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[bitserve]

Conga rats Bit serve

THanks!

What kind of game are you guys playing with my nick?  

It’s better than Bi-sterve

Sorry. I forgot the #nohomo earlier.  

I am not sure if I should ask (again) what is this all about my nick.... Maybe not. At least no one has said Bitsewer... yet.

[Arriemoller]

NO HOMO

[bitserve]

Where is the world it is pleasantly warm, but not hot at least 8-9 mo/year?
A sea and or a lake is required, preferably english speaking (at least in a large part) populace.
I cannot think of anywhere apart from few small places in The Caribbean, with a threat of hurricanes, etc.
I've been through several hurricanes already, it's a thing to avoid if possible.
Without considering language, I was also thinking about Greece (including Corfu), some Mediterranean islands (Crete, etc.), maybe Canary islands.
Maybe I should learn Spanish or Portuguese, finally.

Suggestions?

Canary islands is probably what better fit that description. Not too expensive. Warm weather all year round (for foreigners... the summer is too dull for me) and plenty of english speaking zones/communities.

Malaga coast also have a lot of english speaking zones/resorts but the weather during summer maybe is a bit on the hot side for foreigners. Also more expensive but still very affordable in comparison to other countries. *Many* UK/German/etc retirees there specially in Marbella.

Palma de Mallorca another option. With a lot of english speaking people there. But the *WET* weather (humidity) is absolutely ridiculous.

Portugal, there are also some reasonable options, like Portimão, etc...

[infofront]

Last poll:

How long you going to let the new poll run, infofront?  Until the next ATH is reached?  This one could take a while, unless you are amongst the super-optimistic here - which still might be late 2020, at best, no?  and probably mid-to-late 2021, more realistically.

   In other words, we have to get passed our ATH first.. and then figure out how many corrections there might be along the way to a new ATH  - assuming we get a new ATH - unlike the naysayer first answer.

I'll probably just let it run a couple weeks. I'm in the late 2021 bubble top camp. It seems too obvious, but that's my best guess.

Anyway, I decided on this poll after there was some discussion about the next ATH here a few days ago. Hopefully, the poll results will still be up here for posterity when the new ATH hits.

[HairyMaclairy]

Where is the world it is pleasantly warm, but not hot at least 8-9 mo/year?
A sea and or a lake is required, preferably english speaking (at least in a large part) populace.
I cannot think of anywhere apart from few small places in The Caribbean, with a threat of hurricanes, etc.
I've been through several hurricanes already, it's a thing to avoid if possible.
Without considering language, I was also thinking about Greece (including Corfu), some Mediterranean islands (Crete, etc.), maybe Canary islands.
Maybe I should learn Spanish or Portuguese, finally.

Suggestions?

Sydney, Australia

[bitserve]

Where is the world it is pleasantly warm, but not hot at least 8-9 mo/year?
A sea and or a lake is required, preferably english speaking (at least in a large part) populace.
I cannot think of anywhere apart from few small places in The Caribbean, with a threat of hurricanes, etc.
I've been through several hurricanes already, it's a thing to avoid if possible.
Without considering language, I was also thinking about Greece (including Corfu), some Mediterranean islands (Crete, etc.), maybe Canary islands.
Maybe I should learn Spanish or Portuguese, finally.

Suggestions?

Sydney, Australia

Isn't Sydney (and most of Australia) like... *extremely* expensive?

[JayJuanGee]

[edited out]

I'll probably just let it run a couple weeks. I'm in the late 2021 bubble top camp. It seems too obvious, but that's my best guess.

I am leaning towards that mid-to-late 2021 too, but if you had not noticed, in recent times (maybe the past few months.... time flies so fast sometimes around these parts, even with walls of text being processed), I have been pumping out various theories about the extremes to which status-quo institutions and even teaming up with bears and governments could desperately attempt to go to manipulate the models (referring to stock-to-flow, four-year fractal and/or Metcalfe network adoption)  beyond recognition or even to cause the models to become untrue (which some damned extreme manipulation attempts that might be beyond the will power or abilities of such entities to team up).

Seems like NO matter what is done or attempted, and even if there are ongoing manipulation attempts, there is a kind of trajectory and underlying dynamic that is captured within the models and to likely cause a considerable amount of gravitational affect to make them largely true - even if they end up being either front run or a bit delayed, we still seem to have considerable gravitational forces that are pulling towards a kind of mid-to-late 2021 arena... we will see; we will see.

Anyway, I decided on this poll after there was some discussion about the next ATH here a few days ago. Hopefully, the poll results will still be up here for posterity when the new ATH hits.

I think that it was a pretty decent idea/practice for you to begin to post the old poll results at the time that you start the new poll, and surely that will cause some ability to go back and look at some of the trending poll ideas in a kind of contemporary snapshot.. for posterity, so long as the internet does not break (referring to a kind of Armageddon... hahahahaha)...

[jbreher]

Where is the world it is pleasantly warm, but not hot at least 8-9 mo/year?
A sea and or a lake is required, preferably english speaking (at least in a large part) populace.
I cannot think of anywhere apart from few small places in The Caribbean, with a threat of hurricanes, etc.
I've been through several hurricanes already, it's a thing to avoid if possible.
Without considering language, I was also thinking about Greece (including Corfu), some Mediterranean islands (Crete, etc.), maybe Canary islands.
Maybe I should learn Spanish or Portuguese, finally.

Suggestions?

San Diego?

<g,d&r>

[cAPSLOCK]

the new BSv directive is to pivot and try to separate BSv from CSW, shills are out in force trying to push this.

Where do you get this tripe?

Twiter mostly.  They are trying to pivot to Daniel.  Like I said half a year ago.  This is who ends up the face of it.  Dear autistic Danial.

Prediction:  After CSW goes down in flames Daniel Krawitz will step up as the high priest of BSV.

June 28th... I believe you scoffed.  You may scoff again.  But watch.

[Icygreen]

DA FUCK!  

 Congratulations Bitserve!

Thanks!

Also thanks to everyone else that congratulated me, I won't keep going one by one saying thanks... this shit is getting redundant already! You all know I am thankful for your help and/or congratulations and I really appreciate it!  

That being said let's get back to business as usual...

By the way, if you think Spain is cold, you should avoid Canada at all costs.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1N5JRcSXOM

Jesus. I would want to die if I lived there. Yeah, I know about Canada (never been there... probably because).

Some parts of USA are also fucking cold. NY can be frigging cold, but sometimes is somewhat ok. San Francisco... da fuck! I was there one time in *JUNE*. And there were fucking SEA LIONS on the pier!!!!! NO WONDER WHY!

Not that UK is that much different. Spent one month there when I was young and it was all rain and bad climate... in fucking July or August!

And yeah, even in my country there are many cities where it is too cold for my taste, especially in winter.

The only place, besides my city, where I was able to perfectly climate as if I was at home is Las Vegas during summer. That's maybe one of the reasons I have been there 5 times already, spending my whole summer holidays. I *LOVE* Las Vegas.

Yeah, I am bit picky about needing a nice warm -or even *FUCKING HOT* for most everyone else- *DRY* weather. That's what I am used to and what I really love.

As a matter of fact, there has never been a snow fall in my city in all my lifetime. My father says it happened ONCE during his youth... for a few hours. And it was incredible.

But I won't be more specific as I am already almost blowing out my OPSEC as it is already somewhat easy to know very approximately where I do live... As if anyone would care lol

I would like to be more cold-climate-resistant but unfortunately I am not. Thats why my potential future relocation options are really extremely limited... or none.

Not to keep banging on with Southern Vietnam but... Warm and dry are the winter conditions for 7-8 months (Nov-May) of the year along the south coast. Sand, cactus, blue skies, board shorts and sandles etc are the norm.  Any further north of the coast gets noticeably cooler.  Prices are still cheap AF. A private 3 bedroom/3 bathroom place on (very near) the ocean rents for $350 p/m. I can eat out every day and spend less than I would in Canada cooking and cleaning by myself.
The further south you go from here, the more humid it'll be.
Next stop south is the Phillipines which might be a good choice of a middle ground. They do experience crazy typhoons October-December that wreck havoc, worth considering. It'll be my next choice if and when I leave VN. Further south was more difficult,  I had moved my winter home from Bali about 10 years ago because it was just too humid, hot, wet and moldy most of the time. Also the sun is just too hard on the skin and prices and pollution are in a race. Infections, bugs, and tourists at every turn.

BTW congrats on the rank

[DaRude]

you have no fear that CSWs insane mind will finish its decent into lunacy and utterly destroying whatever you think bsv is?

No. Users are not forced to accept new versions of SW. Anyone is free to continue using the previously existing version. This nullifies any threat.

Of course, it is likely that nChain is a significant miner, which does lead to some exposure in this regard. But Craig does not hold exclusive chains of power in that organization, and others there are not suicidal. So, somewhat mitigated.

does csw know about this?

he would most likely sue them and take his own devs to court if they ignore his decisions. or split from bsv if they dont listen. just extrapolating this on observed past behavior.

anyway as you say they dont have to follow so it will be intersting as to how long bsv puts up with him.

Seems like the writing is on the wall, CSW becoming a toxic liability and the new BSv directive is to pivot and try to separate BSv from CSW, shills are out in force trying to push this. We should all support CSW in his efforts to sue Ayre for libel. BOSSv (Bitcoin Original Satoshi Super Vision) sounds better too.

Where do you get this tripe?

Anyone trying to make the case that Craig was not part of the team that created Bitcoin is either a scammer or really really stupid...that is the only two categories given the evidence out there.  ABC conspirators are market manipulators and scammers:

3 Dec 2018 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1069781857057812481

everyone smart in the industry already knows Craig was the primary member of the Satoshi team.Everyone saying this is not true is stupid or lying or both.  I know people who knew Craig when he invented Bitcoin BSV in 2009:

9 Feb 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1094198473484877825

yup...Dr Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto...and #BSV is the only real #Bitcoin.  All others are attacking Craig to sell their dysfunctional snake oil crypto products.  Craig has proven this to me directly in a number of ways.

29 Mar 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1111708680305721344

How do you know someone is a scammer...they are shouting at the top of their lungs that Craig is not Satoshi and they are supporting technology that does not work today.  Simple.

8 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1115368692366434304

I am still wrapping my head around the panic that is setting in among all the haters now that Craig has decided to prove his legitimate legacy.  They are all free to try to prove their points also, but trolling is not proof, nor is it legal.  :-)

11 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1116585402012323840

if you publish something that is not true and you are conflicted and have commercial gain to intentionally liable someone...this is illegal pretty much globally.   No amount of misguided "crowd support" changes this fact.  :-)

11 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1116296119758225409

This industry needs to grow up and Craig proving he is Satoshi is the only way past this Troll attack that is so bad for the industries reputation.  He now has a duty to set the record straight for us all.  The Trolls all know he is Satoshi hence the fear.

15 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1117706922415853569

this is something like Tesla Edison rivalry...except Craig is both of them and the other side refuse to even discuss technology and only want to censor.   #CraigisSatoshi and the world demands this be proven in court like he wants and the are trying to avoid.  :-)

16 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1118086289553801217

everyone who tries to stop Craig from proving the truth, by shouting Fraud, is engaged in a type of Fraud against humanity.   they are also clearly conflicted with association with technologies that do not work as good as real Bitcoin SV does.   You can easily see who is involved

17 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1118474455989149698

Imagine how the Catholic Church would react to Jesus showing up today.  that is how the high priests of the crypto world are reacting to Craig wanting to now prove in court that  he is Satoshi.   They are horrified about what he thinks of their stupid plans. :-)
#CraigisSatoshi

17 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1118430193562079234

lost in all the troll talking is the duty Craig has to prove he is satoshi. Duty to his peers, shareholders and customers of nChain, his family and friends and the world at large...all who are suffering damages from this horrible cyberbullying of Craig.
#CraigisSatoshi

18 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1118826411278635008

someone did a decent job pulling together publicly available information that all supports Craig being Satoshi. More will be presented in court to establish his legacy to the judge. Don't believe scammers believe your own eyes...#CraigisSatoshi.

2 May 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1124073715501797377

I am hoping to have significant proof of #CraigisSatoshi out no later than Tue May 21.  Why wait for Craig's libellous  scammers in court to have all the fun right? :-)

15 May 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1128613856866197504

everyone who knows me in the gaming industry and pretty much everyone who knows me in general knows that I would not say I had seen proof that Craig was Satoshi if this were not in fact true.

15 May 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1128651333446270977

For anyone new.  #CraigisSatoshi and everyone in the industry knows this.  They pretend it's not him so others outside the industry are confused so they can keep their scams going.  Everyone attacking Craig is a scammer of some sort.

19 Jun 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1141380359290085378

Boom! Proof that #CraigisSatoshi has been accepted by US government copyright department.

21 May 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1130809891550126080

Like I said before...everyone who knows me knows that I would not be saying something publicly unless it was true. #CraigisSatoshi and #BSV is the only real #Bitcoin.  Now we prove it to the world.

21 May 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1130861508357959682

#CraigisSatosh as I have told you...I know the entire story and since this is true and therefor permanent....I think the world just has to accept and adjust like we all have.  OH ya...BSV is the only real bitcoin also...massive scaling coming.

22 May 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1131217318577659904

My friend Stefan Mathews was working with Craig on a gaming project in 2008 when Craig was inventing Bitcoin and was given a copy of the white paper that did not include the Satoshi name on a USB and was a few generations before the one Craig published as Satoshi.

22 May 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1131218337332125696

Doing this if you are not Satoshi only makes you a fraud and in the US you go to jail...Craig is Satoshi so he is the only one that has standing and he is happy to prove it so this is over.

22 May 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1131173863608541185

This is hilarious. People are signing their names to a clearly libellous statement in the form of a petition. Is there such a thing as a reverse class action?

22 May 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1131200932916670471

by the way...#CraigisSatoshi and the only scammers are the guys attacking him so he will not expose their scams.  Since they all are promoting shite coins that do not scale, everyone smart is going through the same evolution Jason explains in his piece here.

24 May 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1131899445556187136

wonder what happens to  #Bitcoin (#BSV), Segwit Coin BTC and alphabet Soup coin (ABC/BCH/BAB) when #CraigisSatoshi gets his million coins once Tulip trust vests Jan 2020 and he dumps Segwit and Alphabet and buys Bitcoin?  Things that make you go hummmm? :-)

26 May 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1132660809652428800

I have had my lawyers dig through Craig's case.  It is air tight so this is nothing more than a great opportunity to get a UK judge to pronounce Craig Satoshi:

1 Jun 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1134894557315915776

More strong evidence to add to the overwhelming evidence already public that #CraigisSatoshi.   Anyone contesting this is involved in a scam of some sort that Craig would be against.

29 Jun 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1145009549407150080

I need to retweet this and add that my lawyers have reviewed all the material that is out there and can confirm it is beyond any doubt that #CraigisSatoshi.  There is a book coming out soon by a respected investigative reporter that comes to the same obvious conclusion.

29 Jun 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1145128312458682368

So just to try once again to help everyone.  I have had my lawyers review Craigs history and it is beyond any doubt that he is Satoshi.  I know two people personally that knew him when he invented Bitcoin and recall him talking to them about it.  There is NO controversy here.

8 Jul 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1148236768304685056

Craig has no interest in hurting segwit BTC market because of his massive position, my huge Segwit mining business and the  fact that the business models do not compete AT ALL anymore.   Buy and Hodl vs Earn and Spend.   However he still has to reclaim his legacy as Satoshi.

28 Aug 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1166701027632058368

yes...I have seen all the evidence that will be released in the court cases in UK.  Its coming quickly so you can digest there.  Kleiman case will likely settle so I don't expect much to come out there.

30 Aug 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1167390008577335296

Only two groups still insist Craig is not real . Those who know the truth and are  scamming and know Craig is going to call them out so demonise him to deflect and moronic Trolls, not smart enough to know the truth.

31 Aug 2018 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1035762939351982080

not following it as  am a bit busy, but they are putting the mountain of evidence together as I have seen some of the boxes of historical documents including old versions of the white paper in Craigs handwriting and printed and with his notes and coffee on them and rusty staples.

3 Oct 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1179752662713028609

everyone smart knows #CraigisSatoshi.  Only Satoshi could write the below and point out what SPV really means.  Another tech now only availble on origininal #Bitcoin #BSV and covered by nChain patents:

9 Oct 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1182067580607094786

The two guys I know who knew Craig when he invented bitcoin don’t know this person 🎃

6 Nov 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1192045813977042955

Agreed...however I know for a fact that #CraigisSatoshi and this is easily obviouse to anyone smart using publicly available info.

21 Nov 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1197518826142871552

a 6 year old can understand that #BSV is the original #Bitcoin protocol so is Bitcoin and no others are.  Yet for some reason no leader  on the other chains can.  I would suspect lying and a connection to why they also deny #CraigisSatoshi

28 Nov 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1199997467938492416

i will say this one more time.  I or my lawyers have confirmed #CraigisSatoshi beyond any doubt and Craig's lawyers say there is zero doubt in the evidence he is submitting to court next year.  Also to be clear, he has ALL the education he says he has.  He is a polymath.

30 Nov 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1200725734798635008   wtf he's not even sure if it was himself or his lawyer who confirmed

its a great shot...#CraigisSatoshi is in a good spot these days...everyone smart accepts him as the only possible Satoshi and #BSV as original #Bitcoin.  He is allowed to goof off now a bit.  :-)

8 Dec 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1203728903187189760

yes, Craig is Satoshi.  I believe there is enough in the public domain for anyone smart to be able to see this but even dim witted folks will understand before 2020 is over so just wait my friend.

28 Dec 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1211003993914261509

I have seen most of the evidence and I know personally two guys working with Craig in 2008 in gaming who remember him talking about his creating Bitcoin.   there is all the evidence you need public now.  All deniers are scammers.

28 Dec 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1210909366657966080

thanks, I have proven beyond a doubt to myself and my team that #CraigisSatoshi and that #BSV is original #Bitcoin protocol and has special powers due to its economic model.  Anyone smart should be coming to the same conclusion now.

29 Dec 2019 https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1211272805259644928



*Notice Calvin's retweet https://twitter.com/MZietzke/status/1218611090373926919






tl;dr
13 out of 14 kindergartners can spot a pivot (one ate his crayon), but can jbreher?? Btw jbreher did you ever ended up taking sides on Faketoshi? Or still sitting on the sidelines to see how it turns out before jumping in?

So Ayre has proof that Fakeoshi is Satosh but is not showing it to the BSv holders because reasons. Fakeoshi will dump million BTC in january (without having private keys) but Fakeoshi has no interest in hurting segwit BTC. Fuck and apparently now i'm involved in fraud against Humanity. Oh well, guess it's time for a lobotomy so my logic can sleep at night. Ohh he still has these diamonds hanging, so yeah definitely credible

Anyone actively involved in trying to stop Craig from proving his legitimate legacy to the world is involved in this fraud against Humanity.  We need the Truth now!
The father of Bitcoin is Dr Craig Wright.

17 Apr 2019 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1118478622510211073

I now operate entirely in BCH for everything globally.  I only use suppliers who accept BCH and I keep all my treasury only in Bitcoin BCH...no fiat or alt coins like BTC etc.  The infrastructure is all in place.

23 Apr 2018 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/988548065576521729

Signature from Key 9?....Satoshi Lives...likely upset at Bitmain and http://Bitcoin.com  for attacking Bitcoin.

16 Nov 2018 https://twitter.com/calvinayre/status/1063513039989813248

[Paashaas]

When Ve ge TA ?

Right now the price is a bit overexcited and needs a cup of tea and a lie down.  Zat is all. 

Do you believe in $400k BTC somewhere in 2021?

[bitebits]

[...]
I can't really remember the last time I required anyone else's time. I guess I could rent someone with really long hair to flop it over me and shuffle behind and that'll be cheaper than a wig so make the move worthwhile.

It is 6AM and I have tears in my eyes laughing. Good start of the day, thank you Gentleman.

Can relate though, it may look crazy to some but even when for free I rather do things myself. Nothing wrong with a bit of manual labor and learning how to do or fix something. I enjoy it actually.

[HairyMaclairy]

Do you believe in $400k BTC somewhere in 2021?

No.   But $180k is not out of the question. 

[LoyceV]

Is your scrapper fast enough to get the original post before any edit/addition is done to it?

Try it Loading the page after posting takes a few seconds, editing takes a few seconds, so try

What is the delay you are using for your scrapper?

I prefer not to post the exact delay, but I've also noticed it sometimes takes a tad longer (maybe because of lag, and because of the time needed to process the data).

Or maybe there is a way to retrieve the original/unedited post from bitcointalk?

As far as I know, edits within 10 minutes aren't saved by the forum.

[AlexGR]

Without considering language, I was also thinking about Greece (including Corfu), some Mediterranean islands (Crete, etc.), maybe Canary islands.
Maybe I should learn Spanish or Portuguese, finally.

Suggestions?

Greece has very good climate. Just note that in Crete it's pretty hot in the summer and Corfu is quite rainy in non-summer months.

Central and northern Greece is better for dealing with heat but of course it'll be a bit colder in the winter.

Athens is becoming a shithole though, due to extreme migrant inflow from islamic countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan... foreigners are easy prey to criminal islamic gangs.

[TopTort777]

Isn't Sydney (and most of Australia) like... *extremely* expensive?

Not only expensive, but also dangerous  

[VB1001]

https://twitter.com/crypto_birb/status/1219412215096397825

[fillippone]

Good morning WO's, Indeed it is over $9000 looking at 9155 and climbing. This is fine.
Tet is coming soon and the karaoke parties are starting. I'm expecting prices to follow the celebrations of the next 10 days.
Friends and atmosphere all in place.  Here's a shot of our back yard currently. Any sleuths out there find this? Shouldn't be terribly difficult.

My guess is Vietnam too.
Tossing at Phantom Rang (no clue why... just hinting because of kites in the background and googled kite destinations in Vietnam and liked the name).

[NeuroticFish]

My guess is Vietnam too.
Tossing at Phantom Rang (no clue why... just hinting because of kites in the background and googled kite destinations in Vietnam and liked the name).

You are a bit late, the competition was already won 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg53659752#msg53659752