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1461  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: June 11, 2019, 09:21:54 PM
We're tired of your racist behavior!
-snip-
I hope your racism, one of the biggest humanitarian problems in this world, will come to an end.
Yawn, the Ruskis are smarter than the Turkis in their DT shenanigans. You get caught red-handed, and you get excluded appropriately. Maybe you guys just miss the 100+ accounts I wrecked in Bitmixer. Roll Eyes
I'm just waiting for someone to play the victim/discrimination card again so that I can whoop your asses even further. Predictable and childish play; time to grow up.
The post is more boring than I thought.

It’s bull shit tbh, a few really respectable OG members dropped this time for a month, at least?
This is nothing. Wait until the list grows to over the desired 250 people (most of which will be neutral at best when it comes to their trustworthiness), and then a month comes where most old DT members don't get selected. That's when the real fun begins.

Side note:
It seems that a lot of members think that:
a) being a forum moderator, and/or
b) being a merit source,
warrants someone being in their trust list. This is very wrong.
1462  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: June 11, 2019, 06:30:00 PM
Dear attention whore,

You didn't give distrust people who joined the election such as Mindrust, Vispilio and Lydian because they don't speak Turkish. You are racist and you don't have a brain.

But, you know that? We will kick your ass. Don't worry.
https://archive.fo/5ERsk#selection-4707.0-4707.55

You can follow this in order to see how pawns will not behave according to your theory.
This was much easier than most cases. Thanks for the threat. Roll Eyes
1463  Economy / Reputation / Re: Report a Signature Campaign Spammer! on: June 11, 2019, 06:17:53 PM
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legit campaign manager
Why do you call Steve a non-legit manager?
OP is evidently incompetent (this is a fact, not an opinion at this point) and is damaging the whole forum due to his own greed and stupidity.

This is getting ridicoulous.

Could I argue that this spam is scamming my brain and thus properly tag the people behind it? Undecided That would be within the new guidelines.
It has been almost a full 4 months since this was fully brought up, with little to no improvement whatsoever. Changes =/= improvements.
1464  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: June 11, 2019, 06:06:00 PM
This election was fair and natural. You know Theymos can see all ip logs but you didn't behave fairly.
Nonsense. It is nepotism and has nothing to do with decentralization. This is the exact same response that I got the last time I took down some colluding/abusing pricks from the Turkish section. I'm just waiting for someone to play the victim/discrimination card again so that I can whoop your asses even further. Predictable and childish play; time to grow up.

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2) I have been retaliatory tagged by a verified scammer a long time ago: profile.
3) The user seems to find themselves now in DT2 due to his buddies. Quite a trustworthy list indeed.
What a lie. Goraset isn't DT2 and he didn't join the election.
Goraset isn't in DT2 because I kicked him out shortly after posting about it. Your brain isn't advanced enough to keep up.

You can follow this in order to see how pawns will not behave according to your theory.
The post that I just responded to (which I also got as a PM) exactly proved my point. None of these people should be anywhere near DT.

@theymos: There also needs to be a way for the trust list of an inactive/dead account to get automatically de-activated (yet remain where it is in the very odd case that such a user does come back). Given your target numbers, both DT1 and DT2 will have many members primarily due to such accounts/old lists.
1465  Other / Meta / Re: BAN APPEAL HodlHodl on: June 11, 2019, 01:22:42 PM
Banning them is a mistake, quite a horrible one. Can't no moderator at least respond as to what was wrong?
1466  Economy / Reputation / Re: About red-trust for... on: June 11, 2019, 10:44:19 AM
Hey I've question just curious. If in case.
- Someone has bought account bitcoins then deal with sign message, that account will be tagged as redtrust?
The answer is (almost) always yes, just send the account to me.
1467  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: June 11, 2019, 10:20:30 AM
I was always intending to choose a random subset of 100 once more than 100 became eligible. This creates more people who have a credible threat of retaliation: if you give someone negative trust for some stupid reason, you have reason to worry about them or a close friend of theirs negative-trusting you for a similarly stupid reason, if not in this month, then in a future month. I think that it pushes people (without forcing people) toward acting in-line with consensus, so that any retaliation against your sent negative trust always gets the sender excluded definitively.
Or it enables semi-random accounts to permanently keep you tagged because they ran an "election" in some local section. I think you've underestimated how evil your forum members are, given the right opportunity.

A good case:
1) I've excluded a big bulk of people from a "turkish election" (this is not decentralized in any way and if I did something similar, you'd have 10x the gang threads you have right now) here: thread.
2) I have been retaliatory tagged by a verified scammer a long time ago: profile.
3) The user seems to find themselves now in DT2 due to his buddies. Quite a trustworthy list indeed.
4) A few users have been PM'd about this, some of which are in the exclusion list[1].

[1] I took the opposite path of getting adequate number of exclusions and went straight to the root of the problem. You can follow this in order to see how pawns will not behave according to your theory.
1468  Other / Meta / Re: Complete overview of users on DT1 and DT2 and their ratings on: June 11, 2019, 07:13:31 AM
   33. 176461: Lydian (Trust: neutral) (69 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
Stuff like this shows how the quality of the system is gradually going down. Roll Eyes
Check his Trust list history: 19, 20 and 21. It's the result of a "local board election":
What's interesting, is that many users on this list included several of the same users. EFS for instance now has 9 new inclusions, but since he only has 2 inclusions on his own Trust list, he can't be elected for DT1. Note: EFS is a Staff member and had many inclusions already.
This seems to be based on Türk lokal forumu için DT üyeleri seçiyoruz (Google Translate: "We choose DT members for the Turkish local forum").

I didn't expect a "local election" to pop up on my list of newly created Trust lists Cheesy
Note that this is exactly how the system is intended to work, so this (alone) shouldn't be a reason to start excluding users.
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~xyz
~cygan
~2run
~EFS
~by rallier
~teramit
~Buchi-88
~quasimodo
~mhanbostanci
~Halmater
~Matthias9515
~PHI1618
~sonerbo
~BitcoinTurk
~bobita
~wolwoo
~gorkem19888
~gospodin
~trendcoin
~Bthd
~ziya1453
~Kalemder
~ekiller
~AlyattesLydia
~Asber
~HARDCRACKERS
~jopen
~Leteravian
~ugurum15
~addtelegrams
How is this for an election? EFS is untrustworthy, the elected people are random and likely to be abusing the forum in many ways given the history with that section. Nepotism. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Things to look at:
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Blazed
DIKUL
DireWolfM14
Flying Hellfish
Last of the V8s
Lydian
Micio
PHI1618
Piggy
Rmcdermott927
Silent26
Tomatocage
TookDk
abhiseshakana
arulbero
babo
crwth
fillippone
kzv
mhanbostanci
micgoossens
mikeywith
mindrust
pandukelana2712
redsn0w
1469  Other / Meta / Re: Complete overview of users on DT1 and DT2 and their ratings on: June 11, 2019, 06:37:42 AM
   33. 176461: Lydian (Trust: neutral) (69 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
Stuff like this shows how the quality of the system is gradually going down. Roll Eyes Wait, I'm not in that list anymore.  Cheesy
1470  Economy / Reputation / Re: Tomatocage wakes up, posts a ref link... be careful on: June 10, 2019, 06:45:57 PM
And I'm not associated with QS at all. He seemed pretty chill back in the day, but I haven't really kept up on the forums lately.
Great, do everyone a favour and go back to the place where you were all this time.
1471  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [CALL FOR OPINIONS] Physical Bitcoin Trackers ? Do we need them ? If yes, how ? on: June 10, 2019, 05:28:23 PM
Is daily accuracy something we need ?
It is not, no.
1472  Economy / Services / Re: [ANN] CET - Crypto Escrow Team on: June 10, 2019, 03:17:23 PM
Stay up.
1473  Other / Meta / Re: Problem with Stake.com Signature on: June 10, 2019, 02:41:11 PM
I messaged SteveStake when I created this thread asking him to comment, and pointing him to this thread. It seems he has responded by creating this thread soliciting reports of signature spammers. 
So his solution is to not provide a solution but let the community do the work for him? This has made the situation worse. Roll Eyes
He is trying to show he is doing something about the problem he caused in response to this thread and the possibility he won’t be able to advertise via spammers anymore. His solution isn’t going to work— it isn’t the community’s job to police his spammers and his proposal isn’t being taken very well.
I agree with you on that one. In fact, his "solution" is a joke at best.
1474  Economy / Reputation / Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam. on: June 10, 2019, 02:29:45 PM
Thank you everyone for taking such an interest in the campaign, if you have evidence of someone abusing a signature campaign and you'd like to see action taken against them report them here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5152812
Do I look like I am willing to do your job for you? Incompetent.
1475  Other / Meta / Re: Problem with Stake.com Signature on: June 10, 2019, 02:27:01 PM
I messaged SteveStake when I created this thread asking him to comment, and pointing him to this thread. It seems he has responded by creating this thread soliciting reports of signature spammers. 
So his solution is to not provide a solution but let the community do the work for him? This has made the situation worse. Roll Eyes
1476  Other / Meta / Re: Problem with Stake.com Signature on: June 10, 2019, 08:31:34 AM
They should probably do a complete overhaul of who is on the campaign. Remove everyone and start again and only accept users who make decent posts. Accepting everyone and anyone is just asking for trouble and it will quickly be abused as it has been. It's much more beneficial to have a handful of quality posters rather than dozens or even hundreds of low quality posters.
This will end up being a waste of time as long as they don't hire a proper manager. That's the actual cause of the problem.
1477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 10, 2019, 05:28:18 AM
Weekly close looks very ugly and points to a trend reversal.

We might revisit 6k range in the coming weeks/months.
You know nothing, but might end up being temporarily right just out of sheer luck. Cute.
1478  Economy / Reputation / Re: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam. on: June 09, 2019, 08:05:36 PM
Why does this problem remain unsolved? Is stake trying to become the next Yobit and get blacklisted?
1479  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 🔥🔥🔥★OVERVIEW OF SERVICES★🔥🔥🔥 on: June 09, 2019, 01:34:33 PM
Bump for today.
Why is Woshib, a scammer, still listed here?
1480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: June 09, 2019, 11:12:30 AM
They still didn't implement deepsend as they said they would have.
In the end, once they "deliver" then it is going to turn out to be a rewrite (at best) of something that Dash or some other coin implemented ages ago. In what world is that not a scam and anyone promoting it is not an accomplice? Roll Eyes
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