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821  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 13, 2014, 01:18:38 PM
Why not let this topic die?
Let's sum this up:

Libertarians: let them die and rot.

Socialists: welfare.

Religious: charity.

Which of them solves poverty? In the bad way only libertarians. The others just assume a constant flow of the poor.

It isn't dead because of gross misrepresentations of the arguments of capitalism and libertarianism, like this shit you just pulled.

What misinterpretation? Who will pay welfare? XV century's charity?!
I don't mean to be rude, but after see a couple of your posts I came to notice you long for a world where you won't survive. You are consistently ignoring the chains that form the society, as if you see it as only what you get and what you pay. A way too short view for such a big world.

Like you said early, if a bank seize my assets it's OK for beat the banker to be refunded. The issue is that cutting welfare will be seizing the assets and/or income of the poor or wannabe poor, and at the very same time not cut it means the seizure of many people's money... So there you have "justifed violence"" from both sides. Complicated, isn't it?

If you leave the economy free, people will have far enough money to help the few that will be on the sideline; would you help them? If you think you would, do you think you are far better than average? Probably not!

If you take 100 and give back 10 to the poor it doesn't help the poor since the 100 you take are taken partially on the poor; if poor didn't pay any taxes and were enjoying a free society they would be less poor

Are you what? 15? And skip all your History classes? You are NOT dreaming or talking of a new world, that already happened, in fact that's how the world was until XX century, and poverty was a constant back then.

Poverty went down for 200years but the gap between rich and poor and poverty is going up as the State is growing bigger in the USA for decades; there is no substitute to creation of wealth by freely offering goods and services that people want without application of force, all the innovations come from citizens not from the State

The more money is given to the poor the more they stay poor and the rich get richer, that is the trend we are seeing for decades in the US; the more the State the big the best it is for the biggest corporations such as big wall street banks because they get the regulation they want and are protected of competition

Look at how a middle class family was living in the 50s in the US and how they are living now; in the 50s a single salary was providing for the whole family of 4, they had no debts, 2cars and were owners of their home; the wealth has been created in the States thanks to low taxes and small government, it is the core essence of the USA and the constitution was created to protect that and freedom

2 exemples of bad practices of the State : in healthcare and in education the State has been intervening the most and the costs are going to the roof.

If you support big government you support Obama and Bush and you think they are doing good for the country; bet you don't support both so you don't support big government; big government means sociopaths in power who want to control others, you can't have big government with nice people in power, it is not possible because nice people don't want to control their brothers
822  Other / Archival / Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns on: September 13, 2014, 01:10:29 PM


I do also remember this, lmao, when rates were climbing up to ridiculous amounts and you could make over $1 a post. The rates are still pretty ridiculous when you think about it, for participating in a forum.

I think it's pretty ridiculous we can earn quite a decent amount of bitcoins in such a way. I've never seen any other forum do this sort of thing, but it's just another reason why I love this place and also bitcoin. Hope they both go on forever hehe.

Oh, and thanks for keeping this thread going op. It's very useful to the community.

0.1 is what you can earn on average for Sr and Hr, it is not that much!

Agree that 1B+/month was outrageous and great but it is over, for now

Am getting 0/month at the moment
823  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: September 13, 2014, 01:05:31 PM
if Stunna close this campaign
it become a major loss  Cry

How many alts you got on this campaign?  Cheesy. It would be a massive loss to the community I think, but nothing lasts forever. Places to get on campaigns will be like golddust if this one stops. It's already pretty hard to get a place on them. Whatever he decides is out of everyone's hands, though.

An upcoming Bitcoin casino would have a huge opportunity to create a nice signature campaign on the forum and steal the first position to PD
824  Other / Off-topic / Re: Red Meat : you are eating blood on: September 13, 2014, 10:15:08 AM
If you want to be disgusted by Red Meat to lower your consumption of Red Meat, just think that Red Meat is red because it is full of Blood, disgusting idea isn't it?
Opinion varies,being a vegetarian you are eating the animals food.

So if you are a vegetarian you are hurting the animals Grin
825  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is it a bad decision to payoff mortgage early on: September 13, 2014, 10:14:29 AM
You just have to compare the tax and risk adjusted returns from the investments that you make, vs the cost of continuing the mortgage.

False!! he has to consider the other investment opportunity cost as well
826  Other / Off-topic / Re: My Bitcointalk Status is Now Legendary on: September 13, 2014, 10:13:44 AM
I want be Legendary too...
I must post every day haha

Just posts 10 x's a day for 365 days and there you go lol  Grin

That is not enough Smiley That would not even bring a newbee to hero level.
You will need about 2 years of posting.

Edit: Bowing deep for the highness Cheesy

2 years of posting for what?
To become highness?
LOL I don't consider this forum ranks so important in my life and don't think so much about this.
Many other things are more serious and important Smiley

No, to make money.  Nice to make ~$10k/yr. extra just because of some unimportant forum rank...

Why would he make 10k$/year because he is legendary??
827  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bought my first 0.1 BTC on: September 13, 2014, 10:10:50 AM
I remember my first 0,1 btc, it was a great goal in my crypto-life, now I aim to 1 btc before the end of 2014.

Was it three years ago? Grin It was probably a month or two ago and you "remember it" Shocked

Good luck on your goal of having 1BTC

dont gamble thinking you`ll win. just hold on to it!

Good advice! Casino owners already have enough bitcoins Tongue
828  Other / Off-topic / Re: Movie Recommendation Station on: September 13, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
Hunger Games was nice

French movie Gibraltar was OK

Good movies that already recommended :

Some likes it hot (1959)-
A River Runs Through It-
slow but deep
Divergent-
action, female heroin "hunger games" type of movie
Gattaca-
probablymore for guys, 1997
The Fighter-
about boxing but great
American History X-1998
829  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Le bitcoin devrait remonter on: September 13, 2014, 10:02:01 AM
le prix du bitcoin monte en moyenne régulièrement,

 le prix du bitcoin monte en moyenne régulièrement jusqu'a maintenant
$

exactement Wink

10$ il y a deux ans et 100$ il y a un an; ça dit tout!
830  Other / Off-topic / Re: IF YOU HAD 1,000,000 DOLLARS WHAT WOULD YOU BUY??? on: September 13, 2014, 10:01:29 AM
Football Club  Grin

What football can you buy and be allowed to manage for 1m$? An amateur club maybe Wink

Buy a new car and rest will be invested into bitcoins.

People on this forum need cars apparently
831  Other / Meta / Re: Activity & new membergroup limits on: September 13, 2014, 09:59:25 AM
I have 30+ post and only 14 activit Huh dunno exact how this work

You will get 14 activity per 2 weeks interval if you post 14 posts. No matter how many you post, you will only get 14 activity per 2 weeks interval.

P.S. Check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582736.0 for timings! Smiley

  ~~MZ~~

You are wrong Muhammed; you can get more than 14 activity per 2weeks period!
832  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 13, 2014, 09:58:21 AM
Why not let this topic die?
Let's sum this up:

Libertarians: let them die and rot.

Socialists: welfare.

Religious: charity.

Which of them solves poverty? In the bad way only libertarians. The others just assume a constant flow of the poor.

It isn't dead because of gross misrepresentations of the arguments of capitalism and libertarianism, like this shit you just pulled.

What misinterpretation? Who will pay welfare? XV century's charity?!
I don't mean to be rude, but after see a couple of your posts I came to notice you long for a world where you won't survive. You are consistently ignoring the chains that form the society, as if you see it as only what you get and what you pay. A way too short view for such a big world.

Like you said early, if a bank seize my assets it's OK for beat the banker to be refunded. The issue is that cutting welfare will be seizing the assets and/or income of the poor or wannabe poor, and at the very same time not cut it means the seizure of many people's money... So there you have "justifed violence"" from both sides. Complicated, isn't it?

If you leave the economy free, people will have far enough money to help the few that will be on the sideline; would you help them? If you think you would, do you think you are far better than average? Probably not!

If you take 100 and give back 10 to the poor it doesn't help the poor since the 100 you take are taken partially on the poor; if poor didn't pay any taxes and were enjoying a free society they would be less poor
833  Economy / Services / Re: Primedice Collective Referral Link - LOW COMMISSION on: September 12, 2014, 11:11:41 PM
LOCKED UP AND CLOSED- Grin
834  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Here is how to make a brain wallet 100 times more secure. on: September 12, 2014, 09:17:40 PM
Think you should think about your brain wallet and the password for months before you send any significant value to the address to be sure you thought about it

Am a big fan of having a few lawyers of security, for a brain wallet don't forget not to talk about your brain wallet or password to anyone

Wonder what method the owners of the biggest addresses used (http://bitcoinrichlist.com/); probably a lot of paper wallet, bitcoin-qt on dedicated devices and a few brain wallets
835  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you really earn more money because you went to college? on: September 12, 2014, 09:00:55 PM
Well, education does not guarantee success in your life, like money and glory...
But it increases the chance of success...

Education is very important but most your education comes from outside the school : from your family, maybe your friends and reading

You can get a solid education via internet (https://www.edx.org/school/harvardx https://www.youtube.com/user/SchiffReport/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/stefbot/videos) nowadays; tuitions costs should go down since you don't need so many books anymore and you shouldn't need so many bad teachers when the best can be seen online but we see the opposite : the tuitions costs go up as the government regulate the sector more and more and push the prices higher with the college funds
836  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: September 12, 2014, 08:56:09 PM
Damn, one year. I hope it lasts forever. This has helped me a lot and has been the only way for me to get (about to make it) my first BTC. In my country things are fucked and I could barely get any BTC monthly from the little savings I could have. Lets hope BTC and Primedice continue to grow together towards positive results. Cheers.

I hope so to. Still Happy birthday PRIMEDICE.


I think it is the birthday of the signature campaign, not the site itself.
Yes you are right site is already more then 1 year and just this campaign complete one year here on this forum

Would be interesting to know how many BTC were paid through the campaign signature in a year, any guess? Must be more than 100
No bro you are totally wrong I sure its more then 250 because in last few months we have every time more then 30 bitcoins

Agree. During the last months of this service while many members (including me) were still in, so with much more members than nowadays, I think it was about 25 - 30 BTC per month.

That's really a lot, but I'm sure Stunna somehow gets a nice income back due to all these signatures.

Oh OK you are correct, the total must be 250-400BTC! A lot of BTC but it brought so much gambling to PD that it was a great investment
837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : *** shutting down - please withdraw your coins *** on: September 12, 2014, 08:54:52 PM
So what's the deposit address for me to invest in this just dicey thing?

The site is long closed already, so no one can invest or gamble

omg that guy is hilarious, how can you invest money in something you don't even know anything about?

It's still sad JD is gone though, the other sites are nowhere near as good, all of them have their own flaws.

So what's the deposit address for me to invest in this just dicey thing?

I have a load of Bitcoins I want to invest in just-dice too.

Can someone tell me what address to send them too pleaze?


pretty sure it's 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE

That's blind trust and no due diligence!

838  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★★★ MEMs LIST of GAMBLING SITES ★★★ on: September 12, 2014, 08:54:29 PM
The list should be updated : you can bet 40 on PD (see signature to play) and JD has shut down
839  Other / Archival / Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns on: September 12, 2014, 08:48:47 PM
so now I'm Hero, but don't find a good campain  Cry

How much do you get from your signature with the present advertisement?

PD is CLFNP closed for new participants, the list should be updated
840  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 12, 2014, 08:46:33 PM
I thought Wall Street was back from their beach vacations now. Everyone told me the price would rocket after they came home.

Did they extend their vacations? What gives?
they're not stupid

they wait for everyone to sell.

which is what i should have done... oh well.

The price was 100$ a year ago and 10$ two years ago so chill!
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