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1281  Bitcoin / Hardware / Cointerra insider investor comments on: August 31, 2013, 09:48:13 PM
Don't think this was mentioned here or if it was, I think it was buried under a landslide of mud.

I found this alleged Cointerra investor's comments interesting and found an explanation as to why there's no Cointerra IIs or IIIs available for preorder yet. Regardless of their CT IV price point or product launch so far, I thought he has some interesting insights and opinions.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1l0plk/an_insiders_take_on_cointerra_the_bitcoin_mining/

What do you make of his assertion that there's no CT II or III because of the additional complexity involved?

Seems to me that they didn't design any modularity that would allow *any* downward mobility availability in their initial design specs. Which I, as a fellow prototype IT hardware designer who's worked on or in support of advanced technologies at low TRL levels for about 10 years, would consider to be poor planning.

I seriously think they've hurt their pre-order sales by not having a low end or even mid range option available at the get go. I'd say pre-sales have been underwhelming so far from these cheap seats. I'd love for them to change some opinions with new offerings & better price points.
1282  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BitSyncom Im still waithing on batch 1 order how is that possible on: August 31, 2013, 08:51:08 PM
As I'm sure you've tried to email or PM him multiple times, if I had to guess I think he just does a delete all on his inbox or just a cursory glance at it.

I'd love for him to dispute this. He *still* owes this community some better explanations then a John Woo movie plot (and I don't even have any Avalons on order & I still care). Some ref. designs being released don't exactly placate the masses waiting for their Av rigs.
1283  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: August 31, 2013, 08:46:28 PM
Holy crap an AR LARP where you send them real BTC for fictictious useless titles? Dafaq did I just read?

How can one sign up as an "affiliate" for such as a service?  Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Tongue
1284  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The $1000 Bitcoin, yes it's worth at least that. on: August 31, 2013, 08:35:26 PM
Which is a 60% greater chance? BTC at oh $5 or BTC at $1K in 2014-2015?  Huh

As a network engineer and an amateur futurist I think we'll see someone or some group ship low cost, self-powered pop up mesh networks by then as Moore's Law continues to take effect on IT hardware costs & demand for high speed wireless in non-traditional areas surges all over the world. I'll let you imagine a worldwide invisible mesh network that is best utilized via a non-centralized crytocurrency or set of cryptocurrencies (to the point where spell checkers quit flagging both of these terms!)

Nice find BTW! Way to mine the archives.  Grin
1285  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Businesses and Developers, Let's Get Started! on: August 31, 2013, 07:37:40 PM
Hi,

I'm setting up a Group Buy Escrow Coordinator Service called DZ's GBEC Services hosted on this forum.

I help pre-plan, coordinate, and expedite escrowed and non-escrowed Group Buys of ASIC miner hardware pre-orders (which also includes cases, fans, PSUs). I serve as an advocate for both Group Buyers and Sellers and am an escrow affiliate at BTCrow where I can set up semi-automated Escrowed Group Buy share sells via a 2% markup for my services (with 3rd party refund and up to 120 days post-sales dispute resolution). I am attempting to set up a mesh network of vetted GBECs for speed and redundancy.

I also offer the world's cheapest Bitcoin Miner Hosting at only 2.5%, via a mesh network of vetted Bitcoin Miners with some of the world's cheapest power and bandwidth with advertising listed both here and on ebay.

Please see the first link in my sig for more details!

Mahalo!
DZ
1286  Other / Beginners & Help / Interested in Bitcoin Mining? Logic of a Group Buy & Escrow Protection on: August 31, 2013, 07:27:33 PM
Hi,

My name is DyslexicZombei, DZ for short, a Group Buy Escrow Coordinator that serves the Group Buys forum.

I apologize to the mods if this is the wrong section but I *think* this is the right section because this entire forum can be overwhelming to newbies and there's so many ways to get scammed or defrauded.

If you're interested in Bitcoin mining, one way that many miners have hedged their bets is by investing in various Group Buys to spread their bets among strong bets and by also seeking escrow protection when dealing with a new Group Buy Coordinator.

Since many of you may not be aware: the very best values [as far as $ or BTC per GH/s ] only exist at the high end; the most expensive miners in other words, which are out of reach for most buyers. By banding together, miners can *cooperate* and get access to the best tech, the best values, *and* make some friends while doing it. When dealing with a new Group Buy Coordinator they can safely cooperate via an escrow service:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274722.0

Please see my sig for more of my services, which also include ultra low cost Bitcoin Miner Hosting at only 2.5%.

More about me:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280412.msg2997858#msg2997858
Here's why you should trust me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276947.msg2956448#msg2956448
Here's my endorsements: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280412.msg2997877#msg2997877

Newbies please feel free to PM me for questions! Don't worry: I don't mind because there's really no stupid questions when it comes to BTC and ASIC pre-orders.

Aloha!
DZ
1287  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Satoshi proposed a gentlemans agreement to postpone GPU mining (2009) on: August 31, 2013, 07:18:30 PM

The average total coins generated across the network per day stays the same.  Faster machines just get a larger share than slower machines.  If everyone bought faster machines, they wouldn't get more coins than before.

We should have a gentleman's agreement

no place for gentleman in btc world, unfortunately


the only thing that will stop the asic race is the worst: a constant hard drop of btc value

I'm sorry. I beg to differ. I may not be a gentleman but I *try* to be a gentleman with anyone I'm dealing with whether it's in the BTC world or not.

This culture is so nascent, that there's still room for civility to take root - at least among well intentioned miners & speculators - while taking calculated risks.
1288  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [HOWTO] flash your jalapeno to 8+ ghs on: August 31, 2013, 06:53:37 PM
Yikes! I can tell you from experience that once the magic smoke comes out mysterious little boxes with blinking lights, they no longer tend to work.  Sad

I'm sorry you seem to have bricked your unit.
1289  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Cointerra 2TH/s Miner on: August 31, 2013, 08:02:55 AM
voxelot doth speak some wisdom in the fact that: it's better to succeed together then to fail separately; esp. as a newcomer. Then again: I am biased as I am representing bobsag3 who is a vetted Group Buy Coordinator and the top Bitcoin Miner Host in my index at the moment. He's thought about how to run these in a professional manner. He's serious enough that he's close to setting up his own dedicated building for hosting with a 120A backup generator. Oh and voxelot is close to also being a vetted miner host in my matchmaking services as well. Smiley

Hi Norman,

Would you happen to work at Ceridian in Atlanta? If you can send me proof to this effect [clear photo of Govt. ID and clear photo with you holding ID] and agree to send me a duplicate message through this forum *and* LinkedIn, then I may be willing to vet you as a Group Buy Coordinator on behalf of the forum (basically stick my ass out on the line for you). I will treat your credentials with confidentiality as many of the co-op members and clients of my GBEC services I work for can confirm.

You're probably wondering whoTF are you and why do you want my ID to "help" me?

Well, as a relative newbie (I had a bit more exp. on this forum & Reddit afore this I could point to) I've pulled off what you're trying to pull off & I realized that I came up with a decent template for anyone that's *serious* about breaking into this insular GB forum. One of the problems of trying to set up a GB like this is: "who controls the BTC?" "Where is this miner shipping to?" You need to break down barriers to distrust over things like this to succeed.

Here's why you should trust me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276947.msg2956448#msg2956448
Here's my endorsements: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280412.msg2997877#msg2997877

This is how you show you're serious and how you introduce yourself to an insular, wary market that's been burned before by evil scammers that just took off with the BTC. That's why we expect new Group Buy Coordinators to set up with an Escrow Service first. Even better: put some BTC down as collateral for your Good Behavior (the BTC equiv. of a "Surety Bond") and pay your escrow service or escrow coordinator up front to put some skin in the game via a BTC Escrow Depository so that people *know* that you're serious and that you have money/BTC to lose if you screw it up.

Here's the GB I mentioned, my first real GB attempt, where I did everything I mentioned above: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274055.0

I'm this forum's first Group Buys Escrow Coordinator (GBEC) and Miner Host Matchmaking Service. I'm an advocate for both Group Buyers *and* Sellers. I expedite orders and help organize escrowed Group Buy shares, if needed. I'm also a tireless advocate for those scammed or defrauded. I *love* squashing cockroaches or at least help to squash 'em. I'm actually trying to set up a mesh network of vetted GBECs so that it's not dependent on just 1 or 2 people.

I'm also an escrow *affiliate* that has worked out an arrangement with BTCrow so that I can can set up semi-automated Escrow protected Group Buy shares for a very low fee and refund availability; which means the buyer has more controls about *when* the BTC is finally released *and* also has post-sales dispute resolution via a neutral 3rd party that will side with the one(s) with the strongest evidence (up to 120 days in some cases).

So, yes you can break into this market if you're legit, willing to listen to the needs of the Group Buyers and, oh I dunno, maybe ask for advice from someone that's done it.  Cheesy  Wink

Sorry to hijack your thread, and please don't take it personal, but I can't help but be brutally honest even if one is my own client or not. Anyway, I can vet you for free if you're interested, because we need more people like you - if you are who you say you are - if the Bitcoin economy is ever going to really break out. I can also help preplan your Group Buy for 0.1% BTC of the proposed Group Buy and vet you simultaneously if you're interested. Just PM me if you want more of my input.

TL;DR: No other service on this forum or elsewhere exists to help new, legitimate folks such as yourself overcome the obstacles necessary to a successful first Group Buy. Doesn't mean you'll succeed but I'll help improve your odds.

If you're legit: "Welcome!" If you're a scammer: "Don't let the door hit you on the way out."  Undecided
1290  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: VER 2.0, Introducing DZ Escrow *Coordinator* Services for Group Buyers & Sellers on: August 30, 2013, 08:45:04 AM
Thank you to my first two clients as Group Buy Coordinators! I wish you both well & thank you for working with me.

Also, a big thank you to my first group of vetted miner hosts! Let's bring down the price of miner hosting and make a little BTC by helping others.

Please PM me if you're interested in being a GBC, a vetted miner host, or if you're looking for the world's lowest cost, high quality miner hosting.
1291  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED / GROUP BUY] HASHFAST(BATCH1) 1.55 BTC for 10GH, JOHN K. ESCROW, MAHALO! on: August 30, 2013, 03:19:29 AM
Hi voxelot,

Thank you for your comments and for asking to join the co-op I call: "The little co-op that could." IMHO it takes an enlightened (or at least semi-enlightened) man to publicly admit that he's wrong.

About setting up a new one: you and possibly Sam may want to think about teaming up with bobsag3. I think it's more important to succeed together and let everyone take the credit then to fail separately to acquire a Batch1 pre-order on a HashFast (if that's the sort of blinking hardware you find to be sexy) before they run out. But hey, everyone has free will which I think is a wonderful thing.

Another thing to consider: CoinTerra is *supposed* release a 1TH miner to allay the grumblings of the filthy masses.  Cheesy In which case: BeepBeep2 would be the one you'd want to join up with. As a GBEC I don't find their MPP as attractive as HashFast's but at least there is one, which is a step forward for the ASIC mfg. community.

===

An Order Update from John S.:

Re: Emails sent re: Order 991
« Sent to: DyslexicZombei  on: August 29, 2013, 07:19:55 PM »

« You have forwarded or responded to this message. »
 Reply with quoteQuote ReplyReply Remove this messageDelete  

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi DyslexicZombei,

We will preserve your place in line.

Today, Mt Gox Weighted Avg: $129.36422

To complete this order today, please send 44.8655741 BTC to the address below

(Calculation:  5804.00 / 129.36422 = 44.8655741)

Address to send:
1NawHvHnYy1VUqwch8GRdGgXhdanjmLpmk

Please let us know when you have sent the BTC.

Cheers,
John
"

To which I sent him the Blockchain transaction for the buy we already made, LOL! I then proceeded to remind him that I thought they owed me 1.861 BTC as a refund & that he's not my proctologist...ok, ok so I added that last part. So good news! We didn't lose our place in the outbound shipment from 10 days ago!

===========================================================================================


REMINDER: Don't forget to vote! Voting starts at 9PM HST, which is about 3.5 hours from now, and will run for FOUR days.

PRO VS. AMATEUR HOSTING

PRO
- They're...uh pros with an IT background
- Least chance of theft or unintentional damage
- Automatically insured
- They cost more
- They care but they don't really care (not their BTC)
- Unless you pay an arm/leg, they have network outages in normal situations and power outages in long emergencies just like everyone else. Don't believe that BS about 99.99+% uptime
- May need to scramble to find a place that does colocation of mid towers which are awkward fits in most server rooms. You have to use the "platform" method which many DCs don't have set up for this purpose; (warned them about it...grumble...grumble)

AMATEUR
- They're amateurs
- Then again it's like hosting: a mid tower in your house because it's looks like & smells like a mid tower PC (Aren't you glad we didn't step in it?). Towers are already in many people's houses.
- They cost less but what do you care? Your hosting/management fee's a flat 2.75%
- Fastest response IMO (esp. w/ backup hardware. Thx Phillip!) because it's *their* BTC that's being lost out on
- Need to be vetted & have security/insurance in place for losses/theft
- There's a trust factor: How do we know they won't run off with the miner? (By vetting obviously and public meet ups, if possible)


Hope that summed up the pros/cons of both. Please feel free to add your own concerns.  If you don't vote, I'll just assume you don't care.

And you know what they say about assuming? It makes an ass out of you and the Ming Dynasty.
1292  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] HashFast Group Buy #1 + Hosting on: August 29, 2013, 06:54:02 PM
Hello all,

DyslexicZombei here. I'm your forum's first Group Buy Escrow Coordinator (GBEC) & Miner Host Matchmaking service (Please see sig for details).

I am a Group Buys forum advocate that assists both Group Buyers and Sellers to coordinate and expedite their Group Buys with optional Escrow Coordination service. I can attest that user bobsag has completed my miner host vetting process and I have agreed to help coordinate and assist in his Group Buy. He appears to be an asset to the Group Buys community and a well intentioned Group Buy Coordinator (GBC) / Miner Host. I can also confirm that his real ID/address are known to me, if necessary, for legal investigations.

He has experience with Bitcoin mining having run and sold several AM Blades (which as many know: can be finicky).

Miner Host Matchmaking: As a service to him in exchange for being a top vetted miner host in my Matchmaking service I am reducing my share of the miner host management fees from the usual 0.5% to 0.25% for the purposes of this Group Buy.

Escrowed shares (Optional): If you would like the protection of purchasing escrowed shares for this Group Buy or any other esrcrowed or non-escrowed Group Buy, via BTCrow at a 2% total fee, please PM me for details. There is a non-refundable 1% fee held by BTCrow for services rendered in the event a Group Buy share refund is sought (other refund fees from the GBC & GBEC may apply).

My public signature is below. Please do not accept any Group Buy confirmations from user DyslexicZombei without my attached public signature which can be decrypted for security purposes. Caveat emptor: There are no BTC surety bonds in place at the moment, and one must be arranged if this condition is made a necessity to the success of this Group Buy.


Please PM bobsag or DyslexicZombei for questions.

Aloha!
DZ

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1293  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED / GROUP BUY] HASHFAST(BATCH1) 1.55 BTC for 10GH, JOHN K. ESCROW, MAHALO! on: August 29, 2013, 08:54:42 AM
Thanks for the suggestion & for the sentiment milkbottlec! I'll PM everyone with the Dropbox link to keep it private. One little stumbling block before I send it out: I finished the spreadsheet but I'm short two wallet addresses. I sent PMs to 2 people that had unsigned transactions. I want to make sure I have the right address for these 2 gentlemen so I hopefully don't have to send this spreadsheet out again until the first miner payout. Smiley

To these 2 gentlemen: Can you please check your PMs to confirm your wallet address? Thanks!

Also, regardless of who hosts the miner whether it's a pro or amateur colo site: please PM me if you want me to advertise and manage miner hosting services for you with 2% hosting fees and 0.5% management fee. I put up my first listing on ebay this evening on behalf of vetted miner hosts in my new index:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.X++Have+one+to+sell%3F+Sell+it+yourself+ASIC+Bitcoin+Miner+Hosting+Service.+World%27&_nkw=++Have+one+to+sell%3F+Sell+it+yourself+ASIC+Bitcoin+Miner+Hosting+Service.+World%27s+lowest+miner+hosting+fees%3AOnly+2.5%25!&_sacat=0&_from=R40
1294  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED / GROUP BUY] HASHFAST(BATCH1) 1.55 BTC for 10GH, JOHN K. ESCROW, MAHALO! on: August 29, 2013, 04:16:53 AM
Thanks again for the offers gentlemen. My brother also happens to be a Police Lt. in the same state as bobsag.

Bob's fortunate to live near some very cheap bandwidth & power & I do have potential buyers outside of our co-op eyeing Bob's 2.5% quoted rate and vetted background as very compelling. His rates make KnC's $350 a month seem pretty darn expensive now.

I've offered to market his services (and anyone else with similar situations, please PM me) via ebay using my gift for gab. hehe.

3 things to update:

1..we have a confirmed new member for 2 shares.

Thank you and welcome aboard!

The user's name is mazza. They may or may not stop by to say hello but they've been welcomed to the co-op. I'll post a public link to the Dropbox spreadsheet of updated ownership shares and payout address later tonight; you won't need the app or need to sign up for a svc. to access it. Please confirm that your wallet address is correct in this "official" spreadsheet.

2. Tomorrow night at 9PM I'd like to open up voting for our first major decision. The vote is:

Pro Vs. Amateur Colocation of our HashFast Baby Jet.

You can vote publicly or privately and voting will be open for 96 hours (4 days). You can post your concerns publicly if you'd like. Hopefully, that'll give everyone enough time to think about it because we need to start nailing down pro host sites and getting a bunch of quotes if we go that route.

3. I heard back from HashFast. There was a shortage in the transaction! 1.861 BTC somehow got waylaid & just never made it there! With that receipt we had I wrongly assumed we were all paid up since 58.75BTC sounds like $5600+200S+H esp. since BTC has been over $100 for awhile. That was right about the time they were adjusting their currency rates. They're catching up with manual transactions and were asking for the rest earlier today! My email to them a few hours ago:

Hi,

I don't understand what happened: Here's the blockchain transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/3d21778226e34c06e582f42eef755591df0eb666977baad489739423e3a85e45

I also received this invoice which I thought completed the transaction:

http://s286.photobucket.com/user/SurfSkateKauai/media/HashFastBJInvoice-8-18-2013.png.html?sort=3&o=3

So are you saying we still owe ~1.6BTC to complete the order?
I think something didn't complete on Blockchain for the remaining balance.

XXXXXXXXX / DZ


Anyway, I paid the rest but I feel like I just got shaken down for an additional $200.  Angry

We're still in Batch 1 but our placement is now in question due to a 4.72% shortfall. I hope for the sake of my future dealings with them that they honor our original payment date. I'll be talking to John S. on our behalf if they don't, because that's not right. I may also approach Blockchain for some sort of compensation if we end up losing our place in the queue. Just thought you guys should know why it wasn't publicly listed yet.
1295  Economy / Services / Group Buy Escrow *Coordination Services + Low $ Miner Host matchmaking Services on: August 28, 2013, 08:25:15 AM
Hi,

I'd like to announce my new Group Buy Escrow Coordinator Services for the Group Buys forum. I apologize for the construction dust but all the services are outlined. Highlights below:

1. I help new and relatively new Group Buy Coordinators and help them plan their Group Buy - whether its pre-order miners, or wholesale cases, chips, fans, CPUs, or motherboards. Group shares sell via automated escrow via BTCrow with 3rd party manual dispute resolution by BTCrow. The service for this is 1% of the proposed Group Buy paid up front by the GB Coordinator. If you would like world class coaching /mentoring prior to your Group Buy launch there's an additional 0.1% fee paid up front.

My coordinator services *sell* escrow protected shares for you via BTCrow. Once I'm contacted by a Group Buyer, I set up a transaction just for them with the funds held by BTCrow. When the Group Buy is full, each purchaser releases their funds manually for immediate payment of a previously set up pre-order to a group approved hosting location.

Refunds available and shares returned at 1.5% restock fee (1% of this 1.5% is held by BTCrow for services already rendered) if Group Buy fails.

2. I also offer Matchmaking services for the world's cheapest miner hosts featuring super cheap power and pre-installed AC & security. All inclusive hosting + management fees are currently only 2.5% for a short time! [See post 6 for ultra low cost host matchmaking services].

I have a number of vetted miner hosts in my index so I can also provide you redundancy if something goes wrong with a primary site (reconstruction of host site or relocation of host, for example) and you need to move to a different miner host in a hurry. No other miner host service can boast this level of redundancy.

You're also not going to get a better miner host deal anywhere else IMHO.

I'm currently a Group Buy Coordinator for a HashFast Baby Jet (see sig) but I'm branching out to help all Group Buyers and Sellers. I've won a number of Bitcoin Talk user endorsements (5 so far) from this Group Buy.

3. I'm also taking applications for Group Buy Escrow *Coordinators* where you keep all your fees from transactions you coordinate.

Please PM me for any one of these areas of opportunity or for questions about my services.
 
About me: I've had my ID personally vetted by John K. and already have several clients for these services as well as a number of satisfied clients from my HashFast Group Buy Coordinator experience. 2 members: BeepBeep2 and jungle_dave also know the exact address of my workplace and can also corroborate my professional background.

I'm a former Sr. Electronics Technician of a rocket test facility (see sig for proof) and a current IT Network Engineer of a world class R&D lab. I run a small HashFast miner co-op and hope to set up a self-sustaining Group Buy Escrow Coordinator *Cooperative* that serves both Group Buyers *and* Sellers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280412.0

Aloha!
DZ
1296  Economy / Service Announcements / [ANN] Group Buy Escrow Coordinator Services / Matchmaking: Miner Hosts + Buyers on: August 28, 2013, 08:15:02 AM
Hi,

I'd like to announce my new Group Buy Escrow Coordinator Services for the Group Buys forum. I apologize for the construction dust but all the services are outlined. Highlights below:

1. I help new and relatively new Group Buy Coordinators and help them plan their Group Buy - whether its pre-order miners, or wholes cases, chips, fans, CPUs, or motherboards. Group shares sell via automated escrow via BTCrow with 3rd party manual dispute resolution by BTCrow. The service for this is 2%. If you would like world class coaching /mentoring prior to your Group Buy launch there's an additional 0.1% fee.

2. I also offer Matchmaking services for the world's cheapest miner hosts featuring super cheap power and pre-installed AC & security. All inclusive hosting + management fees are currently only 2.5% for a short time! [See post 6 for ultra low cost host matchmaking services]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280412.0

I'm currently a Group Buy Coordinator for a HashFast Baby Jet (see sig) but I'm branching out to help all Group Buyers and Sellers. I've won a number of Bitcoin Talk user endorsements (5 so far) from this Group Buy.

3. I'm also taking applications for Group Buy Escrow Coordinators where you keep all your fees from transactions you coordinate. Please PM me for any one of these areas of opportunity. I've had my ID personally vetted by John K. and already have several clients for this service.

Cheers!
DZ
1297  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED / GROUP BUY] HASHFAST(BATCH1) 1.55 BTC for 10GH, JOHN K. ESCROW, MAHALO! on: August 28, 2013, 05:18:54 AM
Thanks for the offer kaz911! I think we're going to stick to US sites because the shipping time is going to hurt us. By my count that's 2 EEs and 2 Network Engineers in the co-op that I know of so far.

Thanks for the offer Phillip! I appreciate the offer of a meet up between 2 co-op members. Would you be willing to be a 3rd admin regardless of where it's hosted and a local backup to firsttimeuser if it's hosted in Staten Island?

firsttimeuser was also able to offer this in response to one of my questions:

"3. Are you willing to pay for a security system since you will be responsible for expensive equipment?
A. Security guard sitting at the entrance in our building 24/7 also 24/7 video recording.
"

I also discussed how to insure it as home/renters insurance since he is a part owner of it and/or will have a vested interest in any other miners he might host.
1298  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED / GROUP BUY] HASHFAST(BATCH1) 1.55 BTC for 10GH, JOHN K. ESCROW, MAHALO! on: August 27, 2013, 04:20:28 AM
I forgot to add that firstimeuser has electricity costs of only $20 a month!

This was from a message he sent me. Please be patient with him, as English is his second language. Do give him a pat on the back, however, as he knows 4 different languages! I'm sorry this got buried but I'm publishing this now, as this is also a possible option if we opt for personal hosting:

"Hi DZ

Electricity cost me $20/month ALL INCLUDED
I can host and watch(24/7) the Baby Jet for low fee 0.5%
My job is 2(two) min away, next block. I can always leave the job for an hour at any time.
Douring the day I am at home.
My busy-sleeping hours: 2PM - 11PM  Eastern Time. (i will never sleep for the baby jet   Tongue )
"

He lives on Staten Island. Phillip, would you be willing to arrange a meet up somewhere highly visible and public? I know if we opted for personal hosting I'd feel more comfortable knowing a backup was in the same city borough.

1299  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED / GROUP BUY] HASHFAST(BATCH1) 1.55 BTC for 10GH, JOHN K. ESCROW, MAHALO! on: August 27, 2013, 03:59:55 AM
J dave we have spots in the usa with 12 cents a k watt even less . while I could run the gear.

 there has to be some one with a better power price then I have.

 also if I see the gear on the site correctly each unit is like a mid size  pc tower.    since the usa is going into the fall season most any home can run 1 or 2 of these and cooling is not a problem.  Oct to april the north east and or any northern state and the heat the unit give off is free heating for a home.    But to be frank my wife is tired enough of me running all the gpus . Now sold off letting me buy the AM usb sticks and take a flyer or two with a group buy like this.

Im not part of this buy, but i get .086 out here by me/ kw or lower.

Hi bobsag,

Thank you for the offer! You know, you're just the type of person I'm looking for in this private registry I'm building of buyers/sellers of hosting services. Please see my thread (sorry, still in beta) of the GB Escrow Coordinator Services & matchmaking service I'm setting up: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280412.0

Post 6 explains the matchmaking service I offer as well. I only make a small tip if there's a successful match. It's for those willing to have their ID vetted for hosting services and for those willing to come to me privately to find vetted miner hosts with cheap electricity and good reputations.

Please PM me if you have questions or if you're interested.

Cheers!
DZ
1300  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED / GROUP BUY] HASHFAST(BATCH1) 1.55 BTC for 10GH, JOHN K. ESCROW, MAHALO! on: August 27, 2013, 03:53:12 AM
Awesome! I knew we had a good group going into this, but this just confirms it. Smiley

jungle_dave is correct we do need to keep in mind security esp. as awareness of BTC continues to rise. HashFast may actually have been on to something though, with a mid tower form factor, this probably *won't* look much too different from your usual water cooled gaming PC (not that that makes it immune to being overlooked for theft).

If there is such a thing as a perfect home host location it would be:

- Someone vetted and trusted implicitly
- IT background
- Some available to go press the darn reset button nearly 24/7
- Pre-installed security system
- Low crime area
- Big dogs
- No smoking
- A/C
- of course, ultra cheap electricity
- (Bonus!) Works as a cop, armed security guard, or MMA instructor (ehehe)

According to this govt. site:

http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.cfm?t=epmt_5_6_a

Washington (Hydro), Louisiana (Oil refineries), and West Virginia (Coal) have *the* lowest electricity rates in the US. Perhaps we should focus on these 3 states or ones near their ranking if we intend to scale up profitably as a co-op.

I do like phillip will be around or have someone around, and I can live with that electricity rate.

Since we're discussing options: Anyone know of any reputable DataCenters in these Washington or WV? I think Louisiana suffers from too many storms to be a viable host site. We can work together on this to get quotes; teaming up & splitting up states by region could yield us a gem of a quote.

We're looking for: Colocation Mid Tower Hosting (which not all DCs take; which is why I warned HashFast designers about that as soon as I heard back from cypherdoc), usual server services, 24/7 steady bandwidth but does not require huge bandwidth needs (no torrenting; no video/music streaming) so lower levels of the data plans are acceptable. We obviously can't afford something like Tier III/IV-type service guarantees, but we still need something that's up more then 99%+.

We do have another miner I'm assisting that could help with colo costs if we can get a volume discount.

I'm awaiting payment on the last 2 shares from a user (I think he sent it to the escrow wallet, I need to check) but after that: I say we open it up to a vote. Our first. We can vote for professional colocation hosting or home hosting by a co-op member.
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