK. From launch, Fork, however you wish to characterize it, HYP. Code contributions? 2 lines of code amended in the .pro file for FIRE to make it compile under ubuntu 14.04. Because I figured it out by comparing the file with another coin's .pro file. I don't know who you think I am, but if you had the ability to operate a fucking WEB BROWSER, you have my real name and therefore just about everything interesting about me. It's hardly difficult, man, basic computing skills.  The avatar to the left is my picture, about a year and a half ago. I have better glasses and have let my hair revert to it's natural color. I am who I say I am, and have no reason or desire to hide it. I'm far more arrogant than that.

Aside from an African king who stood against the british, who the fuck is shakezulu?

Again, I have NEVER claimed I was a developer, other than the PR guy for Earthcoin. Not once, in over 2,000 posts. I'm an enthusiast, an investor, often a cheerleader for the coins I like. I don't know where you pulled that rabbit out of, but frankly, I deal with crazy people enough in real life. This is my last response to you, regardless of yours. People who I like and trust say you mean well. On that word, and that alone, I have continued to interact here. But clearly, you're mind is not functioning on a normal or even sane level.

I talk a lot. I may be damned, but I won't be damned by YOUR words in MY mouth. Damn me for who I am, if you will, but I will not allow you to damn me for your hallucinations.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 28, 2014, 01:51:36 PM
I stand behind EVERYTHING i said and your behavior is suspicious no matter how you cut it.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 28, 2014, 01:54:08 PM
I had to register to ask this to everyone, and i wont return so dont start bashing me to, just think about this perspective guys...

So lets say your American, or European....whatever, just for instance, and you dont like China or North Korea, or Russia, whatever right? So you know they have a currency to, and the government in those countries, or even that of America and most of Europe, have a hell of alot more control, manipulation, and deceit around their currencies, so you know what I do? I don't trade them, I don't hodl them, and i don't help them, I don't go to FOREX markets and try and make money with them, I don't go and exchange all my fiat USD to CNY or RUR, or whatever I don't like, trust, value, whatever...


These guys developed software, websites, ideas, and spent alot of time on this project, they created it, if you don't like it, its too bad, its not yours, the coins have value that was established, and if people don't value them, they don't have to own them.

This is like you sitting there bashing EA because you can't kill as many bad guys on a game as the dude next to you who's been playing longer....the problem is on your end, not the people who are on the rich list, or on the bottom of the rich list, they own some coin, completely by their own accord.

You don't, your not losing anything, except you guys' time. It's really quite stupid. There's a billion billion other websites you could spend more productive time on then this....

Stop being babies, the founders of a coin want to make money, just like you, your just jelly.


<presstab & friends group shot snipped>
^  you guys...


Sorry had to get that in.


As you were though, cause i'm sure you guys could care less what a mature realistic look at this thread is.



hi press,er.. youngk,

Welcome, i'd be lying if i said i haven't been expecting you... 1 day after presstab announces he'll no longer participate in this thread.... you're early. It was a matter of time before "someone" felt the need to register a new account in support of the scammers. Pure coincidence, i'm sure.

Let's address your post. Forex? Video games? How is this relevant? Please re-read the OP. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9285102#msg9285102)

I'm also not surprised you think posting naked troll pictures is an adult, mature response. Reminds me of this adult, mature response:

I WANTED HYP NOW!!!!



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Deepanal on October 28, 2014, 02:06:37 PM
I had to register to ask this to everyone, and i wont return so dont start bashing me to, just think about this perspective guys...

So lets say your American, or European....whatever, just for instance, and you dont like China or North Korea, or Russia, whatever right? So you know they have a currency to, and the government in those countries, or even that of America and most of Europe, have a hell of alot more control, manipulation, and deceit around their currencies, so you know what I do? I don't trade them, I don't hodl them, and i don't help them, I don't go to FOREX markets and try and make money with them, I don't go and exchange all my fiat USD to CNY or RUR, or whatever I don't like, trust, value, whatever...


These guys developed software, websites, ideas, and spent alot of time on this project, they created it, if you don't like it, its too bad, its not yours, the coins have value that was established, and if people don't value them, they don't have to own them.

This is like you sitting there bashing EA because you can't kill as many bad guys on a game as the dude next to you who's been playing longer....the problem is on your end, not the people who are on the rich list, or on the bottom of the rich list, they own some coin, completely by their own accord.

You don't, your not losing anything, except you guys' time. It's really quite stupid. There's a billion billion other websites you could spend more productive time on then this....

Stop being babies, the founders of a coin want to make money, just like you, your just jelly.


<presstab & friends group shot snipped>
^  you guys...


Sorry had to get that in.


As you were though, cause i'm sure you guys could care less what a mature realistic look at this thread is.



hi press,er.. youngk,

Welcome, i'd be lying if i said i haven't been expecting you... 1 day after presstab announces he'll no longer participate in this thread. It was a matter of time before someone felt the need to register a new account in support of the scammers. Pure coincidence, i'm sure.

Let's address your post. Forex? Video games? How is this relevant? Please re-read the OP. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9285102#msg9285102)

I'm also not surprised you think posting naked pictures of trolls is an adult, mature response. Reminds me a little of this adult, mature response:

I WANTED HYP NOW!!!!






It's becoming quite obvious TO EVERYONE that this has nothing to do with HYP, but rather a personal vandetta against Presstab and David. You're most likely a competetor, or close friends with the developer. Since Thundertoe chimed in, maybe you're with TEK?  In any event, you come accross as weak minded. I know all you and your alter ego Spoetnik will do is come back with F this and F U that. Whatever. You're nothing more than a FUDster.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 28, 2014, 02:20:48 PM
Deepanal, you're perfectly entitled to that opinion. If you have a problem with me or this thread my only suggestion is that you follow your leader's recommendation to stop posting here.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Deepanal on October 28, 2014, 03:01:47 PM
Deepanal, you're perfectly entitled to that opinion. If you have a problem with me or this thread my only suggestion is that you follow your leader's recommendation to stop posting here.


No...you and your friends have inspired me. I have no offiliation with anyone, but as an investor and seeing this nonsense I cant help but want to expose you and your BS to eveyone, everytime you feel the need to chime in. This includes your other accounts (friends). I think I will chime in on thier other discussions as well.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: presstab on October 28, 2014, 03:05:27 PM
Hey I am breaking my own recommendations of not posting on this thread. Imagine that!  How immature I must be! You know me... parading around as the most mature member of crypto.

/sarcasm

Anyone is free to post what they want, in fact the thread is quite entertaining to watch the FUDsters repeat the same thing over and over. So here have a free bump to the top of the forum courtesy of my immature, spoiled (I think I was called spoiled a few times?) self.  8)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 28, 2014, 03:24:57 PM
I have no affiliation with anyone

FTFY


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 28, 2014, 03:29:58 PM
HYP is Horseshit coin for Horseshit Humans.

If you work really hard on a project and your end goal is to fuck other people out of their money, fuck you.

Your work is not commendable. Its not smart, its not decent, its not cool, its not special. It just means you are content simply wasting all of our precious lifetimes pursuing your morally-barren quest for cash.

I will harp on you guys wherever you go, for the rest of your career here. Whatever new horseshit coin you take over next, I will be there to remind your "investors" what awful losers you are. Scammy criminal fucks.

Excellent post! I agree wholeheartedly.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on October 28, 2014, 03:38:40 PM
Hey I am breaking my own recommendations of not posting on this thread. Imagine that!  How immature I must be! You know me... parading around as the most mature member of crypto.

/sarcasm

Anyone is free to post what they want, in fact the thread is quite entertaining to watch the FUDsters repeat the same thing over and over. So here have a free bump to the top of the forum courtesy of my immature, spoiled (I think I was called spoiled a few times?) self.  8)

just ignore and leave this threads


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: HYP on October 28, 2014, 03:51:25 PM
I have no affiliation with anyone

FTFY

HA HA HA HA HE HE HE HA HA HE HA HE HAW

YES DESTROY THIS PUNY COIN.
https://i.imgur.com/tHMkqdh.png


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on October 28, 2014, 04:16:31 PM
posting like crazy,...
because of envy
hahahahahhaaaaaaaahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahhah hahahhahhahahaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahaahahahah


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 28, 2014, 05:16:22 PM
Thank you for the free PR.  Much appreciated!

For information: if you notice something factually wrong here, please report it to me. Otherwise, let fudders give us free publicity; it is always appreciated to increase volume, which leads to lesser volatility and wider adoption, which in turn are fundamental for continuing experimenting on a grander scale.

You're welcome.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Zer0Sum on October 28, 2014, 05:39:41 PM

https://i.imgur.com/UiQlyRj.png


Greetings Friends,

I don't normally give investment advice to you guys, but I'm finding it hard to pay
for my new office building by grinding the likes of TitCoin and CooterPickles.

So I've just listed HyperStake, a bleeding edge experiment in financial engineering,
and am strongly advising my good friends to invest. And don't forget to park your
coins on Cryptsy, where they are protected by 342 separate US federal and state
financial regulations. Staking your HYP will allow me to maintain a better class of
hookers and blow.
 


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 28, 2014, 05:42:46 PM


If you work really hard on a project and your end goal is to fuck other people out of their money, fuck you.


A lot of people are loosing money from your actions now. Be ready for punishment.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 28, 2014, 08:24:08 PM
You have just deleted my post where I have said that I'm planning to prosecute you by means of court. I have a screenshot and a page copy. Everyone will know about it, I promise.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: MisterGreen on October 28, 2014, 08:35:20 PM

https://i.imgur.com/UiQlyRj.png


Greetings Friends,

I don't normally give investment advice to you guys, but I'm finding it hard to pay
for my new office building by grinding the likes of TitCoin and CooterPickles.

So I've just listed HyperStake, a bleeding edge experiment in financial engineering,
and am strongly advising my good friends to invest. And don't forget to park your
coins on Cryptsy, where they are protected by 342 separate US federal and state
financial regulations. Staking your HYP will allow me to maintain a better class of
hookers and blow.
 

http://i.giphy.com/M94teccuTi4V2.gif


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: calebwalker on October 28, 2014, 10:02:52 PM
Anyone reading this should choose TEK. It has 0% premine, see this link for it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320404.0

TEK IS CHEAP RIGHT NOW. BUY BUY BUY!!

No they shouldn't. Anytime somebody tries to sell a coin using unsolicited advice (meaning nobody here ever asked you for your opinion), I immediately assume that person is composed entirely of garbage. I don't know how they talk or walk around, but their bones, muscle and cartilage have somehow all been replaced with rotting refuse, along with the thing that is supposed to resemble a brain.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH TEK!!!

This is the thing, TEK was launched way more fair than HYP. TEK was announced in Cryptsy chat for all to see, and later the announcements made to forums. TEK is STILL MINEABLE. So that proves it is much more fair.

Just saying! Buy TEK from here: https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/TEK_BTC


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 28, 2014, 10:40:14 PM
You have just deleted my post where I have said that I'm planning to prosecute you by means of court. I have a screenshot and a page copy. Everyone will know about it, I promise.

This is not a self-moderated thread, talk to mprep about your deleted post.

Please do keep us updated on the court proceedings, i'll be on the lookout for a subpoena.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 28, 2014, 10:51:07 PM
You have just deleted my post where I have said that I'm planning to prosecute you by means of court. I have a screenshot and a page copy. Everyone will know about it, I promise.

This is not a self-moderated thread, talk to mprep about your deleted post.

Please do keep us updated on the court proceedings, i'll be on the lookout for a subpoena.


Sorry, it seems to me I've mistakenly pressed the Edit button instead of Quote. But you should understand that you aren't doing a good thing, and if you'll continue, the community will find legal instruments to deal with it.


Title: Lawyer Smack Down 2014
Post by: Spoetnik on October 28, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
@Zer0Sum & HYP that was pretty damn funny super mega happy ROFL'z Dance Time  ;D

@iantunc
learn how the basics of a stock forum system works before giving us insults back on coin tech you can not comprehend kid..
you will lose less credibility that way.. adorable you would have been better off saying nothing at all son LOL

First i advise learning how to click buttons ;)

let us know how the lawsuits are working out.. have your lawyer talk to my lawyer ok ?
I had him just finish recently shit kick the fuck out of Paypal where i won my case 100% over a Bitcoin issue
..but if you want some too my lawyer will gladly shell out some beats..
he REALLY loves whaling on toddlers for fun  :o


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Deepanal on October 28, 2014, 11:02:58 PM
Anyone reading this should choose TEK. It has 0% premine, see this link for it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320404.0

TEK IS CHEAP RIGHT NOW. BUY BUY BUY!!

No they shouldn't. Anytime somebody tries to sell a coin using unsolicited advice (meaning nobody here ever asked you for your opinion), I immediately assume that person is composed entirely of garbage. I don't know how they talk or walk around, but their bones, muscle and cartilage have somehow all been replaced with rotting refuse, along with the thing that is supposed to resemble a brain.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH TEK!!!

This is the thing, TEK was launched way more fair than HYP. TEK was announced in Cryptsy chat for all to see, and later the announcements made to forums. TEK is STILL MINEABLE. So that proves it is much more fair.

Just saying! Buy TEK from here: https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/TEK_BTC

Just as I suspected.. This thread is run by TEK groupies. Pathetic, whiny little bitches. Get a life losers.


Title: Re: Lawyer Smack Down 2014
Post by: iantunc on October 28, 2014, 11:18:08 PM
@Zer0Sum & HYP that was pretty damn funny super mega happy ROFL'z Dance Time  ;D

@iantunc
learn how the basics of stock forum system work before giving us insults back on coin tech you can not comprehend kid..
you will lose less credibility that way.. adorable you would have been better off saying nothing at all son LOL

First i advise learning how to click buttons ;)

let us know how the lawsuits are working out.. have your lawyer talk to my lawyer ok ?
I had him just finish recently shit kick the fuck out of Paypal where i won my case 100% over a Bitcoin issue
..but if you want some too my lawyer will gladly shell out some beats..
he REALLY loves whaling on toddlers for fun  :o

I usually don't read your posts, but if I'll decide to make a precedent, I'll hire a firm and the community will support me and crowdfund this project. I understand that you have some mental disorders, but I recommend you to think about the future.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 29, 2014, 12:05:28 AM
I usually don't read your posts, but if I'll decide to make a precedent, I'll hire a firm and the community will support me and crowdfund this project. I understand that you have some mental disorders, but I recommend you to think about the future.

iantunc:

Earlier, EyesWideOpen posted this:



David, David, David...
Not surprising that you would deny it. Of course you won't destroy your own gravy train.
But your denial lacks the indignation of someone falsely accused of something. It sounds contrived.
I have also restored the parts of my quotes which you have cowardly snipped off.

We are doing something here David. We are trying to prevent you and your cronies from scamming noobs.
I have a challenge for you.
Presstab earlier posted this.


And via PM from David:
Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).

No grace.
What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.


The phrasing of the sentences do not sound like you at all. It looks like something you and Presstab made up together as usual.
If you dare allow theymos or a Hero-level escrow to view that chain of messages and confirm their actually existence, it would prove both of you are not lying psychopathic scumbags who would cheat and lie just to make some money. If those private messages exists, it would prove I don't know what I am talking about and I will no longer have any credibility to say anything at all. It would prove the sneaky edits in the ANN thread were not malicious.

Do you and your sycophant Presstab dare take up this challenge, David Latapie, or will you make up some excuses to get out of this? Please don't try to get your cronies to verify the messages. Theymos, Badbear, Maidak, Tysat, John K, Danny Hamilton, Tomatocage, gmaxwell or people of similar stature would do nicely.

Once these PM's are confirmed legitimate, I relinquish control of the Hypnotique account (i'm repeating myself, i know) and this thread dies. It's really as simple as that.

Maybe you should speak to your dear leader?

Meanwhile, the thread moves forward.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on October 29, 2014, 12:20:07 AM
haha,..This threads was made by newbie,..
I believe that you are a senior or hero member here
actually,..how are you and what your coins
whatever it is,..lets play fair


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 29, 2014, 12:35:45 AM
Anyone reading this should choose TEK. It has 0% premine, see this link for it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320404.0

TEK IS CHEAP RIGHT NOW. BUY BUY BUY!!

No they shouldn't. Anytime somebody tries to sell a coin using unsolicited advice (meaning nobody here ever asked you for your opinion), I immediately assume that person is composed entirely of garbage. I don't know how they talk or walk around, but their bones, muscle and cartilage have somehow all been replaced with rotting refuse, along with the thing that is supposed to resemble a brain.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH TEK!!!

This is the thing, TEK was launched way more fair than HYP. TEK was announced in Cryptsy chat for all to see, and later the announcements made to forums. TEK is STILL MINEABLE. So that proves it is much more fair.

Just saying! Buy TEK from here: https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/TEK_BTC

Just as I suspected.. This thread is run by TEK groupies. Pathetic, whiny little bitches. Get a life losers.

Hey, I'm a TEK groupie. Also HYP. One need not be loyal to only one coin.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on October 29, 2014, 12:40:31 AM
Anyone reading this should choose TEK. It has 0% premine, see this link for it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320404.0

TEK IS CHEAP RIGHT NOW. BUY BUY BUY!!

No they shouldn't. Anytime somebody tries to sell a coin using unsolicited advice (meaning nobody here ever asked you for your opinion), I immediately assume that person is composed entirely of garbage. I don't know how they talk or walk around, but their bones, muscle and cartilage have somehow all been replaced with rotting refuse, along with the thing that is supposed to resemble a brain.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH TEK!!!

This is the thing, TEK was launched way more fair than HYP. TEK was announced in Cryptsy chat for all to see, and later the announcements made to forums. TEK is STILL MINEABLE. So that proves it is much more fair.

Just saying! Buy TEK from here: https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/TEK_BTC

Just as I suspected.. This thread is run by TEK groupies. Pathetic, whiny little bitches. Get a life losers.


whatever is it and then This is an act of cowardice


Title: Re: Lawyer Smack Down 2014
Post by: Spoetnik on October 29, 2014, 01:51:55 AM
@Zer0Sum & HYP that was pretty damn funny super mega happy ROFL'z Dance Time  ;D

@iantunc
learn how the basics of stock forum system work before giving us insults back on coin tech you can not comprehend kid..
you will lose less credibility that way.. adorable you would have been better off saying nothing at all son LOL

First i advise learning how to click buttons ;)

let us know how the lawsuits are working out.. have your lawyer talk to my lawyer ok ?
I had him just finish recently shit kick the fuck out of Paypal where i won my case 100% over a Bitcoin issue
..but if you want some too my lawyer will gladly shell out some beats..
he REALLY loves whaling on toddlers for fun  :o

I usually don't read your posts, but if I'll decide to make a precedent, I'll hire a firm and the community will support me and crowdfund this project. I understand that you have some mental disorders, but I recommend you to think about the future.

Having "mental disorders" is not a crime.. good luck with the crowd funded (IPO) lawsuit though..

May i suggest just contacting this forum user and using the existing crowd funded project to come get me ?
http://pastebin.com/sDV6rWiB
That is a log of a PM i got here where someone is trying to raise money/coins to come get me.
This was from the distinguished forum user here Mr. SpoetniksFucked = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=369938

Disclaimer:
Investing in IPO's is a risky idea whether your hiring a Lawyer, Hacker or Hitman.
my advice is to simply avoid them ALL !
But if you guys insist ? then best of luck with your "Let's Get Spoetnik IPO"
I have gotten plenty of threats before and none of them worked just to let you know eh HYP'sters.

I will cross my fingers for your crowd funded / angel invested / IPO / ICO / ITO "Let's get Spoetnik" fund
hopefully it will not mysteriously disappear when the guy runs off with it ;)
you guys should get bluemeanie to collect it up LOL

edit:
Oh and by the way..
i challenge the assertion yet again that this "experiment" coin is deemed a success.. it is STILL continually dropping in value as i said it would.


Title: Re: Lawyer Smack Down 2014
Post by: iantunc on October 29, 2014, 04:16:06 AM
@Zer0Sum & HYP that was pretty damn funny super mega happy ROFL'z Dance Time  ;D

@iantunc
learn how the basics of stock forum system work before giving us insults back on coin tech you can not comprehend kid..
you will lose less credibility that way.. adorable you would have been better off saying nothing at all son LOL

First i advise learning how to click buttons ;)

let us know how the lawsuits are working out.. have your lawyer talk to my lawyer ok ?
I had him just finish recently shit kick the fuck out of Paypal where i won my case 100% over a Bitcoin issue
..but if you want some too my lawyer will gladly shell out some beats..
he REALLY loves whaling on toddlers for fun  :o

I usually don't read your posts, but if I'll decide to make a precedent, I'll hire a firm and the community will support me and crowdfund this project. I understand that you have some mental disorders, but I recommend you to think about the future.

Having "mental disorders" is not a crime.. good luck with the crowd funded (IPO) lawsuit though..

May i suggest just contacting this forum user and using the existing crowd funded project to come get me ?
http://pastebin.com/sDV6rWiB
That is a log of a PM i got here where someone is trying to raise money/coins to come get me.
This was from the distinguished forum user here Mr. SpoetniksFucked = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=369938

Disclaimer:
Investing in IPO's is a risky idea whether your hiring a Lawyer, Hacker or Hitman.
my advice is to simply avoid them ALL !
But if you guys insist ? then best of luck with your "Let's Get Spoetnik IPO"
I have gotten plenty of threats before and none of them worked just to let you know eh HYP'sters.

I will cross my fingers for your crowd funded / angel invested / IPO / ICO / ITO "Let's get Spoetnik" fund
hopefully it will not mysteriously disappear when the guy runs off with it ;)
you guys should get bluemeanie to collect it up LOL

edit:
Oh and by the way..
i challenge the assertion yet again that this "experiment" coin is deemed a success.. it is STILL continually dropping in value as i said it would.

After these words you are not a threat for HYP. But you are a person whose main behavior driver is coin killing, either for idea or for money. In the world of business nobody will let you go with impunity, it's only the matter of time. Such cases should be prevented if we want cryptocurrencies to have a healthy ecosystem. 


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 29, 2014, 04:45:27 AM
@iantunc

Your "world of business" with it's "healthy ecosystem" revolves around you investing money into a "professional" digital currency (#1,340)
only problem is the guys that make it consider it to be an Experiment at your expense (posted along side other scams in a forum allowing scamming)

You may have made a bad choice in investing your money but it is still not too late for me to give people a fair and honest warning.

I think it's obvious to everybody that my intention is not destroy a coin and rather to help all of crypto to be healthy.
and running unneeded obviously bad "experiments" on gullible people for bitcoin profit rather than just using test net with friends is destructive to crypto.

So don't blame me i did not buy the coin nor did i dump the coin.. that is ALL you guys.
I think CENT coin for example, was more than enough of an experiment to render doing it again fruitless.. we all KNOW what the outcome is !

By the way your dev just said i had some "good points" so how you guys decide to handle that is your business.
i am just doing my job, putting FACTS on the table.

All i am hearing is threats because i am criticizing your Ponzi scheme.
And all i am asking for is the bare minimum.. run your Pyramid scheme with the absolute bare minimum of honesty.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on October 29, 2014, 04:56:16 AM
why only hyperstake?..
how about HBN,TEK,etc...
and i think all cryptocoin are ponzy scheme


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 29, 2014, 05:06:57 AM
@iantunc

Your "world of business" with it's "healthy ecosystem" revolves around you investing money into a "professional" digital currency (#1,340)
only problem is the guys that make it consider it to be an Experiment at your expense (posted along side other scams in a forum allowing scamming)

You may have made a bad choice in investing your money but it is still not too late for me to give people a fair and honest warning.

I think it's obvious to everybody that my intention is not destroy a coin and rather to help all of crypto to be healthy.
and running unneeded obviously bad "experiments" on gullible people for bitcoin profit rather than just using test net with friends is destructive to crypto.

So don't blame me i did not buy the coin nor did i dump the coin.. that is ALL you guys.
I think CENT coin for example, was more than enough of an experiment to render doing it again fruitless.. we all KNOW what the outcome is !

By the way your dev just said i had some "good points" so how you guys decide to handle that is your business.
i am just doing my job, putting FACTS on the table.

All i am hearing is threats because i am criticizing your Ponzi scheme.
And all i am asking for is the bare minimum.. run your Pyramid scheme with the absolute bare minimum of honesty.

You forgot that almost any cryptocurrency has no real value ATM and can be considered Ponzi. You also don't realize that it is not only a technical but also a financial experiment which is impossible to conduct on a testnet. People are warned about risks, and you will do a good job for the planet Earth if you would just repeat this warning for them but not try to convince them that they are being fooled. You can't realize what benefit this experiment could give to humanity, but hope you will be able to do it soon.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 29, 2014, 10:36:07 AM
why only hyperstake?..
how about HBN,TEK,etc...
and i think all cryptocoin are ponzy scheme


no bullshit !
if you don't know why i don't think you read this topic.. go back to page one and start again, seriously !
that logic is silly nonsense and you know it.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on October 29, 2014, 10:48:13 AM
why only hyperstake?..
how about HBN,TEK,etc...
and i think all cryptocoin are ponzy scheme


no bullshit !
if you don't know why i don't think you read this topic.. go back to page one and start again, seriously !
that logic is silly nonsense and you know it.

what you get from this,.
whatever your coins,whoever you are
lets play fair
no need to drop each other
let investors to choose,.its free market


Title: Re: [HYP] HyperStake HYPER Ponzi Scheme
Post by: Spoetnik on October 29, 2014, 10:49:27 AM
@iantunc
..

You forgot that almost any cryptocurrency has no real value ATM and can be considered Ponzi. You also don't realize that it is not only a technical but also a financial experiment which is impossible to conduct on a testnet. People are warned about risks, and you will do a good job for the planet Earth if you would just repeat this warning for them but not try to convince them that they are being fooled. You can't realize what benefit this experiment could give to humanity, but hope you will be able to do it soon.

We're not debating crypto currencies.. we're debating HYP.
i said test net AND friends.. there is no reason they could not find a way to simulate markets or something.
got the time to work endlessly on an experiment coin then maybe work on a suitable place to run the experiment too
such as an exchange that supports simulations not requiring our Bitcoin to go in their pocket.

saying these guys are running an experiment is not the same as all coins.
for starters other coins don't tell there users it's a RISKY experiment as you just claimed..
which i might add is compete bullshit !
You will not be hearing about any risks from the devs or little HYP'ster bag holders on Poloniex's chat  ::)

Feel free to keep churning out the moronic HYP'ster drivel i am sure everyone is chomping at the bit to throw all their Bitcoin at your HYP coins !

And that raises a good point now doesn't it ? If you shit coin is so great then why are you so desperate to get all of our Bitcoin to sell them to us ?
Seems to me if it was ? You guys would be clutching them and haording them but your not !
You guys are dumping them on guys and bragging on about your profit on Poloniex's chat box.. i seen it with my own eyes.
and the market prices prove this too.. stake, dump and the price drops more and again and again..

one guy told me on Polo's Troll Box i think it was CrazyLoaf that he stakes a pile of HYP coins then sells off the coins earned from staking.

That is a ponzi scheme !


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on October 29, 2014, 10:56:47 AM
reward from block and value and price from market
so,.let the market to decide


Title: Re: [HYP] HyperStake HYPER Ponzi Scheme
Post by: iantunc on October 29, 2014, 11:55:55 AM

We're not debating crypto currencies.. we're debating HYP.
i said test net AND friends.. there is no reason they could not find a way to simulate markets or something.
got the time to work endlessly on an experiment coin then maybe work on a suitable place to run the experiment too
such as an exchange that supports simulations not requiring our Bitcoin to go in their pocket.

saying these guys are running an experiment is not the same as all coins.
for starters other coins don't tell there users it's a RISKY experiment as you just claimed..
which i might add is compete bullshit !
You will not be hearing about any risks from the devs or little HYP'ster bag holders on Poloniex's chat  ::)

Feel free to keep churning out the moronic HYP'ster drivel i am sure everyone is chomping at the bit to throw all their Bitcoin at your HYP coins !

And that raises a good point now doesn't it ? If you shit coin is so great then why are you so desperate to get all of our Bitcoin to sell them to us ?
Seems to me if it was ? You guys would be clutching them and haording them but your not !
You guys are dumping them on guys and bragging on about your profit on Poloniex's chat box.. i seen it with my own eyes.
and the market prices prove this too.. stake, dump and the price drops more and again and again..

one guy told me on Polo's Troll Box i think it was CrazyLoaf that he stakes a pile of HYP coins then sells off the coins earned from staking.

That is a ponzi scheme !

HYP is a cryptocurrency, so we are debating cryptocurrencies.

Holders are not interested in dumping, they don't want to spoil the exchange rate. The rate was absolutely stable and growing before you started your fud.

It's not your business who does crowdfund this project and for what reasons. People can burn their money if they want.

This coin is not intended to make you reach (but it can end up doing so).

This experiment must be conducted in real conditions. It is a currency, and it should have the liquidity even on the early stages. Developers can't control holders (but they can educate them to prevent dumping), and holders can say whatever they want. No seller will propose you downsides of his product in the first place. All risk warnings are in the OP (and in links from it) of the main (ANN) thread.

If you can't distinguish MLM from a Ponzi scheme (or most likely don't want), I would like to advise you to learn how the distribution network of such brands as Amway works. You also can go on promoting this coin. You give no valuable arguments, only insults (which no one of us does mind) and personal distorted opinions.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on October 29, 2014, 02:06:07 PM
ok guys your mission working good right now,..price down
so what the next coin for your target..
and i wanna know what actually your coin...


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 29, 2014, 07:12:15 PM
ok guys your mission working good right now,..price down
so what the next coin for your target..
and i wanna know what actually your coin...

Price is going down because your cult leader devs are selling the 600,000 HYP they earn every 10 days from their fraudulent private ICO scam. (all the while convincing their flock to buy at market)

These criminals allowed the public to participate in their ICO for less than a day, while they (presstab, David Latapie) and a few other insiders got to purchase all the TRK they could in the weeks before announcing the fork. Then edited the fork date out afterwards.

Notice how they no longer post in this thread, they have absolutely nothing to say. The PM's presstab refers to in my previous post are obviously fake. Support HYP if you support criminals.




Title: Re: [HYP] HyperStake HYPER Ponzi Scheme
Post by: Zer0Sum on October 29, 2014, 09:03:58 PM

Dude, you sound like a crazy 80 year old woman. Grow a set of balls, please.

You cannot be bothered to even read the Wikipedia entry for "ponzi scheme"... 
Or maybe the definition is too complex for a hysterical little bitch that owns 2 million JackPot coins.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: iantunc on October 29, 2014, 09:23:51 PM
ok guys your mission working good right now,..price down
so what the next coin for your target..
and i wanna know what actually your coin...

Price is going down because your cult leader devs are selling the 600,000 HYP they earn every 10 days from their fraudulent private ICO scam.

Proofs?

No proofs, no claims.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 29, 2014, 10:09:36 PM
ok guys your mission working good right now,..price down
so what the next coin for your target..
and i wanna know what actually your coin...

Price is going down because your cult leader devs are selling the 600,000 HYP they earn every 10 days from their fraudulent private ICO scam.

These criminals allowed the public to participate in their ICO for less than a day, while they (presstab, David Latapie) and a few other insiders got to purchase all the TRK they could in the weeks before announcing the fork. Then edited the fork date out afterwards.

Notice how they no longer post in this thread, they have absolutely nothing to say. The PM's presstab refers to in my previous post are obviously fake. Support HYP if you support criminals.


Proofs?

No proofs, no claims.

What do you think.. they're framing it, hanging it on the wall and calling it modern art?  ::)

iantunc, you never replied to my previous post. So what are your thoughts on the criminal devs getting caught in an obvious lie trying to defend their scam? You're ok with it? What are your thoughts on the criminals allowing the public less than a day to purchase TRK to get their free HYP, while they were able to buy it weeks beforehand, and then editing the fork date out afterwards. You're ok with that as well?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: EyesWideOpen on October 29, 2014, 11:35:50 PM
What do you think.. they're framing them, hanging them on the wall and calling it modern art?  ::)

With all the other coins under their hood, you'd think they have enough artwork to start an an exhibition.  8)


Title: any other lies you wanna post clowns ?
Post by: Spoetnik on October 30, 2014, 12:38:24 AM

Dude, you sound like a crazy 80 year old woman. Grow a set of balls, please.

You cannot be bothered to even read the Wikipedia entry for "ponzi scheme"... 
Or maybe the definition is too complex for a hysterical little bitch that owns 2 million JackPot coins.


ya you showed me.. by making up lies LOL

http://i59.tinypic.com/21dg8z7.jpg


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on October 30, 2014, 01:29:38 AM
ok guys i think this debate never finish,.
so the points is who like HYP stay with them and who don't like hyp just leave them
no need to drop each other
criminal ?..personally i salute with presstab
he responded very quikly when i and my friends had a problem
i never get it from other developer


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 30, 2014, 02:26:17 AM
ya so once again you guys line up to call me a liar and i prove you wrong and you hide..  ::)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: candlesticks on October 30, 2014, 02:38:09 AM
Yeah HYP is some pretty cool shit, you wouldn't make a thread if it wasn't.

You guys should just deal with it. Join the party, or go home and masturbate.



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 30, 2014, 09:45:35 AM
Yeah HYP is some pretty cool shit, you wouldn't make a thread if it wasn't.

You guys should just deal with it. Join the party, or go home and masturbate.

Thanks for sharing your insights. When you're done washing your hands, your leaders have strategically placed sell orders that need filling.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 30, 2014, 10:17:25 AM
It's all yours boss ;)

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 30, 2014, 09:03:09 PM
What do you think.. they're framing them, hanging them on the wall and calling it modern art?  ::)

With all the other coins under their hood, you'd think they have enough artwork to start an an exhibition.  8)


https://i.imgur.com/Jvtbxez.png

 :D


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 30, 2014, 09:09:25 PM
Zeewolf that is some nice work you put in there, HYP is looking as good as it runs now w000t w000t!!

That's my pleasure! I'm glad that my work is appreciated by community and gives us one of the best looking Qt wallet out there in cryptoworld. Expect more, as I'm not stopping my efforts to make it even better.

regardless of my thoughts on HYP i gotta give you props on a nice wallet ;)
ever considered doing some freelance work for Jackpotcoin ?

the link they would not click on..


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on October 31, 2014, 12:05:09 AM
It's all yours boss ;)

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.

sorry,.that is just my experiences and my friends experiences,.
I also have several coin,not only HYP,.. with different developer and different experiences with them


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on October 31, 2014, 12:44:24 PM
HYP supporters be like:

https://i.imgur.com/fChNEAN.jpg


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: btcsnippers on October 31, 2014, 07:08:37 PM
<lol> 16 pages of 2 fudders vs the trolled <lol>



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on October 31, 2014, 08:34:03 PM
<lol> 16 pages of 2 fudders vs the trolled <lol>



More like four :P It was fun for a minute.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on October 31, 2014, 09:12:19 PM
<lol> 16 pages of 2 fudders vs the trolled <lol>



and it has died off hard like we said and the idiots were dumped on and they holding worthless HYP coins now.. laughing.
go look at the price charts..


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on November 01, 2014, 07:27:10 PM
It's all yours boss ;)

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.

sorry,.that is just my experiences and my friends experiences,.
I also have several coin,not only HYP,.. with different developer and different experiences with them


Mig-23, you sound like a reasonable guy. You don't mind the HYP devs made up fake PM's, and edited the fork/launch date to try and draw attention away from their scam?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: gribgo on November 01, 2014, 07:27:55 PM
<lol> 16 pages of 2 fudders vs the trolled <lol>



and it has died off hard like we said and the idiots were dumped on and they holding worthless HYP coins now.. laughing.
go look at the price charts..

"FUD first and ask questions later !" - this is Spoetniks credo :) So why do you people care of this attempt to get some cheap HYP


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on November 02, 2014, 04:36:59 AM
It's all yours boss ;)

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.

sorry,.that is just my experiences and my friends experiences,.
I also have several coin,not only HYP,.. with different developer and different experiences with them


Mig-23, you sound like a reasonable guy. You don't mind the HYP devs made up fake PM's, and edited the fork/launch date to try and draw attention away from their scam?

i only say based in my experiences
about scam do you have enough informations and data about it
or this is just your own descriptions..
I do not defend anyone,I just do not like the act of defamation...


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on November 02, 2014, 12:40:09 PM
FACT 1: HYP devs allowed the public hours to participate in their ICO, when they knew it was going to be forked weeks beforehand. Proof is in the OP

FACT 2: Knowing Fact 1 is highly illegal, they edited the fork date out of the present day ANN.

Regarding the fake PM's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9363110#msg9363110), I wonder why the criminals refuse to prove they exist ::)

Draw your own conclusions whether this is a legitimate "experiment" or just another scam designed to separate you from your Bitcoins.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on November 02, 2014, 02:31:26 PM
FACT 1: HYP devs allowed the public hours to participate in their ICO, when they knew it was going to be forked weeks beforehand. Proof is in the OP

FACT 2: Knowing Fact 1 is highly illegal, they edited the fork date out of the present day ANN.

Regarding the fake PM's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9363110#msg9363110), I wonder why the criminals refuse to prove they exist ::)

Draw your own conclusions whether this is a legitimate "experiment" or just another scam designed to separate you from your Bitcoins.

only that ,.i saw 3 data/informations and then you make the conclusion

if i make conclusions,i need time ,need complete informations and must be netral
so the conclusions will be valid


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: rel-oad on November 02, 2014, 02:36:37 PM
You haven't exposed anything in 16 pages of this thread. It's also not entertaining. You should be quiet now.



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on November 02, 2014, 03:12:37 PM
You haven't exposed anything in 16 pages of this thread. It's also not entertaining. You should be quiet now.

Thanks for sharing your neutral, unbiased opinion.


https://i.imgur.com/0C16rv8.png
https://i.imgur.com/22Wow1P.png



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: rel-oad on November 02, 2014, 03:52:35 PM
You haven't exposed anything in 16 pages of this thread. It's also not entertaining. You should be quiet now.

Thanks for sharing your neutral, unbiased opinion.


https://i.imgur.com/0C16rv8.png
https://i.imgur.com/22Wow1P.png



Oh No, I'm exposed!!!!!eleven

LOL.

'Hypnotique'.

Embarrassing.

You haven't exposed anything in 16 pages of this thread. It's also not entertaining. You should be quiet now.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on November 02, 2014, 04:10:06 PM
ok,..just boring with this threads...
only spend my time ...up to you guys,talk to your self  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: EyesWideOpen on November 02, 2014, 04:31:49 PM
You haven't exposed anything in 16 pages of this thread. It's also not entertaining. You should be quiet now.

Thanks for sharing your neutral, unbiased opinion.


https://i.imgur.com/0C16rv8.png
https://i.imgur.com/22Wow1P.png



So two more posters accumulating a dead coin with a missing developer.
Are they stupid, or do they have insider information about a planned fork?
I hope someone can find the time to identify other cronies of David Latapie and Presstab who were accumulating coins before the fork.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: breakbeater on November 02, 2014, 04:39:19 PM
I remember presstab posting in TEK (or HBN thread) about forking TRK and creating a new High POS coin, so supporters of POS coins knew about HYP launch. You FUDsters need to shut the fuck up and mind your own business.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on November 02, 2014, 04:51:43 PM
I remember presstab posting in TEK (or HBN thread) about forking TRK and creating a new High POS coin, so supporters of POS coins knew about HYP launch. You FUDsters need to shut the fuck up and mind your own business.

Nah, let 'em talk. It's free publicity. Everyone do their due dilligence, that's all.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: EyesWideOpen on November 02, 2014, 05:01:46 PM
I remember presstab posting in TEK (or HBN thread) about forking TRK and creating a new High POS coin, so supporters of POS coins knew about HYP launch. You FUDsters need to shut the fuck up and mind your own business.

We are doing something here David. We are trying to prevent you and your cronies from scamming noobs.
I have a challenge for you.
Presstab earlier posted this.


And via PM from David:
Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).

No grace.
What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.


The phrasing of the sentences do not sound like you at all. It looks like something you and Presstab made up together as usual.
If you dare allow theymos or a Hero-level escrow to view that chain of messages and confirm their actually existence, it would prove both of you are not lying psychopathic scumbags who would cheat and lie just to make some money. If those private messages exists, it would prove I don't know what I am talking about and I will no longer have any credibility to say anything at all. It would prove the sneaky edits in the ANN thread were not malicious.

Do you and your sycophant Presstab dare take up this challenge, David Latapie, or will you make up some excuses to get out of this? Please don't try to get your cronies to verify the messages. Theymos, Badbear, Maidak, Tysat, John K, Danny Hamilton, Tomatocage, gmaxwell or people of similar stature would do nicely.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: tokyoghetto on November 02, 2014, 05:16:52 PM
I remember presstab posting in TEK (or HBN thread) about forking TRK and creating a new High POS coin, so supporters of POS coins knew about HYP launch. You FUDsters need to shut the fuck up and mind your own business.

+1. There was no insider information about the fork. I was buying up TRK and mining at the same time, even when it seemed like the dev had abandoned the coin. It seemed like a nice long bet, considering the coin was stable and already trading on Bittrex. In the end TRK did get a new dev, noise23. So even without HYP, TRK is trading above its historical lows and those that stuck with TRK generated a nice profit.

A lot of people who knew about HYP still managed to screw it up, as they bought TRK but didn't move the coins to their own wallet, then save a copy of the wallet. They thought that any TRK would transfer into HYP. So they kept their TRK on the exchange and missed out on HYP.

One thing people need to remember is that David and Presstab had to buy into their own coin. Its not like they had 1 million TRK and converted it into 1 million HYP. I remember when HYP first traded on coin-swap and Presstab buying up 100k HYP @ 1k SAT. So that is 1 BTC for 100k HYP. His own money, his own risk.

haters are going to hate I guess.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on November 02, 2014, 06:11:12 PM
haters are going to hate I guess.

Explain why the grace period was so short if there was no scam intended, and the launch/fork date edited out afterwards.

Explain why the criminals made up PM's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9363110#msg9363110) and refuse to confirm the legitimacy to this day if there was no scam intended.



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on November 02, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
haters are going to hate I guess.

Explain why the grace period was so short if there was no scam intended, and the launch/fork date edited out afterwards.

Explain why the criminals made up PM's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9363110#msg9363110) and refuse to confirm the legitimacy to this day if there was no scam intended.



Second one, I wouldn't answer you either when your account is clearly a secondary one. I have no information as to the truth or falsity of your claim.

First one. I know Press pretty well in the electronic world. He's bloody impatient. I personally agree with you that it should have been longer. But it was hardly fraudulent. His impatience costs him sometimes, but it also drive him to put out a lot of good work very fast. Like many traits in a man, it's a dual edged sword. I started off with very little, still ain't got a lot, but I've done ok. A great many "legit" coins have done me far worse. Aside from being friendly with Press (and later, David), I had little prior warning either, and bloodly nearly nothing to invest. I'm ok with it. Mistakes were made, but I've seen NOTHING to indicate to me that they are scamming.

edit for typo.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: breakbeater on November 02, 2014, 07:44:29 PM
haters are going to hate I guess.

Explain why the grace period was so short if there was no scam intended, and the launch/fork date edited out afterwards.

Explain why the criminals made up PM's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9363110#msg9363110) and refuse to confirm the legitimacy to this day if there was no scam intended.



All of you FUDsters and trolls are like diarrhea, tolerable but so damn irritating.....

Why none of you trolled about so called "HYP scam" when the price was 500 sats???

Now suddenly you all think of yourself like some kind of "Noob saviours" when the coin is more than 3 months old.


Title: Refuting bullshit
Post by: David Latapie on November 02, 2014, 07:59:23 PM
Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.0) of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9293644#msg9293644), that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ (http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/FUD_FAQ), as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on November 02, 2014, 08:00:34 PM
Hey asshole, are you not enjoying the free publicity?

Talk to your leader about the PM's.



Title: Re: Refuting bullshit
Post by: Hypnotique on November 02, 2014, 08:04:51 PM
Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.0) of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9293644#msg9293644),that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ (http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/FUD_FAQ), as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

Confirm the PM's or GTFO


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: presstab on November 02, 2014, 08:14:56 PM
In case anyone forgot, these questions have been answered already. Hypnotique just knows that nobody cares enough to read through the entire thread to find em. So here you go:

Fork Time Changed because the fork took longer than expected (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9338689#msg9338689)
Block explorer time of fork: 07-07-14 04:01:55 http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/block?block=31781
Planned Fork Time (still in the code) : https://github.com/presstab/HyperStake/blob/master/src/main.h#L43
Code:
static const unsigned int FORK_TIME = 1404678625; // Sun, 06 Jul 2014 20:30:25 GMT


"Fake" PM's
David, presstab.. have you decided which moderator or trusted community member will be verifying the existence of the PM's you posted?

If the PM's are confirmed legitimate, I will relinquish control of this Hypnotique account to the mod/community member.

They are of course legitimate. And your offer is cute, a new thread and sock puppet will be created and it will all start over. Nobody cares, and all of the accusations have been answered. Get over it.


It looks like I will have to repost these answers every few days, because that is about how long it takes for Hypnotique to get amnesia, but no worries. Not that big of a deal really.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 02, 2014, 08:18:44 PM
haters are going to hate I guess.

Explain why the grace period was so short if there was no scam intended, and the launch/fork date edited out afterwards.

Explain why the criminals made up PM's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9363110#msg9363110) and refuse to confirm the legitimacy to this day if there was no scam intended.



All of you FUDsters and trolls are like diarrhea, tolerable but so damn irritating.....

Why none of you trolled about so called "HYP scam" when the price was 500 sats???

Now suddenly you all think of yourself like some kind of "Noob saviours" when the coin is more than 3 months old.

Nobody heard about it.. the brutal spamming Poloniex allowed to go on with their chat box is what made me take notice.
before that i never heard of TRK or HYP.
You think every guy in crypto reads every stupid shitcoin ANN topic here ? LOL


Title: Re: Refuting bullshit
Post by: Spoetnik on November 02, 2014, 08:23:20 PM
Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.0) of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9293644#msg9293644),that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ (http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/FUD_FAQ), as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

If your asked questions answer them and move on..

insulting some of us and saying ignore us is some pretty fucking dumb ass bullshit LOL

don't hide like a bitch.. man up ..after dumping your fucking "experiment" on us all (for Bitcoin) Mr Dev.
grow a pair and accept responsibility for your actions.

crying FUD/Troll then fuck em and avoid guys.. it's the official scammers seal LOL

unless you don't care and want profit on any coin no matter how scammy it is  ::)
many of you would scream, Take my money at NAMBLA coin if you thought it would buy you a Lambo.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 02, 2014, 08:25:46 PM
i bet my left nut David Latapie is rpietila (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68520)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: presstab on November 02, 2014, 08:27:01 PM
In case anyone forgot, these questions have been answered already. Hypnotique just knows that nobody cares enough to read through the entire thread to find em. So here you go:

Fork Time Changed because the fork took longer than expected (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9338689#msg9338689)
Block explorer time of fork: 07-07-14 04:01:55 http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/block?block=31781
Planned Fork Time (still in the code) : https://github.com/presstab/HyperStake/blob/master/src/main.h#L43
Code:
static const unsigned int FORK_TIME = 1404678625; // Sun, 06 Jul 2014 20:30:25 GMT


"Fake" PM's
David, presstab.. have you decided which moderator or trusted community member will be verifying the existence of the PM's you posted?

If the PM's are confirmed legitimate, I will relinquish control of this Hypnotique account to the mod/community member.

They are of course legitimate. And your offer is cute, a new thread and sock puppet will be created and it will all start over. Nobody cares, and all of the accusations have been answered. Get over it.


It looks like I will have to repost these answers every few days, because that is about how long it takes for Hypnotique to get amnesia, but no worries. Not that big of a deal really.

Forgot to add that there is a new version of the HyperStake wallet released today, check it out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678849.msg9416112#msg9416112


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on November 02, 2014, 08:30:28 PM
In case anyone forgot, these questions have been answered already. Hypnotique just knows that nobody cares enough to read through the entire thread to find em. So here you go:


"Fake" PM's
David, presstab.. have you decided which moderator or trusted community member will be verifying the existence of the PM's you posted?

If the PM's are confirmed legitimate, I will relinquish control of this Hypnotique account to the mod/community member.

They are of course legitimate. And your offer is cute, a new thread and sock puppet will be created and it will all start over. Nobody cares, and all of the accusations have been answered. Get over it.


It looks like I will have to repost these answers every few days, because that is about how long it takes for Hypnotique to get amnesia, but no worries. Not that big of a deal really.

Let me understand this. You think the question of the PM's is answered because you quoted an earlier response of yours that proves nothing? Not very bright are you  ::)

It's clear to everyone the PM's were manufactured by you and your accomplice David Latapie.

I bet you regret mentioning the phantom PM's in the first place. If only you were more intelligent. Maybe then you wouldn't need to scam for a living.


Title: Re: Refuting bullshit
Post by: David Latapie on November 02, 2014, 08:32:13 PM
Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.0) of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9293644#msg9293644),that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ (http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/FUD_FAQ), as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

Confirm the PM's or GTFO
The burden of proof is on you, not on us. YOU are the plaintiff, YOU contact the "legal" powers (here, Theymos). "The necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges." (semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit)

Quote from: Wikipedia - Legal Burden of Proof
He who does not carry the burden of proof carries the benefit of assumption, meaning he needs no evidence to support his claim. Fulfilling the burden of proof effectively captures the benefit of assumption, passing the burden of proof off to another party.

Plus, as presstab mentionned, should the PM offer be accepted (and at least on the ground of above-mentionned principles, we will not), a new thread and sock puppet would be created and it would all start over."

In the future, presstab, I will also repost your part. When I am not around, you can repost mine too :)

Also, new argument: Hypnotique had 0 posts when he started this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388661;sa=showPosts;start=60). ZERO post means zero credibility per se, only his arguments could have some and they all have been debunked.

Edit: same for EyesWideOpen - ZERO post before this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388953;sa=showPosts)


Title: Re: Refuting bullshit
Post by: Hypnotique on November 02, 2014, 08:42:25 PM
Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.0) of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9293644#msg9293644),that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ (http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/FUD_FAQ), as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

Confirm the PM's or GTFO
The burden of proof is on you, not on us. YOU are the plaintiff, YOU contact the "legal" powers (here, Theymos). "The necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges." (semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit)

Quote from: Wikipedia - Legal Burden of Proof
He who does not carry the burden of proof carries the benefit of assumption, meaning he needs no evidence to support his claim. Fulfilling the burden of proof effectively captures the benefit of assumption, passing the burden of proof off to another party.

Plus, as presstab mentionned, should the PM offer be accepted (and at least on the ground of above-mentionned principles, we will not), a new thread and sock puppet would be created and it would all start over."

In the future, presstab, I will also repost your part. When I am not around, you can repost mine too :)

Also, new argument: Hypnotique had 0 posts when he started this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388661;sa=showPosts;start=60). ZERO post means zero credibility per se, only his arguments could have some and they all have been debunked.

Edit: same for EyesWideOpen - ZERO post before this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388953;sa=showPosts)

Typical to try and wiggle your way out of it with more of your bullshit.

Facts are facts, aren't they. Regardless of where they come from. If you confirmed the PM's, even a new sock puppet would have no credibility since you will have already proven yourselves.

You won't confirm the PM's because they don't exist.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 02, 2014, 08:43:11 PM
i bet my left nut David Latapie is rpietila (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68520)

Ahahahahaha! Wow Spoetnik, you're just funny now. I really hope you're at least buying into XMR and HYP with all this FUD you're throwing around.

I am way too busy but i have suspected them for a while..
if anything there is some occasional fishy'ness that made me think that..
true or not i don't know i need to do some digging real soon.. if it's true i will have 'em.

Spoetnik ALWAYS gets his man !

PS:
crying FUD is uhhh brilliant.. keep it up LOL


Title: Re: Refuting bullshit
Post by: EyesWideOpen on November 02, 2014, 08:51:15 PM
Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.0) of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9293644#msg9293644),that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ (http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/FUD_FAQ), as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

Confirm the PM's or GTFO
The burden of proof is on you, not on us. YOU are the plaintiff, YOU contact the "legal" powers (here, Theymos). "The necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges." (semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit)

Quote from: Wikipedia - Legal Burden of Proof
He who does not carry the burden of proof carries the benefit of assumption, meaning he needs no evidence to support his claim. Fulfilling the burden of proof effectively captures the benefit of assumption, passing the burden of proof off to another party.

Plus, as presstab mentionned, should the PM offer be accepted (and at least on the ground of above-mentionned principles, we will not), a new thread and sock puppet would be created and it would all start over."

In the future, presstab, I will also repost your part. When I am not around, you can repost mine too :)

Also, new argument: Hypnotique had 0 posts when he started this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388661;sa=showPosts;start=60). ZERO post means zero credibility per se, only his arguments could have some and they all have been debunked.

David, no one asked Presstab to share the PMs between the two of you. He offered it voluntarily to "trolls" and "fudsters" in an attempt to defend you (I think you probably told him to do that). However the purported PMs between the two of you which he posted looked seriously fake. These are the alleged PMs.

And via PM from David:
Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).

No grace.
What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.


When I ask him and you to verify the PMs with respected Hero forums members or escrows, he immediately started sending me PMs. When that didn't work, you and him asked everyone to stop responding to the thread. When that didn't work, he suddenly claimed he won't respond to 'trolls" and "fudsters", despite voluntarily posting the PMs in the first place. Now you suddenly claim even if Presstab did verify the PMs, new threads will be created asking to verify those PMs again. If that actually happens, you or anyone from the Hyperstake community could just easily quote the confirmation.

I have specifically said that I will stop posting in this thread if you two can confirm the existence of the PMs. Hypnotique went a step further and even offered to hand over his account to you two. You two can end this thread right now by proving the existence of the PMs.

I think it's very obvious to everyone that both of you are liars. The only question that remains is, how many other lies have the two of you concocted?






Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: NewLiberty on November 02, 2014, 08:57:19 PM
i bet my left nut David Latapie is rpietila (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68520)

I will take this bet.
Who will escrow?


Title: Re: Refuting bullshit
Post by: presstab on November 02, 2014, 09:13:09 PM
Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.0) of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9293644#msg9293644),that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ (http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/FUD_FAQ), as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

Confirm the PM's or GTFO
The burden of proof is on you, not on us. YOU are the plaintiff, YOU contact the "legal" powers (here, Theymos). "The necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges." (semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit)

Quote from: Wikipedia - Legal Burden of Proof
He who does not carry the burden of proof carries the benefit of assumption, meaning he needs no evidence to support his claim. Fulfilling the burden of proof effectively captures the benefit of assumption, passing the burden of proof off to another party.

Plus, as presstab mentionned, should the PM offer be accepted (and at least on the ground of above-mentionned principles, we will not), a new thread and sock puppet would be created and it would all start over."

In the future, presstab, I will also repost your part. When I am not around, you can repost mine too :)

Also, new argument: Hypnotique had 0 posts when he started this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388661;sa=showPosts;start=60). ZERO post means zero credibility per se, only his arguments could have some and they all have been debunked.

Edit: same for EyesWideOpen - ZERO post before this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388953;sa=showPosts)

Yeah good point David. I think these trolls think in the same way that many of the world's oppressive governments do: guilty until proven innocent. Maybe these are government trolls?  To bad they are too big of cowards to use their real usernames.  What would they have to lose by using their real names?

So since we assume guilty until proven innocent, I am going to say these are communist government trolls, and unless they prove otherwise by having their governments prove their identity, I will assume they are filthy fiat communist government trolls  :D  ;D ;D  :o  8)


Title: Re: Refuting bullshit
Post by: Hypnotique on November 02, 2014, 09:27:02 PM
Yeah good point David. I think these trolls think in the same way that many of the world's oppressive governments do: guilty until proven innocent. Maybe these are government trolls?  To bad they are too big of cowards to use their real usernames.  What would they have to lose by using their real names?

So since we assume guilty until proven innocent, I am going to say these are communist government trolls, and unless they prove otherwise by having their governments prove their identity, I will assume they are filthy fiat communist government trolls  :D  ;D ;D  :o  8)

What a ridiculous argument. Post the PM's or GTFO retard.


Title: Re: Refuting bullshit
Post by: presstab on November 02, 2014, 09:32:57 PM
Yeah good point David. I think these trolls think in the same way that many of the world's oppressive governments do: guilty until proven innocent. Maybe these are government trolls?  To bad they are too big of cowards to use their real usernames.  What would they have to lose by using their real names?

So since we assume guilty until proven innocent, I am going to say these are communist government trolls, and unless they prove otherwise by having their governments prove their identity, I will assume they are filthy fiat communist government trolls  :D  ;D ;D  :o  8)

What a ridiculous argument. Post the PM's or GTFO retard.

oooo or else what? Its not moderated thread. You gunna like post in all caps or something?


Title: Re: Refuting bullshit
Post by: David Latapie on November 02, 2014, 09:39:18 PM
So since we assume guilty until proven innocent, I am going to say these are communist government trolls, and unless they prove otherwise by having their governments prove their identity, I will assume they are filthy fiat communist government trolls  :D  ;D ;D  :o  8)
And Spoetnik is a Russian communist. Look at his nick: it is an unambiguous hommage to the first Russian artificial satellite, Sputnik.

The power of presumption of guilt :)

Spoetnik: this is just a joke, nothing implied here.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: crypto_chellie on November 02, 2014, 11:15:53 PM
It's all yours boss ;)

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.


This didn't last very long....


Title: Re: Refuting bullshit
Post by: Spoetnik on November 03, 2014, 12:11:10 AM
So since we assume guilty until proven innocent, I am going to say these are communist government trolls, and unless they prove otherwise by having their governments prove their identity, I will assume they are filthy fiat communist government trolls  :D  ;D ;D  :o  8)
And Spoetnik is a Russian communist. Look at his nick: it is an unambiguous hommage to the first Russian artificial satellite, Sputnik.

The power of presumption of guilt :)

Spoetnik: this is just a joke, nothing implied here.

how is your shit not gone for spam ?

offtopic ?

the comments from Crazyloaf above ? and most of the others ? WTF ?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 03, 2014, 12:15:13 AM
It's all yours boss ;)

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.


This didn't last very long....


I changed my fucking mind because these scammers won't quit while their ahead and they went right back to playing dumb and provoking us all.

you people make me sick with your spamming trolling games to mouth people off and avoid talking about what it is exactly that countless people have a problem with.

whining and crying about me or any person that criticizes your scam coin is not going to make it seem legit i can assure you.
nor is it going to make us go away either.

consider using your brain for once..

all you guys are doing is playing Spam Bitcointalk fro attention games and if you can bad mouth then bonus why ?


Title: Re: Refuting bullshit
Post by: Spoetnik on November 03, 2014, 12:15:34 AM
Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.0) of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9293644#msg9293644),that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ (http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/FUD_FAQ), as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

Confirm the PM's or GTFO
The burden of proof is on you, not on us. YOU are the plaintiff, YOU contact the "legal" powers (here, Theymos). "The necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges." (semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit)

Quote from: Wikipedia - Legal Burden of Proof
He who does not carry the burden of proof carries the benefit of assumption, meaning he needs no evidence to support his claim. Fulfilling the burden of proof effectively captures the benefit of assumption, passing the burden of proof off to another party.

Plus, as presstab mentionned, should the PM offer be accepted (and at least on the ground of above-mentionned principles, we will not), a new thread and sock puppet would be created and it would all start over."

In the future, presstab, I will also repost your part. When I am not around, you can repost mine too :)

Also, new argument: Hypnotique had 0 posts when he started this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388661;sa=showPosts;start=60). ZERO post means zero credibility per se, only his arguments could have some and they all have been debunked.

Edit: same for EyesWideOpen - ZERO post before this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388953;sa=showPosts)

Typical to try and wiggle your way out of it with more of your bullshit.

Facts are facts, aren't they. Regardless of where they come from. If you confirmed the PM's, even a new sock puppet would have no credibility since you will have already proven yourselves.

You won't confirm the PM's because they don't exist.

THIS IS WHY


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on November 03, 2014, 12:20:06 AM
It's all yours boss ;)

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.


This didn't last very long....


I changed my fucking mind because these scammers won't quit while their ahead and they went right back to playing dumb and provoking us all.

you people make me sick with your spamming trolling games to mouth people off and avoid talking about what it is exactly that countless people have a problem with.

whining and crying about me or any person that criticizes your scam coin is not going to make it seem legit i can assure you.
nor is it going to make us go away either.

consider using your brain for once..

all you guys are doing is playing Spam Bitcointalk fro attention games and if you can bad mouth then bonus why ?

Don't you hate it when people do what you do?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 03, 2014, 12:23:16 AM
It's all yours boss ;)

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.


This didn't last very long....


I changed my fucking mind because these scammers won't quit while their ahead and they went right back to playing dumb and provoking us all.

you people make me sick with your spamming trolling games to mouth people off and avoid talking about what it is exactly that countless people have a problem with.

whining and crying about me or any person that criticizes your scam coin is not going to make it seem legit i can assure you.
nor is it going to make us go away either.

consider using your brain for once..

all you guys are doing is playing Spam Bitcointalk fro attention games and if you can bad mouth then bonus why ?

Don't you hate it when people do what you do?

no not at all and what is that Captain snotty & vague ?

you have a big fucking mouth with nothing behind it.. i have proven how my mouth works.. you all shudder and piss yourselves.

sit down and shut the fuck up coin cloner.. and keep digging smart ass ;)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on November 03, 2014, 12:45:20 AM
It's all yours boss ;)

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.


This didn't last very long....


I changed my fucking mind because these scammers won't quit while their ahead and they went right back to playing dumb and provoking us all.

you people make me sick with your spamming trolling games to mouth people off and avoid talking about what it is exactly that countless people have a problem with.

whining and crying about me or any person that criticizes your scam coin is not going to make it seem legit i can assure you.
nor is it going to make us go away either.

consider using your brain for once..

all you guys are doing is playing Spam Bitcointalk fro attention games and if you can bad mouth then bonus why ?

Don't you hate it when people do what you do?

no not at all and what is that Captain snotty & vague ?

you have a big fucking mouth with nothing behind it.. i have proven how my mouth works.. you all shudder and piss yourselves.

sit down and shut the fuck up coin cloner.. and keep digging smart ass ;)

No, While I was gonna pack it in, ya done irritated me. I gave you all the ammunition you could possibly need if you had half the skills you claim. C'mon, "coin cloner?" You can't do any better than something you dreamed?

You've irritated me, but I'm past that. Now I'm simply amused. Every once in a while it's just straight up fun to step into a battle of wits with somebody who's totally unarmed.

There has been nothing vague in my replies, so now let's get serious, shall we?

I couldn't clone a coin if I had to to save my life. C++ looks about the same as Babylonian to me, and I don't have a rosetta stone. My skill is words, logic, and debate. But I have a grasp of english that you will never acquire, and if I choose to use logical fallacies, it IS a choice, not the default of a short circuited level of development. Your constant use of strawmen is pretty much proof positive that you have neither the wit, intestinal fortitude, nor skill to back even one allegation you've made towards me. Not too mention that you made most of it up from whole cloth. What's more, you know it, I know it, everybody who reads this knows it. The only reason I continue to engage is that I hope to drive you beyond the brink from which what passes for your mind simply can't recover. Don't know if I'll succeed, but I'll have fun doing it. I'll be that shadow in the back of your eye every fucking time you lie about me or my friends. I'll be the guy pointing out every stupid thing that spews forth from your unprincipled, disordered psyche. With the passage of sufficient time, should your obsession continue, I won't even have to do anything. My voice will become one of the many in your diseased imagination telling you "yes, do it. pull the trigger!"

When you implode, I will be there, laughing.



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on November 03, 2014, 12:48:00 AM
It's all yours boss ;)

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.


This didn't last very long....


I changed my fucking mind because these scammers won't quit while their ahead and they went right back to playing dumb and provoking us all.

you people make me sick with your spamming trolling games to mouth people off and avoid talking about what it is exactly that countless people have a problem with.

whining and crying about me or any person that criticizes your scam coin is not going to make it seem legit i can assure you.
nor is it going to make us go away either.

consider using your brain for once..

all you guys are doing is playing Spam Bitcointalk fro attention games and if you can bad mouth then bonus why ?

Don't you hate it when people do what you do?

no not at all and what is that Captain snotty & vague ?

you have a big fucking mouth with nothing behind it.. i have proven how my mouth works.. you all shudder and piss yourselves.

sit down and shut the fuck up coin cloner.. and keep digging smart ass ;)

Why don't you and your fag fuck cocksucker BFF HyptnocockTEKfucker go fuck off.
Oh, come now. Hypnotique mounted a coherent attack. I think it without merit, but it's not the ramblings of a diseased mind. I don't think He deserves to be conflated with Spoetnik.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: presstab on November 03, 2014, 01:08:24 AM
These communist style fiat trolls is what bitcoin is trying to get away from. Its sad that this forum is being allowed to be destroyed by them.

Everyone that uses HYP knows that it is not a scam. Now move along fiat trolls.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 03, 2014, 01:38:22 AM
These communist style fiat trolls is what bitcoin is trying to get away from. Its sad that this forum is being allowed to be destroyed by them.

Everyone that uses HYP knows that it is not a scam. Now move along fiat trolls.

Can you quit crying like a baby for 5 minutes ?
fuck every fucking day all the time nooooon stop ..FUD this and Trolls that ..fuck it gets old !
grow the fuck up already.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: presstab on November 03, 2014, 03:17:20 AM

Can you quit crying like a baby for 5 minutes ?
fuck every fucking day all the time nooooon stop ..FUD this and Trolls that ..fuck it gets old !
grow the fuck up already.

LAWL you crack me up man.


Title: spoiled brats push scam then whine and cry FUD and Troll
Post by: Spoetnik on November 03, 2014, 05:42:33 AM

Can you quit crying like a baby for 5 minutes ?
fuck every fucking day all the time nooooon stop ..FUD this and Trolls that ..fuck it gets old !
grow the fuck up already.

LAWL you crack me up man.

Good at least you stopped crying for two minutes while i jingle my keys  ::)

http://pavelsjewelry.com/img/keys1.jpg

an off-topic reply to an off-topic reply..uhh what was i saying ?
since i don't even think you can manage to scroll up to check i will give you a hint.. it was about being on topic and whining.
but i am sure you will be back to it right quick..

uhh communism ? WTF ? really ?
uuhhh yeah ok i guess i am advocating communism.. who knew ? LOL
i hate being the last to now things :(


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on November 03, 2014, 06:51:16 AM
i bet my left nut David Latapie is rpietila (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68520)

actually,.what your missions
what your motivations?
what your coins?
it seems you really feel threatened by HYP
let's compete fairly



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 03, 2014, 07:20:38 AM
I think i see now why these guys started lashing out and whining..

http://i58.tinypic.com/14kcrcj.jpg

PS: I told you so.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Hypnotique on November 03, 2014, 01:06:41 PM
These communist style fiat trolls is what bitcoin is trying to get away from. Its sad that this forum is being allowed to be destroyed by them.

Everyone that uses HYP knows that it is not a scam. Now move along fiat trolls.

The forum is being destroyed by scammers such as yourself and David Latapie, presstab.

Fiat trolls? Is this your new tactic to distract from getting caught manufacturing PM's? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9416567#msg9416567)

"Nothing to see here, just a bunch of internet trolls making accusations. Move along now." - no other scammer has ever said that before  ::)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 03, 2014, 02:33:57 PM
I am officially changing their name from HYP'sters to FUD'sters


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on November 03, 2014, 03:13:00 PM
I am officially changing their name from HYP'sters to FUD'sters

'officially'? What office do you hold, precisely?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 03, 2014, 03:25:53 PM
I am officially changing their name from HYP'sters to FUD'sters

'officially'? What office do you hold, precisely?

Altcoin King = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830072.0

my office is Bitcointalk.org


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on November 03, 2014, 03:57:57 PM
I am officially changing their name from HYP'sters to FUD'sters

'officially'? What office do you hold, precisely?

Altcoin King = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830072.0

my office is Bitcointalk.org

Well, I'll be damned :D That was actually a pretty good comeback. There might be hope for you yet.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 03, 2014, 04:20:19 PM
I am officially changing their name from HYP'sters to FUD'sters

'officially'? What office do you hold, precisely?

Altcoin King = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830072.0

my office is Bitcointalk.org

Well, I'll be damned :D That was actually a pretty good comeback. There might be hope for you yet.

I am running and "experiment" today.. i want to see if a human man can die of FUD'ing ?
i say that since i see you like "experiments" ..as you said earlier eh ;)
Can someone be FUD'd to death ? Or just reduced to tears or what ?
These are the questions

I know, I know, but but... he has a Family... blah blah
It will say on the Death certificate.. Cause Of Death: FUD
But won't someone think of the children ???

NO !

DOWN With Babies !
I support the New World Order planned Population culling (Illuminati conspiracy ? i sure hope not !)
Babies have been getting along mighty fine, squeaking by un-noticed for far too long and it's time to take them down a peg !

i am listening to some old metal albums while i Troll the interweb'z..
I just listened to Metallica's classic first album.. FUD 'em ALL
and now i am listening to AC/DC's classic.. For Those Who Are About To FUD.. We Salute You

come join us on IRC and join my experiment muahhahahhahah


Title: Re: Refuting bullshit
Post by: EyesWideOpen on November 07, 2014, 09:57:14 AM
Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.0) of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.msg9293644#msg9293644),that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ (http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/FUD_FAQ), as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

Confirm the PM's or GTFO
The burden of proof is on you, not on us. YOU are the plaintiff, YOU contact the "legal" powers (here, Theymos). "The necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges." (semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit)

Quote from: Wikipedia - Legal Burden of Proof
He who does not carry the burden of proof carries the benefit of assumption, meaning he needs no evidence to support his claim. Fulfilling the burden of proof effectively captures the benefit of assumption, passing the burden of proof off to another party.

Plus, as presstab mentionned, should the PM offer be accepted (and at least on the ground of above-mentionned principles, we will not), a new thread and sock puppet would be created and it would all start over."

In the future, presstab, I will also repost your part. When I am not around, you can repost mine too :)

Also, new argument: Hypnotique had 0 posts when he started this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388661;sa=showPosts;start=60). ZERO post means zero credibility per se, only his arguments could have some and they all have been debunked.

David, no one asked Presstab to share the PMs between the two of you. He offered it voluntarily to "trolls" and "fudsters" in an attempt to defend you (I think you probably told him to do that). However the purported PMs between the two of you which he posted looked seriously fake. These are the alleged PMs.

And via PM from David:
Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).

No grace.
What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.


When I ask him and you to verify the PMs with respected Hero forums members or escrows, he immediately started sending me PMs. When that didn't work, you and him asked everyone to stop responding to the thread. When that didn't work, he suddenly claimed he won't respond to 'trolls" and "fudsters", despite voluntarily posting the PMs in the first place. Now you suddenly claim even if Presstab did verify the PMs, new threads will be created asking to verify those PMs again. If that actually happens, you or anyone from the Hyperstake community could just easily quote the confirmation.

I have specifically said that I will stop posting in this thread if you two can confirm the existence of the PMs. Hypnotique went a step further and even offered to hand over his account to you two. You two can end this thread right now by proving the existence of the PMs.

I think it's very obvious to everyone that both of you are liars. The only question that remains is, how many other lies have the two of you concocted?






 :-*

When Hypsters are left bagholding HYP in a few months time, people will come back to this post.
David and Presstab, your lies here will haunt you on this board forever.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on November 07, 2014, 11:05:13 AM
so the conclusion is,..
all coin is bad except coin created by spoetnik  ;D ;D ;D ;D
the best coin of the year,..hahaha  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: vegasguy on November 07, 2014, 03:15:50 PM
guys, here is the short of it.. you can make a shitload of money on HYP right now and probably for a while, BUT dont stay too long, and be standing right near the exit door during the party, because at some point, there will be a massive fire sale. You know how many people get out when there is a massive fire at a club? The same amount of fiat you will end up with.

http://s8.postimg.org/cr2aoo2d1/hyperstake.jpg


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: MisterGreen on November 07, 2014, 07:14:57 PM
guys, here is the short of it.. you can make a shitload of money on HYP right now and probably for a while, BUT dont stay too long, and be standing right near the exit door during the party, because at some point, there will be a massive fire sale. You know how many people get out when there is a massive fire at a club? The same amount of fiat you will end up with.

http://s8.postimg.org/cr2aoo2d1/hyperstake.jpg


http://i.giphy.com/Hc8PMCBjo9BXa.gif


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: breakbeater on November 07, 2014, 08:48:26 PM
If HYP is considered "A SCAM"...........I am curious what trolls and FUDsters (like Spoetnik) have to say about BALLS :D


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 14, 2014, 11:24:31 PM
If HYP is considered "A SCAM"...........I am curious what trolls and FUDsters (like Spoetnik) have to say about BALLS :D

The difference is the balls guy has been honest about it all unlike thee lying weazle scammers..

I posted on Poloniex chat last night "I told you so" and pointed out how this shit coin went from 10k to 1k
and David Latapie said "it's going great" and i was full of shit because some guy just dumped some coins and that is all it was..
Lying sack of shit ! hahahha

These guys are colossally deceitful right from day fucking one and THAT is the big problem going on here.
When i said that, another guy was saying.. well what was it you said before Spoetnik ?
so i told him LOL

So surprise surprise about 7 guys showed up at once and just fucking Trolled the life out of me.. then we seen a few be nice copy and paste warnings
mean while i am being attacked relentlessly non stop by 6 guys at once with a shitload of insults etc while they scream Troll and FUD and BAN !
Then after i have had been attacked to fuck and back wow surprise surprise i get a warning from ChickenLiver for me to quit it LLOOLOLLOLOLOL
I didn't do sweet fuck all and yet again.. here we go again  ::)
Shit hole exchanges and dipshit moderators warning me after i get fucking Trolled endlessly and i do next to nothing to even reply to them..
This is Cryptsy Chat 101.. been there and done that all across the scene for 1.5 years non stop day in and day out.
You guys really sicken me.. you are horrendous sickening awful people and i hope you feel shamed for your pathetic behavior.
You deceitful snotty brats need to learn to get along and act like an adult.. and be honest for fuck sakes !

I should post the chat logs clown show of lies and games it was fucking hilarious as hell.

These little HYP'ster assholes REALLY do deserve to drown like rats !

edit:
then i was talking after when all of them seemed to have left at once and i even helped a guy with his HYP wallet.
and he was asking me do you think it's Trolling bots ?
I said no i think it's one of them devs etc lurking at polo and then when i criticized the coin they called in the Troll army to attack me from IRC.
and guess what happened a few minutes later ?
One of them shows up and tells the guy to go to Freenode on the HYP coin channel LOLOLOLL

what i really wonder is why does Poloniex tolerate this shit ? i have wonder if they had something to do with making it or received a kick back or something
because i don't get why they allow these little lying scammers to hijack their chat box permanently and troll on guys about it while mod's protect them and back them up.
it doesn't make sense.. and makes the exchange look scammy !


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: doogsan on November 18, 2014, 03:28:37 AM
Another blimp on the radar, there's nothing offered by coins such as these over other more established pos coins. Many of the people on the thread also seem like complete tools  :D


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: dragnar on November 18, 2014, 03:46:57 AM
If HYP is considered "A SCAM"...........I am curious what trolls and FUDsters (like Spoetnik) have to say about BALLS :D

The difference is the balls guy has been honest about it all unlike thee lying weazle scammers..

I posted on Poloniex chat last night "I told you so" and pointed out how this shit coin went from 10k to 1k
and David Latapie said "it's going great" and i was full of shit because some guy just dumped some coins and that is all it was..
Lying sack of shit ! hahahha

These guys are colossally deceitful right from day fucking one and THAT is the big problem going on here.
When i said that, another guy was saying.. well what was it you said before Spoetnik ?
so i told him LOL

So surprise surprise about 7 guys showed up at once and just fucking Trolled the life out of me.. then we seen a few be nice copy and paste warnings
mean while i am being attacked relentlessly non stop by 6 guys at once with a shitload of insults etc while they scream Troll and FUD and BAN !
Then after i have had been attacked to fuck and back wow surprise surprise i get a warning from ChickenLiver for me to quit it LLOOLOLLOLOLOL
I didn't do sweet fuck all and yet again.. here we go again  ::)
Shit hole exchanges and dipshit moderators warning me after i get fucking Trolled endlessly and i do next to nothing to even reply to them..
This is Cryptsy Chat 101.. been there and done that all across the scene for 1.5 years non stop day in and day out.
You guys really sicken me.. you are horrendous sickening awful people and i hope you feel shamed for your pathetic behavior.
You deceitful snotty brats need to learn to get along and act like an adult.. and be honest for fuck sakes !

I should post the chat logs clown show of lies and games it was fucking hilarious as hell.

These little HYP'ster assholes REALLY do deserve to drown like rats !

edit:
then i was talking after when all of them seemed to have left at once and i even helped a guy with his HYP wallet.
and he was asking me do you think it's Trolling bots ?
I said no i think it's one of them devs etc lurking at polo and then when i criticized the coin they called in the Troll army to attack me from IRC.
and guess what happened a few minutes later ?
One of them shows up and tells the guy to go to Freenode on the HYP coin channel LOLOLOLL

what i really wonder is why does Poloniex tolerate this shit ? i have wonder if they had something to do with making it or received a kick back or something
because i don't get why they allow these little lying scammers to hijack their chat box permanently and troll on guys about it while mod's protect them and back them up.
it doesn't make sense.. and makes the exchange look scammy !

never did you hear of poloniex and there ipo scam called mil ( millionaires coin ) now renamed to millenniumcoin

its was 100% a scam ( tread sucked ass things made no sens and so on ) troll box was pissed of that they  supported the coin

while the MODS of poliniex promoted the ipo and said they would hold escrow and release coins slowly and trying to ease every one into buying it  ( promoting it and trying to stop the peeps screaming it was a pile of shit )

then wen the ipo was closed ( and the btc released to the dev ) who u guessed it made a RUN whit the money ( they washed there hands and said we only offered the ipo bla bla  ) < there own coin ?

mind u this was way b4 bitturex started whit there mass ipo scams

wen this shit happened many ( and i mean a lot ) of peeps left poloniex as there trading site


there eating of the same plate as the scammers ?

edit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633914.0 < this ipo LOL

as u can read the dev sold a premine ( for btc trough ipo ) and also had a premine ( for development / rewards < LOL )


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: doogsan on November 18, 2014, 04:29:49 AM
Millionaire coin looks awesome, anyone want to sell to me?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: vegasguy on November 19, 2014, 01:02:50 PM
If HYP is considered "A SCAM"...........I am curious what trolls and FUDsters (like Spoetnik) have to say about BALLS :D

The difference is the balls guy has been honest about it all unlike thee lying weazle scammers..

I posted on Poloniex chat last night "I told you so" and pointed out how this shit coin went from 10k to 1k
and David Latapie said "it's going great" and i was full of shit because some guy just dumped some coins and that is all it was..
Lying sack of shit ! hahahha

These guys are colossally deceitful right from day fucking one and THAT is the big problem going on here.
When i said that, another guy was saying.. well what was it you said before Spoetnik ?
so i told him LOL

So surprise surprise about 7 guys showed up at once and just fucking Trolled the life out of me.. then we seen a few be nice copy and paste warnings
mean while i am being attacked relentlessly non stop by 6 guys at once with a shitload of insults etc while they scream Troll and FUD and BAN !
Then after i have had been attacked to fuck and back wow surprise surprise i get a warning from ChickenLiver for me to quit it LLOOLOLLOLOLOL
I didn't do sweet fuck all and yet again.. here we go again  ::)
Shit hole exchanges and dipshit moderators warning me after i get fucking Trolled endlessly and i do next to nothing to even reply to them..
This is Cryptsy Chat 101.. been there and done that all across the scene for 1.5 years non stop day in and day out.
You guys really sicken me.. you are horrendous sickening awful people and i hope you feel shamed for your pathetic behavior.
You deceitful snotty brats need to learn to get along and act like an adult.. and be honest for fuck sakes !

I should post the chat logs clown show of lies and games it was fucking hilarious as hell.

These little HYP'ster assholes REALLY do deserve to drown like rats !

edit:
then i was talking after when all of them seemed to have left at once and i even helped a guy with his HYP wallet.
and he was asking me do you think it's Trolling bots ?
I said no i think it's one of them devs etc lurking at polo and then when i criticized the coin they called in the Troll army to attack me from IRC.
and guess what happened a few minutes later ?
One of them shows up and tells the guy to go to Freenode on the HYP coin channel LOLOLOLL

what i really wonder is why does Poloniex tolerate this shit ? i have wonder if they had something to do with making it or received a kick back or something
because i don't get why they allow these little lying scammers to hijack their chat box permanently and troll on guys about it while mod's protect them and back them up.
it doesn't make sense.. and makes the exchange look scammy !

.... and who said the game is over?? Just because the price dropped. Has not 99% of the alt coins out there dropped too? So bitcoin was at $1200 at one point, that mean its game over for that too? Price will return, youll see. Game is FAR from over.

Signed

Hypster Asshole



Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 19, 2014, 09:06:03 PM
If HYP is considered "A SCAM"...........I am curious what trolls and FUDsters (like Spoetnik) have to say about BALLS :D

The difference is the balls guy has been honest about it all unlike thee lying weazle scammers..

I posted on Poloniex chat last night "I told you so" and pointed out how this shit coin went from 10k to 1k
and David Latapie said "it's going great" and i was full of shit because some guy just dumped some coins and that is all it was..
Lying sack of shit ! hahahha

These guys are colossally deceitful right from day fucking one and THAT is the big problem going on here.
When i said that, another guy was saying.. well what was it you said before Spoetnik ?
so i told him LOL

So surprise surprise about 7 guys showed up at once and just fucking Trolled the life out of me.. then we seen a few be nice copy and paste warnings
mean while i am being attacked relentlessly non stop by 6 guys at once with a shitload of insults etc while they scream Troll and FUD and BAN !
Then after i have had been attacked to fuck and back wow surprise surprise i get a warning from ChickenLiver for me to quit it LLOOLOLLOLOLOL
I didn't do sweet fuck all and yet again.. here we go again  ::)
Shit hole exchanges and dipshit moderators warning me after i get fucking Trolled endlessly and i do next to nothing to even reply to them..
This is Cryptsy Chat 101.. been there and done that all across the scene for 1.5 years non stop day in and day out.
You guys really sicken me.. you are horrendous sickening awful people and i hope you feel shamed for your pathetic behavior.
You deceitful snotty brats need to learn to get along and act like an adult.. and be honest for fuck sakes !

I should post the chat logs clown show of lies and games it was fucking hilarious as hell.

These little HYP'ster assholes REALLY do deserve to drown like rats !

edit:
then i was talking after when all of them seemed to have left at once and i even helped a guy with his HYP wallet.
and he was asking me do you think it's Trolling bots ?
I said no i think it's one of them devs etc lurking at polo and then when i criticized the coin they called in the Troll army to attack me from IRC.
and guess what happened a few minutes later ?
One of them shows up and tells the guy to go to Freenode on the HYP coin channel LOLOLOLL

what i really wonder is why does Poloniex tolerate this shit ? i have wonder if they had something to do with making it or received a kick back or something
because i don't get why they allow these little lying scammers to hijack their chat box permanently and troll on guys about it while mod's protect them and back them up.
it doesn't make sense.. and makes the exchange look scammy !

.... and who said the game is over?? Just because the price dropped. Has not 99% of the alt coins out there dropped too? So bitcoin was at $1200 at one point, that mean its game over for that too? Price will return, youll see. Game is FAR from over.

Signed

Hypster Asshole



Seriously are you brain damaged ? I really want to know.

no. 1
The price has dropped since it went to 10k sat's all day and all night non stop.. down down down down down down

no. 2
It is obvious why.. Read some pages back.. This was an "experiment" coin with HIGH stake.
But it wasn't because we already all know what will happen.. what HAS happened the price will be decimated LONG term !
dropping more and more until it's worth 0

and you have the nerve to run your mouth at me and play dumb ?
Go check CENT coin then come back and apologize to me and admit your were wrong. LOL

So why did they NEED to do an experiment and lie about it in every way they can ? To get your fucking god damn Bitcoin of course  ::)

Bitcointalk is full of little maggot pieces of shit that earn a living from lying their ass off.
This is just more of it.
There was never any need to run an experiment on the public here.. the majority of us all know damn well what the outcome was..
No sane - AND HONEST - investor would ever seriously invest in garbage like this
and especially not being run by dishonest children who paid veteran coin cloners for coding work etc.
They are a gang of Trolls and thieves and liars and childish brats.. pushing a shit coin they know damn well is garbage and doomed.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on November 20, 2014, 04:29:32 PM
i know spoetnik
only the coin created by you will be the best in around the world,.. ;D ;D ;D
because you are scammed people  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: rocoro on November 20, 2014, 06:17:01 PM
i know spoetnik
only the coin created by you will be the best in around the world,.. ;D ;D ;D
because you are scammed people  ;D ;D ;D

Or the worst coin,  because he's just a troll. 





Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on November 21, 2014, 04:17:31 PM
i know spoetnik
only the coin created by you will be the best in around the world,.. ;D ;D ;D
because you are scammed people  ;D ;D ;D

Or the worst coin,  because he's just a troll. 





Now come on. That's very insulting. You owe the trolls an apology for the comparison.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Ense04 on November 21, 2014, 07:30:09 PM
i know spoetnik
only the coin created by you will be the best in around the world,.. ;D ;D ;D
because you are scammed people  ;D ;D ;D

Or the worst coin,  because he's just a troll. 





Now come on. That's very insulting. You owe the trolls an apology for the comparison.

I dissagree. No one needs to apologize.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 21, 2014, 09:05:16 PM
I have nothing to defend.. i have not made a coin or provided a service of any kind
unlike Biomech saying on previous pages he was paid to make experiment coins for kids to flog around here
..that he knew damn well was doomed to failure !
I would love to see if he wants to play dumb about that LOL
If you really are that dumb then you should not be writing coin code for anyone buddy.

Further more making up bold face lies about me personally will not make your gay shitty experiment coin worth more.
but feel free to keep it up.. it makes you all look like name calling little 5 year olds.. (not adults)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Ense04 on November 21, 2014, 09:24:23 PM
I have nothing to defend.. i have not made a coin or provided a service of any kind
unlike Biomech saying on previous pages he was paid to make experiment coins for kids to flog around here
..that he knew damn well was doomed to failure !
I would love to see if he wants to play dumb about that LOL
If you really are that dumb then you should not be writing coin code for anyone buddy.

Further more making up bold face lies about me personally will not make your gay shitty experiment coin worth more.
but feel free to keep it up.. it makes you all look like name calling little 5 year olds.. (not adults)

Dude, seriously. STFU. You come accross as the biggest F'n turd everytime you post your FUD BS.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on November 21, 2014, 10:12:13 PM
I have nothing to defend.. i have not made a coin or provided a service of any kind
unlike Biomech saying on previous pages he was paid to make experiment coins for kids to flog around here
..that he knew damn well was doomed to failure !
I would love to see if he wants to play dumb about that LOL
If you really are that dumb then you should not be writing coin code for anyone buddy.

Further more making up bold face lies about me personally will not make your gay shitty experiment coin worth more.
but feel free to keep it up.. it makes you all look like name calling little 5 year olds.. (not adults)

Again, you lie blatantly. I have not said anything of the sort, nor will I. I have to date made no coins. Couldn't if I tried, as of this point, though I must thank you for turning me on to the writings of shakezulu. It has taught me a lot about coding that I didn't know.

There are many things one can accuse me of and have them be true. I'll cop to 'em, too. DO NOT accuse me of your fantasies. I've nothing to do with them, and any role I play in them is entirely on you.

I resorted to ad hominem against you for amusement. I need not de-construct your arguments, you do that with no assistance.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 27, 2014, 02:48:18 PM
what you said is on previous pages.. i suggest you re-read what you typed out ;)

And yes i postulated you were Shakezulu and i had good reason i outlined.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: kingpin69 on November 29, 2014, 03:11:08 AM
what you said is on previous pages.. i suggest you re-read what you typed out ;)

And yes i postulated you were Shakezulu and i had good reason i outlined.

since simple reasoning doesn't seem to work with fucktards how about some maths?

top 10 wallets as a percentage of overall coins...

M - (Maieutcoin) top 10 wallets own 56.98% of the total coin supply
XQN (Quotient) - top 10 wallets own  48.11% of the total coin supply
CAP (Bottlecaps) - top 10 wallets own 38.0% of the total coin supply
BALLS (Snowballs) - top 10 wallets own 37.7% of the total coin supply
HBN (Hobonickels) - top 10 wallets own 30.44% of the total coin supply
JPC (Spoetniks oh so great jackpotcoin) top 10 wallets own 28.30% of the total coin supply
HYP (Hyperstake) - top 10 wallets own 22.0% of the total coin supply

I would have done more but TEK don't seem to have a working explorer/richlist and neither does your other favourite maxcoin lol.

so much for your HYPothesis on it being a ponzi pfft.

looks like its got a better distribution model than most, and the top wallets haven't dumped any large amount of coins which can be checked with the block explorer.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on November 29, 2014, 11:18:18 AM
what you said is on previous pages.. i suggest you re-read what you typed out ;)

And yes i postulated you were Shakezulu and i had good reason i outlined.

since simple reasoning doesn't seem to work with fucktards how about some maths?

top 10 wallets as a percentage of overall coins...

M - (Maieutcoin) top 10 wallets own 56.98% of the total coin supply
XQN (Quotient) - top 10 wallets own  48.11% of the total coin supply
CAP (Bottlecaps) - top 10 wallets own 38.0% of the total coin supply
BALLS (Snowballs) - top 10 wallets own 37.7% of the total coin supply
HBN (Hobonickels) - top 10 wallets own 30.44% of the total coin supply
JPC (Spoetniks oh so great jackpotcoin) top 10 wallets own 28.30% of the total coin supply
HYP (Hyperstake) - top 10 wallets own 22.0% of the total coin supply

I would have done more but TEK don't seem to have a working explorer/richlist and neither does your other favourite maxcoin lol.

so much for your HYPothesis on it being a ponzi pfft.

looks like its got a better distribution model than most, and the top wallets haven't dumped any large amount of coins which can be checked with the block explorer.

Who are you and why do i give two flyin' shits what you think ?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: breakbeater on November 29, 2014, 07:56:25 PM
@Spoetnik
Why should we, give a flying f*ck about what YOU think??


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Biomech on November 30, 2014, 04:31:51 AM
what you said is on previous pages.. i suggest you re-read what you typed out ;)

And yes i postulated you were Shakezulu and i had good reason i outlined.

foaming at the keys and flinging wild accusations is hardly what I would call good reason. Or reason at all, for that matter.

But whatever. Can't talk to a psycho like a normal human being.

I do however reiterate: to date, I have not been directly involved in the coding development of ANY coin except Tech (not TEK) where I altered a few lines of code in the .pro file to make it compile under Unbuntu. I did this because I use ubuntu and the .pro file had lines in it that were windows specific, causing it to crash the compile.

I was part of Team Earthcoin as a writer (prose, not code) until other obligations made that impossible.

Now that you have shown me the writing of shakezulu, I very well might try my hand at developing a coin. Won't be soon, and probably won't be for profit as I'm just trying to learn more about coding. But what the hell.

I'm done with this.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on November 30, 2014, 08:18:42 AM
@spoetnik
maybe price dropped but not scam until now
balls dropped but not scam until now,..
litecoin price dropped but not scam too until now
so your predictions just bullshit like sissy


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on December 03, 2014, 11:10:27 PM
Quote
why do u hate hyp so much? i dont get it
I hate all scams. Read the OP again if you still don't understand why people should have a problem with this.

A legit coin would have modified the latest Peercoin source and had a normal launch, and if they had nothing to hide why edit the fork date out afterwards? Kinda important don't you think?


I'm sorry, legit coin? How many coins have you coded again?

The only one hiding anything is your chicken shit ass.



And why does making coins (cloning them) mean anything ?
99.99% of all these so called coders here do is copy and entire code base and then mod a few things..

Seems these HYP'sters are bending over backwards attacking the coin Balls now.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868657.new#new
I am not surprised because i noticed some of the cheerleaders for HYP coin start talking about BALLS on polo's chat instead
and figured 3,2,1.. here come the Bitcointalk attack and sure enough LOL

I've been offered some coins for both Balls and HYP and never got around to getting a wallet or receiving any coins and i never ever had any of either ever !
I have not gotten along with iGotSpots in the past either but i think he is being attacked unfairly because he stole HYP's thunder and their bag holding advertisers LOL
I find that funny how he stole their user base out from under them.. LOL poor HYP'sters hahahha

EDIT:
@Mig-23
I predict you say some more crap about my sissy predictions.. want to place a wager on that ?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM
Post by: billotronic on December 04, 2014, 12:07:31 AM
Quote
why do u hate hyp so much? i dont get it
I hate all scams. Read the OP again if you still don't understand why people should have a problem with this.

A legit coin would have modified the latest Peercoin source and had a normal launch, and if they had nothing to hide why edit the fork date out afterwards? Kinda important don't you think?


I'm sorry, legit coin? How many coins have you coded again?

The only one hiding anything is your chicken shit ass.



And why does making coins (cloning them) mean anything ?
99.99% of all these so called coders here do is copy and entire code base and then mod a few things..

Seems these HYP'sters are bending over backwards attacking the coin Balls now.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868657.new#new
I am not surprised because i noticed some of the cheerleaders for HYP coin start talking about BALLS on polo's chat instead
and figured 3,2,1.. here come the Bitcointalk attack and sure enough LOL

I've been offered some coins for both Balls and HYP and never got around to getting a wallet or receiving any coins and i never ever had any of either ever !
I have not gotten along with iGotSpots in the past either but i think he is being attacked unfairly because he stole HYP's thunder and their bag holding advertisers LOL
I find that funny how he stole their user base out from under them.. LOL poor HYP'sters hahahha

EDIT:
@Mig-23
I predict you say some more crap about my sissy predictions.. want to place a wager on that ?


lol

CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on December 08, 2014, 06:02:41 PM
special gift for spoetnik
 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)


https://i.imgur.com/eUwZnPn.jpg


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: ElTomeko27 on December 20, 2014, 12:34:06 PM
Hyp is not a scam but it's over 66 millions of worthless coins...


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Mig-23 on December 26, 2014, 05:02:06 AM
until now this coin still exist and very very good coin,..
and never scam like your bullshit man...


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: ElTomeko27 on December 27, 2014, 07:14:30 AM
until now this coin still exist and very very good coin,..
and never scam like your bullshit man...

This "very very good" coin is falling down hard and nobody cares anymore..Move on to next shitcoin :)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: BagHolder0fcrap on December 27, 2014, 02:42:21 PM
I know what you're thinking. Not again!!

Yes unfortunately. This latest shitcoin is being pushed hard in the Poloniex/cryptsy trollboxes, bitcointalk forums & social media as a fair coin when it has one of the most fraudulent distribution schemes in crypto so far.

Let's start with the original ANN mirrored here: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-hyp-hyperstake-proof-of-stake-750-annual-fork-launch.338527



Quote
HyperStake will be created via hard fork of an existing coin, TruckCoin. The fork will occur Sun, 06 Jul 2014 20:30:25 GMT.

HyperStake
Faster-than-light crypto

High PoS coins like HBN (100%), CAP(200%), TEK(500%) is not enough? Enter HyperStake, the coin light-years ahead.

What is HYP?

HyperStake is meant to be an experimentation in cryptocurrency economics. Do you like the thrill of living on the bleeding edge, and get the features before the others? Then HyperStake is for you.
We won't experiment for the stake of experimenting. We want the coin to be viable too.
We will listen to you, we will use bounties for offloading work for on you.
HyperStake is using a fork launch, as mentioned above. This means we had to actually buy into the coin instead of creating an IPO or pre-mining. A quick warning that TRK did have a premine of 120k which is mostly spent and is completely unrelated and uncontrolled by the HYP team.

Hyperstake is based on Truckcoin.

Who are the devs?

Captain presstab and Commander davidlatapie are experienced holders and freelance devs of several coins (HBN, TEK, NOBL, TRK, MINT, XMR...). They are currently the only devs but are open to accept pull requests and submission from other community members.

HyperStake Technical Details:

Proof of Stake
90 Second Block Time
Minimum Age ~ 8 days
Maximum Age - 30 days
Annual Interest Rate - 750%
Maximum Stake Subsidy - 1,000 HYP
Recommended Block Size - 1,600 HYP

Why did you fork an existing coin?
After buying into TruckCoin and seeing the diminishing exchange rate because of lack of dev support, we decided to take things into our own hands. We are giving the TRK community a chance to make their coins worth something again. We get to take the coin into our own hands through a voluntary hard fork and we plan on adding many features through time. Join the experiment with us.

If you have TRK right now that you would like to be able to use as HYP, then it will need to be withdrawn from any of the exchanges and held in a wallet. You will then be able to locate the wallet.dat file in the appdata directory in the truckcoin folder. Make a copy of the wallet.dat and copy it over to the hyperstake folder. Note that this does not destroy or transfer your truckcoin or anything like that. If you have TRK before the fork you will essentially double your coins for free.

Wallet
We will release a wallet after the hard fork occurs. We will stake the first forked block and we will checkpoint it into the client, upload the repo, and link everyone to a freshly built wallet.

To Do
- Get an exchange
- Updated logo (right now using very basic design)
- Block explorer
- Website



Seems innocent enough. Since they're forking TRK, i'm sure they've given everyone plenty of time to buy TRK and get free HYP right? Wrong >:(



https://i.imgur.com/E66eVxQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/468h0H5.png


 :o


Mere HOURS, when they knew they were going to fork it weeks in advance  ???

This allowed these schemers to pick up cheap TRK unnoticed prior to launching/forking their new HYP coin (don't worry, i'm sure they didn't do this due to their impeccable morals.. HAHAHAHAHAH) allowing them to get freee HYP at the fork. Not to mention the bags of the TRK shitcoin they were holding which prompted them to start this Hyperscam in the first place.

This is called buying with inside information (insider trading) and it's ILLIGAL! If this were securities/stocks/equities and not crypto, these clowns would be spending years in FEDERAL PRISON for insider trading.

Guaranteed i'm not the only one that has a problem with this distribution scheme... clearly the launch/fork date needed to be edited out of the present day ANN (it has been) else it might raise some questions!

HYP has had close to a 1000% rise in the past few weeks, time to put a stop to this nonsense... shitcoins like this give crypto a bad name. The game is rigged friends and guess who benefits?  Surprise! captain and commander here at the top of the richlist.



https://i.imgur.com/3UqOtGY.png








I wonder if Presstab and David fud'd their own coin. If so, they royally screwed up.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: EyesWideOpen on December 30, 2014, 10:18:35 PM
until now this coin still exist and very very good coin,..
and never scam like your bullshit man...

This "very very good" coin is falling down hard and nobody cares anymore..Move on to next shitcoin :)

It's an 'experiment', you see.
It is not important that they ninja-ed the relaunch, edited the OP, got caught lying about fake PMs or promoted an unsustainable coin without a long term plan.
The only important thing is David, Presstab and their crew makes enough for a fabulous winter holiday!
Don't think the published wallet addresses are the only one they own.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Crestington on December 30, 2014, 11:32:16 PM
until now this coin still exist and very very good coin,..
and never scam like your bullshit man...

This "very very good" coin is falling down hard and nobody cares anymore..Move on to next shitcoin :)

It's an 'experiment', you see.
It is not important that they ninja-ed the relaunch, edited the OP, got caught lying about fake PMs or promoted an unsustainable coin without a long term plan.
The only important thing is David, Presstab and their crew makes enough for a fabulous winter holiday!
Don't think the published wallet addresses are the only one they own.

This has a $60k market cap atm. It's not even worth commenting on anymore tbh. GG Trolls :(

From a code point of view, HyperStake is really well done but not from an economic point of view. It's 750% a year so price will decline but the float is also increasing. Comparing to 2 weeks ago, the price should be about 30% less to keep the same marketcap. The difference between the marketcap between now and 2 weeks ago is about 10% less than what it was.

What I worry about with something like this is continually dropping market price and then having people sell because price is going down, further dropping the price but I guess we'll see how this all plays out.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: ElTomeko27 on December 31, 2014, 02:36:34 PM
Price will drop to 100 sat sooner or later. 74 mln of useless coins... ;)

"HYP is so undervalued now..." :D :D :D

rather still overvalued... ::)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: ElTomeko27 on December 31, 2014, 02:41:39 PM
until now this coin still exist and very very good coin,..
and never scam like your bullshit man...

This "very very good" coin is falling down hard and nobody cares anymore..Move on to next shitcoin :)

It's an 'experiment', you see.
It is not important that they ninja-ed the relaunch, edited the OP, got caught lying about fake PMs or promoted an unsustainable coin without a long term plan.
The only important thing is David, Presstab and their crew makes enough for a fabulous winter holiday!
Don't think the published wallet addresses are the only one they own.

This has a $60k market cap atm. It's not even worth commenting on anymore tbh. GG Trolls :(

THIS HAS A $45k ALREADY. 24h later...


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: vegasguy on January 03, 2015, 01:56:38 AM
guys, here is the short of it.. you can make a shitload of money on HYP right now and probably for a while, BUT dont stay too long, and be standing right near the exit door during the party, because at some point, there will be a massive fire sale. You know how many people get out when there is a massive fire at a club? The same amount of fiat you will end up with.

http://s8.postimg.org/cr2aoo2d1/hyperstake.jpg


This was posted by me on November 7th when price was still healthy.

Vegas


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: CrazyLoaf on January 03, 2015, 02:29:47 AM
Question is did anyone make a shitload? I doubt it, and if they profited, it couldn't have been more than 10-20 BTC.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: ElTomeko27 on January 03, 2015, 03:43:50 PM
HYPERSTAKE BEST COMMUNITY EVER!!! TO DA MOON!!!

Tooo daaa mooooooo... :'( :'( :'(

 ;D VEGASPUMP AN CRAZYDUMP GUYS cmon Grab Your "CHEAP COINS"


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: breakbeater on January 03, 2015, 04:44:18 PM
Question is did anyone make a shitload? I doubt it, and if they profited, it couldn't have been more than 10-20 BTC.
I did, well maybe not a SHITLOAD, but i bought a new PC with X99, 5830k, gtx970, 32GB DDR4 with profits from HYP.
Well done CrazyLoaf, your HYPE worked well for me.  ;)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on December 14, 2015, 04:49:54 AM
what you said is on previous pages.. i suggest you re-read what you typed out ;)

And yes i postulated you were Shakezulu and i had good reason i outlined.

foaming at the keys and flinging wild accusations is hardly what I would call good reason. Or reason at all, for that matter.

But whatever. Can't talk to a psycho like a normal human being.

I do however reiterate: to date, I have not been directly involved in the coding development of ANY coin except Tech (not TEK) where I altered a few lines of code in the .pro file to make it compile under Unbuntu. I did this because I use ubuntu and the .pro file had lines in it that were windows specific, causing it to crash the compile.

I was part of Team Earthcoin as a writer (prose, not code) until other obligations made that impossible.

Now that you have shown me the writing of shakezulu, I very well might try my hand at developing a coin. Won't be soon, and probably won't be for profit as I'm just trying to learn more about coding. But what the hell.

I'm done with this.

You may be "done with this"

But, the coin you were paid to make for David Latapie is alive and well on Stakeminers and Poloniex.

Even though David Latapie stopped spamming the living fuck out of it 24/7 on Polo chat (sanctioned by Staff)

Let me guess he dumped his high-stake load all over PoloTard's and wandered off quietly to embark on his new venture..
Monero Marketing
Sadly the french Police did not like him and his half dozen Monero cohorts antics and arrests / apologies were made.

See the mess you created there Mr.Dev Cloner ?

Shakezulu, Maybe don't take money to clone coins for kids ;)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on December 14, 2015, 04:54:27 AM
Question is did anyone make a shitload? I doubt it, and if they profited, it couldn't have been more than 10-20 BTC.
I did, well maybe not a SHITLOAD, but i bought a new PC with X99, 5830k, gtx970, 32GB DDR4 with profits from HYP.
Well done CrazyLoaf, your HYPE worked well for me.  ;)

Cool. Yeah, didn't work for me. I actually thought it could do something beyond declining in price forever + I thought there would be more community effort. I caught a huge bag at 2k sat on the way down (maybe bought off you ;D ) that made it where I broke even and/or lost a little.

What like i told you it would ? Like just like CENT.
man did you shill the living fuck out of Polo about HYP man WOWOW
And if you said anything slightly negative the mods banned you and let you guys keep spamming.  ::)
Classic Poloniex ROFL

I TOLD YOU SO !

Read the previous pages from way back.. i called it long ago.

Glad that other guy got to buy a new computer off of some chumps gullible / naive investments
on this so called "experiment coin clone"
Proud of yourselves ?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Crestington on December 15, 2015, 06:59:45 AM
what you said is on previous pages.. i suggest you re-read what you typed out ;)

And yes i postulated you were Shakezulu and i had good reason i outlined.

foaming at the keys and flinging wild accusations is hardly what I would call good reason. Or reason at all, for that matter.

But whatever. Can't talk to a psycho like a normal human being.

I do however reiterate: to date, I have not been directly involved in the coding development of ANY coin except Tech (not TEK) where I altered a few lines of code in the .pro file to make it compile under Unbuntu. I did this because I use ubuntu and the .pro file had lines in it that were windows specific, causing it to crash the compile.

I was part of Team Earthcoin as a writer (prose, not code) until other obligations made that impossible.

Now that you have shown me the writing of shakezulu, I very well might try my hand at developing a coin. Won't be soon, and probably won't be for profit as I'm just trying to learn more about coding. But what the hell.

I'm done with this.

You may be "done with this"

But, the coin you were paid to make for David Latapie is alive and well on Stakeminers and Poloniex.

Even though David Latapie stopped spamming the living fuck out of it 24/7 on Polo chat (sanctioned by Staff)

Let me guess he dumped his high-stake load all over PoloTard's and wandered off quietly to embark on his new venture..
Monero Marketing
Sadly the french Police did not like him and his half dozen Monero cohorts antics and arrests / apologies were made.

See the mess you created there Mr.Dev Cloner ?

Shakezulu, Maybe don't take money to clone coins for kids ;)

Biomech is not Shakazulu if that is what you are implying.

I've gotten to know the Hyperstake guys over the last 6 months or so and there are MANY good people around the project. Some early adopters benefited more than others but I do not see it as ever intending as being a scam nor is it even in the same category as CENT which due to a bug created some 50,000% per year and trillions of Coins. HyperStakes inflation is capped at 1000 Coins per Block so it would be very unlikely to ever reach 1 Satoshi.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on December 15, 2015, 01:52:23 PM
I suggest you read the topic Crestington.. that is why it's there.

Believe it or not guys just because you hang around crypto trying to be a nice guy
handing out free coins and sucking each other off does not make your activity "good"

Latapie tried to bribe me on Polo chat too !
Should be trivial for me to get the logs for that too if needed ;)

If anyone can read this topic and Think David Latapie came out a winner here then your an idiot.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on December 29, 2015, 04:08:48 PM
I suggest you read the topic Crestington.. that is why it's there.

Believe it or not guys just because you hang around crypto trying to be a nice guy
handing out free coins and sucking each other off does not make your activity "good"

Latapie tried to bribe me on Polo chat too !
Should be trivial for me to get the logs for that too if needed ;)

If anyone can read this topic and Think David Latapie came out a winner here then your an idiot.

I am sick of you idiots here.

Learn to read and do you homework .


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on August 01, 2016, 12:16:25 AM
special gift for spoetnik
 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)


https://i.imgur.com/eUwZnPn.jpg

WOW thanks what am i suppose to do with "it" ?

Can i sell it for Bitcoin or some awesome HYP coins ?


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on September 12, 2016, 03:07:33 PM
Scam coin delisted.

So fucking asshole fraud's what the fuck did i say before here ?

Still want to get involved with these fraud's like Presstab guys ?
All they will do is keep pumping out more bullshit then lie their ass off about how great it is.
Hype the fucking living shit out of Poloniex chat-box spamming then wander off quietly onto their new shitcoin project when it dies.

again and again.

I TOLD YOU SO FUCKHEADS  8)


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Delawer on September 12, 2016, 04:06:22 PM
Looking for adjust porfolio and learning about crypto, this is making me a bit scared. 4rd post I read, 3rd scam, I only read claims and more claims. Dont you know that there is a place to claim for your lost money? - SEC > 1st square > report ponzi scheme. They also cover cryptos.


Title: Re: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM
Post by: Spoetnik on September 12, 2016, 11:15:55 PM
Looking for adjust porfolio and learning about crypto, this is making me a bit scared. 4rd post I read, 3rd scam, I only read claims and more claims. Dont you know that there is a place to claim for your lost money? - SEC > 1st square > report ponzi scheme. They also cover cryptos.

Oh they are here alright..

http://i65.tinypic.com/35d2536.jpg

https://www.sec.gov/investor/alerts/ia_virtualcurrencies.pdf

..mentions a forum (we all know which one that is)  :D

Nice adoption level crypto.
Notice the Crypto-Currency SEC Investor PONZI / Fraud / Scam warning ALERT posted DEC 2015 ?

..yup "good" news  :D

and..

Let's see a show of hands how many of you knew that existed because of Spoetnik.
Or how many of you did not even know it existed.