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1201  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: April 15, 2014, 04:56:49 PM
Why are you so excited - wasn't btc over 700 just a couple of months ago?

it reached over a 1000 but this means recovery is starting, that is why I am so excited Smiley

shouldn't we all be? Cheesy

not till it reach 700, and with a double rebounce,  isn't it stuck at 500 right now and not moving?
1202  Other / Off-topic / Re: [NSFW] THIS is hilarious! on: April 15, 2014, 04:54:31 PM
Although I think it's fake, it's a great post lol!
1203  Other / Off-topic / Re: Activity Score on: April 15, 2014, 04:52:38 PM
Excellent, respect
Uh, what? Wrong thread perhaps? Cheesy

nah

he's giving congratz to the original poster..

Which made the post like 7 month ago lol
1204  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: April 15, 2014, 04:50:02 PM
Why are you so excited - wasn't btc over 700 just a couple of months ago?

Didn't reach 1100$ a couple of month ago? old good days! they seem to far yet too close
1205  Other / Off-topic / Re: Mobile phones you ever used on: April 15, 2014, 04:47:47 PM
Oh god as a tech enthousiast I had a rich phone history

It's started with a Motorola in the 1999-2000 (which was similar to the nokia 6110) I don't remember the reference, then to a Motorola Startac
then to a Nokia 3210 (way more indestructible than the 3310 and it has some heft to it) to 3310 to a Samsung T100, to a Sagen Myx6 (my first real smartphone) to Nokia 6680 (which I still own to this day) to N71 to N73 to N95 to N96 and N97 (which I sold it right away ) and that was my farewell to Nokia, I got my self HTC Diamond, then the mighty HTC HD2 (best smartphone evar) Samsung galaxy S1 (many issues), HTC Desire HD (very reliable great built quality), Samsung Galaxy S2 (great smartphone), HTC One X, S3 (Samsung never again I gave your fair chance), HTC One M7 and will move to the M8 if i can manage to get some money, but right now I can't afford it.

I always try and compare phones before buying.
1206  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: April 15, 2014, 04:35:20 PM
bitcoin need to rise higher didn't BTCChina just released a mobile ATM app?
1207  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's your view on cannabis? on: April 15, 2014, 04:33:39 PM
bad for your health people should not do drugs, but again adults can do what they want

Living is bad for your health. That is a proven fact. To maintain perfect health you should drink only water, eat only healthy food. Keep yourself fit etc. This is the perfect life for you?

Doing drugs and drinking can make you do some stupid stuff, it's not only a danger for your self but you become dangerous to others
Also why should I pay taxes for someone who's poisoning himself with drugs, smoking .....and is most likely to get cancer or heart issues or some other expensive disease

Extensive use of hard drugs, alcohol or cigarettes can harm you but I never heard of cancer caused by cannabis. You should drink and smoke responsibly of course. Everything is for humans but you need some restraint. And you pay taxes anyway no matter what is happening Smiley

Smoking in general can give you lung cancer, and heart problems ect, the problem with Cannabis is that it is addictive and also harm nervous system and brain in the long term (like any drug) anything that can make you an addict is bad, some might not get addicted to it, which is good, a glass of wine at lunch is not bad for health the opposite, a bottle of vodka or two at night on the hand is another thing. again I'm not giving lessons to anyone like I said in my first comment, this is my take on the matter, I my self don't smoke or drink (and I've tried everything when I was a teen) but now nada and fine that way
.

The act of setting fire and breathing in smoke is what damages lungs, no matter what you burn. I love a big fat J but that's my choice, a lot of people now vaperise, cook & make drink out of cannabis. Hell, look up Dixie elixers and you can get lollipops, bottles of pop etc all containing cannabanoids. You see, a lot of people don't like smoking sontheres many alternatives now.

Smoking ganja is alsona cancer prevention and I'm yet to a see a case of a weed smoker getting cancer. I been smoking nearly everyday doing between 8th - 1/2 oz a day for... Fuck knows how long, getting on to a couple of decades now. I'm not your average Joe though, its almost a religion to me :-)

I also tried 'everything' whenni was younger as I dj'd, vj'd, organised illegal and legal raves around the country and traveled the world doing this stuff. Another way of seen how corrupt the whole thing is, never mind diamonds and gold from India, drgs from the continent etc etc.

But now no, I'm happy with my smoke and everything else I can just pass on. But I'll never forget my youth, I lived it to the maximum and saw some amazing and some super dark things. Many lessons learnt while having a wailing time :-)

Now its more somewhere quiet, no neibours and good food and weather. I couldn't do what I did back in my youth, mentally unjust don't have the energy and I know too much now. How it all works even down to the drugs themselves. I can tell the pharmacy more about what they stock than they know themselves! I know the war on drugs = war on life itself and there's no magic pill that everyone is desperate for. Our medicine today is crude and backwards compared to how it used to be. He Rothschild's have also infected the medical industry to the point of where we have lost all out natural healing abilities. We rely on sudo science which ultulimitly will kill us.

You know babies are injected with over 30 chemicals and heavy metals before they are 1 years old in so called 'deveolped countries' through immunisations. And you wonder why kids brains don't work properly!  Environment effects your DNA which in turn changes you! So to improve yourself you improve your environment. That means moving away from negative thinkers that bring your potential down. This could even be your so called best friends. Look up that liberty movement in new Hampshire in USA, that's an excellent project which brings the right people together to make stuff happen.

End of the day even heroin as its purpose, its one of if not the best painkiller we have! When pure its side effects are in noticeable to the average joe, doctors, lawyers, judges all do it, you just don't see the side effects of 'SCAG' because they have the good stuff. And who makes all the scaggy h out there? Look no further than your very own al-CIA-da where production in Afghanistan since 2009 as gone 6x since NATO went in there. Same with cokecaine from Columbia and same with meth anphetermine.  CIA are the biggest drug cartel in the world bar none! And theybonly deal in life/family destroying substances.

There's over a BILLION tryptimines that we know about but do not now how to create them yet. This is just tryptimines, the same goes for phycadellics, noopets, stimulants, represents etc etc. Literally TRILLIONS and more possibilities and we declare war on these things!  It's like he IRS trying to regulate btc as property, IMPOSSIBLE task!

Fuck the oligarchies and the bran dead sheep who can't think for themselves. Luckily most people (especially the younger generation) realise what a crock of shit the whole thing is. People are sick of war and care not for these fruit cakes passing the narrative of ww3.

Can we just roll up to ournso called leaders (maybe July 4th for 'Americans) and blow all there sociopathic heads off? I want dibs on the queen, Cameron or Osbourne! :-)


Bro you are definitly high, I made the effort to read your post twice and there are whole paragraphs that I coudn't understand, maybe If I smoke a small Petard I'll be enlightned and understand everything ^.^

But anyways, not smoking cannabis and consuming it in another form is still harmful to you, most hard drugs are not consumed via smoking yet still do devasting damage, some of them eat your skin from the inside out, like the Crocodile drug search out, some people are left with their bone exposed when they survive

damn it, I'v been reading about that shit..

I don't understand why one would even take the crocodile drug, it means you're going to die, it's only matter of time...

makes no sense why anyone would use it..

Same goes for almost every hard drug, yet people are stupid enough to use them as long as it doesn't kill them instantly they think they are invulnerable, like I mentioned earlier while taking Tchernobyl example, people thought they are fine or didn't gasp the size of the danger  they are facing, intel they are starting decaying a few days after that
1208  Other / Off-topic / Re: Father Let Son Die While He Played Online Games on: April 15, 2014, 04:28:23 PM
The guy has already issues, it's the gaming that kill, he is not a professional gamer yet he plays that much, when I was in the equivalent to grad school, I used to play some MMOs and was high ranked world wide, to achieve this and to keep doing well at school, I used and have a social life (at least go out on weekend) I used to sleep 4 to 10 hours a week, and obviously it wasn't good, I stopped doing sport, (I used to play rugby for school team and used to do weight lifting before ) and still to this day, and the only thing that saved from destroying my health is that I made a program to take at least a week break every month or so. One I got to engineering school I reduced the gaming time considerably to almost none

Speaking of death a semi Pro gamers died after consuming 5-6 might be even more, of energy drinks over the course of a day and he stayed up for 16 hours or so
1209  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: April 15, 2014, 04:18:25 PM
a question is not to ask about things right? there are other uses  of the question obviously!

Can you name a few?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question
Don't you agree ?

edit Sad lol 7 replies when I was writting that, comme on guys slow down a bit lol)
1210  Other / Off-topic / Re: What anitvirus/anti malmware program do you use? on: April 15, 2014, 04:15:55 PM
I'm wondering of what's the merit for companies to develop free antivirus firewall and what's not tho, I mean obviously they'll incentive it somewhere else but how when the majority of the users are using the free version, do they sell personal data ?
1211  Other / Off-topic / Re: For $1 million dollars would you? on: April 15, 2014, 04:08:51 PM
For me girlfriend not a problem a spouse is another story, I'm not married and when I'll consider marrying it will only be with someone special and after a long thought and cohabitation, girlfriend is replaceable at any time (even if it will make me angry to lose my girl to another guy it's still a million$ we are talking about) the million$ can be used to build a new life and having enough to invest in different business and help spread Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general

But of course let's set things, straight, the girl needs to agree to it and can have a fair share in this. Crimes should be punished
1212  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's your view on cannabis? on: April 15, 2014, 04:02:57 PM
bad for your health people should not do drugs, but again adults can do what they want

Living is bad for your health. That is a proven fact. To maintain perfect health you should drink only water, eat only healthy food. Keep yourself fit etc. This is the perfect life for you?

Doing drugs and drinking can make you do some stupid stuff, it's not only a danger for your self but you become dangerous to others
Also why should I pay taxes for someone who's poisoning himself with drugs, smoking .....and is most likely to get cancer or heart issues or some other expensive disease

Extensive use of hard drugs, alcohol or cigarettes can harm you but I never heard of cancer caused by cannabis. You should drink and smoke responsibly of course. Everything is for humans but you need some restraint. And you pay taxes anyway no matter what is happening Smiley

Smoking in general can give you lung cancer, and heart problems ect, the problem with Cannabis is that it is addictive and also harm nervous system and brain in the long term (like any drug) anything that can make you an addict is bad, some might not get addicted to it, which is good, a glass of wine at lunch is not bad for health the opposite, a bottle of vodka or two at night on the hand is another thing. again I'm not giving lessons to anyone like I said in my first comment, this is my take on the matter, I my self don't smoke or drink (and I've tried everything when I was a teen) but now nada and fine that way
.

The act of setting fire and breathing in smoke is what damages lungs, no matter what you burn. I love a big fat J but that's my choice, a lot of people now vaperise, cook & make drink out of cannabis. Hell, look up Dixie elixers and you can get lollipops, bottles of pop etc all containing cannabanoids. You see, a lot of people don't like smoking sontheres many alternatives now.

Smoking ganja is alsona cancer prevention and I'm yet to a see a case of a weed smoker getting cancer. I been smoking nearly everyday doing between 8th - 1/2 oz a day for... Fuck knows how long, getting on to a couple of decades now. I'm not your average Joe though, its almost a religion to me :-)

I also tried 'everything' whenni was younger as I dj'd, vj'd, organised illegal and legal raves around the country and traveled the world doing this stuff. Another way of seen how corrupt the whole thing is, never mind diamonds and gold from India, drgs from the continent etc etc.

But now no, I'm happy with my smoke and everything else I can just pass on. But I'll never forget my youth, I lived it to the maximum and saw some amazing and some super dark things. Many lessons learnt while having a wailing time :-)

Now its more somewhere quiet, no neibours and good food and weather. I couldn't do what I did back in my youth, mentally unjust don't have the energy and I know too much now. How it all works even down to the drugs themselves. I can tell the pharmacy more about what they stock than they know themselves! I know the war on drugs = war on life itself and there's no magic pill that everyone is desperate for. Our medicine today is crude and backwards compared to how it used to be. He Rothschild's have also infected the medical industry to the point of where we have lost all out natural healing abilities. We rely on sudo science which ultulimitly will kill us.

You know babies are injected with over 30 chemicals and heavy metals before they are 1 years old in so called 'deveolped countries' through immunisations. And you wonder why kids brains don't work properly!  Environment effects your DNA which in turn changes you! So to improve yourself you improve your environment. That means moving away from negative thinkers that bring your potential down. This could even be your so called best friends. Look up that liberty movement in new Hampshire in USA, that's an excellent project which brings the right people together to make stuff happen.

End of the day even heroin as its purpose, its one of if not the best painkiller we have! When pure its side effects are in noticeable to the average joe, doctors, lawyers, judges all do it, you just don't see the side effects of 'SCAG' because they have the good stuff. And who makes all the scaggy h out there? Look no further than your very own al-CIA-da where production in Afghanistan since 2009 as gone 6x since NATO went in there. Same with cokecaine from Columbia and same with meth anphetermine.  CIA are the biggest drug cartel in the world bar none! And theybonly deal in life/family destroying substances.

There's over a BILLION tryptimines that we know about but do not now how to create them yet. This is just tryptimines, the same goes for phycadellics, noopets, stimulants, represents etc etc. Literally TRILLIONS and more possibilities and we declare war on these things!  It's like he IRS trying to regulate btc as property, IMPOSSIBLE task!

Fuck the oligarchies and the bran dead sheep who can't think for themselves. Luckily most people (especially the younger generation) realise what a crock of shit the whole thing is. People are sick of war and care not for these fruit cakes passing the narrative of ww3.

Can we just roll up to ournso called leaders (maybe July 4th for 'Americans) and blow all there sociopathic heads off? I want dibs on the queen, Cameron or Osbourne! :-)

Bro you are definitly high, I made the effort to read your post twice and there are whole paragraphs that I coudn't understand, maybe If I smoke a small Petard I'll be enlightned and understand everything ^.^

But anyways, not smoking cannabis and consuming it in another form is still harmful to you, most hard drugs are not consumed via smoking yet still do devasting damage, some of them eat your skin from the inside out, like the Crocodile drug search it out, some people are left with their bone exposed when they survive
1213  Other / Off-topic / Re: What anitvirus/anti malmware program do you use? on: April 15, 2014, 03:48:26 PM
Windows security essentials (Active)
HitmanPro (semi active, scans everyday, and every reboots)
Malwarebyte (Passive scans almost everyday or a couple of days)
Also I have Norton Internet security full suite just in case but activated only if I'm tempted to try some stuff but again, if something really untrusworthy the best to do is to try it/use it in a sandbox/virtual PC / Partition whatever just not on your main PC

IMO you don't need an antivirus if you do the right things, such us not visiting untrustworthy websites, Downloading files especially without a signed source is a NO! and of course scanning every file before openning it on totalvirus and similar website is the thing to do if you have to download a file.

HitmanPro is great for privacy! killing those damn tracking cookies is nice, and also it hunts for those adware and low profile malware

Also another things, make sure your Routers and PC ports setting are well set, against incoming traffic and what's not

1214  Other / Off-topic / Re: xbox one or playstation 4? on: April 15, 2014, 03:38:27 PM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!

I don't think games like "The last of us" or "God of war" are a 7 yo games You can build a PC at the same price, that will be close in terms of performance (a 400$/€ PC won't perform better than a PS4) but the thing about consoles is exclusives, and if I were to buy a console it would be the PS4 as it can play games at full 1080p and with decent frame rates unlike the XBOne.

I'm a PC guy and I didn't own a console in almost a decade now, but that being said I still believe there is a market for consoles due to exclusives and game library.

With low level api that advantage consoles had over general purpose PCs is gone! So yes, I'm sorrybto say a £450 PC will crush a console. This I did say in my last... More lengthy post which you must have skipped. As I love tech and have done for decades I actually look beyhond what the msm says. I know the true horrors of the state of technology and its ugly and sad. for someone whonloves tech and as been dissapointed for 15 or so years bitcoin space is a fucking revalation! The excellerated growth that will come from this will make the industrial revolution look like childs play!

It's still not gone, Low API like Mantle and (maybe DX12)  is still far from the level of optimization consoles has, They are designed for game first and for most, in the other hand PC are PC to begin with.

A 450£ will be better in some cases than a PS4 while it will not in other the thing is the PS4 will have a more consistent experience and it will not "crush" as you claim also 450£ is way more than the PS4 price.

I can make a 450 system around a r9 280x easy. Absolutely abliterate the ps4. No bells or whistles but I can do it. 20 years in the industry though, should know my stuff.

I've had the unfortunate displeasure of using a xbone 1 and its shocking. So called killer title titan fall looks very little better than 360 titles. And compared to ps4 its a joke. At least ps4 made a gaming console! MS just needs die already! There just copyright IP trolls these days.

Ok I want to see you building a system at the same price as the PS4 with the same IOs (bluray reader and what's not) based on the 280x of course all components has to be new from trusted shops with warranties and not brought from black markets you have 400€/$ 350£ go ahead.

First, What idiot buys blu-rays in this day and age? The idiots that fell for 3D, that who! I have never put a cd/dvd drive in a computer for over a decade now! Jesus! I said 450 meaning ££££££ which is the price of the xbone1 not the PS4 which i did say would be the one i would chose if forced to choice a console (PS4). So please allow me the £450 and i will see what i can do....

FIRST ATTEMPT no seeing where i can save a bit here & there - Overclockers.oc.uk (£521 inc tax)

Powercolor Radeon R9 280X TurboDUO 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card                                      £221.99

AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6300 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail                      £79.99

MSI 970A-G46 AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard                                                               £57.95

Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX24C11T3K2/8X)                   £45.95

Toshiba (7K1000.D) 500GB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA050)  HDD                                      £35.99

EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR)   EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR)      £35.99

BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - White   BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - White                                               £29.99

                                                                                                                                         total         £423.20

                                                                                                                                          tax          £86.99

                                                                                                                                           G.TOTAL £521.94

With a little digging, Finding parts cheaper at different places you can easily get this down to £450. Hell, i don't use cases or pay tax so i'm well within my budget and nearly done it for £350 if you take them away! I said 280X a bit rashly but i stand by my point of it can be done with £450 INCLUDING tax, Im just not going waste my time working it out for you as i got much more productive stuff do with my time. If you want better other components remove the 280X for a 270X which is more than capable of smashing any game in still today and a Kaveri chip in and you will still be under £450 and have the extra ooomph from the kaveri APU graphics which work really well in Xfire tbh with 2133hz+ memory. Anything below that really hurts the APU's performance. Also notice i didnt use shitty parts like Swift power etc etc!

Peace


Not even close :
1-No windows copy included (if it is a gaming PC you are forced to use windows
2-No drives, (yes there are people like me who still buys Games in boxes and collector editions whenever I can) at least I own the copy of the game and can resell it or exchange it later on
3-You talk about your case as it is the general case of everyone, you don't pay tax ? good for you, so you can buy the PS4 without taxes as well in that case it does drive the price down.
4-I never talked about the XBOne, I always said PS4 and all my previous comment are there, also a console will most likely be sitting in the living room and I want to see someone putting a caseless pc in his living room under his TV, (some exception would want to do it) but I doubt anyone who want's to buy a console will consider anything like that, no to mention that he owns already a PC if he wants to buy a console and it doesn't go the other way around
5-Yup APU needs high speed memory that's way the PS4 is using very expensive unified 8GB GDDR5 memory

Of course you won't waste time working it out for me, not only you blow your own 450£ while lacking some important things, your 520£ is more 50% more expensive than the price of a PS4.
Also you are forgetting the whole point of consoles = Exclusives, the guy owns a pc for sure (who doesn't in this day and age) and wants a console for multimedia, and games and consoles has a larger library and games genre ( Coming from a PC gamer)

1. No, You dont need windows to play games and i dont support eugenicists (M$), And most people have a copy of windows already!
2. £5-£10 for a dvd drive then if you must!
3. I don't believe anyone should pay TAX as its theft, plain and simple. I avoid it at every step i possibly can
4. I DID! I said 450£ which is obviously the xbone and not the ps4 @ 350!
5. And?

as i said, Use a 270X and there you go, go buy yourself all the crud you want and its still under £450 and will play ANYTHING better than the PS4 (Quality wise)

Go pack your bags dude, I been building PC's for 25 years + and know whats possible.

1- This alone proves how wrong you are, MOST of PC games are Windows exclusive, Steam is starting to take steps towards linux based OS but games developers are NOT! And no not most of people owns a copy of windows (that they can install on whatever machine), since most people buys their PC, laptops with windows included with the machine (a copy bound to the device that you need to burn on Restoration disks, I mean seriously for someone that's been building PC for 25 years + and been on this domaine you should know this much at least) and if you say otherwise I invite you to prove it.

2-Yes I know it's dirt cheap and even a bluray reader cost no more 30 of your £ but that's not even the point, if you want to make a proper comparison you do it considering what you have on both sides, some brought PS3s and PS4 just for the bluray player to watch movies with the option to game of course

3-Your average joe has no choice but to buy with taxes as VAT unless they have a professional card, but that again goes both way if you want to buy you parts without VAT you can buy the console of your choice without Tax as well so this is not even an argument

4-And I never claimed the XBOne as a good console choice, I've already said that the PS4 is a good value for money compared to the XBOne which is underpowered yet more expensive than the PS4 (well yeah it includes kinect but again I prefer having the choice to buy that later if I'm interested than being forced to live with such a thing)

5-and lol switching from a 280x to a 270x is going to save you around 70£ at most that's not even the price of windows 8 copy from a store and a 270x + an FX6300 will not destroy a PS4 they'll have comparable graphics the PC might have better frame rates in same game (low profile game as the PS4 frame rates is locked to 60 or 30 in general)  but will suffer in games, it's here where console optimization comes in hand. and the console will last for 10 years a PC does not, you'll need to upgrade soon enough especially if it is a mid range PC, and another thing you are forgetting is that both consoles will rely on CLOUD COMPUTING to achieve better performance and better games overall especially when it comes to exclusives (this is one of the reasons, that Sony and MS decided to go for a cheap architecture rather than having going for a very expensive console that outperform current PCs in the short run and selling them at lost (for example the PS3 cost almost double of what Sony was selling it for at the time and it was ridiculously expensive at launch but it did outperform any PC at it price range and for a while)

There is not to back here dude, Not only you can't build a PC better than the PS4 at the same price (something you didn't even attempt to prove so far) you are still denying the whole point of a console, which is exclusive games ! the guy already owns a mid range PC (like the one you want him to build) if not a high end
1215  Other / Off-topic / Re: xbox one or playstation 4? on: April 15, 2014, 01:50:00 PM
Honestly, I think it will come down to the exclusives and what games you would like.

Right now Titanfall on Xbox One is sick nasty

Titanfall PC > XBOne Smiley
1216  Other / Off-topic / Re: xbox one or playstation 4? on: April 15, 2014, 01:49:07 PM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!

I don't think games like "The last of us" or "God of war" are a 7 yo games You can build a PC at the same price, that will be close in terms of performance (a 400$/€ PC won't perform better than a PS4) but the thing about consoles is exclusives, and if I were to buy a console it would be the PS4 as it can play games at full 1080p and with decent frame rates unlike the XBOne.

I'm a PC guy and I didn't own a console in almost a decade now, but that being said I still believe there is a market for consoles due to exclusives and game library.

With low level api that advantage consoles had over general purpose PCs is gone! So yes, I'm sorrybto say a £450 PC will crush a console. This I did say in my last... More lengthy post which you must have skipped. As I love tech and have done for decades I actually look beyhond what the msm says. I know the true horrors of the state of technology and its ugly and sad. for someone whonloves tech and as been dissapointed for 15 or so years bitcoin space is a fucking revalation! The excellerated growth that will come from this will make the industrial revolution look like childs play!

It's still not gone, Low API like Mantle and (maybe DX12)  is still far from the level of optimization consoles has, They are designed for game first and for most, in the other hand PC are PC to begin with.

A 450£ will be better in some cases than a PS4 while it will not in other the thing is the PS4 will have a more consistent experience and it will not "crush" as you claim also 450£ is way more than the PS4 price.

I can make a 450 system around a r9 280x easy. Absolutely abliterate the ps4. No bells or whistles but I can do it. 20 years in the industry though, should know my stuff.

I've had the unfortunate displeasure of using a xbone 1 and its shocking. So called killer title titan fall looks very little better than 360 titles. And compared to ps4 its a joke. At least ps4 made a gaming console! MS just needs die already! There just copyright IP trolls these days.

Ok I want to see you building a system at the same price as the PS4 with the same IOs (bluray reader and what's not) based on the 280x of course all components has to be new from trusted shops with warranties and not brought from black markets you have 400€/$ 350£ go ahead.

First, What idiot buys blu-rays in this day and age? The idiots that fell for 3D, that who! I have never put a cd/dvd drive in a computer for over a decade now! Jesus! I said 450 meaning ££££££ which is the price of the xbone1 not the PS4 which i did say would be the one i would chose if forced to choice a console (PS4). So please allow me the £450 and i will see what i can do....

FIRST ATTEMPT no seeing where i can save a bit here & there - Overclockers.oc.uk (£521 inc tax)

Powercolor Radeon R9 280X TurboDUO 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card                                      £221.99

AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6300 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail                      £79.99

MSI 970A-G46 AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard                                                               £57.95

Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX24C11T3K2/8X)                   £45.95

Toshiba (7K1000.D) 500GB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA050)  HDD                                      £35.99

EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR)   EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR)      £35.99

BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - White   BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - White                                               £29.99

                                                                                                                                         total         £423.20

                                                                                                                                          tax          £86.99

                                                                                                                                           G.TOTAL £521.94

With a little digging, Finding parts cheaper at different places you can easily get this down to £450. Hell, i don't use cases or pay tax so i'm well within my budget and nearly done it for £350 if you take them away! I said 280X a bit rashly but i stand by my point of it can be done with £450 INCLUDING tax, Im just not going waste my time working it out for you as i got much more productive stuff do with my time. If you want better other components remove the 280X for a 270X which is more than capable of smashing any game in still today and a Kaveri chip in and you will still be under £450 and have the extra ooomph from the kaveri APU graphics which work really well in Xfire tbh with 2133hz+ memory. Anything below that really hurts the APU's performance. Also notice i didnt use shitty parts like Swift power etc etc!

Peace


Not even close :
1-No windows copy included (if it is a gaming PC you are forced to use windows
2-No drives, (yes there are people like me who still buys Games in boxes and collector editions whenever I can) at least I own the copy of the game and can resell it or exchange it later on
3-You talk about your case as it is the general case of everyone, you don't pay tax ? good for you, so you can buy the PS4 without taxes as well in that case it does drive the price down.
4-I never talked about the XBOne, I always said PS4 and all my previous comment are there, also a console will most likely be sitting in the living room and I want to see someone putting a caseless pc in his living room under his TV, (some exception would want to do it) but I doubt anyone who want's to buy a console will consider anything like that, no to mention that he owns already a PC if he wants to buy a console and it doesn't go the other way around
5-Yup APU needs high speed memory that's way the PS4 is using very expensive unified 8GB GDDR5 memory

Of course you won't waste time working it out for me, not only you blow your own 450£ while lacking some important things, your 520£ is more 50% more expensive than the price of a PS4.
Also you are forgetting the whole point of consoles = Exclusives, the guy owns a pc for sure (who doesn't in this day and age) and wants a console for multimedia, and games and consoles has a larger library and games genre ( Coming from a PC gamer)
1217  Other / Off-topic / Re: quantum computing on: April 15, 2014, 09:13:38 AM
lol I thought Schroedinger cat was the reference here.
1218  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Goats are out of the pen. Where do we get our milk from now? on: April 15, 2014, 09:11:59 AM
no worries at first there will be like 200s for the signal to get trough, but that just till the Goat Quantum entanglement communication system is put in place, everything will be instantaneous, btw did you guys see the recent Nasa picture from Mars where they saw a beam of light? that's actually goat preparing his master plan, also goats can survive on Mars surface no problem, (and goats has even more talents look at goat similators)
1219  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: April 15, 2014, 09:06:25 AM
a question is not to ask about things right? there are other uses  of the question obviously!
1220  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's your view on cannabis? on: April 15, 2014, 08:59:07 AM
bad for your health people should not do drugs, but again adults can do what they want

Living is bad for your health. That is a proven fact. To maintain perfect health you should drink only water, eat only healthy food. Keep yourself fit etc. This is the perfect life for you?

Doing drugs and drinking can make you do some stupid stuff, it's not only a danger for your self but you become dangerous to others
Also why should I pay taxes for someone who's poisoning himself with drugs, smoking .....and is most likely to get cancer or heart issues or some other expensive disease

Extensive use of hard drugs, alcohol or cigarettes can harm you but I never heard of cancer caused by cannabis. You should drink and smoke responsibly of course. Everything is for humans but you need some restraint. And you pay taxes anyway no matter what is happening Smiley

Smoking in general can give you lung cancer, and heart problems ect, the problem with Cannabis is that it is addictive and also harm nervous system and brain in the long term (like any drug) anything that can make you an addict is bad, some might not get addicted to it, which is good, a glass of wine at lunch is not bad for health the opposite, a bottle of vodka or two at night on the hand is another thing. again I'm not giving lessons to anyone like I said in my first comment, this is my take on the matter, I my self don't smoke or drink (and I've tried everything when I was a teen) but now nada and fine that way
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