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1001  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2020, 09:05:31 PM
People seriously leave their BTC long term on a random centralized website where they don’t control the private keys just to get a reported 4% interest?

You can get over 100% profits quite regularly just by HODLING.

Fuck that!

Not your keys, not your BTC!
Those greedy will hear a news someday that the exchange got hacked.

I hope it does not happen though.
Whether you hope so or not, this news is gonna come out sooner or later anyway... Undecided

On the up side at 4% it'll take around 19yrs to double your bitcoin so you can take out your initial investment and continue collecting interest risk free. On the flip side you can loose everything at any point during those 19yrs. Do you feel lucky, punk? Do you?
1002  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2020, 04:27:41 AM
you have no fear that CSWs insane mind will finish its decent into lunacy and utterly destroying whatever you think bsv is?

No. Users are not forced to accept new versions of SW. Anyone is free to continue using the previously existing version. This nullifies any threat.

Of course, it is likely that nChain is a significant miner, which does lead to some exposure in this regard. But Craig does not hold exclusive chains of power in that organization, and others there are not suicidal. So, somewhat mitigated.

does csw know about this?

he would most likely sue them and take his own devs to court if they ignore his decisions. or split from bsv if they dont listen. just extrapolating this on observed past behavior.

anyway as you say they dont have to follow so it will be intersting as to how long bsv puts up with him.



Seems like the writing is on the wall, CSW becoming a toxic liability and the new BSv directive is to pivot and try to separate BSv from CSW, shills are out in force trying to push this. We should all support CSW in his efforts to sue Ayre for libel. BOSSv (Bitcoin Original Satoshi Super Vision) sounds better too.

Where do you get this tripe?


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Anyone trying to make the case that Craig was not part of the team that created Bitcoin is either a scammer or really really stupid...that is the only two categories given the evidence out there.  ABC conspirators are market manipulators and scammers:
3 Dec 2018 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1069781857057812481

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everyone smart in the industry already knows Craig was the primary member of the Satoshi team.Everyone saying this is not true is stupid or lying or both.  I know people who knew Craig when he invented Bitcoin BSV in 2009:
9 Feb 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1094198473484877825

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yup...Dr Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto...and #BSV is the only real #Bitcoin.  All others are attacking Craig to sell their dysfunctional snake oil crypto products.  Craig has proven this to me directly in a number of ways.
29 Mar 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1111708680305721344

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How do you know someone is a scammer...they are shouting at the top of their lungs that Craig is not Satoshi and they are supporting technology that does not work today.  Simple.
8 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1115368692366434304


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I am still wrapping my head around the panic that is setting in among all the haters now that Craig has decided to prove his legitimate legacy.  They are all free to try to prove their points also, but trolling is not proof, nor is it legal.  :-)
11 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1116585402012323840

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if you publish something that is not true and you are conflicted and have commercial gain to intentionally liable someone...this is illegal pretty much globally.   No amount of misguided "crowd support" changes this fact.  :-)
11 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1116296119758225409

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This industry needs to grow up and Craig proving he is Satoshi is the only way past this Troll attack that is so bad for the industries reputation.  He now has a duty to set the record straight for us all.  The Trolls all know he is Satoshi hence the fear.
15 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1117706922415853569

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this is something like Tesla Edison rivalry...except Craig is both of them and the other side refuse to even discuss technology and only want to censor.   #CraigisSatoshi and the world demands this be proven in court like he wants and the are trying to avoid.  :-)
16 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1118086289553801217

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everyone who tries to stop Craig from proving the truth, by shouting Fraud, is engaged in a type of Fraud against humanity.   they are also clearly conflicted with association with technologies that do not work as good as real Bitcoin SV does.   You can easily see who is involved
17 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1118474455989149698

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Imagine how the Catholic Church would react to Jesus showing up today.  that is how the high priests of the crypto world are reacting to Craig wanting to now prove in court that  he is Satoshi.   They are horrified about what he thinks of their stupid plans. :-)
#CraigisSatoshi
17 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1118430193562079234

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lost in all the troll talking is the duty Craig has to prove he is satoshi. Duty to his peers, shareholders and customers of nChain, his family and friends and the world at large...all who are suffering damages from this horrible cyberbullying of Craig.
#CraigisSatoshi
18 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1118826411278635008

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someone did a decent job pulling together publicly available information that all supports Craig being Satoshi. More will be presented in court to establish his legacy to the judge. Don't believe scammers believe your own eyes...#CraigisSatoshi.
2 May 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1124073715501797377

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I am hoping to have significant proof of #CraigisSatoshi out no later than Tue May 21.  Why wait for Craig's libellous  scammers in court to have all the fun right? :-)
15 May 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1128613856866197504

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everyone who knows me in the gaming industry and pretty much everyone who knows me in general knows that I would not say I had seen proof that Craig was Satoshi if this were not in fact true.
15 May 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1128651333446270977

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For anyone new.  #CraigisSatoshi and everyone in the industry knows this.  They pretend it's not him so others outside the industry are confused so they can keep their scams going.  Everyone attacking Craig is a scammer of some sort.
19 Jun 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1141380359290085378

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Boom! Proof that #CraigisSatoshi has been accepted by US government copyright department.
21 May 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1130809891550126080

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Like I said before...everyone who knows me knows that I would not be saying something publicly unless it was true. #CraigisSatoshi and #BSV is the only real #Bitcoin.  Now we prove it to the world.
21 May 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1130861508357959682

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#CraigisSatosh as I have told you...I know the entire story and since this is true and therefor permanent....I think the world just has to accept and adjust like we all have.  OH ya...BSV is the only real bitcoin also...massive scaling coming.
22 May 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1131217318577659904

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My friend Stefan Mathews was working with Craig on a gaming project in 2008 when Craig was inventing Bitcoin and was given a copy of the white paper that did not include the Satoshi name on a USB and was a few generations before the one Craig published as Satoshi.
22 May 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1131218337332125696

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Doing this if you are not Satoshi only makes you a fraud and in the US you go to jail...Craig is Satoshi so he is the only one that has standing and he is happy to prove it so this is over.
22 May 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1131173863608541185

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This is hilarious. People are signing their names to a clearly libellous statement in the form of a petition. Is there such a thing as a reverse class action?
22 May 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1131200932916670471

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by the way...#CraigisSatoshi and the only scammers are the guys attacking him so he will not expose their scams.  Since they all are promoting shite coins that do not scale, everyone smart is going through the same evolution Jason explains in his piece here.
24 May 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1131899445556187136

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wonder what happens to  #Bitcoin (#BSV), Segwit Coin BTC and alphabet Soup coin (ABC/BCH/BAB) when #CraigisSatoshi gets his million coins once Tulip trust vests Jan 2020 and he dumps Segwit and Alphabet and buys Bitcoin?  Things that make you go hummmm? :-)
26 May 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1132660809652428800

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I have had my lawyers dig through Craig's case.  It is air tight so this is nothing more than a great opportunity to get a UK judge to pronounce Craig Satoshi:
1 Jun 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1134894557315915776

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More strong evidence to add to the overwhelming evidence already public that #CraigisSatoshi.   Anyone contesting this is involved in a scam of some sort that Craig would be against.
29 Jun 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1145009549407150080

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I need to retweet this and add that my lawyers have reviewed all the material that is out there and can confirm it is beyond any doubt that #CraigisSatoshi.  There is a book coming out soon by a respected investigative reporter that comes to the same obvious conclusion.
29 Jun 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1145128312458682368

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So just to try once again to help everyone.  I have had my lawyers review Craigs history and it is beyond any doubt that he is Satoshi.  I know two people personally that knew him when he invented Bitcoin and recall him talking to them about it.  There is NO controversy here.
8 Jul 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1148236768304685056

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Craig has no interest in hurting segwit BTC market because of his massive position, my huge Segwit mining business and the  fact that the business models do not compete AT ALL anymore.   Buy and Hodl vs Earn and Spend.   However he still has to reclaim his legacy as Satoshi.
28 Aug 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1166701027632058368

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yes...I have seen all the evidence that will be released in the court cases in UK.  Its coming quickly so you can digest there.  Kleiman case will likely settle so I don't expect much to come out there.
30 Aug 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1167390008577335296

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Only two groups still insist Craig is not real . Those who know the truth and are  scamming and know Craig is going to call them out so demonise him to deflect and moronic Trolls, not smart enough to know the truth.
31 Aug 2018 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1035762939351982080

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not following it as  am a bit busy, but they are putting the mountain of evidence together as I have seen some of the boxes of historical documents including old versions of the white paper in Craigs handwriting and printed and with his notes and coffee on them and rusty staples.
3 Oct 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1179752662713028609

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everyone smart knows #CraigisSatoshi.  Only Satoshi could write the below and point out what SPV really means.  Another tech now only availble on origininal #Bitcoin #BSV and covered by nChain patents:
9 Oct 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1182067580607094786

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The two guys I know who knew Craig when he invented bitcoin don’t know this person 🎃
6 Nov 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1192045813977042955

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Agreed...however I know for a fact that #CraigisSatoshi and this is easily obviouse to anyone smart using publicly available info.
21 Nov 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1197518826142871552

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a 6 year old can understand that #BSV is the original #Bitcoin protocol so is Bitcoin and no others are.  Yet for some reason no leader  on the other chains can.  I would suspect lying and a connection to why they also deny #CraigisSatoshi
28 Nov 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1199997467938492416

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i will say this one more time.  I or my lawyers have confirmed #CraigisSatoshi beyond any doubt and Craig's lawyers say there is zero doubt in the evidence he is submitting to court next year.  Also to be clear, he has ALL the education he says he has.  He is a polymath.
30 Nov 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1200725734798635008  Huh wtf he's not even sure if it was himself or his lawyer who confirmed

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its a great shot...#CraigisSatoshi is in a good spot these days...everyone smart accepts him as the only possible Satoshi and #BSV as original #Bitcoin.  He is allowed to goof off now a bit.  :-)
8 Dec 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1203728903187189760

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yes, Craig is Satoshi.  I believe there is enough in the public domain for anyone smart to be able to see this but even dim witted folks will understand before 2020 is over so just wait my friend.
28 Dec 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1211003993914261509

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I have seen most of the evidence and I know personally two guys working with Craig in 2008 in gaming who remember him talking about his creating Bitcoin.   there is all the evidence you need public now.  All deniers are scammers.
28 Dec 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1210909366657966080

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thanks, I have proven beyond a doubt to myself and my team that #CraigisSatoshi and that #BSV is original #Bitcoin protocol and has special powers due to its economic model.  Anyone smart should be coming to the same conclusion now.
29 Dec 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1211272805259644928



*Notice Calvin's retweet https://twitter.com/MZietzke/status/1218611090373926919






tl;dr
13 out of 14 kindergartners can spot a pivot (one ate his crayon), but can jbreher?? Btw jbreher did you ever ended up taking sides on Faketoshi? Or still sitting on the sidelines to see how it turns out before jumping in?

So Ayre has proof that Fakeoshi is Satosh but is not showing it to the BSv holders because reasons. Fakeoshi will dump million BTC in january (without having private keys) but Fakeoshi has no interest in hurting segwit BTC. Fuck and apparently now i'm involved in fraud against Humanity. Oh well, guess it's time for a lobotomy so my logic can sleep at night. Ohh he still has these diamonds hanging, so yeah definitely credible

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Anyone actively involved in trying to stop Craig from proving his legitimate legacy to the world is involved in this fraud against Humanity.  We need the Truth now!
The father of Bitcoin is Dr Craig Wright.
17 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1118478622510211073

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I now operate entirely in BCH for everything globally.  I only use suppliers who accept BCH and I keep all my treasury only in Bitcoin BCH...no fiat or alt coins like BTC etc.  The infrastructure is all in place.
23 Apr 2018 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/988548065576521729

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Signature from Key 9?....Satoshi Lives...likely upset at Bitmain and http://Bitcoin.com  for attacking Bitcoin.
16 Nov 2018 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1063513039989813248

1003  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2020, 05:35:13 AM
you have no fear that CSWs insane mind will finish its decent into lunacy and utterly destroying whatever you think bsv is?

No. Users are not forced to accept new versions of SW. Anyone is free to continue using the previously existing version. This nullifies any threat.

Of course, it is likely that nChain is a significant miner, which does lead to some exposure in this regard. But Craig does not hold exclusive chains of power in that organization, and others there are not suicidal. So, somewhat mitigated.

does csw know about this?

he would most likely sue them and take his own devs to court if they ignore his decisions. or split from bsv if they dont listen. just extrapolating this on observed past behavior.

anyway as you say they dont have to follow so it will be intersting as to how long bsv puts up with him.



Seems like the writing is on the wall, CSW becoming a toxic liability and the new BSv directive is to pivot and try to separate BSv from CSW, shills are out in force trying to push this. We should all support CSW in his efforts to sue Ayre for libel. BOSSv (Bitcoin Original Satoshi Super Vision) sounds better too.
1004  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2020, 09:22:32 AM
Confirmed: Craig Wright doesn’t have keys to $8 billion of Bitcoin
Craig Wright’s lawyer says he didn’t receive the private keys to $8 billion worth of Bitcoin and provides an update on the Dave Kleiman court case.


https://decrypt.co/16998/confirmed-craig-wright-doesnt-have-keys-to-8-billion-of-bitcoin

tl;dr: Craig is royally fucked in about 90 days.

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But his lawyer said today that that was not the case.

“The file that he’s received did not include private keys,” Andres Rivero, partner at Rivero Mestre law firm, told Decrypt. However, Wright still expects that he will receive the keys at a later date. Rivero said the keys may come either whole or split into parts, but declined to discuss further the particulars around who has the keys and when they might arrive.

No way! This is a shock! BSVers are jumping off the bridges, markets are going crazy and no one knows how to react to this...oh wait, nope, no one with one brain cell and or even jbreher expected Faketoshi to have the keys!

jbreher logic:
1-Satoshi was a genius who created perfect code, thus we must follow truest implementation of satoshi code!
2-It doesn't matter whether Satoshi is an idiot who can't code, a serial liar and a perjurer who looses every trail he starts
3-

Show me where I ever made that claim.

Fuckin' liar you are, DaRude. Which puts you squarely in the class that you accuse CSW being a member of.

That you shilling BSV because it follows truest implementation of satoshi's code? Or that you claim that it doesn't matter if CSW is Satoshi? Cause it's in like your every other post

The following, you slimy bastahd: "even jbreher expected Faketoshi to have the keys!"

Was supposed to read as nobody with a brain cell (and jbreher) expected Faketoshi to have the keys. I can see how the wording can be confusing. My second bullet further makes the point by saying that you believe it's irrelevant if faketoshi is Satoshi (but BSvers for some reason still need to follow his truest implementation) 
1005  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2020, 01:35:08 AM
Confirmed: Craig Wright doesn’t have keys to $8 billion of Bitcoin
Craig Wright’s lawyer says he didn’t receive the private keys to $8 billion worth of Bitcoin and provides an update on the Dave Kleiman court case.


https://decrypt.co/16998/confirmed-craig-wright-doesnt-have-keys-to-8-billion-of-bitcoin

tl;dr: Craig is royally fucked in about 90 days.

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But his lawyer said today that that was not the case.

“The file that he’s received did not include private keys,” Andres Rivero, partner at Rivero Mestre law firm, told Decrypt. However, Wright still expects that he will receive the keys at a later date. Rivero said the keys may come either whole or split into parts, but declined to discuss further the particulars around who has the keys and when they might arrive.

No way! This is a shock! BSVers are jumping off the bridges, markets are going crazy and no one knows how to react to this...oh wait, nope, no one with one brain cell and even jbreher expected Faketoshi to have the keys!

jbreher logic:
1-Satoshi was a genius who created perfect code, thus we must follow truest implementation of satoshi code!
2-It doesn't matter whether Satoshi is an idiot who can't code, a serial liar and a perjurer who looses every trail he starts
3-

Show me where I ever made that claim.

Fuckin' liar you are, DaRude. Which puts you squarely in the class that you accuse CSW being a member of.

That you shilling BSV because it follows truest implementation of satoshi's code? Or that you claim that it doesn't matter if CSW is Satoshi? Cause it's in like your every other post
1006  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2020, 01:27:55 AM
Confirmed: Craig Wright doesn’t have keys to $8 billion of Bitcoin
Craig Wright’s lawyer says he didn’t receive the private keys to $8 billion worth of Bitcoin and provides an update on the Dave Kleiman court case.


https://decrypt.co/16998/confirmed-craig-wright-doesnt-have-keys-to-8-billion-of-bitcoin

tl;dr: Craig is royally fucked in about 90 days.

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But his lawyer said today that that was not the case.

“The file that he’s received did not include private keys,” Andres Rivero, partner at Rivero Mestre law firm, told Decrypt. However, Wright still expects that he will receive the keys at a later date. Rivero said the keys may come either whole or split into parts, but declined to discuss further the particulars around who has the keys and when they might arrive.

No way! This is a shock! BSVers are jumping off the bridges, markets are going crazy and no one knows how to react to this...oh wait, nope, no one with one brain cell and even jbreher expected Faketoshi to have the keys!

jbreher logic:
1-Satoshi was a genius who created perfect code, thus we must follow truest implementation of satoshi code!
2-It doesn't matter whether Satoshi is an idiot who can't code, a serial liar and a perjurer who looses every trail he starts
3-
1007  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2020, 07:27:36 AM

...blahblahblah...

I admit it could certainly be a rocky path. But I expect it to far surpass BCH, and in turn BTC.


When? And at which point you're willing to admit that it's a dumpster fire?

Edit: let me try to answer in Faketoshi's voice: soon and never
1008  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 16, 2020, 05:05:51 PM
This is big:

A new Bitcoin boom?Grayscale reports record crypto investments for 2019

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Digital currency manager Grayscale took in $607 million of investments in 2019, an amount that outstripped its collective inflows of the previous five years.

From their report:
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Most significant asset raising year in Grayscale’s history: Investment for FY19, totaled $607.7 million, surpassed combined investment into all Grayscale’s products from 2013 through 2018.
Largest quarterly investment to Grayscale® Bitcoin Trust ever: With $193.8 in 4Q19, investment into Grayscale Bitcoin Trust exceeded the $171.7 million in investment raised in 3Q19.

The current situation is this one:



Please note the relative size of Bitcoin Investments comparet to shitcoins.

So back of the envelope calculations:

USD 607 millions@BTCUSD8,000 means roughly 75,000 bitcoins were bought this year.
After the halving each year 6.25*24*365 Bitcoins will be mined.
This means Greyscale alone more than 20% of Bitcoins.

How cannot be bullish?
This is Stock to Flow in full power!



Maths are hard
6.25*6*24*365

but yeah the point stands. Can't wait till ETF
1009  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2020, 11:42:41 PM
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The document produced by Craig is simply a list of 16,404 addresses. Craig, however, did not provide any information on the bounded courier, the company he/she worked for, when he/she came, or the message delivered.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.377.0.pdf

 Cheesy now he's just trolling the court! Lets see them addresses!

Shortly after Judge Reinhart issued this Order, on September 11, 2019, the parties reached
an agreement in principle to settle the case. Discovery was abated for nearly two months as the
parties worked together to document their agreement. Then, on October 30, and without warning,
Plaintiffs were informed Craig could no longer finance the settlement
, and that he was terminating
the settlement efforts.



...no shit Grin


yep tl;dr
Faketoshi-let's settle i got this dude with big pockets
Kleiman-OK
Ayre-Ohh i wanted to settle but i investigated and found out that CSW is already my little bitch and i already own everything, oops silly me. good luck collecting on 50% of $0, i'm out
Kleiman-WTF you think we're idiots!?! Then lets drag you and nChain into the case, and see what Judge has to say about all this
Ayre-pooping his pants, and thinking how much more it'll cost him to settle

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I was NOT negotiating a settlement as I am not a party to the case...I was investigating the potential to buy the assets of the estate.
-Calvin Ayre @ https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1191324328278863872

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In August, a Florida magistrate issued a non-binding statement that Kleiman’s estate was entitled to 50% of the Bitcoin (BTC) mined by the Wright & Kleiman “partnership” up to December 31, 2013, as well as 50% of any intellectual property (IP) co-developed by Wright & Kleiman prior to Kleiman’s death in April 2013. There is no actual evidence of a partnership that could be found by lawyers researching on behalf of Ayre.

Following the statement, Ayre commenced good-faith negotiations to acquire the Kleiman estate based on public disclosures that the estate held valuable IP under U.S. law. Ayre’s attorneys have since determined that all of the IP claimed by the estate was created following Dave’s death and thus lies outside the scope of the non-binding statement.

Of the IP in question, Ayre’s attorneys concluded that the only IP on which Kleiman collaborated with Wright was the original Bitcoin code, which was released to the world as open source software in 2009.

-Calvin Ayre's blog @ https://coingeek.com/calvin-ayre-passes-on-buying-dave-kleiman-estate-because-it-holds-no-assets/

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...revealed the extent to which nChain’s Chairman
Stefan Matthews and nChain investor Calvin Ayre participated in facilitating Craig’s unlawful
taking of, and capitalizing on, W&K’s (and Dave Kleiman’s) intellectual property. 4 They have
also revealed that Nchain has acquired, with full knowledge of Plaintiffs potential claims, much of
the IP at issue in this case. Furthermore, new documents produced in mid-December 2019 show
that Craig signed a power of attorney agreement in August 2016 that gave nChain the power to
“take any steps or do any thing” that nChain “in its absolute discretion considers desirable in
connection with” the IP nChain purchased from Craig, including controlling any litigation over
the intellectual property at issue in this case.

Everyone knows that CSW is broke and is on Ayre's life support, CSW has no private keys so best Kleiman's lawyers can hope for is to annoy Ayre and nChain enough to at least get some settlement.


Oh this is just too good, so "W&K Info Defense Research LLC" that Faketoshi started with Dave, apparently is not even Faketoshi's but his ex's. This is just too much

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In fact, plaintiffs’ trial strategy was illustrated last
Sunday during the deposition of Lynn Wright, defendant’s ex-wife, who testified that she is the
“W” in plaintiff W&K and that she is a shareholder of the company.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.379.0.pdf

Faketoshi is getting rid of assets faster than Roger is loosing his mind.
1010  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2020, 09:00:59 PM
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The document produced by Craig is simply a list of 16,404 addresses. Craig, however, did not provide any information on the bounded courier, the company he/she worked for, when he/she came, or the message delivered.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.377.0.pdf

 Cheesy now he's just trolling the court! Lets see them addresses!

Shortly after Judge Reinhart issued this Order, on September 11, 2019, the parties reached
an agreement in principle to settle the case. Discovery was abated for nearly two months as the
parties worked together to document their agreement. Then, on October 30, and without warning,
Plaintiffs were informed Craig could no longer finance the settlement
, and that he was terminating
the settlement efforts.



...no shit Grin


yep tl;dr
Faketoshi-let's settle i got this dude with big pockets
Kleiman-OK
Ayre-Ohh i wanted to settle but i investigated and found out that CSW is already my little bitch and i already own everything, oops silly me. good luck collecting on 50% of $0, i'm out
Kleiman-WTF you think we're idiots!?! Then lets drag you and nChain into the case, and see what Judge has to say about all this
Ayre-pooping his pants, and thinking how much more it'll cost him to settle

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I was NOT negotiating a settlement as I am not a party to the case...I was investigating the potential to buy the assets of the estate.
-Calvin Ayre @ https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1191324328278863872

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In August, a Florida magistrate issued a non-binding statement that Kleiman’s estate was entitled to 50% of the Bitcoin (BTC) mined by the Wright & Kleiman “partnership” up to December 31, 2013, as well as 50% of any intellectual property (IP) co-developed by Wright & Kleiman prior to Kleiman’s death in April 2013. There is no actual evidence of a partnership that could be found by lawyers researching on behalf of Ayre.

Following the statement, Ayre commenced good-faith negotiations to acquire the Kleiman estate based on public disclosures that the estate held valuable IP under U.S. law. Ayre’s attorneys have since determined that all of the IP claimed by the estate was created following Dave’s death and thus lies outside the scope of the non-binding statement.

Of the IP in question, Ayre’s attorneys concluded that the only IP on which Kleiman collaborated with Wright was the original Bitcoin code, which was released to the world as open source software in 2009.

-Calvin Ayre's blog @ https://coingeek.com/calvin-ayre-passes-on-buying-dave-kleiman-estate-because-it-holds-no-assets/

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...revealed the extent to which nChain’s Chairman
Stefan Matthews and nChain investor Calvin Ayre participated in facilitating Craig’s unlawful
taking of, and capitalizing on, W&K’s (and Dave Kleiman’s) intellectual property. 4 They have
also revealed that Nchain has acquired, with full knowledge of Plaintiffs potential claims, much of
the IP at issue in this case. Furthermore, new documents produced in mid-December 2019 show
that Craig signed a power of attorney agreement in August 2016 that gave nChain the power to
“take any steps or do any thing” that nChain “in its absolute discretion considers desirable in
connection with” the IP nChain purchased from Craig, including controlling any litigation over
the intellectual property at issue in this case.

Everyone knows that CSW is broke and is on Ayre's life support, CSW has no private keys so best Kleiman's lawyers can hope for is to annoy Ayre and nChain enough to at least get some settlement.
1011  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2020, 07:09:08 AM
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The document produced by Craig is simply a list of 16,404 addresses. Craig, however, did not provide any information on the bounded courier, the company he/she worked for, when he/she came, or the message delivered.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.377.0.pdf

 Cheesy now he's just trolling the court! Lets see them addresses!
1012  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2020, 04:58:50 AM
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I doubt that the 1/2 the court gave these 'supposed' the Klieman family estate will act in a irresponsible manner.

Courts don't have the technical know-how to determine crypto fraud, private keys, stuff like that. Heck, the Japanese court "resolved" the mtgox case by giving a low USD-equivalent on bitcoins that had multiplied their USD-value several times. In the meantime they left the rest of the BTC to the custody of third parties that were using these BTCs to manipulate BTC price... I think it was Kraken who said that the trustee was destroying the order book instead of opting for auctions (as suggested by Kraken).

In any case, the courts asked for something from CW and he has to deliver "something". I have no doubt he will deliver "something" because he needs to do it or else face possible sanctions, from what I read. Heck, he might have made enough money in the recent rumor-based SV pump that he can actually settle the case outside of the courtroom without losing face from a possible conviction Tongue

He already did, he was ordered to deliver his BTC holdings, and he just did exactly that provided Kleiman with list of addresses. Can't wait till they publish it and someone signs "CSW is not Satoshi" with one of them, we should start a bounty for the first one.
1013  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2020, 12:15:58 AM
I wonder how stupid you have to be to be buying SV right now....

Jihan and Roger might be running dry, nothing on the horizon except for BTC halfening which would take away from the bottom line at bitmain. Ayre/Faketoshi smell blood and circling around bcash like sharks. If they manage to crush bcash they might keep this up till BSV halfening.
All this while BTC is just sitting at the top watching two idiots fight each other. It's goingto be a good year for popcorn companies  
Faketoshi really thinks he can take down Bitcoin when he can't even take down Bitcoin Cash? He might have them today, but he will have to keep this up in order to sustain it.

If he backs out now he's guaranteed to get destroyed (Ayre probably made him sign his life away before saving his ass from the Aussie tax man), his only option is to continue this charade for as long as possible. If BTC doesn't moon to offset Bitmain's mining losses from halfening, BSV might be able to take down Bcash. POW coins are not cheap to keep at the top, halvening should relieve some pressure thus why Ayre is making a move now. Unless Faketoshi can prove he has the private keys, bitcoin has nothing to worry about (even then bitcoin will survive), sit back, relax and watch the idiots fight.

"Feeeeed me Roger!"  -Bcash "Feeeeed me Calvin!"  -BSv
1014  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2020, 11:55:47 PM

...there was also a note attached saying "Hi this is Dave and i'd like to say that CSW is real Satoshi and all of these BTC belong to him and i don't have a claim to any of it so my brother shouldn't even attempt to sue. Roll Eyes

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.376.0_1.pdf

Sounds like he took his time to come up with a list of possible Satoshi's public addresses. Hopefully they'll publish it, so internetz could scrutinize them. Don't hold your breath waiting for any proof that he actually has any private keys. He'll drag this out till the end of trial, even then when he looses and ordered to pay, he has about a year to transfer all of his IP under nChain and his assets under his wife, declare bankruptcy and good luck to Kleiman trying to collect on the judgement. He's job is to keep the myth alive as long as possible, without any proof that he has access to private keys

The note thing is an invention of you, right?  I would inmediately recognise that comment as irony/sarcasm but with that clown you never know whats the next bizarre thing he will come up with Tongue

I am wondering something... those high stakes trials are expensive... like a lot... what will happen to kleiman legal costs when CSW claims bankruptcy?

CSW is already on a hook for $658,581 in attorney fees to Kleiman. That might have to be settled before the end of the trial so at least they gonna get that much. Ayre is getting much more than that just in PR. Attorneys are not idiots and have a good idea how much they would actually be able to collect on. So they'll have a choice to do the right thing take this to the end and bankrupt CSW and get nothing, or get something from Ayre in form of a settlement. With settlement everyone wins, CSW can brag that judge ruled that he's Satoshi, nChain can continue to leverage that to pump BSV, Kleiman and his lawyers get few $millions, and Ayre gets a #4 cypto. Beauty is with all that, BTC continues to go up, badger gives 0 shits!
1015  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2020, 11:42:15 PM
I wonder how stupid you have to be to be buying SV right now....

Jihan and Roger might be running dry, nothing on the horizon except for BTC halfening which would take away from the bottom line at bitmain. Ayre/Faketoshi smell blood and circling around bcash like sharks. If they manage to crush bcash they might keep this up till BSV halfening.
All this while BTC is just sitting at the top watching two idiots fight each other. It's goingto be a good year for popcorn companies  
1016  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2020, 11:09:37 PM
I don't think the irony is being fully appretiated here. On the day that someone who threatened to tank bitcoin supposedly got access to Satoshi's keys to BTC1MM, BTC goes up by 10%  Grin shows how much BTC cares about Faketoshi's shenanigans. The shitty part that it's in Kleimans interest to pretend that it's real, so they won't challenge it, might be negotiating on a nice check from Ayre to settle. Faketoshi wins in either case
1017  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2020, 10:35:32 PM
The Bitcoin SV pump is based on CSW's saying that the bonded courier actually showed up with the tulip trust keys. In other words, he says he's now in possession of 1 million or so BTC (half of which is supposed to go to the Kleimans).

https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-craig-wrights-courier/

If only there were a way for him to prove that they keys arrived and that he truly is (along with Kleiman) Satoshi.

If only...


You mean prove, cryptographically that he is Satoshi Nakamoto by signing a message?

That’s asking for too much Wink

To be fair...he may not know how to do that.

Can someone explain that to him so he can prove he's Satoshi?

So when he subsequently fails to move any coins or sign any messages, how are the (what are we calling SV believers these days? Morons? Is it morons?) morons going to explain it?


how do you call a con that succeeds in making the con-artist gobs of money....

"The Sting"

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Dr. Wright notifies the Court that a third party has provided
the necessary information and key slice to unlock the encrypted file, and Dr. Wright has
produced a list of his bitcoin holdings, as ordered by the Magistrate Judge, to plaintiffs today.

...there was also a note attached saying "Hi this is Dave and i'd like to say that CSW is real Satoshi and all of these BTC belong to him and i don't have a claim to any of it so my brother shouldn't even attempt to sue. Roll Eyes

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.376.0_1.pdf

Sounds like he took his time to come up with a list of possible Satoshi's public addresses. Hopefully they'll publish it, so internetz could scrutinize them. Don't hold your breath waiting for any proof that he actually has any private keys. He'll drag this out till the end of trial, even then when he looses and ordered to pay, he has about a year to transfer all of his IP under nChain and his assets under his wife, declare bankruptcy and good luck to Kleiman trying to collect on the judgement. He's job is to keep the myth alive as long as possible, without any proof that he has access to private keys
1018  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2020, 05:55:39 AM
now

now it is our time
Bitcoin is inevitable.

That's my ™ That would be 100.000 satoshis thank you  Angry
1019  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2019, 08:24:39 PM
We used to have a bot account that posted these literally every hour, on the hour.

‘ChartBuddy’

I can’t remember exactly why it stopped but I think it was managed by Adam or RichyT. Somebody like V8 will know what happened.

I miss it though.

CharBuddy's creator got tired of the stupid abuse. Left for more hospitable climes. Over on The Forum That Shall Not Be Named.

He was a big blocker, when it didn't go his way he left and took chartbuddy with him
1020  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2019, 06:12:47 AM
Only 14 (+31) days until craig wright faketoshi will allegedly drive Bitcoin to $0 with his tulip trust stash. have to come up with the next lie to keep himself relevant.  Maybe Mr. Micg can rebuild his Bitcoin empire at really bargain prices.

Oh can't wait what intrigue he'll come up next, my money is on courtier will deliver the keys but some bits are ineligible but no worries his super brain will crack it, he just needs you keep believing until jan 2021
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