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1061  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A proven way to make money from gambling - what's your opinion about this? on: December 14, 2018, 07:11:04 PM
Your title is completely misleading.

This isn't a proven way to win, this is just betting at low odds, which is probably the worse possible way of gambling... You're sur to win only a veeeeeeeery tiny amount of money when winning, and you lose it all if the horse gets to win...

Right. And i probably wouldn't have the patience for this tactic. Why gamble at all then? You take away the excitement by playing a little bit too safe that you compromise a lot of things that make gambling fun.

What does patience have to do with it? You increase your bet sizes and you can still win decent amounts...

That said, I do think that over the long term, you're bound to lose some time.
This might be a very low risk way of betting, but it sure isn't 100% guaranteed.

I really doubt that this is actually +EV for the player.
From all gambling games, betting on horse and dog racing are the ones I dont like at all. I dont know anyone who made money on this, and I know a lot of people who like to bet on horses and dogs. Betting on low odds is never a good way to bet, in any sport, when you win you win a little, when you lose you lose a lot, after everything you end up losing much more than winning. People will never learn that there isnt a proven way to win in gambling, you need to lose in gambling too, its the game where you win and lose all the time, good gamblers just win more than they lose, others lose more than winning.
1062  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🎲[BOUNTY] EOSJACKS - EOS Gaming Platform, Monthly Payout, EOS Prizes (~$600k)💰🚀 on: December 13, 2018, 07:47:14 PM
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1063  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Concerning the future of bounty programs on: December 12, 2018, 03:34:52 PM
There is nothing to be worried about, this is just a bad season for bounty hunters because as we know the bear market has lasted a lot longer than expected and the only thing that you can do is to deal with and accept it because no matter how much you do not like it, it is not going to disappear and things are not going to get better, so for the time being it is better to do something else to try to earn money in the market of cryptocurrencies.
What other opportunities for earning can be if not bounty and investment? If you are talking about mining, then it is also not profitable today, if you open the bulletin board, there is a lot of information about it
People are earning from bounties for some time already, like from signature campaigns that last even longer, looks like all that is coming to an end, but that should be a reason for each of us to find something more safe where we can work and earn cryptocoins from. I have some investments, and I would like to have them more, but we should work on that more than we work on bounties. Investments in some pos coins, that will bring earning, in some shares, or what ever that can bring some profit monthly or yearly.
1064  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin need a miracle on: December 11, 2018, 06:29:15 PM
Bitcoin does not need a miracle, all Bitcoin need is to be Bitcoin, whoever thought that Bitcoin could reach $20k that fast! And yet it did, I know that the situation is hard but it is definitely not harder than reaching 20k, from a coin worth $1 to a coin worth $20k is just a few years, Bitcoin will do it again it just needs some time and I am sure that the result will be unexpected.
Bitcoin can be seen as some kind of miracle, and I agree with you bitcoin just needs to continue to be bitcoin, popularity will continue to rise like until now. This drop is what some early adopters already experienced, its nothing new for this market, and in generally big drops happens on every market. I believe that bitcoin will continue to rise trough the years, it may not be like some people expect, but we will see, whole world will see, bitcoin is here to stay.
1065  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tell about Bitcoin gambling site and your opinion & experience on: December 11, 2018, 05:16:21 PM
There's nothing like "the best gambling site" because there are dice sites, poker sites, slots, and so on. I wouldn't call this or that one the best because somebody who doesn't play this particular game that the site is focused on will be disappointed. When it comes to dice, PD is probably the most popular and given as an industry example, but there are some very well made pretenders to the title, like yolodice. You'd have to specify what games you like and then make your choice.
I must add that every site, even with same games, have totally different gambling experience. They offer different loyalty program, they have different bonuses, they even have different promotions and jackpots on different games.
For example I dont count dice sites in casinos, in my opinion casinos must have more than one game in their offer, more games makes casino, in that games some live games for sure. I have nice experience with bitcoin casinos, starting with betcoin.ag, fortunejack, bitcasino, mbit. Some of them had or have poker, which is a nice thing, so there are good bitcoin casinos and they last for years.
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1066  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Warnings for token hodlers on: December 10, 2018, 07:39:41 AM
Now is a good time to buy the coins for a low price. But we must make sure that instead we need profit we suffer from loss. So for now, if you bought coin or token on the dip. Hold it temporarily in the exchange platform. And set a stop loss price if the possible dump happens.
Its all about getting in in the right moment, bottom is the best possible moment for entering. After bottom its about your character will you sell with first rise, or you will wait a bit longer for price to rise more and you can have more profit. What`s happened many times in cryptomarket is that some coins raised a lot in past few years, from cents to hundreds of dollars, can that happen again with some altcoins that are under 1$, I think it can, just carefully chose altcoins you will invest in.
1067  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling vs. "leveraged" trading on: December 10, 2018, 06:36:04 AM
I don’t think that “leveraged trading” is similar to gambling. No matter what type of trading it is, your decisions should always depend upon the knowledge about the market, implying that you need to understand and research the market carefully. Even for deciding the price of the coin in leveraged trading, you should really have some market knowledge but in gambling it entirely based on random guess and the result is based on your luck.

Yes, you are right. In leveraged trading, we should know how much profit we should take and don't greedy because this will makes you become a loss. I prefer with leveraged trading too although we don't have much knowledge about the coins as long as we can see the green colour in the status of the trading then it means, we can take the profit. I think it's easy to try in leveraged trading and the profit will be good for us.
In any kind of trading and gambling greediness can be a killer of your stash. Both are risky, both can be tricky as hell, and both can take your money away or earn you a lot of money. I will go with gambling, much easier, much less bothering, leverage trading require special skills, you need to be active a lot, you need to have accounts everywhere, basically you earn of fluctuations in exchange rates between two different countries, now you figure it out how to do it, with gambling you have much more fun and its much easier.
1068  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The key reason for gambling on: December 09, 2018, 03:04:04 PM
I want to try my luck, that's my vote. My philosophy in gambling is that it depends on luck entirely. You can win if you are good but you can win more if you are lucky on a certain moment because it is not everyday that you are lucky.
I voted too, but I`m sure that each of us here like to gamble for more than one reason, trying luck, spending free time, wishing for some profit, emotions that comes from winning and losing. I think combination of all this factors is why I like to gamble, and thats probably same for all other gamblers. Its never one things, its impossible to do something just cause of one thing, whether its gambling, or doing anything else interesting. Luck comes from trying, as long as you try you can get hit by luck, when you dont try you cant get lucky, its life.
1069  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Too many new Exchanges on: December 09, 2018, 10:13:10 AM
There are hundreds of exchanges and more to come. No wonder, cause it's a great way to earn money for developers. I agree, that the number of exchanges shouldn't be decreased. This is a sphere where competition is extremely needed. But strict regulations are also should be launched. Anyway, I'm not sure that we'll see any changes here soon. So make sure you trust your money to reliable exchanges.

Exchanges are evolving too. There are new exchanges that offer transaction fee mining. The innovation keeps on going even in the exchanges space!
Its just one of the signs that crypto market is growing, even thou prices are declining. Innovations are everywhere around in crytoworld, we here see it, but people outside see only the price, nothing is more important than price, its sad, but thats the world out there. Thats why I`m not worrying about this drop, its simply bad time for crypto, but we will recover. Technology will win in the long run, we passed trough much worst times I believe, we will survive this too.
1070  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I'm A Professional Trader, Here's My Strategy on: December 08, 2018, 07:58:55 AM
I like this thread, I had to give some merits too. I opened site too, its nice to see that someone is starting online school of trading. When I saw one of the headlines there Crypto Trading Basics: How To Use Support And Resistance Levels, I knew that this guy is talking something smart here. Many of traders doesn`t know basics, and this is a nice way for new people to learn something. I think people should read this and learn from this, never take anything for granted, use this site and words from op to learn something, practice it and later develop your own strategy that will work for you.
1071  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Game of Thrones - Who will rule? Odds and betting discussion [Odds updated!] on: December 08, 2018, 06:47:36 AM
After the release of the latest teaser trailer, the odds for who will rule in the end of the Game of Thrones is back to Jon Snow as the most favored then followed closely by Daenarys and Bran Stark. I reckon this might be another large win for the sportsbooks if the ruler is not one of those 3 which is very possible because of the unpredictability of the show.

It was a cryptic trailer and I guess the net is going wild decoding it, the wolf could mean Jons pet returning and for the dragons the long held theory there're more than three dragons. I would not place my money on either as Bran will most likely die in midway of the season, Daenarys will be killed too leaving Jon who's not interested in the iron throne. I feel Sansa and Tyrion shall resume their marriage as their alliance will make it easier for them to rule.
After trailer I`m sure more than ever that we are going to see a big surprise. In the clip fire and ice meets on half, maybe some new characters will appear and take the throne. In this serial every time when someone was favored to achieve something was killed, or that person died, thats why I doubt that Jon Snow can sit on the throne. I didn`t put my money on little Ben, but I can imagine that scenario, maybe I should put some money on him, that would be surprise in some way, and this serial is all about surprises.
1072  Economy / Economics / Re: Sick and tired of the cryptocurrency bullshit!!! on: December 07, 2018, 08:00:55 AM
If your sick and tired sold what you have now because it means you don't have patience and believe to what you are doing in crypto market. Many people in crypto that stay even the market is bearish or bullish. Patience is the key in any business there's a ups and downs not all are ups.
Yes, patience is the key because the market will not always increase, for those who are sick and disappointed with the crypto market today are those who only think to get money in an easy and fast way, even though we know that achieving success means we have to struggle with many obstacles head off.
Well we all know that most of people here before were because of quick profit chance from ICOs and even just from the price change. The hype was really booming before, and news about bitcoin and all other crypcurrencies price surge were everywhere.
He is sick and tired and he is here less than a month. Crytpomarket fluctuate for years, but last year top and this bottom now is what made people to be nervous a lot. They invested money in wrong time and now they blame the market for that. Its the same post like I have read years ago, people who bought on 1,200$ and price dropped to 100$ after that, they complained a lot back in the days, now at this price they are quiet, I presume that this people who cry now will be satisfied in few years if they manage to keep their coins in their possession.
1073  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler's mindset! on: December 07, 2018, 06:57:57 AM
Just learn self-control and you'll be alright, this is the main attitude that you need, don't be reckless and just play the game, gamble right away and whatever happens will happen, and if things don't go out right, just try out your luck next time instead of spending it all and going all-out.
Indeed it is very important to have good control over your emotions and your feelings as no one actually knows what will happen next. At the time of winning not good to be over confident and at the time of miner lose not good to lose your hope just be strong and play honestly. Gamblers should learn self control.

But most people will feel overconfident when they win, and it will affect them, so they think they have another luck in the next rounds. But if they have good control over their emotion, it will not happen, and they will stop the game and leave the places. I hope that all of us have power for our feeling so we can know when the time to end the game. Don't feel that we can have another luck in the gambling game because soon, we will lose the money.
Its something most people dont get, in gambling winning and losing can both be dangerous. You have a strategy but when you win you get overconfident as you say and you start to make wrong bets, much higher bets and that can put you back where you were or even drive you to zero. Same is with losing, too much losing can be annoying and that can drive you off your strategy.
With self-control you can minimize risks of falling into this stadiums, but they are always present in our minds. I think only with a lot of practice gambler can rise above this, and to always be focused on strategy.
1074  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🎲[BOUNTY] EOSJACKS - EOS Gaming Platform, Monthly Payout, EOS Prizes (~$600k)💰🚀 on: December 06, 2018, 09:09:58 PM
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1075  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency trading for beginners. on: December 06, 2018, 07:11:43 PM
Good explanation from an experienced traders and I really benefits from the explanation you have give here.  If we follow this step that you have giving and the advice we would will reduce the risk of enter the market at the wrong time, been trike to enter the market at the wrong price and over trade. I will add that op also need to updating his tradings' knowledge by practicing on how to trade from demo trade before putting really money.

If demo trade engine is available, always make sure to use that first. Many different exchanges have different spread limits. A demo trading account would expose you to all those hidden details that an exchange might make ambiguous for an inexperienced user to find.
As it is compulsory for a horse rider to practice what he has learnt in his theoretical lectures, same is the case with bitcoins trader when he is willing to join trading.

He must be learning enough about what and why of trading. Once learnt, he must be allowed in practical field to try whatever he had learnt. So definitely demo trade engines are best in this regard as they give you a computer picture of how everything work.
I think it's best to start with investing. Creation of a cryptographic portfolio helps to understand the market itself. In addition, investing helps to discipline itself, which is very important in trade. After 3 months you can start working on the trend on demo account.
This is purely my opinion, because I already have experience in trading another markets.
And prior to all this, I suggest and advice everyone who is coming to or willing to come in this world of bitcoins. Do go through about what you are going to invest in. you must be knowing before coming here that what you are supposed to do and what is your goal. How will you be making things happens to archive your goal. And for all this, basic knowledge about bitcoins is necessary.
I agree with you. It is advisable to start with this:
1. You must understand an technology blockchain;
2. You must believe in these technologies;
3. You must create your first crypto-portfolio for cold investment;
4. You need to understand the dynamics of the market and how it works;
5. And after that you can start to active trading.
Its the trick with number 2 that people not aware of it, if you believe in something you believe it will bounce back if you made a wrong trade. For that you need to believe in what you trading with, and sometimes to give it a bit more time to bounce back. The trick with trading is to not be greedy, everything can be learned, but if you are greedy you will wish more and that can ruin you.
About number 3, portfolio is something that everyone should have here. Fill it with coins and tokens and that`s for holding, not trading.
1076  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading as an entertainment thing on: December 05, 2018, 04:41:12 PM
There are a lot of companies calling me at least every 2 days to ask me if i am into trading and if not why not and why i don't and so on..

This is some joke, right? How the hell are they gonna email you if you do not have accounts on these exchange? how would that be possible? if you receive email from some exchange while you know that you do not have an account in that exchange, then you are receiving email from some scammer and you should not click on the link of the scammer.

Is there any kind of entertainment if doing online investments or trading?

search on google and read in this section you will get knowledge

When we hear a joke we laugh, this is not a joke, this is a stupidity, example of it. Anything can be entertainment, that depends from approach, and what someone think its fun and interesting, for someone its climbing on the mountain, for others its sitting on computer and watching numbers going up and down.
He can search google, but its better for him to go back to school and learn basics once again. Google can help people who knows what they want, who is lost will be lost forever, in real and digital world.
1077  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When to trade altcoins? on: December 05, 2018, 07:54:30 AM
Hello everyone. So recently I've been trading bitcoin for alt coins as I find that alt coins are far more volatile due to lower volume compared to Bitcoin and thus more profitable when it comes to day trading. Any great alt coins I should be looking into for trading? I'd like to hear your opinion on this method of trading!

As long you still get income any coins you take it will profitable. I think coins is the main problems because chose the wrong coin will make us lost. But I believe this part can't be separate with money management and psychology. So trading is big picture for us. People will chose survive coins, see from coinmarketcap list number 1 - 5, take them as your way.
What is wrong coin? The one without future, created to be a scam and to trick people to invest in it. Coins from 1-5 have potentially great future, so when is the right time to trade with them, answer is clear wait dip to buy and wait top to sell. You have buy support and sell resistance, learn about this two terms and you will have a bigger picture how to do it.
1078  Economy / Economics / Re: CryptoCurrencies around the GLOBE on: December 04, 2018, 05:20:31 PM
I recently discussed with some of my friends about blockchain technology and they are still skeptic about this technology. Sadly this skepticism is what majority of people in my county feel, and I think its same in most other countries, to say undeveloped countries. Last year we have seen that rise in popularity on global level, surge in price lead to that. Now after that rise we see the same thing that happened before, huge drop and skepticism among newbies in cryptocurrencies who bought on top. Cryptocurrencies are more popular, and people after some time learn a lot and have a new perspective, we need to wait new people and they to understand what we already know.
1079  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Matched betting (risk free) with bitcoins? on: December 04, 2018, 07:12:11 AM
Sportbet and nitrogen have nice promotions, free bets, I`m on their mailing list so they send me this offers all the time. Betting in bitcoins is progressing, they offer more and more every year, before and now cant be compared. There are other places where you can find nice offers, I`m not so fun of taking bonus for sports betting, when you say bonus I mean slots, roulette, or some other lucky based casino games. Check this two sites, they usually have free bets, free promo bets when some championship is starting and many other options, good luck my friends.
1080  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Prediction 2020 - 2021 on: December 03, 2018, 04:18:48 PM
2021 - Huh You know it
I know it, but judging by the comments on this forum and many news articles many people dont know nothing. They dont know nothing about this technology, they just watch the price and they think its all about the price and making profit.

https://twitter.com/Blackjincrypto/status/1068153840996835329

I will provide information where you will buy bitcoin later from the picture below, cheers

Buy support :

$6000
$4000
$2000

basically when we will touch buy support, if too many people panic will touch below it, you see it when buying support is at $ 4000 if too many people panic push down to $ 3500, so if later that happens touching support buy $ 2000 preparing to buy it's underneath


Good advice, but I think its for the people who have money to buy more times. Many people cant afford to buy support, its good strategy, people should follow it, but the ones with small stash dont care to learn about bankroll management, and to follow it with any amount of money.
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