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[Cryptotourist]

Don't get me wrong, it's not like I'm saying that Bitcoin isn't still the best performing and most undervalued asset on the planet.

Believe me, I'm trying.

Worse case, pretty much 99% guaranteed to double within the next 4 years...find me ANY other asset that is capable of that kind of growth. Hell if Bitcoin at a minimum just nets 8-10%/year over a 4 year average, then it's still by far the winningest investment on planet earth and will at least keep up with inflation.

My objection was about the 4 year cycle. It's clearly defined by the halvings, hashrate & difficulty.
We are at the point of the cycle that we should see a lot of growth next year - much like 2017. You'll see your volumes then.

I believe that it will continue that progress which is why I still remain 100% all in.

So do I. If the pattern starts to break, you can bet that I will start calling it out. Just not any time soon. The 2032 halving will show, but corn is going to be in the millions by then. I'm pretty sure I have a couple of thousand euros in the bank. The rest is BTC.

But a guaranteed moonshot in the next 4 years? I'm not saying that it won't happen. I would personally love to see it happen. But nothing is guaranteed, and anyone who thinks that is a fool. It would take a LOT of money coming in for that to happen, and right now that kind of buying pressure doesn't exist with average Joe retail investors anymore. I'm not seeing it in the existing volume, and tbh haven't see it since 2017.

Agreed, nothing is guaranteed. But they are printing so much money man!

And if you haven't heard, multi-millionaires are able to take $500M long positions without moving the market even a little bit.

Did I blink? A whale's wet dream.

Anyone that buys into Bitcoin as an investment, should be looking at a minimum hodling of at least 2 halving cycles, if not 3. That's 8-12 years MINIMUM of hodling. Most n00bies apparently don't have the stomach for that. Most are off to buying some shitcoins and praying for a mini moonshot to try and get rich overnight.

Actually I'm already freaking out in advance about next year's bull run. I don't want to sell a fucking thing tbh. Which is completely stupid, because I can increase my stack for one (if I get it right), and two stick the finger to the banking system. Both give me pleasure, but the idea of selling part of my stack just makes me uncomfortable. That said, of course I will.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Cut the nonsense out bears

[HI-TEC99]

Cut the nonsense out bears

From here on out, no more meaningless memes

[Toxic2040]

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[Paashaas]

That is quite simply to explain. The history books are full of shit because some people don't want you to know what happend on this planet for real.

Example: Great Pyramids of Gize were not build by Egyptians, even Aristoteles and Plato wrote, that the Egyptians told and showed him, that they inherited those monolitic structures with the math to that and they are bound to preserving them. There are some quite good engineers from different disciplines who all say, that this is not possible with bronce chisels and stones, hence material used in the pyramids and southern America is near adamantine and much, much older (in the six figures) then stated. Even modern techniques of building are not near to the precision of the pyramids, despite a lot of engineers tried to rebuild those structures and all failed even with modern tools.

My two cents for that  

You got that right, that was a nice insight from you Elirippos friend going to merrit you when i have new one's to spend. I've spend my last 2 on Cryptotourist and soullyG.

Not long ago i saw on TV a docu how they lift those stones. They showed a lifting catapult with a 70kg block and continued straight after the building process of the entire pyramide.. lol. But they didn't explained how they lift those 100 to 1000+ tons massive blocks, you need a huge crane for that ore how to make those drill holes in granite and all those mindblowing stuff you see inside. The nearest quarry is located in Aswan few hundred kilometers away transported with a boat but those wooden boats would instantly sink. 6 figures is highly possible, it takes a very long time in evolution to reach that kind of intellect.

They all lie because of religion. Religion is corrupted over time, according to Sumarians the original records are still hidden under the tunnels of the pyramids. They refuse to escavate the site because when people find out that there was another civilisation ore beeings from other planets that whole scam while collapse. ( They have been indoctrinated over time you can't talk it out of there head that easily, look what happend in France this week after they released that Charlie Hebdo cartoon, a stabbing spree.) Jezus, Moses, Allha, Shiva, Brahma and Vishnu where all students to give uss a head-start and left. Unfortuanlly, books like the bible and the Koran where rewritten so many times to favor those leaders to fight there wars and to make them rich. Hinduism (Shiva as supreme being within Shaivism) is the world's oldest religion and Boedha are the most still intact.

Edit: Cryptotourist donated fresh merrits, thx

[OutOfMemory]

That is quite simply to explain. The history books are full of shit because some people don't want you to know what happend on this planet for real.

Example: Great Pyramids of Gize were not build by Egyptians, even Aristoteles and Plato wrote, that the Egyptians told and showed him, that they inherited those monolitic structures with the math to that and they are bound to preserving them. There are some quite good engineers from different disciplines who all say, that this is not possible with bronce chisels and stones, hence material used in the pyramids and southern America is near adamantine and much, much older (in the six figures) then stated. Even modern techniques of building are not near to the precision of the pyramids, despite a lot of engineers tried to rebuild those structures and all failed even with modern tools.

My two cents for that  

You got that right, that was a nice insight from you Elirippos friend going to merrit you when i have new one's to spend. I've spend my last 2 on Cryptotourist and soullyG.

Not long ago i saw on TV a docu how they lift those stones. They showed a lifting catapult with a 70kg block and continued straight after the building process of the entire pyramide.. lol. But they didn't explained how they lift those 100 to 1000+ tons massive blocks, you need a huge crane for that ore how to make those drill holes in granite and all those mindblowing stuff you see inside. The nearest quarry is located in Aswan few hundred kilometers away transported with a boat but those wooden boats would instantly sink. 6 figures is highly possible, it takes a very long time in evolution to reach that kind of intellect.

They all lie because of religion. Religion is corrupted over time, according to Sumarians the original records are still hidden under the tunnels of the pyramids. They refuse to escavate the site because when people find out that there was another civilisation ore beeings from other planets that whole scam while collapse. ( They have been indoctrinated over time you can't talk it out of there head that easily, look what happend in France this week after they released that Charlie Hebdo cartoon, a stabbing spree.) Jezus, Moses, Allha, Shiva, Brahma and Vishnu where all students to give uss a head-start and left. Unfortuanlly, books like the bible and the Koran where rewritten so many times to favor those leaders to fight there wars and to make them rich. Hinduism (Shiva as supreme being within Shaivism) is the world's oldest religion and Boedha are the most still intact.

Edit: Cryptotourist donated fresh merrits, thx

I once read some work by scifi author stanislav lem, where he spun a story about mankind evolving over and over again from (unknown) genesis to self destruction, for numerous iterations. The bottom line was that what we consider to be ancient structures are leftovers of a former mankind that was eradicating itself, and ages later it was all starting again with an ape throwing a stick. I don't remember the title, but it was fascinating. Paper was called "papyr", and it was kind of self destructing, so culture and knowledge vanished with it, forcing to start development all over again.

Otherwise, i always felt some affinity to this idea of "mankind as an alien experiment", whenever i read about or was remembered of it.

[degxtra1]

Seems that we are achieving critical mass.



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[explorer]

That is quite simply to explain. The history books are full of shit because some people don't want you to know what happend on this planet for real.

Example: Great Pyramids of Gize were not build by Egyptians, even Aristoteles and Plato wrote, that the Egyptians told and showed him, that they inherited those monolitic structures with the math to that and they are bound to preserving them. There are some quite good engineers from different disciplines who all say, that this is not possible with bronce chisels and stones, hence material used in the pyramids and southern America is near adamantine and much, much older (in the six figures) then stated. Even modern techniques of building are not near to the precision of the pyramids, despite a lot of engineers tried to rebuild those structures and all failed even with modern tools.

My two cents for that  

You got that right, that was a nice insight from you Elirippos friend going to merrit you when i have new one's to spend. I've spend my last 2 on Cryptotourist and soullyG.

Not long ago i saw on TV a docu how they lift those stones. They showed a lifting catapult with a 70kg block and continued straight after the building process of the entire pyramide.. lol. But they didn't explained how they lift those 100 to 1000+ tons massive blocks, you need a huge crane for that ore how to make those drill holes in granite and all those mindblowing stuff you see inside. The nearest quarry is located in Aswan few hundred kilometers away transported with a boat but those wooden boats would instantly sink. 6 figures is highly possible, it takes a very long time in evolution to reach that kind of intellect.

They all lie because of religion. Religion is corrupted over time, according to Sumarians the original records are still hidden under the tunnels of the pyramids. They refuse to escavate the site because when people find out that there was another civilisation ore beeings from other planets that whole scam while collapse. ( They have been indoctrinated over time you can't talk it out of there head that easily, look what happend in France this week after they released that Charlie Hebdo cartoon, a stabbing spree.) Jezus, Moses, Allha, Shiva, Brahma and Vishnu where all students to give uss a head-start and left. Unfortuanlly, books like the bible and the Koran where rewritten so many times to favor those leaders to fight there wars and to make them rich. Hinduism (Shiva as supreme being within Shaivism) is the world's oldest religion and Boedha are the most still intact.

Edit: Cryptotourist donated fresh merrits, thx

I once read some work by scifi author stanislav lem, where he spun a story about mankind evolving over and over again from (unknown) genesis to self destruction, for numerous iterations. The bottom line was that what we consider to be ancient structures are leftovers of a former mankind that was eradicating itself, and ages later it was all starting again with an ape throwing a stick. I don't remember the title, but it was fascinating. Paper was called "papyr", and it was kind of self destructing, so culture and knowledge vanished with it, forcing to start development all over again.

Otherwise, i always felt some affinity to this idea of "mankind as an alien experiment", whenever i read about or was remembered of it.

When the sun goes BOOM every 12ka or so, we start over.  Or go underground for a time, to dwindle.

[philipma1957]

For anybody who are not familiar with megalith sites i'm going to post some of them. There are many more available from sites around the world. High advanced technology is required to build this and they did this thousands of years ago. How the fck they managed to bend those stones, the angles the precision is mindblowing. People lived like cavemen during that time and i refuse to believe they pulled this off with just a hammer and a chisel. If we know how to build like that we would see European medieval castles the same way i mean they where not able to translate that kind of intellect in otherday use cases, which means it would be constructed by A: a much older human civilization ore B: the Sumerians where right about those sky gods ore giants. When corn tops out next year ore so i'll cash out some and start traveling not only to for example the Bahama's, also to these places to see it with my own eye's. This will be my last post about this subject, i just wanna make people aware that Earth history is full with mysteries.

That is quite simply to explain. The history books are full of shit because some people don't want you to know what happend on this planet for real.

Example: Great Pyramids of Gize were not build by Egyptians, even Aristoteles and Plato wrote, that the Egyptians told and showed him, that they inherited those monolitic structures with the math to that and they are bound to preserving them. There are some quite good engineers from different disciplines who all say, that this is not possible with bronce chisels and stones, hence material used in the pyramids and southern America is near adamantine and much, much older (in the six figures) then stated. Even modern techniques of building are not near to the precision of the pyramids, despite a lot of engineers tried to rebuild those structures and all failed even with modern tools.

My two cents for that 

My late mom in law on her death 💀 bed pulled me and her daughter close to her and said to us “they lie”

we asked who is lying she then said “ the ones in charge”.

I always remember that moment back in dec 1994.

I could write ten thousand lies i have seen heard or read from governments news shows etc. since that day.

so here are some merits bro.

[JayJuanGee]

Am I the only asshole buying Eth until 32 then more Bitcoin right now? Fucking laugh at me the fool right?

Yes...

Ethereum is a shitcoin...

Don't buy it..

Don't even take it for free.  

Sorry...that "meme magic" is 100% lost on me.

1. not even into memes...took me months/years to finally ask "the hat-master" for a hat.
2. I did not get the meme...dog loves her already? duh! but then, why "she is asking me to go deeper"?
...confusing...does not compute...%#%#$%^*...primary CPU is out, secondary is overheating...

Have you ever heard of the expression:  "a picture is worth a thousand words"?

In essence, memes cause posts to be shorter, especially if they do not need to be explained. 

 

 That's all well and good until your meme doesn't meme what you think it memes.

Fair enough.

I don't claim to be accurate, insightful and/or profound in all matters of memery, if there were such a practice.

Contrary to the beliefs and wishes of some, I remain a mere mortal, who just tries his/her/they/its best under whatever time and creativity (or lack thereof) pressure and other personal circumstances that are then in play.

Why most people will have poor returns with Bitcoin.

https://twitter.com/HODLBitty/status/1309561160275034113

That meme is so true. And I have to admit that I was stupid enough to follow the trading advice queue.
Not anymore, full buy, hold, and forget now.

@JJG
Your adjusted dca strategy might be a good fit for my needs. Thanks

I did not realize that I had an "adjusted" portion of DCA strategy, and sure, likely I have been all over the place throughout the years in terms of how DCA might be applied, so whatever aspect of DCA strategy might have been adjusted may have been tweaked since the time of my at-issue statement, no? 

[OutOfMemory]

Volume and RSI on the hourly showing opportunities for "substantial" moves.
Up or down?

+1 merit this post for "up", +2 for "down" and +3 for "sidewayish"  
*just joking kidding!*  

EDIT:
It's sunday in my timezone now, so:

put the fun back in
fear and anger keeps you down
time for standing up

against the system
the system of fear and doubt
time for standing up

lying on my couch
sleep starts creeping up my back
time for standing up

as soon as i stand
i'll be starting the slow walk
off to bed. good night!

in that manner, i wish y'all some nice dreams.  
#hodlsleep

[OutOfMemory]

Whenever I hear tis "Fuck you to everyone else"..
I always remember tis song:
https://youtu.be/YH9Nwa0RvO8

"There's some hoes in this house.. that's some wet ass pussy!"

you got me on the leave there.
I can't just go to sleep without knowing that answer:

wet
ass pussy

OR

wet ass
pussy



 
#nohomo

[OutOfMemory]

Remember:
Always go full homo when it cums to bitcoin!
It won't ever lead you ass-tray!

https://youtu.be/znBWT1VoWDM - Scotty Sire Take me away!
#fullhomo

Fuck, the guy totally looks like young Boris Becker  

EDIT:
This face plus voice actually made my day, it likely can't be getting any better, i guess.
I give in.
Off to well earned sleep

[HI-TEC99]

Cut the nonsense out bears

[rdbase]

Bitcoin is madly cheap. Absolute bargain

Buy, Hodl, say fuck you to everyone else.

Whenever I hear tis "Fuck you to everyone else"..
I always remember tis song:
https://youtu.be/YH9Nwa0RvO8
"There's some hoes in this house.. that's some wet ass pussy!"

Am I the only asshole buying Eth until 32 then more Bitcoin right now? Fucking laugh at me the fool right?

Yes... Ethereum is a shitcoin...
Don't buy it.. Don't even take it for free.  

Sorry...that "meme magic" is 100% lost on me.
1. not even into memes...took me months/years to finally ask "the hat-master" for a hat.
2. I did not get the meme...dog loves her already? duh! but then, why "she is asking me to go deeper"?
...confusing...does not compute...%#%#$%^*...primary CPU is out, secondary is overheating...

Have you ever heard of the expression:  "a picture is worth a thousand words"?
In essence, memes cause posts to be shorter, especially if they do not need to be explained.  
 

Ethereum is a shitcoin but I mine it so I can sell it for something I can actually use..
Mon'y to buy more BTC!
Cause mon'y is mon'y!
Don't stop the memes JJG don't listen to wha toxic had to say with his meme.
You are mememaster yoda like kermit in a jedi robe! Remember that for life.

Woof.
Observing $10771.
Can barely wait for September to fuck off.

Whenever I hear tis "Fuck you to everyone else"..
I always remember tis song:
https://youtu.be/YH9Nwa0RvO8
"There's some hoes in this house.. that's some wet ass pussy!"

you got me on the leave there.
I can't just go to sleep without knowing that answer:
wetass pussy OR wet asspussy
#nohomo

Remember: Always go full homo when it comes to bitcoin!
It won't ever lead you ass-tray!
#fullhomo

https://youtu.be/znBWT1VoWDM - Scotty Sire Take me away!
(there is an enema in this music video just before this screen hence the unicorn's draggin' it's ass.)

[nullius]

N.b. that this is theocrasy (not a typo!), not an historical statement at all; I will nonetheless address it historically:

Jezus, Moses, Allha, Shiva, Brahma and Vishnu where all students to give uss a head-start and left.

Jesus and Moses are fictional characters.  Such can be said because they are alleged to have been historically extant human beings; and the Biblical alleged histories are bunk, just fiction (although they may be in part based very roughly on composites of bits and pieces of historical events).

In particular, I am amazed that anybody after the late 19c./early 20c. treats Jesus as having any more reality than the Wizard of Oz.  The Gospels are historically prepostrous.  Josephus was a liar generally, as can be readily demonstrated on many points (not only relevant to this issue).  Roman historical sources contemporaneous to, or soon after the alleged life of Jesus contain absolutely nothing about corroborates the story; biased “scholars” are left hanging onto some old chestnut about Tacitus and “Chrestus”, a misinterpretation that is completely absurd to anyone with even the slightest knowledge of the matter.  Etc...  Moreover, there is no reliable evidence that Christians (i.e. followers of Jesus) existed before the Second Century.

The others whom you listed are wholly mystical beings, not susceptible to scientific examination or other rational scholarship.  It is, strictly speaking, not irrational to believe in the existence of such beings somewhere that mere mortals (and their scientific instruments) cannot see.

The alleged historicity of Jesus was actually what I was thinking of specifically, when I wrote this:

I love history it gets really crazy the more i search.

Most of what you think you know about history is wrong.

That’s not personal.  It is just a general observation.  Most of what people believe to be “history” is fake news, either twisted or just made up by somebody with an agenda somewhere along the line—the Bible being only the worst and most notorious example.  Indeed, if you want a neat demonstration of just how bad the problem is, peruse the idiot-bait on Wikipedia and follow the “verifiable” citations to so-called “scholars” who crank out arrant nonsense “supporting” or “investigating” the historicity of completely fictional stories.

Hinduism (Shiva as supreme being within Shaivism) is the world's oldest religion and Boedha are the most still intact.

Not intact in the least.

Many if not most of the modern sects of the Hindus are almost unrecognizable compared even to the diverse syncretisms of the Hindu Golden Age, let alone the religion of Vedic times.

The oldest religion would probably be something from prehistorical times—therefore perforce unknown.  I need not reach the question of which religion has the oldest historically or archaeologically attested tradition.

Gautama expressed an essentially atheistic philosophy, eerily similar to Schopenhauer’s World as Will.  His Nirvana had the same objective as Schopenhauer’s Renunciation.  All of the Buddhist religious mysticism was piled on later, after the historical Gautama.  Such a thing could conceivably also happen over the course of future centuries to Schopenhauer and his quasi-mystical palingenesis of the Will, which can only be escaped by renouncing all desires and attaining the state of Nirvana, i.e. nonexistence.  (Sanskrit nirvāṇa = ‘extinguished’, literally ‘blown out’ in the sense of a candle.)

Obligatory at this juncture:

For this remains [] the essential difference between the two religions of decadence:  Buddhism promises nothing, but actually fulfills; Christianity promises everything, but fulfills nothing.

Parenthetically, I must remark that Gautama and Schopenhauer are correct:  Life inevitably has more suffering than joy.  People with an inner vitality must fight every day for a few precious joys amidst many sorrows.  Decadent people tire of this, and thus seek escape.  The desired escape can be rational and realistic as Gautama and Schopenhauer, or an irrational escapist fantasy, such as the Christian heaven or the transhumanist Singularity.


I have no desire to discuss this now at length; and I have avoided this general line of discussion for want of time even to parse it.  Dashing this off in haste, I simply call out a few points well known to me, which happened to have caught my eye as I skim down to try to catch up with what must be the fastest-moving forum thread in the world.

(Although bit weak on south Asian/Indian subcontinent history, may be you didn't expressed yourself much and i avoid correcting peeps on interweb)

I’d be pleased for some pointers on the Lokāyaka. ;-)

(I appreciated that your post, and did not intend to ignore it.  If were to I answer the question that you thereby asked, I should do so properly; but I have (as yet?) lacked both the time and the inclination for such a discussion here—sorry.  It also invokes the problem that I keep my reading list private; indeed, I use Tor to help assure that nobody can track what I am reading.)

[Last of the V8s]

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[HI-TEC99]

[heslo]

For anybody who are not familiar with megalith sites i'm going to post some of them. There are many more available from sites around the world. High advanced technology is required to build this and they did this thousands of years ago. How the fck they managed to bend those stones, the angles the precision is mindblowing. People lived like cavemen during that time and i refuse to believe they pulled this off with just a hammer and a chisel. If we know how to build like that we would see European medieval castles the same way i mean they where not able to translate that kind of intellect in otherday use cases, which means it would be constructed by A: a much older human civilization ore B: the Sumerians where right about those sky gods ore giants. When corn tops out next year ore so i'll cash out some and start traveling not only to for example the Bahama's, also to these places to see it with my own eye's. This will be my last post about this subject, i just wanna make people aware that Earth history is full with mysteries.

That is quite simply to explain. The history books are full of shit because some people don't want you to know what happend on this planet for real.

Example: Great Pyramids of Gize were not build by Egyptians, even Aristoteles and Plato wrote, that the Egyptians told and showed him, that they inherited those monolitic structures with the math to that and they are bound to preserving them. There are some quite good engineers from different disciplines who all say, that this is not possible with bronce chisels and stones, hence material used in the pyramids and southern America is near adamantine and much, much older (in the six figures) then stated. Even modern techniques of building are not near to the precision of the pyramids, despite a lot of engineers tried to rebuild those structures and all failed even with modern tools.

My two cents for that 

My late mom in law on her death 💀 bed pulled me and her daughter close to her and said to us “they lie”

we asked who is lying she then said “ the ones in charge”.

I always remember that moment back in dec 1994.

I could write ten thousand lies i have seen heard or read from governments news shows etc. since that day.

so here are some merits bro.

That's quite interesting. Was the MIL ever in any position to know more/have heard something that she shouldn't have. Not that I doubt her regardless; most of the morons we share this earth with couldn't handle truths to simple things hence why we are lied to about the even bigger stuff

[nullius]

P.S., not sure how I glanced by this point before:

Hinduism (Shiva as supreme being within Shaivism) is the world's oldest religion and Boedha are the most still intact.

Not intact in the least.

Many if not most of the modern sects of the Hindus are almost unrecognizable compared even to the diverse syncretisms of the Hindu Golden Age, let alone the religion of Vedic times.

Your allegation that Shaivism be the “world’s oldest religion”, and by implication that it was the original Hindu orthodoxy, rather prove my point that nothing is “intact” about any of these religions.

Way back when, the only Hindu “supreme being” was the impersonal Brahma (neuter noun), whence sprang the Trimūrti (a trinity):  Brahman (masculine noun; the Creator), Vishnu (the Preserver), and Siva (the Destroyer).  In the beginning was only Brahma; all existence may be said to be no more than an illusion imagined by Brahma; and all things shall return to Brahma, only to re-emerge in an eternal cycle.  The closest Western concepts to Brahma are in various aspects such things as Chaos, whence sprang the universe, and Fate, which controls the destinies even of the gods.

The syncretisms and variations that developed as Hindu orthodoxies over the centuries and millennia form an astounding tangle.  They all share the same Vedic roots, of course—somewhat in a manner analogous to how Sanskrit shares linguistic roots with Greek.  That is what distinguishes them from such outrageous heresies as Buddhism, or the skeptical philosophy of Lokāyaka (a highly intelligent rational atheism which rejects all mysticism, denies the existence of all gods, and holds that human consciousness is a material bodily process that ceases at the death of the individual), etc.

The same processes operate on all religions.  Judaism was originally polytheistic (as seen at Elephantine).  The Christian denominations of the Fifteenth Century would all have been condemned as heresies by each of the many different Christian sects of the Second or Third Century—and vice versa.  Zoroastrianism later had Mithraism as a direct descendant, so to speak.  The Greek religious beliefs of later Hellenistic times were of a different Zeitgeist from the beliefs of Homeric heroes (although here, the difference seems less significant due to the implicitly pluralistic nature of Greek polytheism).  Etc., etc.

The bottom line is that men create gods in their own images; and as societies change, so do their concepts of divinity.