N.b. that this is theocrasy (not a typo!), not an historical statement at all; I will nonetheless address it historically:


Jesus and Moses are fictional characters.  Such can be said because they are alleged to have been historically extant human beings; and the Biblical alleged histories are bunk, just fiction (although they may be in part based very roughly on composites of bits and pieces of historical events).

In particular, I am amazed that anybody after the late 19c./early 20c. treats Jesus as having any more reality than the Wizard of Oz.  The Gospels are historically prepostrous.  Josephus was a liar generally, as can be readily demonstrated on many points (not only relevant to this issue).  Roman historical sources contemporaneous to, or soon after the alleged life of Jesus contain absolutely nothing about corroborates the story; biased “scholars” are left hanging onto some old chestnut about Tacitus and “Chrestus”, a misinterpretation that is completely absurd to anyone with even the slightest knowledge of the matter.  Etc...  Moreover, there is no reliable evidence that Christians (i.e. followers of Jesus) existed before the Second Century.

The others whom you listed are wholly mystical beings, not susceptible to scientific examination or other rational scholarship.  It is, strictly speaking, not irrational to believe in the existence of such beings somewhere that mere mortals (and their scientific instruments) cannot see.

The alleged historicity of Jesus was actually what I was thinking of specifically, when I wrote this:

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Not intact in the least.

Many if not most of the modern sects of the Hindus are almost unrecognizable compared even to the diverse syncretisms of the Hindu Golden Age, let alone the religion of Vedic times.

The oldest religion would probably be something from prehistorical times—therefore perforce unknown.  I need not reach the question of which religion has the oldest historically or archaeologically attested tradition.

Gautama expressed an essentially atheistic philosophy, eerily similar to Schopenhauer’s World as Will.  His Nirvana had the same objective as Schopenhauer’s Renunciation.  All of the Buddhist religious mysticism was piled on later, after the historical Gautama.  Such a thing could conceivably also happen over the course of future centuries to Schopenhauer and his quasi-mystical palingenesis of the Will, which can only be escaped by renouncing all desires and attaining the state of Nirvana, i.e. nonexistence.  (Sanskrit nirvāṇa = ‘extinguished’, literally ‘blown out’ in the sense of a candle.)

Obligatory at this juncture:

Parenthetically, I must remark that Gautama and Schopenhauer are correct:  Life inevitably has more suffering than joy.  People with an inner vitality must fight every day for a few precious joys amidst many sorrows.  Decadent people tire of this, and thus seek escape.  The desired escape can be rational and realistic as Gautama and Schopenhauer, or an irrational escapist fantasy, such as the Christian heaven or the transhumanist Singularity.

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I have no desire to discuss this now at length; and I have avoided this general line of discussion for want of time even to parse it.  Dashing this off in haste, I simply call out a few points well known to me, which happened to have caught my eye as I skim down to try to catch up with what must be the fastest-moving forum thread in the world.

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I’d be pleased for some pointers on the Lokāyaka. ;-)

(I appreciated that your post, and did not intend to ignore it.  If were to I answer the question that you thereby asked, I should do so properly; but I have (as yet?) lacked both the time and the inclination for such a discussion here—sorry.  It also invokes the problem that I keep my reading list private; indeed, I use Tor to help assure that nobody can track what I am reading.)

How is that even relevant?  Trump and Biden are approximately the same.  Neither will seek to undo the products of the Woodrow Wilson administration—and starting before undoing the Roosevelt New Five-Year Plan New Deal, that is what should be most important to the financial decisions of American investors, if they are capable even of remembering what they ate for breakfast.   #justsaying

Moreover, this charade has not even the slightest relevance to non-American investors.  One or the other of two American Commissars will be “elected”.  Either way, America will continue to be a terrorist rogue state, will continue to undermine the bigcorp-dollarized-globalized economy, will continue to export cultural degeneracy...  Yawn.

Some people’s obsession with this pointless circus act is surreal.  Not buy Bitcoin because of it?  Say what?  Why should Bitcoin give a hoot?

So much noise about what is basically just entertainment.  Football hooligans, scaled up.

explain in words:  wordy-man walls of text
pictures:  overrated
emojis:  nullius misunderstands your post due to its lack of words

#modernity

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Damn, CT.  That dog forgot his obligatory #nohomo tag before he picked out his clothes.

Indeed, everything should be encrypted all of the time.  With sufficiently large keys.  No 90s-era castrated “export” ciphers.


And what, even if you don’t care what unpredictable ways all of your intimate personal data may be used to fuck you, do you really want for her elliptic curves to be vulnerable to penetration and exploitation by the NSA and Big Tech corporations?  Bruteforce isn’t even the most efficient attack there.

NP-Complete means NP-Hard.

Yes, I have a thread called “Ciphersex” somewhere.

Yes, I would suppose that Bitcoin bulls may often have that problem.  Just don’t brag about it on the Internet.

And stop ramming that candlestick into her cervix.  It causes volatility.

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Try first reading the words without looking at the image.  (If you can’t get the joke just from the words, then, um...)  Then, observe the expression on the dog’s face.

Damn, Jay.  And I thought that I was harsh.


Protip:  If you actually need choreographic directions (rather than her statement just being a stock phrase to egg you on), then ur lil selfie is already in a humiliating position.  You are supposed to be leading the dance (and you had better know how to do that—which most men don’t, nowadays; I mean generally, not only in the bedroom).  Unless she takes relationship advice from the type of website or magazine that runs articles reading, “Top Ten Sexiest Things Ever:  1. When he asks me what I want!”  In that case, you have much deeper problems; if you’re already all in with her, you’re fucked.

I misunderstood your emoji, until I just checked the associated alt text.  D’oh!  I apologize for having come off as insulting to you about that issue.  I will edit my prior post to note this.

Homer Simpson is a cultural pet peeve of mine, for so very many reasons; but I would not have made that personal to you, if I hadn’t thought that you were ridiculing me for not being sufficiently “hip” and modern!

Interpretation of emojis, icons, and other pictograms:  Another modern problem. :-(


I object just as vehemently to the political correction of old stories as to the analogous butchery of language.

(A) Good:  Apply old fable, allegorical myth, or other literary scenario to new situation.

(B) Bad:  Bowdlerize old story because it’s XYZist.  A Newspeak of cultural semiotics, similar to the Newspeak of individual words.  Have you seen “modernized” versions of old stories?  Disgusting!

(C) Good:  Use old language in the modern day, with such minor adaptations and neologisms as rationally required to communicate about genuinely new things (e.g., “aeroplanes”, “motor-cars”, or the “Internetwork”).

(D) Bad:  Orwellian Newspeak.  Hardfork^* the language without consensus, so that cultural scammers can hijack control of cultural values by artificially twisting and limiting the words used to express concepts.

You call me a hypocrite for embracing A, but rejecting D.  You thus hold that A is like D.

I say that A : C :: B : D.

Mmmm, analogies.


intentional non sequitur : humourous nonsense-analogy :: doughnut : olive branch

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* Yes, hardfork.  Longstanding linguistic consensus has been changed in an irrational way; and the backwards-incompatible change is enforced by virtual lynch mobs, Kafkaesque persecutions, and socioeconomic terrorism.  Observe how people get attacked over using the “incorrect” pronouns, i.e. the correct pronouns!  If you refuse the hardfork changes, then there are zealots who want you universally shunned, fired from your job, and cancelled out of existence.  And they are gaining more power by the day—nobody pushes back!

I have been thinking about this:


That falls under the category of “your problem, not theirs”.

I regularly use things made by people whom I personally despise.  If I didn’t, then I would need to boycott >99% of all things in the modern world.  Including almost every product of the tech industry.  Including the Internet.  Should I render myself powerless and irrelevant, while people whom I despise make things that give them power, influence, prestige, and wealth?  I think not.

On the flipside, if I ever create something of significant value (which, thanks to the benefits of anonymity and pseudonymity, you may or may not ever know), then I would personally appreciate if you would please refrain from contaminating my pure and sacred creation with your grubby little hands.  You, and a few billion others.  At least, that is how I feel:  I wish for anything that I ever create to only be touched (or even seen) by people whom I approve politically, morally, and culturally.  But if I have a purpose for giving others something of value to them, then I am not inclined to defeat myself by throwing a hissy fit, grabbing my toys, and running away.

What about whatever productive work you may do?  Do you lie awake at night wondering if somebody you dislike may enjoy something that you have done?  To any creative personality, is that not infinitely more important than the personalities who made things that you consume?

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I think that this point needs a salutary object demonstration.

I hate simply cannot resist the opportunity to ruin this for you:  Dr Wernher von Braun, the chief architect of the rocket that put man on the moon, was a NSDAP member and SS officer who attained the rank of SS-Sturmbannführer.  I have no doubt that deep in his heart, he wished to put a swastika flag on the moon instead of the American flag.  And he was not the only like mind on the moon mission team; to the contrary!

I have a longtime pet theory that the “moon landing hoax” nonsense is motivated by this well-known fact on a very deep level.  It is a way of declaring Dr von Braun “cancelled”.

To help you cope with “the political beliefs of people [you] otherwise hold in high regard”, why don’t you open a P&S thread Revealing The Truth:  The so-called “moon landing” was a hoax concocted by an underground Nazi conspiracy to glorify the Third Reich!

Now, here and there on the Internet, you may have seen what appears to be PROOF that the moon landing hoax was done by Jews.  But of course, as a cover story in case the hoax was discovered, the Nazis had to create a meta conspiracy theory blaming the hoax on Jews.  Just because logically, Jews are exactly the people who would want for an SS officer and his fellows to be forever remembered in history as the builders of the first moon rocket.  That’s a typical Jewish thing!  It all makes sense!  Connect the dots, people!

Perhaps I myself should make such a thread.  The aforestated theory is more sensible than most of the stuff in P&S.

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Lest delicate liberal brains actually, literally, physically explode, I will not mention the various opinions of numerous poets, artists, scholars, scientists, and philosophers throughout history—e.g., what Voltaire said about blacks and Jews.  If, nutildah, you really want to apply some sort of a political correctness litmus test for “the political beliefs of people [you] otherwise hold in high regard for their contributions”, then more or less your only option is to go hide in a cave.

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End of edit.

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Naturally, as a gentleman, I paid you the compliment of presuming that you named yourself after the immortal genius whose epic poems are hailed by scholars as the founding documents of Western culture—the non-ephemeral Homer who will be remembered in the future, as he has been remembered for thousands of years—instead of a popular fictional fad character made to brainwash the masses into believing that men must be fat, stupid, out of control of their own lives, and not only lacking in household authority but also, abjectly undeserving of it.  D’oh!  I can almost hear Marge sighing at my mistake, before she does something to fix the situation with her homely practical wisdom.

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My contempt for modernity is not trolling!  To the contrary.

You misunderstood so completely that I am not sure how it is even possible (and if thus you are trolling me—touché, IHBT).  I was “trolling” sirazimuth over the CT/123 thing.  Edit:  And reviewing the context:  I wasn’t even criticizing modernity in the post that you very selectively (mis)quoted.  To the contrary, I was saying that old allegories can be adapted to the scenarios of new times.  Hypocrisy?  WTF?  Edit again:  Oh, so was your link specifically to an Urban Dictionary definition of “whore” intended to suggest that I be a hypocrite for finding timeless old stories relevant to new problems, but not chasing idiotic, oftentimes politically motivated fads in language?  If so, that is such an absurd confusion of concepts that I could not guess what you did not say.

Do you seriously suggest that, because I do generally despise the culture and worldview of modern times (i.e., about the past two centuries), I am a hypocrite if I don’t go full Amish?  That would present me with a false dilemma based on comically simpleminded, absolutely binary thinking.

Just because something is new, that doesn’t make it good—but that doesn’t necessarily make it bad, either.  Both fallacies are idiot-traps.  Moreover, only a fool refuses to use the tools available to him in his own life—if those tools can help him to achieve goals that are more important to him than the tools’ cost.

And by the way, speaking of newness—my contempt for modernity is not new.  E.g.:



In a modern world so absurd that I have almost wholly given up on satire, serious thought is mistaken for nonsense.

^^^ T-H-I-S !

Ancient cypherpunk wisdom from the last millennium:  Don’t write anything in unencrypted e-mail (or forum PMs) that you would not send on a postcard.

Edit:  Dabs, there you go, pre-empting me while I am writing a post and multitasking:

Moreover:


All non-public communications should be encrypted.  Period.

If you only encrypt selected things, then you are red-flagging those things as “something to hide”, leaking what is in practical effect contextual metadata, and inviting targeted attackers to seek specifically the things that you wanted to encrypt.  Oops.


Most of my personal communications are very, very boring.  Mundane.  All are encrypted.  All.  Except for limited temporary contact with people whom I am still harassing and browbeating into crypto.

My general policy is that if you don’t want to use end-to-end encrypted communications, which are easier to use than ever before (with so many things available that are easier than using gpg in the terminal!), it means that you do not want to talk to me.  Bye!  Although that is not always practical to enforce in business matters, I actually cut people out of my personal life over this.

There comes a moment:  Encrypt, or fork off.  It is just that simple.

Social pressure can work, if people want to talk to you more than you want to talk to them.  Before I became downright draconian about crypto, I had approximately 0% success at getting non-cypherpunk people into it.  Now, my success rate is infinity times 0%—and it is a useful filter to help discover who values me.  You know, it is psychologically unhealthy to pander to people who value you so little that they will not make even minimal effort to talk to you.  It means that you are a desperate loser.

Skip to the part that you should really want:  Verification bits!

V8s:  LOL. 😺

Thanks, johhny.  I am not really back, or not supposed to be; it is why my activity is kind of all in one place lately...


Hah, made you look!  Well, that was the point.

I said that I was tempted.  If I really wanted to pay people to embrace cryptographic security, then—why, then I would spam a PGP 256% airdrop bounty signature campaign in the altcoin get-rich-quick forum!

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So, anyone else up for doing the most advanced, temporally enforced crypto-forum crypto-key stake yet invented?

Feedback would be good.  How best could this work for you?  I sort of still a little bit idealistically hope to eventually someday develop this concept into something that people actually use.  Wow, such many qualifiers.

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Do not forget that SwayStar wanted to deplatform WO as an “extremely toxic community”.^*  Quote-unquote.

* Original topic title:  “Should Bitcoin Wall Observer thread be deleted?”  SwayStar later edited the title and OP only to call for merits to be disabled in WO.

I always comport myself as a gentleman, and I suggest that others do likewise.  I think that I am also well on record as communicating professionally with the few females who are interested in technical or financial topics, who are here for that purpose, and who behave themselves as mature adults instead of tantrum-throwing toddlers.

Whereas I read CryptoTourist as giving a big fuck-you to deplatforming, to cancel culture—to the notion that more than twenty-seven thousand pages of forum posts should be memory-holed because someone Got Offended On The Internet.  Here, honey, have a dose of “toxic”.  No, you can’t delete it.  This forum does not have a “Code of Conduct”, a “Trust and Safety Team”, or other features of a padded playpen.  Anyway, that was my take on it.

Accordingly, sirazimuth can go skullfuck himself with a dildo sculpted from his own sanctimonious bullshit.

I am using uncharacteristic expletives for a reason.

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For the record.  At greater length than before.  Because apparently, some people just don’t get it.  Sometimes, I need to be less subtle.

On another note...

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On Whores and Historical Perspective

Quote from: xhomerx10 on September 24, 2020, 11:34:12 AM

Quote from: nullius on September 24, 2020, 04:53:16 AM

...regularly adapted to problems and scenarios specific to modernity.  Etc...

~snip

[—discussion of whoring—]

 C'mon man.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whore

 An exposé on nullian hypocrisy will suffice.

Perhaps you may mistake me for a Christian—or for indulging the modern Victorian prudishness which, by no accident, coincided with stupid men’s invention of feminism.  Do you suppose that I buy into the Nineteenth Century’s orgy of modern democratic delusions?  Given the implausibility that I could be so foolish, I think it’s more probable that you have just never heard the old aristocratic aphorism, stated as to the lower classes, “The whore protects the virtue of the wife.”

Men will fuck women who are not their own wives.  That is human nature, on a level that cannot be changed unless humans are replaced by meat-robots (n.b.).  If common prostitutes are unavailable to low-class men who can neither access nor afford mistresses and courtesans, then they will chase each others’ wives, and society will fall apart.  To recognize this fact of life is necessary for wise governance—but of course, it would be indiscreet to mention this to the masses who need to be governed.  Oops.  Anyway, that is the old-fashioned view; attempts to outright eradicate prostitution are mostly new to modern democracies steeped in feminist dogmata.

So as for the lower classes.

Moreover, given that you name yourself after Homer, I’d expect that you would recognize my habitual allusions to classy sex in classical antiquity—including my posts with classical and neoclassical statues of Phryne, the hetaera who has inspired poets and artists for millennia.  That is neither modern nor degenerate.  For example:

I usually don’t label these things.  If you neither know, nor seek to know by yourself, then you do not deserve to know.  Anyway, this is a statue of Phryne—history’s most famous practitionress of the oldest profession:

Quote from: nullius on March 23, 2020, 02:29:04 PM

What, you want a clearer view?  (Do a double-take:  Yes, this is a statue.)

nullius’ girlfriend

Occasionally, as hereby, I do explain just a bit.

Quote from: nullius on February 28, 2020, 04:42:18 PM

Quote from: nullius on February 24, 2020, 07:29:30 PM

That is a statute of the most famous ancient Greek ἑταίρᾱν, the cultural equivalent of a classical gaṇikā.

I must remark but briefly:  Phryne was once tried on a criminal charge of blasphemy.  As an argument in her defence, her advocate stripped her naked before the tribunal.  That was his actual argument:  She was too beautiful to be guilty!  The Greeks associated physical beauty with moral excellence (and ugliness with wickedness).  Phryne was acquitted.

How do you accuse me of hypocrisy?

Quote from: xhomerx10 on September 24, 2020, 11:34:12 AM

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whore

You need a better dictionary.  Preferably one that, among other things, gives etymologies.  LOL!  A philology joke.  There I go being subtle again.  I cherish subtlety, because I care.

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Edited for clarity.

The United States, where this forum is located, has a safe harbour law that protects Internet forums from liability for defamatory content that is posted by third-party forum users:  The famous Section 230.  The law provides that the forum is not the legal “publisher” of the content.  Only the “publisher” is liable, i.e. the user who posted the content.  The forum is a service provider, not a publisher.

What I have just said is my own understanding of the subject; here is forum administration’s stated policy:

Boldface and italic are in the original; highlighting is mine:

For my part, I would be wary of attempts to police content that may arguably turn the forum into a “publisher” who is liable for the content.

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The above discussion is off-topic on this scam accusation thread.  I respectfully request that this thread stay narrowly on the topic of the scammer whom I have accused, #992662 “bingohouhou”.  If you wish to discuss forum policy, please take it up in Meta.  Thank you.

Are you literally 12 years old, or thereabouts?

I do ask literally, not figuratively.  In the latter case, I should just ignore you.  In the former case, I should desist from discussing porn in front of you.  (Either-or.)

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Edited for malapropisms and misplaced words that are uncharacteristic of me.  The same thing happened in my previous post.  I should take notice that arguing with idiots has no salutary effect on one’s own intelligence.

My reply to nutildah is re-arranged in descending order of relevance to things other than a forum argument:


Cameraphones were not around in 1949; nonetheless, they are aptly described as handheld portable “telescreens”.  Allegories in literature ranging from Homeric poems to Shakespearean plays are regularly adapted to problems and scenarios specific to modernity.  Etc...

Moreover, the They Live adaptation was not directed at Covid.  It spoke to the reaction to Covid:  Whole societies throughout the world being essentially put under mass house-arrest, under a barrage of official propaganda.  Surely, concerns about mass coercion and manipulative control existed in 1988—and such things were indeed the essential subject addressed allegorically by the film in question.  This is not about Covid, qua Covid.

For more decades than you have probably been alive, some people have been warning that governments could exploit a crisis for tyrannical purposes.  Most people blew them off as “paranoid conspiracy theorists”.  You are blowing them off as paranoid conspiracy theorists when their erstwhile predictions have actually come true.  It is no longer a matter of arguing over potential future happenings:  It is denial of present reality.

—Unless you want to argue that there is nothing whatsoever tyrannical about mass lockdowns under the rubric of unlimited peremptory rule by “emergency” orders.  In that case, we have nothing whatsoever to discuss.


Translation:  When you cannot argue substance, you argue form—and you try to flip everything on its head so as to make it look like you are taking the high road.  That is also intellectually dishonest.  I do not say that for the purpose of being insulting, but rather, as a concise and accurate description.


That’s nice of you, as to form.  In substance, you completely misinterpreted the post, and tried to link it to your American election—a matter of much less concern to the rest of the world than Americans would like to believe.

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What we need is less fewer (edit: the pedant is must correct himself) arguments with American liberals who are currently whipped into a frenzy over their irrelevant election (which I was not the one to bring up here), and more Bitcoin porn.

By “we”, I mean “I”.

I have comedic licence to rip these cherry-picked misquotes out of context.

So, which is it?  I hear that there is a rising financial starlet who wants to know if you can be swayed to assuage her loneliness by the vast amount of Bitcoin that she makes day-trading.

No, I am not trying to incite any offensive behaviour toward the individual in question.  My sensibilities as a gentleman would not allow such a thing!  Rather, I am trolling sirazimuth, who got upset over a post that SwayStar apparently just ignored.

You started this by directing a barrage of insults at Karartma1 for his amusing joke:  “Retarded”, “Alex Jonestown” (whereas you’re the only person who has even mentioned Alex Jones!), “shill”, etc.  I am not the only one who objected—although perhaps I was the most vehement.  You then continued to grind your axe on an irrelevant point by belittling and insulting the intelligence of others generally.

I accused you of dishonestly pushing an agenda, based on your observed behaviour.  I used sharper words when warranted warranted.

Your passing this off as a matter of my insulting you is an evasive misdirection.

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—So summarized, with links to relevant statements, for the convenience of anyone else who may be curious.  Not you.  Of course, you know who said what; and moreover, as I have told you before:


OK.

You get caught cold using bullshit twisty propaganda techniques to push an agenda, and you just ignore it?  Let’s see, what else:


This continued belittling, combined with vast leaps of illogic.  Did you read from Saul Alinsky’s playbook?

Of course, the typical ordinary individual worried about this kind of thing is not personally a target of a global conspiracy.  An ordinary individual is not worth it (unless he ceases to be ordinary by becoming extraordinarily troublesome).  Global power is.

A global conspiracy in fact exists.  Stop with the belittling, or else I will toss something into P&S that give some of the real retards there endless fuel to annoy you:  An open admission, at the baseline, of the existence of a conspiracy to destroy national sovereignty throughout the world, via dishonest covert means.  Real and verifiable (from JSTOR, no less).  Brazenly hiding in plain sight.  Just one tiny little tidbit, a bare scintilla of evidence, a verifiable quotation from someone who would know whereof he spoke...  No, I will not Reveal The Truth (which is anyway far too complex to be understood by ordinary people).

I think that she skedaddled because nobody would believe in her market calls and various claims of spectacular trading prowess.  Sort of like why she apparently skedaddled a few months ago.  Either that, or she just got too damn rich to hang out on an Internet forum anymore.

May I suggest a salutary observation of how I subsequently rolled Cryptotourist’s “off topic tongue in cheek silliness” with humour of my own, just to keep the peace between those lovebirds, instead of radiating disapproval at a quirky and insightful chap who was probably a bit peeved at SwayStar for her demand that WO be deleted as “toxic”.^*  LOL.  At least, that was my read on it.

* Original topic title:  “Should Bitcoin Wall Observer thread be deleted?”  Title and OP later edited to call instead for merits to be disabled in WO.


She was asking for it there.

By “she”, “was”, and “there”, I mean respectively “you”, “are”, and “here”, because I have Progressed your confusion of pronouns to confusion of inflections, and of other parts of speech.

No, you will not get a long post so easily.  Not even a custom title.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg55247366#msg55247366

Say what?  The altered version of the film image read, “STAY HOME”, not “WEAR A MASK”.  The difference is substantive, insofar as I think that many people who object to lockdowns and the shutdown of society would, of their own accord, wear masks.  Yet you drag a broad brush of what is hereby an inaccurate “anti-masker” label, then tack on Alex Jones and Donald Trump—plus “retarded” insults.

Agenda much?  And do you apply the same intellectual honesty and accuracy elsewhere?

Of course, I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting that you mistook simple English words.  I don’t think that you’re retarded.

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This also has nothing to do with masks, but rather, with an abject lack of historical perspective:


Your smug contempt is misplaced.  Under various names, the “New World Order” thing has been ongoing since much before 1918.  It is indeed real, although most of the people who talk about it have no idea what they are talking about.

To obviate a potentially long discussion reaching back before the Twentieth Century, I will simply point out that the Federal Reserve was established in 1913.  (And if you believe that that was benignly intended, I have a bridge hot defi ICO to sell you...)

The public discussion of the international conspiracy to enslave the whole world has also been ongoing longer than you think.

Mentioned just for kicks:  I recall once having happened across a political cartoon in a newspaper from (IIRC) 1906 1911 depicting Karl Marx being welcomed to the United States by a group of famous American bankers and industrial magnates.  Off the top of my head, I think it caricatured Morgan, Rockefeller, Carnegie, and a few others.  Unfortunately, I do not have it handy; and I lost the reference (wherefore “just for kicks”).  I should find that again some day.  Perhaps you could help, applying those skills at digging up obscure articles from century-old newspapers.  Surely you have spent much time perusing historical primary sources, as I have?  Edit:  Thank you, Last of the V8s.  That deserves much more than +2.


No, we’re they’re trying globally to_combat a low-lethality pandemic by locking everybody up like caged animals, guaranteeing that the animals will be controlled with hunger pangs by simultaneously inflating the currency supply and imploding economic production, instituting a mass-surveillance wet-dream under the rubric of public health protection via “contract tracing”, etc., etc.  Edit:  LOL, V8s.  Yes, that was a delightful typo whereas “contract tracing” is a kind of FATF thing...

If they were just telling people to wear masks and wash their hands, and advising elderly and other at-risk people to self-isolate, then you would have a point.  Focus on the IF.

Irony Day, Part I.


Ah, the narrowly blinkered view of someone who believes that the whole world revolves around the direly important American election—which is this time so “polarized”, because Tweedledum is four millimeters apart from Tweedledee instead of three—newsflash, Americans:  Trump and Biden are in fundamental agreement on all of the important issues!^*

Moreover, you seem unaware that They Live has been a sort of underground political touchstone for decades before Alex Jones came from wherever he did.  That’s been a thing since before some of the people here (including you?) were born.

So, somebody adapted the alien subliminal mind-control imagery to “STAY HOME”?  It’s funny.  LOL.

No, I have not seen the film.  It has long been on a short list of films that I do intend to watch... someday.  I am admittedly not much of a cinema buff.

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* Neither will even think about truly important changes, such as calling on Congress to send up bills abolishing the Federal Reserve and the income tax.

Both fundamentally agree that immigration is good; they moderately disagree in degree about how much, whereas the immigration issue is anyway irrelevant:  You know all those oh-so-paranoid fringe alarmists who warned decades ago, probably before you were born, that America would then very soon pass the demographic point of no return?  Guess what:  They were right!  For America to remain a white-majority country in the long term, you now need to deport a large plurality of the population—probably something on the order of the 10⁸ magnitude.  Many of whom are legal citizens.  Many of whom are second- and third- and more- generation citizens.  Many of whom are the products of intermarriage.  Many of whom hold key positions in the government, the military, and the economy.  Good luck undoing accomplished facts without a time machine.  Europeans, n.b.

The whole American “immigration debate” is a twisted logical isomorphism of some proverb about when it is not useful to lock the barn door.  Thus you see, the dialectic between the people who think that America will be saved by spending years talking about building a wall, and the people who are viscerally terrified by hot air over a nonexistent wall, is all just completely retarded on both sides.

Both Trump and Biden (and potential future president Harris!) love the mass-surveillance police state.  Both will happily bomb the hell out of funny furrin peephole on a whim, which is, after all, the American Way.  Both are corrupt to their cores.  Both are in hock to BigCorp Global Capitalism.  Both are basically International Communists, rather like Kerensky (R) and Lenin (D).

Let’s see... what did I forget?  Ah, yes:  Trump has funnier tweets!  VOTE TRUMP!  I do like his tweets, especially the ones that make liberals cry.  Protip for both sides:  He’s a career showman.

If you vote, then you are part of the problem.

I need to stop writing footnotes that are longer than the nominal primary substance of the post.

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Edit:  How could I forget?  Guns.  Biden probably masturbates fantasizing about total confiscation.  Trump “only” wants more red flag laws, more restrictiveness—and as seen with bump stocks, “shall not be infringed” does not exist in his vocabulary when the media are in an uproar.  He does whatever is most politically convenient, erring on the side of gun-grabbing.  Trump and Biden fundamentally agree that firearms must be under the strict control of the government.

Well, perhaps this particular issue is not Coke versus Pepsi:  It is Coca-Cola Classic versus Diet Pepsi!  What choices Americans have.  No wonder they find the election so exciting, and believe that the whole world shares their fixation.