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1801  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: October 27, 2023, 06:26:45 AM

Liverpool will top Group E as predicted earlier. Liverpool is a strong team. The other teams in Group E are not strong. But Liverpool team is in very good form now. Not only in the Europa League, the team is also able to perform very well in the Premier League. The Liverpool team is now only 1 point behind City and Arsenal in the Europa League. They have been able to maintain the consistency of performance. Liverpool's attack in particular is very strong now. If able to maintain consistency like this, then Liverpool team will continue to fight for winning two titles in Europa League and Premier League.
Liverpool is a team of the Champions League level, and it is clear that it is easy for them to play in the EL, this is a tournament not of their level. If we evaluate it objectively, I believe that they are the main contenders for the title in this tournament, but the only question is how much EL can become a priority for them at some decisive moments. I am sure that if necessary, Klopp will give priority to the Premier League, but it seems to me that I am getting too ahead of myself, so far there is no such situation, and we can say with confidence, that Liverpool will play in playoffs.

Liverpool so far together with Bayer Leverkussen are the teams in the best form at the moment,of course Liverpool had a stronger opponent than Bayer yesterday night and they crashed it without many problems.I am sure Liverpool has the quality and the potential to fight in both fronts,they are not far away in the Premier League and in Europa League so far they are one of the teams who is already qualified further as they have won at least 2 games in the group and chances are high they will beat Royal Union too in the next round.
1802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: October 26, 2023, 06:39:18 PM
If people did not make money with over goals and both teams to score during the games of today then I don't know what to say except that they have chosen the wrong type of bet if they opted for some other type of bet.I have still many bets in play but I think I won two parlays with over 10 as odd one of them and that is great as an achievement,I only was low on money so the amount bet on such tickets was low but I am happy and I am sharing these two bets with you guys here.

https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A109794300&modal=bet
https://stake.com/sports/home?iid=sport%3A109794852&modal=bet
1803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 26, 2023, 02:19:38 PM
Dortmund is surprising me the more time passes,I thought they would never recover from that lost title last season in the last game when they could not win it at home.Now though they have been doing really well in the Bundesliga and yesterday night I choose to watch Newcastle vs Dortmund game as for me it was the most beautiful to watch from the Champions games,it turned out to be really intense and beautiful,Dortmund after scoring got back in defense but when they were in counterattack they had a lot of missed chances to end the game even more than 0-1 which they won and now are in the fight again not only on Bundesliga,also in the Champions League.
1804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: October 26, 2023, 01:50:36 PM
Being consistent is good, but it definitely won't lead to the top - since the number of participants is large, someone will be lucky enough to guess several unlikely results with big odds. Personally, I'll only bet on unlikely outcomes from now on - I forgot to use my 10 points last round and now feel like I'm way behind, so I need to bet heavily.

I'm surprised myself that the King of backing the underdogs is advicing us against it now. buwaytress when did you start believing in consistency?

Perhaps in a bid to fool everyone else into thinking this is the way to go? And by the looks of it, plenty of all-ins on "safe" teams lost last night. I thought I was pissed at Atletico but Trofo had 10 points on them hahaha.

I caught some good points with BVB (finally repaying my trust in them). Too bad it was only 4/1 when I made the form. Last night you could snatch 6/1 pre-kickoff...

I made a bold bet on the Young Boys  Grin
And after they equalized I thought “hmm... maybe this makes sense”, unfortunately Haaland dashed that hope. It probably makes no sense to bet on Young Boys winning the return game (even taking into account the fact that the odds will be huge)?
Since I have already received zero points in two rounds, I am forced to continue looking for risky bets and go all-in.

I think there is still time to try a more conservative approach which are 2 options and they are 1st to find a game you are fully convinced it will hit and hopefully the odds will be 1.5 or higher to stake everything for them or 2nd you divide 10 points in four 2.5 points stakes and place them on odds over 2 and 1 of them you can also spend on that Young Boys huge odds  Grin.

Keep in mind though that if you go for such type of bets and go all in you just need another lost bet and you are definitely out of the prize spots unless you hit consecutive underdogs (highly unlikely).
1805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: October 26, 2023, 12:50:50 PM
I performed very poorly for Pot B. Not even three points, I managed to collect... Embarrassed

Well, I'm going to have to risk more next week, to try to win something more significant.

I am assuming you tried to hit good odds since you didn't manage to get even 3 points from this week and it is true that you have to risk it next week to try to hit an underdog which would bring you back on track.However I would suggest the same strategy I am applying,hitting all the 10 points staked at the game I have more faith to come true,for example in these last 2 match days I have gone for Inter at 1.8 at home and Tuesday for Real to win away with 1.5 odd.It may look like it is more difficult this way but for me it is better to be consistent till the end and hope for the best,trying to hit big odds if missed once or twice you are out of the prize spots so it is very dangerous as strategy.
1806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: October 26, 2023, 12:36:28 PM
Brighton so far at home has a really bad run as they lost to a Greek team and the difference of the leagues,of Greece Superleague and Premier League have a tremendous difference between them which is clearly in favor of the Premier League yet in the field it appeared otherwise.Even at that game the odd of Brighton were 1.29 or something along those lines,the same as now where they have 1.32 against one of the teams that has a lot of experience in Europe despite them not being in top form so far and suffering they can create a big surprise in tonight game.I have refrained from betting on money line,I know this will be a both teams to score yes game.
1807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 26, 2023, 11:39:00 AM
After seeing the first goal scored against Milan yesterday night in Champions League from Mbappe,what a freakin wonderful move that was and in Ligue 1 as long as they have Mbappe in their team it is just a matter of time before they get the lead and they don't give it back anymore,I am fully convinced now while when I saw them playing not well in the beginning of the league I thought maybe it will be very difficult for them to win this year too yet after seeing that super impressive goal from yesterday night I have no doubts Paris will win the league this year too.
1808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 26, 2023, 11:07:05 AM
if martin can reach the podium in buriram, it might be difficult for bagnaia to achieve his world title. even though many people tend to favor bagnaia, we cannot rule out the factors that could make martin take first place from bagnaia. martin also no longer wanted to "gamble" and changed his strategy to play safer than before. the problem with his tires might be that they are adjusted to his opponent's tires and that might be quite difficult for bagnaia. well, we can see how the battle between these two will be very exciting to watch.
Jorge Martin will continue to adapt whatever he uses to what riders from the Ducati factory use in order to continue to compete with the defending champion, Bagnaia. Because Jorge Martin still hasn't given up on continuing to hunt for the 2023 MotoGP world title this season, but based on the distance of points that Bagnaia has so far, Bagnaia only needs to win one of the main races and one of the sprint races. The rest, Bagnaia just has to keep trying to reach the second podium in order to secure his championship this season, so the pressure is now on Jorge Martin.

This puts all the pressure to Jorge Martin who has got nothing to lose if he tries as hard as possible but chances are not at all on his side.Nevertheless the racing and MotoGP is a sport where you cannot predict anything,any crash from Bagnaia and a win from Martin in this upcoming race for example it change the situation dramatically making both drivers near on equal points and thus giving each of them a chance to win the title,this in theory.

In practice I doubt Bagnaia will push that hard as he knows one crash can risk this second title which would be a huge achievement for him personally so I don't think he will push it that hard,he will be happy with second places.
1809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: October 26, 2023, 10:17:18 AM


Compared to Leverkusen and Liverpool, Liverpool will definitely be ahead because the English Premier League teams are stronger than the bundesliga teams and Liverpool have performed well against those stronger teams.

I think we should be making this comparison between Liverpool and As Roma rather than Leverkusen because for As Roma to win the Europa conference league during the 2021/2022 season means they can be very competitive in their Europa league campaign this season.

Liverpool is a great club with lots of talented young players and I believe they gonna go far in the Europa competition though the league is still young and may not really be predicted at the early stage.
Roma's result in Serie A isn't that impressive actually and their direct opponent is Slavia Praha. Not sure if they can beat them since they are pretty unstable in terms of results but they can at worst goes through play-offs.. Same for Marseille, I cannot expect much from them, except that their group is harder than Roma and dropping points means they will leave the competition.
For Liverpool, I think they will beat Toulouse and run alone in the group stage. Same situation for Leverkusen, I believe they could win without problem vs Qarabag.

We can't just compare Roma results in Serie A with a team playing Czech Fortuna Liga as the difference in quality between these leagues is quite big in my opinion.The bookies are trying to deceive us as the always do with the 1.70 odd of Roma while they are playing at home,they are normally a better team as they play in a better league and chances for them to win tonight are quite big so I did include them in some parlays of mine for the bets of today.

Leverkussen is in top form in Germany and I doubt a team from Azerbaijan no matter how good they may be to be able to stop such performing Leverkussen which is playing in their home field.
1810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 26, 2023, 09:24:41 AM
Chelsea have indeed experienced a lot of improvement after a series of bad results they got at the start of the season, and the draw against Arsenal in the last match is quite clear proof that the Chelsea team is now stronger.
But, for Manchester United, I think they are still not completely out of the problems they are facing now, even though they are slowly getting positive results, but in terms of performance, the Manchester United team has not yet recovered.

-snip
Manchester united and Chelsea have suffered this season due to injuries and inconsistency in league games. They're unable to meet the high competitive standards of EPL but they are actually trying to recover, this is good news for these teams supporters. I'm a Chelsea fan and I'm more concern about the current status of my club. Chelsea performance is all we need to have to possess confidence in Mauricio Pochettino. The Blues have bounce back quickly and this time they're not relenting, always striving for better results and aim at reaching essential positions this season.


They would be bouncing even better if it were not for that real bad mistake of the goalkeeper which gave Arsenal a reason to continue to fight and in the end they got the equalizer which before that mistake seemed impossible.Nevertheless the touch of the coach is starting to be felt for the Chelsea team and I think overall in the near/mid/long term they will be even better and keep constantly improving themselves.Injuries will start to clear out and the form of the team will become better and better and I expect them to finish in an European competition spot in the end of the league.
1811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Gambling Generally An Illicit Activity? on: October 26, 2023, 08:32:32 AM
That depends only on the constitution of different countries,in dictatorships you will see that almost everything is forbidden including gambling while in Western democracies is like it should be,everything should be available and legally regulated and then it depends only on the individuals if they want to do it or not,simple choice.

As for money laundering sure it can be used to do just that but there are a whole lot more better alternatives to money laundering than gambling,gambling is risky and you are not in control of your money in theory at least as the casino manages your balance,for any reason may be problems,where I live they say there is no better way to money laundering than real estate and construction.
1812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: He Used Our Wedding Savings to Play Bet on: October 26, 2023, 08:14:03 AM
I want to only talk about the comic part although for many people there is nothing comic in here,yet the lady didn't she knew that her fiance was a gambler and out of a gambler what can you expect when the hardest form of addiction hits you,you will find any remote possibility to get money to bet and to feed your burning desire to gamble.

The fact that he wanted to double his money is a clear indication that this guy is definitely addicted as only addicted people do not think much about consequences as they are only focused on doubling their money whatever the amount they bet for them is irrelevant.
1813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: October 26, 2023, 07:43:19 AM
Pool A is so so tight, anybody can go top next week but jeremypwr managed to keep his first place after last night games. At least those of us below half table still have a lot of chances.

slaman29 still decides to risk it, not what I expected. With his total I would have gone with some safer choices. If he keeps on betting on United to lose, he'll eventually hit one of these big odds again Grin

Hey can you blame me lol to be honest I was totally thinking for semi safe points to put 8 stakes on Atletico as they are the best playing team in La Liga even though Real Madrid win I say reliance on Bellingham and me Barca too much on youngsters but Atletico the most rounded.

If I did that, I would still get 0 points Tongue

I wanted at a certain time to put all in at Porto but the odd was what stopped me,the bookies managed to deceive me for the thousand time with their not so logical odds  Grin.I don't complain though,I like having 51 points in total with 3 match days played and I am sure continuing with this type of choice,going for a safer bet and betting all in if happens to hit it right until the end I assume I will end in a paying spots.

For the next match day though I am playing 4 stakes from 2.5 points each on odds well over 2 and see how it goes,may be it brings me more but it is a whole lot more difficult to achieve than betting everything on one game.
1814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: October 26, 2023, 06:55:32 AM
By the way there has been a really big rate of drop in Alonso's performance for quite many races. Until Zandvoort GP he got 7 podiums in 14 races. This is a really magnificent performance. Aston Martin made a huge progress with big updates on the car in the first times of the season.

However after leaving the first half of the season behind Aston Martin started to fall behind a lot. Alonso's best ranking was 6th place in the last 5 races. Aston Martin also admitted that their simulation data misled them on this road.

Still I really admire Alonso as he is really carrying the team by himself in the standings.  Smiley

Absolutely true,Stroll I don't know what he does racing in F1 as clearly this is not his passion at all otherwise with that car in the early part of the season at least he should have done similarly well to Alonso,not quite well as Alonso as he lacks experience but similarly he should had done.

In this second part of the season Stroll has been really weak in every official qualifying and also in every race that followed,I think he only got into points in these last race because of Alonso failure and 2 disqualifications that happened to drivers in front of him.
1815  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: October 26, 2023, 06:21:13 AM
If you wanna see bad luck in action go and watch the replay of the second half of Newcastle game yesterday night,wow still cannot believe that the ball didn't enter the net after that much attacking,it was also the only surprise result for me of the night.

On the pool though it is funny I am 27th place and am 10 points away from first place showing how tight this is,for this week I did really bad as I lost 6 positions and haven't checked where I am in the Pot B yet.
1816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 25, 2023, 09:01:30 PM
I never thought I would see the real worse/bad/curse luck on real time but I saw it tonight in Newcastle game,two clamorous occasions from their main attacker Wilson,one post also from him another post and come out of the goal in this second half I could not believe my eyes that Newcastle was not able to score a single goal at home while they have scored a lot of goals during this Champions League season,wow still cannot believe this bad luck that hit Newcastle during this second half and I would add if this was not enough the referee made clamorous mistakes too to curse Newcastle even further,one clear foul was in front of him when a Dortmund player took from the shorts Wilson and he didn't gave it,wtf are these ridiculous referees in the Champions League.
1817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you a Top-down or Bottom-up bettor? on: October 25, 2023, 07:54:24 PM
The two methods in sports betting which most of use but are not aware of are the top-down or bottom-up betting method. In top-down betting you find a reliable source of information which is often sharp sportsbooks and look for better odds elsewhere which creates positive expected value bets. The advantages of top-down betting is that those who have used it have a proven track record of success, and with it, you only need minimal sports domain knowledge. The only disadvantages I have seen with this method is that it can be time-intensive and may lead to limitations with certain sportsbooks. In bottom-up betting method, you form your own opinion about the odds by building models or using qualitative insights and tools, which can be particularly useful in less efficient or derivative markets. The advantage of this betting method is that the bettor has a greater control over their analysis, it is suitable for inefficient markets. However, it can require more resources, domain knowledge, and may be harder to quantify the edge. I think most punters are bottom-up bettor. So which are you, a top-down or bottom-up bettor?

Since it is a long time I don't consult any tipping site or predictions site which I used to back in the days I guess I am a bottom-up bettor as I only believe my insights that I have about each game.In Champions League I have a 4 games parlay in both teams to score,Lazio and Celting came true while I wait Newcastle and Porto which I believe have high chances of coming true,I have also another parlay with 4 other choices that are over 2.5 goals and usually this is what I bet not only in Champions League but every where I play.So far I am happy for the overall results that I am getting,winning about 2-4 bets with odds over 10 in total during the week brings me profit,so yeah I am a bottom-up bettor based on your description.
1818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dangerous chasing losses on: October 25, 2023, 06:43:26 PM
It is very difficult to not chase loses at first time,it takes experience like that James Franco meme here described it extremely well so it will be learned with the passing of time.It is not easy as I said as I apply this logic,from the money I intend to deposit to play I think what other can I do with them and this leads me to only deposit 20% of the original amount and the other I use for other purposes,this makes me not care much if I lose or win and it is one of the best strategies to not chase loses.Yesterday I played Wild West Duel from Pragmatic and kept buying the Beer Game bonus which was generous at first and then greed got me and choose Lost Relic bonus,high cost 400x bet compared to x100 of Beer Game and lost it all in an instant,yet I did not chase this type of loss as I only played a small amount.This can be applied by anyone else.
1819  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Just like visiting a cinema on: October 25, 2023, 02:00:30 PM
This have been discussed few times before and someone have to do it again maybe often, for those of you looking to become a gambler what is your motives behind it? To make money? Or to have some fun? Here is my advice to everyone of you.

Why not treat casinos the same ways like you are going to the movies or bowling? You are simply paying for the experience and the entertainment, it's either you enjoy it or you may not, can you feel me? You don't know how bad a movie can be until you watched it, so....

Casinos, either online or offline, isn't a place to win money for the 99% of people, but this same group of people want to confused or already confused themselves that they can make money gambling, this isn't the proper way. It's meant to be for fun and not so serious like your life depends on it.

If you want your life to goes on with ease, learn to be a fun gambler and not too dependent on gambling, this is what gets people f**ked, the reality of gambling is you win when it's not even expected, be a responsible gambler.

That is true but once you watch a movie that you like you go on searching for other movies to watch and the same analogy applies to this type of gambling you are inviting to which is great but it can never remain only fun.The reason being very simple,once you win out of nowhere you want more as the greed is deep in our roots as humans,we are created greedy and if we have a castle we want another and so on until death is upon us,we spend our life trying to improve it forgetting that the end is the same.With this I don't want to add pessimism to our already boring lives in some cases but to stop treating gambling as fun as no matter it starts as fun it can never remain that way.
1820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is the cash-out feature only available in sports bets? on: October 25, 2023, 01:33:45 PM
In house games are with instant result so why do you need a cash out feature there,you have full control in such games and not only them but including other fast games like slot machines,dice,roulette plus all other related type of games.That is why most casinos offer the cash out feature only for sport bets most of the time as people may place a bet that span a complete week for example,they can bet a ticket starting today for example at 25th October and place games that end 31 October,this means that in the middle of the games for example the person wants to stop such bet and cash out and that is why this feature was implemented in the first place.
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