They also keep seizing bitcoins once in a while


The buyers will be identified and are probably not criminals, if they want to anonymize their bitcoins they can use tumblers or third party websites

If you want to buy a limited number of bitcoins and you don't want to do anything illegal you are safe

I am surprise not so many members came forward to say how much they lost

uptweets hasn't logged in since May 27, it would be interesting to have a comment from him but it would probably be along the lines of "i am not the early investor ED is talking about"

I shouldn't randomnly advertise threads

I am editing my post; I just found the threads and thought it might interest OP

I registered last week and I had successful deposits and cash outs but I am worried to see all the players that are having troubles depositing and cashing out, any comments on that from the website or regular players?

We still have 15days to go this month

It could be at the end of the month or early in July

Seeing the new rates for next campaign period will be interesting

No but they have min bet and max bet on tables that makes it unconvenient

I was so lucky to catch the last 5minutes of it, if you check the thread everyday you should participate in the next happy hour

PD3 is coming soon, maybe they have a promotion in place for the launch

On an other note, if you allow instant deposit for clients that played more than 5 or 10BTC but you don't allow to cash out before those deposits have been confirmed is there really a big risk involved for PD??

When it is going down you can trace a trend line going down!


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Posted on: Today at 11:33:27 AM New message Posted by: Blitz­
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Bitstamp is higher than Bitfinex. Think on that. Shocked
Posted on: Today at 11:32:58 AM Posted by: TERA
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Guys chill out it's not just going to break through both of these supports in one go right away, right here where they are intersecting. I think if they break then it will break them both separately on separate occasions starting in at least a couple weeks.
Posted on: Today at 11:31:08 AM Posted by: roslinpl
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I think ++ is coming.

Just compare a volume with a price - and you will understand, that we will have ++ to a price very soon Smiley

And even another China Ban will not change it Wink
Posted on: Today at 11:28:58 AM Posted by: Blitz­
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It's a really tiresome statement. You do lose if the price goes down and you haven't realized the loss. You have fewer options now. You have no access to your former wealth and your purchasing power has declined. Will it be undone in the future? Maybe. But you are trapped in the present.

Remember, everything is still denominated in FILTHY FIAT.
Posted on: Today at 11:25:37 AM Posted by: Miz4r
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Quote from: samsonn25 on Today at 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: Miz4r on Today at 11:14:42 AM
I just bought some coins at $555, I think we're going up from here. If we break convincingly below 530 on Stamp I will take my losses.

You only lose If you sell lower than purchase price

Yes thanks captain obvious. But if we break below 530 we will go back to 450 and maybe lower so I'm not going to keep holding this bag through that. I have other bags I'm still holding though, but they're $100/coin bags so not as heavy. Wink
Posted on: Today at 11:22:44 AM Posted by: Blitz­
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Not that anyone here gives a shit about technical analysis except when it confirms their biases, but whatever.

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Posted on: Today at 11:21:04 AM Posted by: Tzupy
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Quote from: JorgeStolfi on Today at 11:03:31 AM
Quote from: sidhujag on Today at 04:50:56 AM
So essentially we can say either China has 10x more interest than the rest of the world or the numbers are cooked up if usd is isolated from yuan or rmb. What I care about is money coming out of fiat and into btc.
I am not sure what you mean, but: from all I have read, I am quite convinced that the November rally was entirely due to demand in the Chinese exchanges.  Ditto for the December crash and partial recovery, the decline from February to April, the stagnation in May, and the the mini-rally a couple weeks ago.  Not sure yet about the current decline, but it seems to have coinided with a new push to cut out the remaining channels of yuan deposit to the exchanges. 

I don't know how many coins are still in the hands of Chinese speculators and investors, but, if the markets there were to close and those coins returned to the Western market (which they probably would, since speculation seems to be the last significant utility of bitcoin in China), I am quite convinced that the price would drop to somewhere between 80$ (an estimate of where it would be if China had never entered the game) and 350$ (which it briefly reached after one of the PBoC scares).

As for Mr. Lee's claims: his exchange BTC-China used to have the largest volume in China until the December crash. Since that time it has become insignificant, while Huobi, OKCoin, and the other Nameless Ones became dominant.  (Huobi in particular seems to have bumped its volume just when BTC-China suddenly lost theirs).  I watched that video and heard the claims, but did not see the evidence. His being elected to the board of the Shrem Karpelès & Friends Foundation, together with Mr. Pierce, did not help convince me.


A few comments: the November 'rally' was the mania phase of the bubble, it would have happened anyway, but several months later.
The Chinese mania could have lasted a bit longer if the PBoC wouldn't have decided to cut the funding to the exchanges.
But the PBoC doesn't want to create a massive bitcoin crash, because of the potential social unrest associated with such a crash.
So for now the Chinese exchanges are in limbo IMO, they can't truly fund another significant uptrend, but don't want to start capitulation yet.
I already expressed my opinion that the closure of Chinese exchanges could drive the price to 100$ or below.
However, they seem to plan a move outside the jurisdiction of the PBoC, which may be a turbulent market period, because
they can easily transfer bitcoins from servers in mainland China, but customers' yuan could be tough to transfer to a new friendlier home.
Posted on: Today at 11:20:35 AM Posted by: bitgeek
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Quote from: samsonn25 on Today at 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: Miz4r on Today at 11:14:42 AM
I just bought some coins at $555, I think we're going up from here. If we break convincingly below 530 on Stamp I will take my losses.

You only lose If you sell lower than purchase price
That's right, just buy and hold,it will eventually get back up. The only losers in bitcoin are those who react to FUD.
Posted on: Today at 11:20:11 AM Posted by: Blitz­
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Quote from: Miz4r on Today at 11:14:42 AM
I just bought some coins at $555, I think we're going up from here. If we break convincingly below 530 on Stamp I will take my losses.
Short term, there's a descending wedge in process, plus bullish divergences in MACD/RSI in various timeframes, and declining volume. I don't think there is much selling power left even if we take out the former low, but medium term is another story.
Posted on: Today at 11:17:41 AM Posted by: samsonn25
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Quote from: Miz4r on Today at 11:14:42 AM
I just bought some coins at $555, I think we're going up from here. If we break convincingly below 530 on Stamp I will take my losses.

You only lose If you sell lower than purchase price
Posted on: Today at 11:14:42 AM Posted by: Miz4r
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I just bought some coins at $555, I think we're going up from here. If we break convincingly below 530 on Stamp I will take my losses.
Posted on: Today at 11:14:10 AM Posted by: fonzie
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Quote from: deadley on Today at 11:11:59 AM
Quote from: tarmi on Today at 10:40:58 AM
buhahaha, all the bears already talking about 300~400, and they didnt break not even the 540 support yet. at the weekend day.



Dont you think its normal phenomena, when we going upside we talk about only upside and when we going downside then its same we talk only downside.

The difference between bulls and bears in runups or crashes is that bulls laugh about bears and insult them whereas bears mostly just laugh about Bitcoin.
Posted on: Today at 11:11:59 AM Posted by: deadley
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Quote from: tarmi on Today at 10:40:58 AM
buhahaha, all the bears already talking about 300~400, and they didnt break not even the 540 support yet. at the weekend day.



Dont you think its normal phenomena, when we going upside we talk about only upside and when we going downside then its same we talk only downside.
Posted on: Today at 11:03:31 AM Posted by: JorgeStolfi
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Quote from: sidhujag on Today at 04:50:56 AM
So essentially we can say either China has 10x more interest than the rest of the world or the numbers are cooked up if usd is isolated from yuan or rmb. What I care about is money coming out of fiat and into btc.
I am not sure what you mean, but: from all I have read, I am quite convinced that the November rally was entirely due to demand in the Chinese exchanges.  Ditto for the December crash and partial recovery, the decline from February to April, the stagnation in May, and the the mini-rally a couple weeks ago.  Not sure yet about the current decline, but it seems to have coinided with a new push to cut out the remaining channels of yuan deposit to the exchanges. 

I don't know how many coins are still in the hands of Chinese speculators and investors, but, if the markets there were to close and those coins returned to the Western market (which they probably would, since speculation seems to be the last significant utility of bitcoin in China), I am quite convinced that the price would drop to somewhere between 80$ (an estimate of where it would be if China had never entered the game) and 350$ (which it briefly reached after one of the PBoC scares).

As for Mr. Lee's claims: his exchange BTC-China used to have the largest volume in China until the December crash. Since that time it has become insignificant, while Huobi, OKCoin, and the other Nameless Ones became dominant.  (Huobi in particular seems to have bumped its volume just when BTC-China suddenly lost theirs).  I watched that video and heard the claims, but did not see the evidence. His being elected to the board of the Shrem Karpelès & Friends Foundation, together with Mr. Pierce, did not help convince me.
Posted on: Today at 11:00:57 AM Posted by: ChartBuddy
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Posted on: Today at 10:40:58 AM Posted by: tarmi
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buhahaha, all the bears already talking about 300~400, and they didnt break not even the 540 support yet. at the weekend day.

Posted on: Today at 10:40:04 AM Posted by: fonzie
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This has nothing at all to do with the FBI Coins. !
Posted on: Today at 10:37:23 AM Posted by: yrtrnc
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There's alot going for BTC right now. I dont see the news about FBI really affecting the market anymore than this. If anything it should be seen as positive. Since the US government has once again accepted BTC.
Posted on: Today at 10:33:43 AM Posted by: fonzie
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GHashinese Torpedo hits USS Bitcoin. Lot more to come! Admiral Finex already wounded!
Posted on: Today at 10:27:47 AM Posted by: samsonn25
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Yes long term. This Has Been Established and tested many times since last year. Of course short term there are higher support levels.
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It may, we'll see

Le monde change et les innovations battent les vieux systemes; pouvoir acheter un BTC pour un 550$ est une opportunité incroyable

2BTC means 2000posts for a Sr Member and the banner visible on all past posts for this member so it means hundreds of thousands of views of the banner, there is probably only 2-4 members that get 1BTC or more per month

Most members that participate in a sig program post 50-300 and gamble it away on PD, they end up redepositing during the month and grow PD's bankroll and business

PD is known, liked and trusted because of the sig campaign and they know it, it is a way of giving back to the community@players and establish trust and positive image which is utterly important for a casino and very lucrative

We should have a bet on how much will be bet in the first 24h of launch

The mining reward will go down over time and adoption will grow; Bitcoin took off but it just started; Bitcoin will seem great compared to inflated currencies fixed by governments that create wars and economic turmoil

Maybe some are driving the market price down to get a better deal during the auctions

It is easier for them to sell 3000 at a time

If you cannot prove it and the judge is doubtful it will not stand in court

Liquidity, fast&easy deposits/cash outs and trust are the way to go

Interac online deposit can be nice to deposit fast, cash deposit can be helpful for some

If you buy a big amount of BTC with the auction at market price you made money compared to buying on the market because buying this big amount of BTC would have drive the price up while you were buying so you bought a lower price than market price

But the funny thing is that if you want to sell your BTC you will lose money because you will drive the price lower even if you bought lower than market price!

It takes dedication to save a lot when you are not making a lot

There is no substitute to delaying gratification when one wants to succeed, except luck

If the credit is too cheap because it is fixed by the FED, it blows air into bubbles, we saw that in 2000 with the dotcom bubble then during the house bubble and now it seems it is the time of a USD bubble

Someone won 344k 3m or 30m here?

I think the max I won was 20k