What reasons do you have to trust AMT? Please, enlighten me. Because they have a website and 2 videos? Because they took your money? Because they posted a photo of some chips and a few cases?

Every facet of AMT being a legitimate U.S business looks shady. Your way of dealing with people that bring this information to light, is to insult them - then back AMT with "they are trying their hardest". A speculative statement brought upon by what? Do you have some insight about AMT's operations that makes you feel so confident? If so, please share it with the thread in an effort to make everyone feel better.

You have also made this personal. I shouldn't have to prove anything to you, and vice versa. I don't care what kind of miners you currently operate, or what your history is in this industry. We're here talking about whether or not AMT is going to deliver their orders - THAT'S IT!

Your excuses for AMT's numerous errors is "humans make mistakes". That might somehow excuse their manufacturing and shipping delays, but it doesn't excuse the utter lack of professionalism exhibited by AMT in this thread. If there are circumstances which create delays, they should be updating us either by email or this thread. We all understand the industry, but what is compounding the problem is their lack of communication with their customers and insulting posts towards their customers. If AMT is legitimate, then they are by far the worst company I have ever seen in terms of business ethics and treatment/respect of their customers.

They are treating CLENELL like shit and he's a paying customer simply requesting updates on what's going on. Instead of addressing the delays, they'd rather hop on here and insult him, and demand he remove amazon reviews if he wants his refund. This is ridiculous. What legitimate businesses operate this way? It isn't far fetched at all to believe CLENNEL's story about them not taking credit card's - their website says they accept CC/Paypal, but in actuality they don't. Every promised update from AMT has been missed, what is your reasoning for this (humans make mistakes)? I simply want AMT held accountable.

If they just took CC's from the beginning this could of all been avoided. We the consumers, would have some form of protection from the possibility of fraud or non delivery : but that isn't the case. Everything with AMT seems to be bait & switch, if they do not take CC/Paypal - perhaps it's time they removed that from their website.

No one wants this to be a scam. No one wants to throw this in the faces of others. Accept this, and try to be proactive about getting real answers and updates with others here in this thread. AMT can defend themselves should they choose, they do not need you to do it for them.

FRICTIONLESSCOIN: You might find yourself making that trip to PA to get your refund in the near future. Why don't you stop and think about what you are saying before you decide to cannabilize CLENELL. He hasn't done anything wrong in my eyes.

ISAWHIM - YOU are the idiot. You know I wanted to like you, because in some aspects you seem like an intelligent guy - but the more I read coming from you, the more it's obvious you're just an AMT sympathizer - and for no good reason too. You would defend AMT while they were smothering you to death, you're that much of a shill.

Pull your head out of your ass and realize that guys like Augusto, Bruno, and I have absolutely nothing to gain by bringing up these facts about AMT. We are concerned about our own investments as well as the communities'. Unfortunately, it's guys like you that make me think "you know, I hope AMT is a scam because I wouldn't mind seeing that kiss ass ISAWHIM get ripped off" - because you deserve it for how you've gone about defending AMT for no good reason.

Same goes for you FRICTIONLESSCOIN: You want everyone with concerns about AMT's dodgy business, to shutup and hope for the best: and why? Because you want to sell your miners as soon as you get them! Every post of yours includes details on how people should 'hit you up to buy your miner'. If you had such faith in AMT, you wouldn't be trying to sell your spots preemptively and recoup your funds. I believe you are just trying to break even at this point, and you don't care what the real deal is. Your attempts to get the community to further trust AMT isn't based on the communities' best interest, but your own.

There is no question that the Joshua Zipkin (man in the pictures) is the same guy who is running AMT. I could give a shit whether he wants his photo posted up all over these forums, he should of thought of that before starting AMT and conducting business the way he has. Josh made this very personal when he started posting peoples' real names in this thread as a bully tactic. I will make it a personal mission to fuck this guys life up if he screws anyone out of their miners or $. I don't give a shit where he goes or what he does, I will post his ugly ass all over the internet and make him known to the world as the piece of shit scumbag thief that he is.

Once again: Augusto, bruno, puppet, RickJames, Biomech, etc. - anyone that has reasonably questioned these fishy facts about AMT - thank you for bringing common sense to the table and being REAL about things. The rest of you guys that have been overly-positive towards AMT for your discount, or hopes that it will get you your miner faster - FUCK OFF. The community doesn't need deluded people like you.

Thanks for your insight, but because some of the photographs were taken in that location in Bulgaria - doesn't necessarily tie the owners of AMT to that particular place.

It might be better time spent looking further into data on ownership of AMT and collecting more information on both Joshua Zipkin and "Jim Brown".

And just to mention this, but didn't anyone find it ODD that they would offer 5 to 10% off hardware purchases in exchange for 'fighting trolls' in this thread. Seems like a ridiculous thing for a legitimate company to do. This was just one of MANY warning signs.

I am still hopeful they ship the machines out and not turn this into a major fraud.

I like how we are all referring to these guys as AMT - like they are some legitimate business with numerous employees. EVERYTHING POINTS TO THIS AS A 2 MAN OPERATION. Just because they have some part time help or friends, the person financially accountable for this debacle is the founder of AMT (JOSHUA ZIPKIN). I like how he'd downplayed his role/involvement with AMT in this thread (look back).

They have some rented office space in Pensylvania. Big fucking deal. Anyone can rent out some office space in an attempt to prove they are legitimate. So what if AMT goes under? Well, no need to worry! They are incorporated and likely have limited liability!

AMT is composed of 2 people:

JOSHUA ZIPKIN(FOUNDER / THREAD POSTER)

http://www.crunchbase.com/person/joshua-zipkin
http://vk.com/joshzipkin

and

JIM BROWN(TECHNICAL SUPPORT PHONE/EMAIL BITCH)

From all the videos we've seen, it's been Joshua Zipkin representing AMT - including this thread, he has been posting here as AMT_MINERS.

I advise everyone to keep emails exchanged with these guys and even copy them to this thread so everyone can see.

These guys need to be held accountable for their actions (or inaction I should say). At the end of the day, Joshua can fly back to Bulgaria with everyone's money while we sit here in the U.S waiting for miners to arrive. Read the past posts in the thread started by Augusto Croppo, there is a lot of aspects of their business that is shady.

Thanks for digging into this for us Augusto - you are an asset to this community.

I don't believe a word of this. It's amazing they expect us to believe that they are manufacturing bleeding-edge technology, but don't have the means to put photos and videos together themselves to update the user-base.

It's a crock of shit if you ask me.

How about a photograph AMT? Or does that need to be 'resized and prepared' by a production company for you to post them up?

Funny - one post from AMT and everyone is back to kissing their asses.

Please let us know if anyone receives tracking numbers for their miners.

I also think it is illegal to not give someone a refund until they remove reviews made of their company. THAT is blackmail. Everyone has the right to leave reviews however they see fit; regardless of what happens in reality.

AMT's responses in this thread have been nothing short of pathetic.

Your over-optimism isn't going to help put everyone here at ease.

You HAVE to admit they have been ridiculous when it comes to updating us on what's going on. Nothing is ever solid coming from them.

Still waiting to see if Grumpybeargirl received their check...

Also, anyone else that has had communication with anyone from AMT in the few days - please let us know.

Maybe some in the PA area can go by their office to make sure they haven't packed up and left town?

I'm sure we'll be more concerned with getting our money back - let's hope that isn't the case.

I suspect they are communicating with certain people to put their minds at ease; mostly those that haven't inquired before. Them, and new prospective customers that they want to secure funds from.

I hope they get back to you soon, otherwise legal action should be the course of action for all of us.

This lack of communication is inexcusable - I don't care how little business or customer service experience AMT has: responding to customers in a timely fashion is common sense that cannot be excused anymore. Even an HONEST amateur in ANY industry, would be able to effectively communicate with their investors.

HERE, HERE!

EVERYONE PULL THEIR HEADS OUT OF THEIRS ASSES AND DEMAND ANSWERS FROM AMT!

No shit. Everytime a new member arrives, they are in full support of AMT - regardless of having received anything.

This is such bullshit.

I bet all these 'supportive buyers' are the same person.

Everyone is left to speculate without clear updates from AMT.

AMT - WHATS THE DEAL???

Maybe he wants to make sure that his miner ACTUALLY EXISTS before taking money from others.

Thanks for the update, please keep us posted!

Hoping it will work out for you.

And now trying to recruit people off of this forum to work for AMT... Are you serious?

First we're told that this forum isn't a direct means of communicating with customers - this is in response to us asking for photos. Now, they are looking for job applicants off this forums.

What a joke.

If our miners don't ship, and refunds aren't attainable - everyone remember the name Joshua Zipkin. Based on what I know so far, he's the only one that speaks on behalf of AMT (and is AMT_Miners on the forums here).

Let's see what kind of update we receive tomorrow.

You don't have ANY facts. You are just relaying what AMT_Miners has been saying on here. Stop acting like you have the inside track on what's going on.

So far they haven't :

1. Posted photos of finished 1.2TH's (yknow, to prove they ACTUALLY exist)
2. Delivered a single 1.2TH yet

But let's see what happens tomorrow.

Don't bother responding to Toots - the way he defends AMT, I believe him to be part of their team...

Or he's just kissing ass out of fear of not getting his miner.

Either way, he isn't worth the time.

(yawn) ...you still here?

Go back a few pages when I told you to STFU, then rinse and repeat.

Let's see what happens Wednesday.