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1761  Other / Off-topic / Re: How did you discover bitcoin? on: November 17, 2016, 01:04:35 PM
I discovered bitcoins because I always lurk around the internet and I really really want to earn money online back then. As a student, the greatest position to have in life for me was to earn money while studying. It teaches us to discipline ourselves, manage our time, and enhances our thinking when it comes to planning hectic schedules.

I might have searched "How to earn money online" more than 20 times before I finally found something that really pays. Most that I've been on was paying using Paypal but there are also people talking about bitcoin. I wasn't interested back then because I thought it was a scam and I'm too lazy to read articles since I'm already earning some money. Eventually, I had time to burn and so I searched bitcoins and that's how it all started.
1762  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does bitcoin help your life in daily needs? on: November 17, 2016, 12:47:14 PM
I guess it does. Even when I can't use bitcoins to buy something in real life, there's an exchanger for bitcoin that allows us to transfer our bitcoins to our bank accounts in fiat form. I use that money to buy groceries and other daily needs.

It's okay that we have to put it in a bank first and not use bitcoins directly because after all, we don't buy groceries every single day. We don't buy enough coffee powder just for one day, enough bread for one day, etc. and then buy again that very same quantity the next day. We buy the things we need every week or 2 weeks. It's not that hard to convert your bitcoins into fiat every week or so.
1763  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: November 17, 2016, 12:07:27 PM
Well, in general, if you have around 1 btc and make small purchases around 40$, you are very likely to get them back because of price changes. As for holding btc for a long time... It is risky, because one day it can just crash and all your money won't really be money anymore. And we shouldn't forget that along with the price growing goes the inflation of $, so the profit might be not very big.
One day it might start to crash but it'll not have zero value in a very quick period of time. People have invested millions of dollars in bitcoin and that's enough proof that the majority of people would prevent getting bitcoin get dumped more and more. But let's just say that for some reason, people start dumping their bitcoins. It'll not be zero balance quickly, it'll take days/weeks of dumping. You will have enough time to sell your coins at a somehow reasonable price.
1764  Other / Off-topic / Re: Who controls the Bitcoins? on: November 17, 2016, 11:49:34 AM
I think the controller of bitcoin is the goverment , or the operator nationwide. Cheesy  Grin Wink Smiley
If you really think that is true, then you should do some research. Bitcoin is fully anonymous and no one can control the network since it's decentralized. The government can't control the network. There's no "operator" nationwide since every one is just using the same bitcoin network. Or perhaps you were referring to online exchanger. If so, then they don't have any control over bitcoin. They just convert your bitcoins into fiat and vice versa.
1765  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin was made illegal by your government would you still use it? on: November 17, 2016, 01:54:15 AM
yea i will, because my government is not smart therefore i won't listen to him xd
Apparently no matter how dumb your government is, anyone can still sue you if they find you doing something illegal. You will still be in jail when someone reports you. Your president isn't the one judging in the court room, it would be a different set of people. Nevertheless, it's quite easy to hide your identity anyway so no worries as long as no one catches you in the act and takes a photo of you.
1766  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: November 17, 2016, 01:26:17 AM
Carrying paper money around is quite irritating, as well as risky. I believe that in the near future, paper currency will be completely replaced with mobile payment options. This mobile payment option can be Bitcoin, or some other currency.
That's why you don't see millionaires carrying a million dollars in their wallet. I bet you won't be irritated when you just carry small amount of money (e.g. 100$) in your wallet. And for the very same reason, that's why people put their money in a bank or in a vault. If you do live in a first world country, they just swipe your credit card in the credit card reader that they put in their smartphones. Maybe that would solve your problem about being irritated carrying paper money.
1767  Economy / Speculation / Re: I will not Die Untill Bitcoin will reach at Least 50K on: November 17, 2016, 01:04:00 AM
The theory behind a $50k Bitcoin is that the USD will become so inflated, that eventually Bitcoin will be worth a five digit figure in USD. When this happens, another currency would replace the USD, I speculate it to be gold.

However, I am quite sure that the USD will be dumped long before this happens, because that is what happened with the Zimbabwean dollar.


I don't think it would be gold. Gold is too valuable to become a currency. USD has an equivalent of 0.50$ which is a coin. In gold, it would just be a little pieces of gold dusts. It would be hard to count those and weigh small pieces of gold. Maybe if people are transacting big amounts of money, then gold can be used as a currency-like depending on its present value.
1768  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do you buy Bitcoins? on: November 16, 2016, 11:43:39 AM
I don't have that much extra money I don't buy bitcoins but if I would, there would be valid reasons why. (a.) There's a good investment in an altcoin and I don't have bitcoins in my wallet. (b.) I decided to get serious with bitcoins and invest in it much more. Years from now, that money will surely double/triple. (c.) I have to buy something that can only be bought using bitcoins and my bitcoins aren't enough.
1769  Other / Off-topic / Re: How would you help with bitcoin? on: November 15, 2016, 08:12:28 AM
If you had a lot of money or Bitcoins how would you help Bitcoin/ Bitcoin community/Bitcoin awareness?

For me, maybe i can help through teaching people about bitcoin. After they get educated i will let them borrow my extra bitcoin so that they can start engaging to any investment,trading or anything that will lead them to earn more. By that way im glad enough that i helped people to earn money by consuming their extra time.
I wonder how many people are you going to help and how much money are you going to give them. I just don't think letting people borrow your bitcoins is a good idea. They can propose a project with you that requires a huge amount of money and then just disappear the next day. You wouldn't be able to take the money back since you can't cancel bitcoin transactions. I believe that everybody has fiat money and if they sincerely want to be involved in bitcoin business, they will use their own money as a capital.
1770  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: November 15, 2016, 07:37:33 AM
After reading the previous comments and thinking of a good investment, I realized something. There's actually a pattern or equation (if you will) when investing. Safe (less risky) investments give you small profits and are good in the long run. Risky investments give you good amount of profits but you should withdraw your money right after making a reasonable amount of profit.

That's like:
Risk = Return
Small risk = small return
Bigger risk = bigger return
1771  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to be a good bitcoin investor to prevent scammed on: November 15, 2016, 07:12:20 AM
I do not recommend these sites, but let us be realistic, why there are tens of HYIP pop up every day? If no one is investing, there won't be new sites or at least the number should decrease. I think this kind of sites has a lot of fans who like easy money and always search for new sites to catch the opportunity, even though early investors might lose their money in some cases.
Because HYIPs is the pastest way to double your in just 10 days. How do you get that kind of interest it is only for HYIPs.
If you have a 1 bitcoin then you hold it for a week, for a month, or for a year with no action, 1 bitcoin is always 1 bitcoin if no action apply.
And if you have 1 bitcoin then you invest with smarter and wiser way, I promise you it will double your bitcoin. Therefore, there is no impossible for that if you always think positive on it with faith.
To the first quote:
I'd say the reason why there are new HYIPs every day is because a lot of people knows how to make one and I'm sure that there are HYIP owners that goes with different company names and have numerous amount of HYIP sites. There's not that much skill involved when creating one since there are people selling website templates for HYIP sites. You can also hire a web designer if you don't want to make it yourself.

Second quote:
I also do believe that you can easily double your money in HYIP if ONLY THEY WOULD PAY. That is the problem there. You create these illusions that your money will grow and grow by investing in HYIP sites and they want you to believe that. But look at the actual situation and ask yourself, how can you double your money when in the first time that you invest your money, your coins are already gone?

TL;DR: HYIP sites give you the illusion of growing your money, thus, making you invest in their website.

Investing in HYIP site and hoping to double your money is like throwing your money into the fire and hoping that the ashes would turn out to be double the amount of money that you've burnt.
1772  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin transactions - Slow OR Fast on: November 15, 2016, 06:55:20 AM
Even when there are times when a single bitcoin transaction takes days before receiving, I don't think the word "slow" would still be appropriate. Just appreciate the whole sending money to abroad thing. Imagine doing it manually, it would take you days too but it would cost you a lot of money, time, and energy. Be grateful that the bitcoin network is there for you to send money anywhere in the world. Most of the time, it only takes 10 minutes for you to receive your coins anyway.
1773  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud mining that real mining? on: November 15, 2016, 06:20:49 AM
I want to know, where I can find best cloud mining that real mining? I tried googling but i only got referral programs.
Most cloud mining aren't real, there are also cloud mining sites that actually have mining equipment. Cloud mining sites usually pretend that they do have equipment so their customer would think that they are legit and invest in them. But in reality, they are nothing but a ponzi website.

Legit cloud mining sites, on the other hand, would take a lot of time before you get your ROI. If I were you, I would look for a different source of income. Investing in a website is just not worth your time and money (even if it's better to invest than simply let your money sit there, nah. Still not worth it if you ask me).
1774  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the minimum amount to start as a trader? on: November 13, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
I think knowledge and experience are actually the capital in trading and your earnings will not always depend on how much money you put into it. As long as you can buy 3-5 different altcoins, you can start trading. It's not that much of a capital. They always say to start small if you want to succeed at something and I think that's applicable in trading too. Start small and once you're experienced enough, you can start risking greater amount of money.
1775  Economy / Economics / Re: USD vs BTC on: November 13, 2016, 11:29:36 AM
If Dollar dies, everything dies. Simple as that.

Simple Logic: If bitcoin was better than Dollars, why does everyone freak out when we see a crash? If bitcoin was that good, you wouldn't give a fuck about the price drops right?
simple but correct answers from you because i could not imagine if someday dollar crash or even dies that will have bad effect to the most of countries in this world but if bitcoin dies or dropped there is no bad influence for the countries but crash price for bitcoin only have bad effect for bitcoin users that's why bitcoin will never beat dollar 
The only ones that are freaking out when the price of bitcoin goes down are those people that are too excited to get their profits, too nervous that bitcoin will continue going down and those people that aren't willing to wait for a long time. I think they are still in the newbie phase and they most probably do panic selling when the price of bitcoin starts to drop.

People that don't say anything about the price of bitcoin and simply watches the chart instead are those people that have learned their lesson -- freaking out doesn't help and the price of bitcoin will eventually get up.
1776  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Online games that can earn bitcoin? on: November 13, 2016, 11:18:29 AM
I do not know or even hear about any online games which can help people to earn Bitcoin. Instead of finding this kind of game, I think you should open your online streaming on Twitch or Youtube. If you are a professional player or an interesting player, people will be attracted and you may earn money from viewers. And if you are famous enough, people will contact you to advertise things on your stream or video and they will pay for you if you accept to advertise their stuff
I've been watching a lot of streams and only those popular people gets some actual earning. Those people that are just starting and are entertaining enough to watch usually just gets a couple of dollars after hours of watching.

On the other hand, people that are famous on youtube are getting ridiculous amounts of donation. For example, there's a video where MojoOnPC (check out his channel) got a total of 20,000 dollars (IIRC) just from a single person that just wants to show off. So if you're pretty average when playing and you're kind of boring to watch, you wouldn't get donations by streaming at all.
1777  Economy / Economics / Re: The Future of Money? on: November 13, 2016, 11:08:49 AM
Most likely everything will be digital in the future so paper money will disappear and everything also in real stores will be payed with digital money, we all will have our phone for it or a simple card.


i agree with you buddy. time will come that all of us will use cryptocurrency in our economy so that we can prevent losing of our trees in our world just to create paper money. soon our government will make this choice. I'm thinking too that if we use btc in our everyday use its much easier than pulling a money into your pocket we can prevent those snatchers that stealing our money you know what i mean ? with btc we can change the world so This is our future money .
A simple card? That's basically ATM card and the app on the phone that you're looking for is Paypal/bitcoin wallet. That's not the future at all since that's the present but we still use the paper money more than we use our card and our bitcoin wallets combined.

The only flaw of using our phone for payments is it would become more shiny in the eyes of criminals. They'll get your phone + they'll get your bitcoin wallet. Even though there's a security code, they can still sell your phone.
1778  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What places do you do your shopping online? on: November 13, 2016, 10:57:40 AM
There's no online shop that accepts bitcoin available in my country. I shop at Zalora for clothing and Lazada for all the other stuffs. They don't accept bitcoins at the moment so I have to convert my bitcoins first and then use my paypal funds. It also takes a week before I receive the item but it's okay. I sometimes buy on eBay as well because there's a lot of things that aren't sold in Lazada. It takes a month to receive the item and I have to use my paypal funds as well. I haven't tried other online shops except for these 3.
1779  Economy / Economics / Re: How good are you at managing your money on: November 12, 2016, 08:39:36 AM
this time I was not good in managing money that I have. I needs are always changing every time, because I was a student, but I keep trying different ways that I can arrange my financial to date, although it is still less successful
Students generally carefree life because there is no family and no children with his wife who constantly need different things. And if a house that is in need of investment, then all the money as lost from his pocket.
Even though a student doesn't have a family to feed, it's actually pretty hard to survive in college. The expenses are so much. Most college students work at night so they can pay their rent. I don't think buying a house is a good investment since you'll most probably move into another place once you graduate. Renting bed spaces is enough since you only need a place to sleep, take a bath, and eat. You don't need one whole house.
Depends on what school are you going for your college, if you go to an expensive school then you will really have a problem with that. You have to live within your means, you can study and a cheaper school while still getting the right knowledge as required.
In first world countries, there's no cheap school at all. Students are doomed to get student loans and pay for it continuously years after they graduate. In third world countries, even if the price of studying in college is much less, it would still be hard because it's harder to get money in those areas. I guess this is the reason why people prefer to not go in college at all and just develop their skills all by themselves even though having a degree is really important in getting a day job.
1780  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you always missed the right time to sell/buy bitcoin? on: November 12, 2016, 08:27:11 AM
Yes, I do. The reason for this is because I always doubt my decision. I always want to sell at the highest price possible, but there's no way for us to determine that. If I sell right now, what if tomorrow the price becomes higher. Same goes when buying, if you buy now, maybe tomorrow has a better price. That's why at the end of the day, I end up not doing anything at all with my bitcoins. I guess I would just hold my coins for a while.
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