Will this order be the first batch to go through, or was there a group buy that already went 300+ before us ?
i THINK the european group hit 300 first, though if that matters i don't know. I'm taking part in that European group buy and if I have understud correctly the discussion in their thread, they haven't sent in their order yet. The operator is waiting for official announcement from friedcat taking orders. Also the operator has been asking friedcat if the devices will have CE-mark, because without that they might be seised in customs. They have collected payments for 153 devices, as can be seen here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AkRHbOmCoH9PdEdWSkJ3MDFFelFkRVdjb280TUtqRWc&gid=0...oh. well then, since we don't need the CE mark and have 429 paid for, looks like we're in the lead. yay us! course we're ALSO waiting on friedcat to make the official announcement that he's taking orders. |
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Who wants to build the first rack-mounted USB miner? :-)
... heh...well, i DO i have 429 of them coming my way... (a group buy) the real issue becomes powering them all. even with 12 port hubs, it's 35 of them. good luck finding a circuit in a home to handle that. Ya-but Arklan...you are not supposed to be powering them without the owner's permission, remember?  Based on what Luke says I'm pretty iffy about whether I want mine powered up without a heatsink. And I am pretty particular about the appropriate use of a screwdriver having been a mechanic in the distant past. I am not in a giant hurry for my particular unit (unlike most others) so i might be able to work out a side-deal with me to fiddle with mine if you can convince me that you have some ability to not immediately destroy it and some ability to replace it if you do, I'm as curious as anyone about how a 'mini-rack' of these things behave...but no-where near curious enough to blow $1500 on the experiment. Certainly not until I see if _anyone_ manages to get an order in to to the-cat and get a working miner for their troubles. e-mail me if you have interest in such an experiment and need for my single measly mining stick. that was a joke, man.  |
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The Emeralds (without a heatsink) are pretty much too hot to unplug once they've been running for even a few minutes.
I would be surprised if the USB connector got hot enough to damage some cheap USB hubs.
that could make plugging in multiple difficult, depending on hub layout.  oh well. You could just buy a couple of cheap USB 4-inch cables. This will also allow you to arrange your sticks so they dissipate heat better. Who wants to build the first rack-mounted USB miner? :-) .b true enough. heh...well, i DO i have 429 of them coming my way... (a group buy) the real issue becomes powering them all. even with 12 port hubs, it's 35 of them. good luck finding a circuit in a home to handle that. |
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wait - so, if they'll run without the heatsinks, why did you make/order heatsinks that we now have to pay for?
You definitely want the heatsink. The Emeralds (without a heatsink) are pretty much too hot to unplug once they've been running for even a few minutes. I would be surprised if the USB connector got hot enough to damage some cheap USB hubs. that could make plugging in multiple difficult, depending on hub layout. oh well. |
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Will this order be the first batch to go through, or was there a group buy that already went 300+ before us ?
i THINK the european group hit 300 first, though if that matters i don't know. |
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incontinent? whatever.
Ewww. Hope you feel better soon so you can send out our sticks! OI! that's cheating! |
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come on friedcat, accept payment...
Well, it is still another six to ten days before friedcat is expecting to receive these things from manufacturing himself. Everything I've seen so far is that ASICMiner has only accepted payment when they have goods ready to ship. A refreshing change of pace from some other companies in this market space. this is true, on all counts. doesn't mean i have to LIKE WAITING. though honestly i think i'm actually a little under the weather, so it's probably a good thing i'm not fondling stuff and sending it across the country. continent? whatever. |
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ok ok. no testing. and i'll ship the bulks out first, then everybody else. given that the bulk orders represent a little more then HALF to total orders, i don't think it'll make more then maybe one days difference what order i ship the rest in. come on friedcat, accept payment... |
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My current theory is this: Satoshi works for some three-letters government agency or massive orgnaization with extremely deep pocket, the reasons are listed below.
1. Intelligence agencies such as NSA are known to employ some of the world's best cryptographists, and the job requires you to consider every possible threat and make things bullet-proof, the kind of meticulousness we saw in the Bitcoin protocol.
2. Satoshi went to such great length to conceal his identity, because if it's made public, he may lose his job. He should have talked to his superiors about what he was doing, and since his pet project involved nothing classified, and even contains something probably useful to the intelligence work, he got a "go ahead", but on the condition that he kept his identity a secret, for obvious reasons. And needless to say, the revelation of his identity would not put Bitcoin in a good light.
3. Since these government agencies are extremely well-funded, they probably would not care too much about if their employers are always hard at work, so Satoshi got plenty of time to pursue his own ventures.
I think he's just a normal guy but with the mind of a genius. He saw bitcoins getting bigger and wanted to distance himself from it and wasn't interested in fame. He didn't want to be the one behind bitcoins, he wanted the community to fill that role which it has. or rather, he worked under government-funded projects and authority, and his honed skills and expertise through the experience culminated into what Bitcoin is today? maybe he witnessed something that made him realize how badly society needed what he created? to a point, we know the latter to be true. encoded in the genesis block is: "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks" |
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My ASICMINER USB Erupter showed up about an hour ago.
Been playing with the Icarus timing settings still not quite got it right yet.
Obviously yes I'm getting around 300MH/s out of it.
Before I jizz my pants, did they actually send these out already? Which group buy did you join? Uhm.... Too late. .b dev unit, absolutely. consumer models are blue, hence sapphire. |
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My ASICMINER USB Erupter showed up about an hour ago. Been playing with the Icarus timing settings still not quite got it right yet. Obviously yes I'm getting around 300MH/s out of it. Currently best settings are for anyone wondering while I sort it out: --icarus-options 115200:2:1 --icarus-timing short A pic or 2 Click for bigger   Edit: the USB chip is: ID 10c4:ea60 Cygnal Integrated Products, Inc. CP210x UART Bridge / myAVR mySmartUSB light kano has his dev unit. |
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guess we had them on hand, eh? |
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all of them? i did not see that coming...
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Wait so friedcat already tests everything?
so i have been told by john, who heard it from the cat himself. |
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friedcat sent only tested units.
I think testing is unnecessary. In my gb i will test some random samples.
But priority is on fast shipping
fair nuff then. i'll do that. |
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I think I would rather receive my unit untested rather than have it run under-current. I'm not an EE...which is probably part of the reason I am paranoid about these sorts of things. I'm of the same mind, I'd prefer to have it in the condition it was received in. well that's certainly fair enough. anyone else got a thought on the matter? |
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you guys won't kill me if fro mthe day i get the package to mailing it all out is 3 or 4 days, will ya? christ there's a lot of you, and a lot of chips...
That's kind of what I expected. The chips should be shipped in order of size ordered; the more chips you bought the more you are affected by delays. I ordered 20 and if I don't end up piggybacking on a group pcb build, fully expect to be shipped somewhere near last. wouldn't that go against the overnight shipping offer? or, then again, it kinda compensates for shipping later doesn't it, if you arrive sooner/ same time... hmm. Next time you run one of these (if you are not so burnt out that you'll swallow glass first), think about a policy where the shipping queue is organized based on the order in which people paid up when the call for funds went out. If I were doing one of these, I'd be tempted to see if I could leverage some automation of some sort. Google Forms comes to mind but that's only because I've seen it. There are probably other such things, or one could possible roll one's own. http://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=87809i likely will do another in the future, though we'll see. several things i'd do differently, for sure. |
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you guys won't kill me if fro mthe day i get the package to mailing it all out is 3 or 4 days, will ya? christ there's a lot of you, and a lot of chips...
That's kind of what I expected. The chips should be shipped in order of size ordered; the more chips you bought the more you are affected by delays. I ordered 20 and if I don't end up piggybacking on a group pcb build, fully expect to be shipped somewhere near last. wouldn't that go against the overnight shipping offer? or, then again, it kinda compensates for shipping later doesn't it, if you arrive sooner/ same time... hmm. I think Big Ben is talking about a different group buy. 20 chips? PCB build? I'm biased of course, but shouldn't you ship the largest orders first?  that was my intent. and he must be, since i have him down for 1. ...god i hope i didn't screw that up... |
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you guys won't kill me if fro mthe day i get the package to mailing it all out is 3 or 4 days, will ya? christ there's a lot of you, and a lot of chips...
That's kind of what I expected. The chips should be shipped in order of size ordered; the more chips you bought the more you are affected by delays. I ordered 20 and if I don't end up piggybacking on a group pcb build, fully expect to be shipped somewhere near last. wouldn't that go against the overnight shipping offer? or, then again, it kinda compensates for shipping later doesn't it, if you arrive sooner/ same time... hmm. |
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BTW, has ~friedcat mentioned anything one way or another about any QA they might do at the shop? I've not spotted it in any of his posts.
that's what we're waiting on actually. him getting the chips and testing them. ... I would not be to concerned about the chip per-se. I figure they are given some amount of testing in fab and packaging. The biggest concern I would have would be mechanical on the PCB. That reminds me, was there any discussion on how/if the heat-sink is to be included? None? Loose? Attached? i know it IS included. i assume attached, as, why not? but i also know they don't technically need them. so who knows. i could get two boxes, one full of heatsinks "no, it's not a solid block of metal! honest!" and one full of usb sticks. |
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