To argue that it takes longer to ship within the EU than it is from China to the EU is, in the light of day, as counter-intuitive as it is ignorant. All it takes is planning ahead.
It would take longer to ship from China to EU Reseller to Customer than from China direct to customer. If you did not plan ahead, yes. But look at where we are at with the S5 right now. From what I glean from this thread, they have adequate capacity and have already commenced production. So if they shipped the batch destined for EU customers in bulk yesterday, they'd be at their re-seller by tomorow. Now do you wish to argue it will take longer to ship within the EU on / before the 27th to the EU than it would be if they were shipped from China on / before the 27th ? It is a no brainer on all levels if you choose to look at it from the perspective that it deserves. There have been Bitmain resellers in the EU since the S1, they all charged more than buying direct from Bitmain. |
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the s5 is coming
if you want to host it, you can also connect me
i will charge for 40$ for one psu and the host fee will calculate according to 0.1$ per kw also
will test the real power consumption of s5 and give the final price
Will you sell S5 directly incl PSU or do we have to get it delivered to you? |
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why not get a UK seller and have them come over with equipment and then resell etc or come over with van loads of equipment set up shop in UK job done and can get more customers and be happy.
Because its much slower than sending directly to customers, more expensive than sending directly to customers, increases stock holding (unless you want premining) and generally doesn't help. Exactly, I don't see why people think that the UK seller won't have to pay all those fees to get the stock into the country in the first place, and then pass them on to the customer with an additional markup. You can not see the argument because you / your arguments are narrow-minded. If bitmain decided to hold stock in the UK (even EU), they'd DEFINITELY get a better per unit shipping rate (when they ship in bulk to the EU) which can constitute their mark-up to cover their overheads; I argue that it would be enough to even book a real profit NOTWITHSTANDING that the actual price to the customer will not be increased. It is up to bitmain to identify their best "locality" in Europe (UK, Germany, France etc) such that postage in that "locality" will be even lower than the other outer reaches of the EC. They'd be a tax collecting point and effectively reduce the time it takes their customers to get their orders. To argue that it takes longer to ship within the EU than it is from China to the EU is, in the light of day, as counter-intuitive as it is ignorant. All it takes is planning ahead. By the way, the same argument could hold true for the Americas, but I will not argue their case for them. You are naive if you think this. Its actually likely that it would take longer getting stock to customers this way and would also end up costing more to customers. Factors that would affect this: - No matter if you bulk ship or ship individual items you still have to pay VAT to get items into the EU
- Once in the EU you are legally obliged to sell those items with VAT on top so the customer still has to pay
- Cost of setting up the company in the EU is not unsubstantial
- Staff costs WAY more expensive in EU than in China
- Building, warehousing and storage costs WAY more expensive in EU than in China
- Legal, insurance, accountants etc requirements of running business WAY more expensive than in China
And that's just off the top of my head. Best case scenario, you end up paying the same as you would buying it direct, a more likely one is that you would end up paying more. |
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Congrats guys  |
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why not get a UK seller and have them come over with equipment and then resell etc or come over with van loads of equipment set up shop in UK job done and can get more customers and be happy.
Because its much slower than sending directly to customers, more expensive than sending directly to customers, increases stock holding (unless you want premining) and generally doesn't help. Exactly, I don't see why people think that the UK seller won't have to pay all those fees to get the stock into the country in the first place, and then pass them on to the customer with an additional markup. |
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Grill down!  I hung the cutted honey comb grill piece in front of the exhaust fan, and it is blown way by a quite large force, so remove it will improve the airflow for sure. And the hiss noise is gone I can fit a fan wire grill to increase safety, but not a big deal, currently just leave it open (easy to clean the fan from dust ) I did think of that, it harks back to my watercooling days, but effect on resale value turned me off it. |
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Just come back to bitcoin mining.
I am going to setup a mini farm, thinking about sp20 or Bitmain S5
However, can anyone tell me what is sp20 delivery time?
Noted that S5 will delivery on 27/12 .
Thanks.
Immediate shipping. Definitely ships fast in 99% of cases Normally you will get it in a couple of working days, depending on the destination country and the vagaries of local customs officers. Just remember working days in Israel are Sun-Thu |
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Any idea how much UK customs will bite from that s5?
The usual, 20% VAT |
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Me too, if it doesn't come too soon... just in the final throes of my consolidation period. Give me a week or so to build up some coin.  If everything goes as planned you will put your consolidation period on pause because you will have to get this offer. Well I'm only a fraction away from my target, should hit it tonight |
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Sorry guys... I know I'm new here but can you guys please slow down or stop even with the I'm right, you're wrong, I'm right, you're wrong stuff and perhaps bring it to another thread? I get notification for post hoping for information with regards to the S5 but alas.. nothing to do with S5.
Please please please... help keep this thread clean, as least for now until the S5 starts delivering?
Thank you very much for your understanding.
Unsubscribe, or find another hobby this thread will be rife with speculation and trolling/shilling until the units are released. |
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you've been hiding RS.
any new GB forthcoming?
I've been relaxin'  Now that BITMAIN dropped their S5 price I would like to surprise them with a nice and stingy GB offer. In talks right now. this pleases me immensely Me too, if it doesn't come too soon... just in the final throes of my consolidation period. Give me a week or so to build up some coin. where were you when we were all renting out to paycoin? Right there with you, its probably halved the amount of time it would normally take to reach my savings target But I am strict with myself *ooh*  once I have my saving stashed away in the cold wallet I'm then earning to buy. But if difficulty stays flat or negative I may not need to, so may bank again for the first time ever (yes I saw the spike just now) Part of that is BMT S5 testing... so that spike is what you can expect to hit just after next difficulty- that is, if they ever open sales.  effing self-mining.. let's see how long they keep them on for eh? Their 'pet' dogie seems to be avoiding the question. Maybe it is, or it could be friedcat upgrading their farms. Not got anything against Dogie so not going there really |
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you've been hiding RS.
any new GB forthcoming?
I've been relaxin' Now that BITMAIN dropped their S5 price I would like to surprise them with a nice and stingy GB offer. In talks right now. this pleases me immensely Me too, if it doesn't come too soon... just in the final throes of my consolidation period. Give me a week or so to build up some coin. where were you when we were all renting out to paycoin? Right there with you, its probably halved the amount of time it would normally take to reach my savings target But I am strict with myself *ooh* once I have my saving stashed away in the cold wallet I'm then earning to buy. But if difficulty stays flat or negative I may not need to, so may bank again for the first time ever (yes I saw the spike just now) |
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That's something weird with the SP20 which I can't understand. The SP35 [if you can avoid PSU fans spoiling up] is quieter than the SP20 which makes no sense :s
Try fan design and acoustic of the casing? The casings does amplify sounds. I don't own any SP so, can't really comment... I'm just posting to get my activity up. LOL Its not the acoustics of the casing, I have two SP20's one with the stock fan and one that I have been trying other fans on. The main difference is the acoustic quality of the fan itself, the stock fan has a very mechanical acoustic property that is apparent even at lower speeds. Different makes of fans have different sounds from the physical design of the spindle and bearings used. Unfortunately the only other fan that I have tried that gets close to the performance of the stock fan also has a unique acoustic property, a different one, but noticeable and just as annoying. So I am still searching |
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you've been hiding RS.
any new GB forthcoming?
I've been relaxin' Now that BITMAIN dropped their S5 price I would like to surprise them with a nice and stingy GB offer. In talks right now. this pleases me immensely Me too, if it doesn't come too soon... just in the final throes of my consolidation period. Give me a week or so to build up some coin. |
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it doesn't have a lid?
Specs ok but don't like the open design. I wish the price were lower also.  It does have a lid, just for show. Otherwise the pictures would be identical to S3  You might want to read what Bitmain says before posting. No top or bottom. You might consider taking your own advice. BM responded and said there is a bottom, but not a top. An "open top design." ;-) +1 let's get pedantic while we wait on them opening sales.  wasn't this the last thing Warranty said? Topless and bottomless.. seems strange to me but thats what he said. Everyone loves TOPLESS right? S5 batch 1 will even be the Bottom Less!!... (I thought it had the bottom plate but I think I was wrong. I just realized that....)
Side will have the cover. Also not sure why having the pcie ports on the open top side will make them more stackable, rackable side-by-side yes but not stackable on top of each other. |
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What are the dimensions of the red outline area?  You could get a 90cm fan there. But I tried push/pull with 120CFM fans and the performance, albeit quieter was worse than the stock fan. Depends what you want really, if you want high performance, you can't beat the stock fan but if you are willing to make do with 1.3-1.4TH then you can use a quieter fan. I'd like to see a more 3/4pin stock fan header on the control board rather than the nano molex for us "home users" to experiment with. |
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The pictures you've posted shows a residue of the glue. Maybe not enough was applied to the specific ASIC.
Only residue, no sign of glue like other chips, no sign of glue on heatsink either What kind of glue you are using? I have to get those glue if I'm going to recondition the heatsink, now I'm putting 2 heat pads on each corner to stabilize it Mine had none on any on the first SP20 I recieved, I commented on the instability earlier in the thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896161.msg9865070#msg9865070 |
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the change of a1 to s3 will be delayed because of the batch of s3 i bought is unstable and lead to many problem, i will proceed the change when this issue is resolved.
but here is another good news for your guys
i will adjust the host fee again. now i will set the host fee as 0.1$ per kw, but all customer need pay one month host fee in advance, otherwise you will not get this fee.
under new price system the host fee for miner are listed as following.
NO miner type power consumption/w host fee/kw host fee per day($) monthly host fee($)
1 Dragon 1T 1050 0.1 2.52 75.6
2 Dragon 1.5T 1150 0.1 2.76 82.8
3 Antminer S3 390 0.1 0.936 28.08
4 B2 33M 1050 0.1 2.52 75.6
5 Zeus 28M 1050 0.1 2.52 75.6
6 SF 28M 440 0.1 1.056 31.68
7 A2 90M 865 0.1 2.076 62.28
8 A2 110M 1080 0.1 2.592 77.76
9 A2 60M 580 0.1 1.392 41.76
Thats great news |
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