I try to see their side from the story too. Even if campaigns cause spam, the spamming itself is not done by the campaign managers, if you know what I mean. But I'm not trying to defend them either. The story is just not one-sided and indeed, they really could do A LOT more.

Nonetheless, if they would at least start reporting spam in their own bounty thread, or if they would actively clean up spam themselves, it could actually help them to gain some respect from the other members in the community and relieve the mods a bit.

Really man, just try to clean up one of the links that I posted in the OP. Reporting spam posts one by one. I can tell you, after 50 reports I started asking myself some serious existential questions... Poor mods...

Disclaimer: I do not claim that bounty managers are spammers!

So I've been spending the past few days cleaning up some bounty threads by reporting several messages as spam. ALL of them were accepted with a 100% accuracy rating. I am talking especially about these two types of posts:

1. "you are great sir you project i see great future go to moon you have my support".

These come mostly - but not always - from Newbies without Merit, or from the infamous 1 Merit Junior Members. No doubt some of these come from fake accounts, especially if their activity is 1.

2. Bounty campaign updates for campaigns that finished weeks and even MONTHS ago!

You've seen these things before, surely:


They are part of the bounty game, so I suppose we just have to live with them. But continuing to post these horrible things, while quoting themselves from the weeks before that, not only weeks but sometimes even MONTHS after the campaign has ended, can only mean two things: either you don't care enough about this forum and the campaign to just read the OP from time time. Or you're a robot.

Some examples are this (ended August 15th). Or this (ended July 31st). And this (ended 4 months ago, it's even marked in the thread's subject but people still post updates). Sigh...


Suddenly it occurred to me: what the heck am I doing? Cleaning up someone else's mess? My respect for the mods on this forum who have to try and keep these threads spam-free has only grown bigger... Sometimes they really must have the feeling the situation is hopeless...


I have nothing against bounty management or against bounties - heck, I am participating myself, so I would be a huge hypocrite if I would have a problem with them. Some managers really make the effort of adding "ENDED" to the subject thread, but that doesn't help against robots. I just think the amount of spam in the bounty threads could be seriously reduced - and the forum mods could be relieved from a serious part of the spam cleaning - if this responsibility would be delegated to the bounty managers. Same goes for translators of bounty threads.

My gentle suggestions:
1. Keep your threads self-moderated.
2. Clean up nonsense posts.
3. Clean up bounty updates once the campaign is over.
4. Close the thread as soon as all bounties have been distributed.

If the bounty managers were to take this responsibility, it could also create an indirect but nonetheless very important extra advantage: it could largely improve the quality of the bounty campaigns, and at the same time reduce the number of fake threads. Cause if you are responsible for keeping your thread clean from spammers and robots, you might think twice before opening yet another fake or spam airdrop or bounty thread.

If you've read some of my other posts, you'll already know that I don't like to impose rules. But bounty managers could for instance keep their thread self-moderated on a voluntary basis for anti-spam reasons. At the same time, it could also give their campaign and their management skill an extra credibility boost.

In a nutshell, bounty managers, forum mods, forum members and even crypto-project leaders and teams: everyone could profit from this!

We all hope so. A year ago, I thought this decentralized music project could be "da bomb", but right now I am far from sure. But that goes for many ICOs, of course...

Looks like there is FINALLY some (real) news on Twitter: https://twitter.com/voisecom/status/1042398160390430720.

Some development in their app project.

It doesn't seem to you like that, it IS like that. You pay a fee, you can participate in campaigns.

It still doesn't give you the right to shitpost though.

If the post that received Merit was actually spam, and gets deleted, you still get to keep your Merit.

Like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=2344030

Your Merited post was:

"I agree with you, your strategy sounds good and I am going to give it a try."

Sometimes you have to know when to keep your mouth shut.

edit : now that we have gotten rid of Newbie spammers, the new enemy will be the 1 Merit Jr. spammer...

Funny how these posts always seem to contain the words "I am not a bounty hunter, but...".

Jah. Wat is in godsnaam de zin van je post als het andere members niet helpt.  

You know what I am going to say, right? Syscoin yesterday, today and tomorrow. Strong team, development, support etc. It has been undervalued from the beginning and it still is.

Nope. It's just following BTC. Like all other altcoins do. It has been that way since forever, so I really have no idea why you are opening just another thread about ETH price speculation...

"Naar verluidt" is met dt. Zelfs het woordenboek van mijn smartphone weet dat.

Het is als opbouwende kritiek bedoeld hoor, maar aan dat soort amateurisme gaan goedbedoelde projecten als bitcoinbelgie tenonder. Een ernstige lezer geeft er na zoiets meteen de brui aan en komt nooit meer terug.

Ik ben er nochtans van overtuigd dat er een publiek is voor dit onderwerp (ook in het Nederlands).

Although not on topic, I could not leave your remark about politicians unmerited.  

Further on, the spamming, not only from bots but also from bounty obsessed members has become a real disease, just like a virus. I try to report as much spam and nonsense as possible but honestly: it's a lost case. There's an expression in Dutch which remains me of this forum, literally translated: mopping the floor while the water tap is open. Meaning your efforts are useless.

The most frustrating moments are when you're seriously trying to ask some questions or start a genuine discussion and those suckers just continue to reply to the OP without reading into anything. Actually, once you're on the second page of a thread, your efforts are in vain.

This Merit thing has become some kind of a new religion. Is Meritology.com still available?

edit: it is not.

I think most of us have their seatbelts on since January. 

Further on, there's certainly some kind of tiredness in the crypto market, coming from people who believed these coins would double their value on a daily basis. I don't think ETH is an exception compared to any other coins, on the contrary, I still consider its technology as its strength.

I am seriously looking for a solid explanation for the uncertainties of the last three-four months. In the beginning (January, February 2018) it was clearly provoked by government interventions (China, Korea, USA) but now it seems people are not surprised about those anymore. Look at how prices went up two weeks ago, even though the SEC had released a negative report.

Do you think the current decline is still provoked by panic sellers? Or rather, bored-out sellers who are tired of these on-going fluctuations, let's say indeed "weak hands".

Even so, there is no guarantee at all that prices will go up again, even when the (estimated) bottom has been reached. I suppose even weak hands are not so stupid to sell at 6000 and jump back in at 7000? And even of they were so stupid, I would be very careful to put trust in a value built on weak hands' stupidity.  

I'd say the bottom price is the lowest price possible for mining 1 coin.

I think this coin has quite some potential, taking in account its standard privacy features, building further on solid XMR standards. It's a bit of a shame that you're shilling it by talking about unrealistic and ridiculous returns. This project deserves better ambassadors.

It's the big question, I guess. Once people start accepting crypto in real life, how will it influence its value? And will it still be the usual suspects, BTC, LTC etc. which will be used?

Ja ik voeg er graag nog een nederige "dank je wel" aan toe aan de community, want als ik geen Merits had gekregen, kon ik er ook geen uitdelen.

We mogen onszelf ook nu en dan op de borst kloppen, want - al zijn de hoeveelheid threads hier beperkt - ze zijn allemaal behoorlijk hoffelijk, on-topic en spam-vrij.

Nou, we zijn intussen bijna twee weken verder en ik zie eerlijk gezegd niet waarover je spreekt als je onrust ziet. Ik vind zelfs dat de markt lang niet meer zo rustig en zelfs gestaag groeiend is geweest.