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1141  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Flagging user broke an agreement and leaking confidential information on: June 25, 2019, 02:12:38 PM
However if you or anyone else does not support it specifically because who the OP is, or what line of business he is in, the trust system becomes entirely worthless
I wrote this a while ago:
Since the increase in DT-members, I've already noticed an increase in red tags. I can imagine a new user easily feels threatened, and I can also imagine many users don't mean bad. I'm not talking about the obvious and less obvious scammers that deserve red trust (and continue scamming with the next account), I'm talking about the "gray" cases in between.
I'd hate to see the supply of real new users dry up because of this. When someone isn't a clear scammer, don't they deserve the benefit of the doubt?

I'd like to add to this topic: before leaving feedback, ask yourself if your feedback makes the forum better, and (if applicable) is it worth destroying someone's reputation?
In this case, I don't think a tag or flag on bob123's account would make this forum a better place and I don't think it's worth destroying his account.
And this case doesn't make me feel like I would need a warning if I would do business with bob123.
I can’t imagine how anyone could argue that holding someone accountable for their promises would not make the forum a better place.

The argument I am hearing from you is that bob is a good poster therefore him breaking a promise should be excused. This will make the forum a much worse place because it sends a clear message that you have a license to scam others if you steal from an unpopular person.
1142  Economy / Reputation / Re: Got Negative Tag for Nothing done on: June 25, 2019, 01:47:10 PM
I excluded LFC over a week ago, and others should do the same.

In addition to being a spammer, he doesn’t understand, or care about the concept of having standards known in advance as to what is and is not acceptable behavior to avoid getting negative trust.
1143  Other / Meta / Re: Make Trust flags visible in all sections on: June 25, 2019, 12:02:37 AM
Bump. Here's a scammer who might get away with phishing newbies' wallets seeds seeing how some sections don't have warnings: https://archive.is/FRqgX
His english thread belongs in a marketplace sub, as he is offering a "service" of sending BTC to you after you give him your seed, even though it is a complete scam. The thread you linked is in a HYIP sub, which IMO should have the trust flags visible, as it is a marketplace sub.
1144  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you think Trump changed his mind over the strike on Iran? on: June 24, 2019, 11:40:42 PM
The US apparently launched a cyber attack against Iran at approximately the same time the air strikes were set to take place. The cyber strikes attacked some of Iran's radar equipment.

If the US is not 100% certain of the location of air defense assets in Iran are, disabling some of their defense capabilities, and giving the impression an attack is imminent, the US military may have hoped to learn where additional Iran military assets are located, and what type of equipment they have. This could reduce future American casualties if thing escalate further.

I think Trump wants other countries to pay for security in the straight of Hormuz, and perhaps send their own troops and military assets to go to war with Iran (if it comes to that), with the US playing a more minor role than it did in Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
1145  Economy / Reputation / Re: Indisputable Evidence of Corruption on: June 24, 2019, 11:04:31 PM
EDIT: the links have been edited several times. One of the originals was https://bit.ly/31RMJyx  the other https://www.shorturl.at/vDJP7
Both URLs, according to multiple URL expanders I used, redirect to "shorturl.at". The domain was registered on May 28, less than a month ago.

For anyone who thinks this is a funny joke, this kind of thing puts the user base at risk because people may not believe ACTUAL accusations when they happen.
I think this is the point.
1146  Economy / Reputation / Re: Flagging accounts which are up to sale [DT member actions needed] on: June 24, 2019, 09:16:10 PM
I don’t think he needs to prove his innocence. The OP needs to prove guilt. He can report the PMs to a moderator who can authenticate the PMs.

I don't know that Admins would take the time to authenticate the PM's. I would say OP showed their work on this just fine using the screenshot of the PM's they were able to receive in an attempt to prove availability of accounts for sale. That being said zackie has been shown a way to prove their claims that they were hacked didn't notice and then came back to see the tag. What more proof would you be looking for apart from the image showing received PM's? There are also chat logs to back them up.
It is trivial to fake a screenshot....they have been faked in the past few months.
1147  Economy / Reputation / Re: Flagging accounts which are up to sale [DT member actions needed] on: June 24, 2019, 08:58:13 PM
Another option is to reach out to the Cryptios team. They have access to some IP data for users and their accounts when they log in, to help with account recoveries or lock accounts that seem to be acting suspicious. Not sure if they will respond but that's the route I would go to clear my name in this situation.
I don’t think he needs to prove his innocence. The OP needs to prove guilt. He can report the PMs to a moderator who can authenticate the PMs.
1148  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Flag] Lutpin - Known Alt Donation funds. on: June 24, 2019, 06:18:38 PM
As to the remaining donation funds, I actually don't want any
Isn't this enough to make the whole flag worthless? If Timelord2067 refuses the money, he can't be a victim and thus can't create this flag.
Update: What suchmoon says in the next post makes sense Smiley Although it still doesn't make make Timelord2067 a victim.
If timelord doesn’t wish to receive any donations, he doesn’t have standing to create a flag because he has no damages. There is no basis for him to ask to manage the donation address.
1149  Other / Meta / Re: DDOS? on: June 24, 2019, 03:21:26 PM
I'm also having that issue before. It's probably caused by this Cloudflare route leak incident https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/46z55mdhg0t5. A lot of other websites affected by this too.
I wonder if traffic is being routed through China (again). This is what happened not long ago when some of the routing tables got messed up for a short time.
1150  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Flag] Lutpin - Known Alt Donation funds. on: June 24, 2019, 03:18:16 PM
I think it was pretty clear what the intention of the donation address was for.

Being that the thread has been closed for quite some time now, it is probably best to distribute the donations as per the terms of how he said they would be distributed.

At this time I am not supporting the flag.
1151  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Flagging user broke an agreement and leaking confidential information on: June 24, 2019, 06:13:07 AM
I don't see anywhere in which it was stipulated the accounts made high quality posts.
OP confirmed it:
he said that yes if the posts are high quality after he checked it he agree to it
I'd say that was part of the agreement.
(archived)
The OP did say this in this thread, however this was not actually mentioned in the OPs conversation with Bob. In the telegram chat, Bob stated that he wanted to be sure the OP actually owned the accounts he was selling. There was no mention of post quality prior to when Bob agreed to buy the "green trusted" account upon receiving a PM from it to confirm the OP actually owned it.

Also, the specific account in question was actually Ntrain2k[/quote], who has not been active very much after the merit system was implemented, however it does not appear to be farmed, and doesn't appear to have ever participated in any kind of signature (or similar) campaign.


if you are not supporting the flag, you are giving people an excuse to not honor their agreements with those who are unpopular.
First: there is no flag Tongue
Second: I am under no obligation to support any flag, and [url=http://loyce.club/trust/flags/personal/459836.html]I've been very conservative in supporting flags[/url].
Fair enough regarding being conservative as to which flags you support. However if you or anyone else does not support it specifically because who the OP is, or what line of business he is in, the trust system becomes entirely worthless (you can read my comments in this thread).
1152  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Flagging user broke an agreement and leaking confidential information on: June 24, 2019, 04:54:18 AM
Besides, bob didn't use his account for this, so the "warning" wouldn't help other account sellers. Just like account sellers who hide behind a Newbie account.
The flag (once created) would warn anyone considering to trade with Bob that he previously broke an agreement, and has not made the other person whole.
The accounts didn't make high quality posts OP, so bob didn't break your agreement.
I don't see anywhere in which it was stipulated the accounts made high quality posts.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190619113422/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155184.0 <-- OP's sales thread
http://archive.is/rlBTD <-- telegram conversation.

Anyone can create a flag, but I don't think you'll find support for it.
Unless you can explain why there was not a broken agreement (you say the accounts didn't make high quality posts, but this was not a term of the deal, implied or otherwise), if you are not supporting the flag, you are giving people an excuse to not honor their agreements with those who are unpopular.

If you say you are going to do something, you need to do it, and if you don't, you should be held accountable. There are no ifs, thans, or buts to this concept.
1153  Other / Meta / Re: Yobit spam on the forum on: June 24, 2019, 01:25:36 AM
-SNIP-
-SNIP-

With 17 negative feedbacks from DT members and a yellow flag, we shall see how many posts you can squeeze in before they boot you. Knowing how Yobit operates, you may last for quite some time.  Cheesy

It is curious that Quickseller supports the warning flag against YoBit exchange but wears it's signature at the same time.

Thank you for pointing this out to me.

I have re-reviewed the reference thread and relevant threads, and other information, and after consideration, have decided to remove the signature.
1154  Other / Meta / Re: Stop shameless bumps if you have nothing new to say on: June 24, 2019, 01:23:04 AM
What threads are you referring to?

If you are talking about the guide type threads, I would say it is almost certainly for merit. Although the OP may want visibility for their threads so others might respond.
1155  Other / Meta / Re: Who else agrees that self moderation of ANN threads shouldn't be possible? on: June 23, 2019, 11:58:14 PM
If the OPs suggestion were to get implemented, it seems a simple solution would be to prevent self moderated threads in either of these subs.
Even if it works out, won't be an ideal solution. If I had to start my own service/project, I'd want my thread to be self-moderated to avoid low quality, redundant, not-constructive comments. If someone thinks that I must have a shady project can always create a new thread and I'll be happy to respond there.

Having the restriction for newbie accounts is fine but not suitable for higher ranks.
If someone posts those types of posts, you can report the post as being low content, and it should be removed by a moderator. Perhaps a solution might be to disable the OP topics from being able to delete comments, but allow the OP to prevent certain ranks and users from being able to post in a topic.


There is an entire subforum designated for altcoin ANN threads, and another for service ANN threads. If an ANN thread is posted outside of these two subs, they should be moved by a moderator. If there is a thread that is not an ANN thread (except an “unmoderated” thread), it should be moved outside of these two subs.

If the OPs suggestion were to get implemented, it seems a simple solution would be to prevent self moderated threads in either of these subs.

I stand corrected. Last time I checked in depth people spammed their announcement threads everywhere they could to try to stay at the top of any page they could, including Altcoin Discussion. It looks like the section is cleaned up quite a bit, with ANN threads actually in the ANN section, so that would work reasonably well.
mprep has done a good job with the altcoin section, although there is a lot of activity there for one or two people to handle. I am fairly confident he uses one or more scripts to help him with his job. Possibly including one that automatically finds ANN threads posted outside of the appropriate subs.
1156  Other / Meta / Re: Who else agrees that self moderation of ANN threads shouldn't be possible? on: June 23, 2019, 11:29:56 PM


The forum cant differentiate between a thread with [ANN] in the title and one without. It can tell the difference between boards, and designate which self moderated threads are allowed in.
There is an entire subforum designated for altcoin ANN threads, and another for service ANN threads. If an ANN thread is posted outside of these two subs, they should be moved by a moderator. If there is a thread that is not an ANN thread (except an “unmoderated” thread), it should be moved outside of these two subs.

If the OPs suggestion were to get implemented, it seems a simple solution would be to prevent self moderated threads in either of these subs.
1157  Economy / Services / Re: Crypto Marketplace ~ Escrow Service ~ OTC ~ Discord Marketplace ~ on: June 23, 2019, 10:29:43 PM
I still don't understand why these people are trusting you in the first place. The discoed channel you run only purports to have ~500 members and does not appear to be especially active.

Your discord channel says it is about "FPGA" -- is your community primarily based outside of the crypto space?

Seriously, you don’t even know what fpgas are used for in crypto. You schill yobit and ur calling dream a well know escrow service a scam. Gtfo
FGPA mining for bitcoin has not been a thing for a long time now. Perhaps in altcoin mining, but I am not so sure.

The OPs escrow service is not well known to me, and is not well known to bitcointalk. Also, I did not call his service a scam, I was merely asking questions, although I believe that would not be an unreasonable conclusion.
1158  Economy / Services / Re: Crypto Marketplace ~ Escrow Service ~ OTC ~ Discord Marketplace ~ on: June 23, 2019, 10:00:45 PM
I still don't understand why these people are trusting you in the first place. The discoed channel you run only purports to have ~500 members and does not appear to be especially active.

Your discord channel says it is about "FPGA" -- is your community primarily based outside of the crypto space?
1159  Economy / Services / Re: Crypto Marketplace ~ Escrow Service ~ OTC ~ Discord Marketplace ~ on: June 23, 2019, 07:24:17 PM
I know that I've already made an ANN post over here for my services.

However, since I've posted that thread my escrow volume has grown quite a bit. To date, I've escrowed approximately 26+ BTC and 58+ETH (June 15th, 2019)
You can verify for yourself here: BTC Wallet ETH Wallet I also have a USDT Wallet.
Your account is 3 months old, and you have made 15 posts. Why would people be trusting you? and why should people trust you? I have not seen evidence of any kind of reputation outside the forum.

Further, I am fairly confident you are not running an escrow service out of your BTC address.

For example, in ecdc594262582c9573beab2ff99e619bfc585dfbd5d39d4a6dd6a2a4817ed929 you spent all of the bitcoin in your stated escrow address that contained 4 inputs received on 3 different days from what appear to be 4 different sources. Further, you do not appear to be taking your stated fees out of transactions you spend.
1160  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.S. Lawmaker Calls For Facebook To Pause Cryptocurrency Project on: June 23, 2019, 07:04:40 PM
I don't think she has any legal authority to force Facebook to stop developing Libra. She probably does have the authority to subpoena Facebook executives to testify before her committee.

I also don't think there is a basis for being concerned that Facebook has a lot of data on its users, when discussing Libra. Most of what Facebook has access to is irrelevant to Libra, and banks have access to much more relevant information about their customers, especially their long standing customers, and they have access to information contained in third party databases such as credit reporting agencies.

The concept of a stablecoin is also not new, and stablecoins have had mainstream acceptance in the crypto space for years now.

There are a lot of reasons to be concerned about Facebook, but IMO libra is not one of them.   
 
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