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2621  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: July 14, 2023, 06:54:49 AM
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It's called beginners luck. Some believe in it some don't. It's when a beginner doesn't know the game and what the rules are but decides to place a bet. There is no logical explanation, but most of the times, bets placed by those beginners wins, most of the times. This is why it's called beginners luck.

I think this was true in the early stages,when gambling had not much choices and the sport betting was the most well known played game,back then of course when a beginner placed a bet most of the times he won it and as you said there is no logical explanation to this.Nowadays though where slot machines are the most well known and the most played games in a casino then you go and get busted even if you are a beginner.

In lottery though everyone has an equal chance to win it and it is based purely on luck and complete randomness,there is no real probability and possibility,you can buy 10.000 lottery tickets and don't win anything and some other guy who buys just one ticket wins the lottery.
2622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wagering requirements for withdraw on: July 14, 2023, 06:31:55 AM
By the way, wagering is not a big deal for routine gamblers because they usually will keep on gambling until they are out of balance. If someone is not looking to gamble, he or she should not deposit in a casino.

It is a big deal if the wagering requirement is above normal, not all gamblers will keep on betting especially if they are on profit unless you are referring to greedy and addicted gamblers who will not stop and withdraw their profit because they think the profit is still not enough. Imagine if you experience it yourself when you make deposit and hit a decent win after you wager 1-2x of your deposit but you cant withdraw your money because the wagering requirement for your deposit is lets say 5x.

Most gamblers should know that the bonus in wagering requirements should be high,that is a bait from the casino to keep us playing.While that would be a very bad situation winning it big and not being able to withdraw because of wagering requirements you should know that in most reputable casinos every bet counts toward getting better VIP levels or tiers so keep playing there and even if you lose that amount trying to fulfill the wagering requirement you got a side benefit as you leveled up because of that.
2623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: July 13, 2023, 08:45:39 PM
Just go and check the results of tennis today,Europa Conference League,Champions League preliminaries some days ago and you will see a lot of surprise results.These surprise results are common since the gambling and betting on sports started,back in the days of Pele,Kroif and many other legendary players we did not see such surprise results this common and this often.This does not mean that football is better today,in fact completely the opposite,football because of gambling companies interfering some times by bribing the players of a team or a president of the team,makes gambling absolutely a not so steady income,maybe in the past you could do well with sport betting but right now it is impossible.
2624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 13, 2023, 08:28:17 PM
~snip~
Manchester United have lost quite a number of their mainstay players from time to time and now is the time for Ten Hag to be to restore the strength of Manchester United.
A pretty good debut for Mount. The 2-0 win certainly made Man United happy because many young players were displayed by Ten Hag. Although Mount didn't score, he played pretty well. Although he only played 45 minutes, he was able to immediately adapt to Man United's style of play. Although Leeds is not a strong team, but Man United at least have the opportunity to try some young players. This result does not illustrate the strength of Man United, they still do not play in full team condition.

As long as Manchester shows good game play it means it works as a team and when a player like Mount can become used to the team game play so fast it is only better for Manchester United.These games of course does not show the true power and colors of the team as they have to play against a team of their level like Liverpool,Arsenal or Manchester City to see where they are in terms of performance.The good thing is that the Premier League is starting in just one month and it is great to see teams buying players and improving themselves compared to last season,so we can see an even more better Premier League action in this upcoming season.
2625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: July 13, 2023, 08:07:55 PM
Marko who is one of the heads at redbull released an interview saying:

Devris is 3/10 slower than tzunoda per lap, there is no point in waiting more for him.


I suppose they learned nothing form the case of Albon.

Marko is just very impatient and harsh on drivers. Albon was a really talented driver but he didn't want to wait for a longer time period to give him a chance. Now Albon is doing incredible things with Williams. I even read some news related to this topic today. It says that Albon was offered to return to Red Bull but he rejected it as he was believing in Williams' development and future. I think he made the right decision if this really happened. Because I believe he was going to end up with the same result again most probably.

De Vries didn't have enough time to get used to F1 either. We are barely halfway the season. For example Piastri also started to shine newly. McLaren didn't sack him because of being much slower than Norris in most of the races so far. I recommend the same thing to Marko.  Smiley

I agree with Albon,the fact that both Williams were near the points zone with Albon being there in a so tight run season means that Williams finally is coming out from their lethargic slumber as they are not winning races since the golden age of Ralf Schumacher and Huan Pablo Montoya if I am not mistaken and these guys were racing 2002-2005,more than 20 years from now considering 2002.

McLaren is very much well known for this,they give the driver the right amount of time and the right amount of races before determining that he needs to be sacked,of course Piastri had not that many races and he is a rookie too but the McLaren team is run in this context by better people than Marko.
2626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Signs that indicate you are not addicted to gambling on: July 13, 2023, 06:32:42 PM
Today, let's shift our focus and discuss something different instead of constantly addressing gambling addiction. So, I've decided to bring up a new topic: signs that indicate you are not addicted to gambling. Let's explore it.

Here are some indicators that demonstrate a lack of gambling addiction:

  • Absence of Gambling Preoccupation
    Do you don't find yourself constantly thinking over recent gambling losses. You do not get lost daydreaming of past wins. Your day is not spent thinking about gambling, or constantly laying plans on your next bet. You do not schemes ways to get more money to gamble with.
  • Stable Tolerance
    You do not need to gamble larger amounts to feel the same level of thrill.  You are satisfied with regular bets and low stakes.  You do not pursue bigger wins, higher stakes, high gambling risks to feel "high" or happy.
  • No Withdrawal Symptoms
    When stop gambling, you do not feel restless or irritable. When you are not gambling, you are having feelings of depression or anxiety. For you gambling more like hobby, something you do for fun.
  • Non-Escape Mechanism
    You are facing your problems and challenges head-on without turning to gambling forget about them. When you experience stress, or any negative emotions, gambling is not used as a mechanism for coping.
  • Lack of Loss Chasing
    When you lose, you do not attempt to bet more and more, with the mindset of winning back what you’ve lost. Rather you "leave" to bet another day.
  • Honest and Accountable Behavior
    You are opened about your gambling behaviour and how much you have either won or lost while gambling. You see no reason to lie about it. Your family and friends know about how you gamble because you have made accountable to it.
  • Unaffected Relationships and Opportunities
    Your life, career, relationships are in order. They are not being negatively affected by your gambling habits. You met you work target and deadlines, your education is not neglected, and you haven't lost any financial opportunities as a result of gambling.
  • Financial Independence
    You have not ran into debts because of your gambling. Neither do you rely on other people for financial support. You haven't engaged in any illegal activity to get money to support your gambling.
  • Avoidance of Illegal Activities
    You have never considered partaking in illegal actions like theft or fraud to finance your gambling activity.
  • Demonstrates Self-Control
    You can go days without gambling because you have the will power and might to. You do not feel powerless and unable to control your desire to gamble.

These signs suggest a healthy relationship with gambling and indicate that you are not addicted. What other signs do you know of?

If I did a check list of these options,I have all of them and this makes me think that I am not addicted.I think that these are a lot though,the best of all the signs is when you do not need the play when you have losing sessions,be it in slot machines be it in sport betting,you don't feel the need to come back and recover all of the lost funds.

Of course people who play with funds that they can afford to lose and do not overdo it those are the ones who have the highest identifying sign that they are not addicted,they are playing just for fun and they are not dependent on gambling even if they lose the money,they don't come chasing it,they wait until they have new funds that they can afford to lose to play again.
2627  Economy / Gambling / Re: Whats happening with Betnomi? on: July 13, 2023, 09:37:38 AM
For the main time everyone needs to avoid Betnomi to see if they're coming back again and rectify all the issues or be on the safer side by avoiding the casino because this may be a clear case of exit from the market,  just like a few members have mentioned in the comment it clear that the gambling industry is becoming a highly competitive one and at that, most of the casinos that lack liquidities could easily close their doors to business since there will not be able to meet up with the operational cost to keep the casino running.

Their chat was full of people talking there so I doubt very much the case here is a operative cost that could not be met.I and many others are still waiting for the "renewed" website for Betnomi that their representatives have promised although it has been quite a long time now for restructuring a website,no matter how heavy this website may be.

It is true that the online gambling is becoming extremely competitive however also the user base is always on the increase and will always be disgruntled people in a certain casino for a certain point that they will move to another so I don't see this as a problem.
2628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting strategy question on: July 13, 2023, 08:04:45 AM
Analysis in gambling only works for some parts of gambling such as sports betting and arbitrage betting, etc., and even those who do analysis and gamble on sports betting don't win all the time because the luck factor somehow still remains and you can't just win based on your analysis because things can turn against you unexpectedly sometimes and you will be surprised to see a team that was guaranteed to win a match will lose it miserably.

So analysis or sports betting don't guarantee that you will get profits everyday, so any kind of gambling it is, it's never going to be a source of income for you because you might win for some days but you will eventually start losing and then you will lose everything that you've won so far.
even professional gamblers still experience defeat when trying to analyze carefully and bet on the chosen team. on the one hand using the arbitrage strategy on betting maybe someone thinks this is very easy to do but it is very difficult and too big a risk when the sportbook finds out its customers using the arbitrage strategy will immediately be banned from the sportbook and I call this a loss.
but even though luck is still very important here, at least using any strategy can minimize losses so that they are not too big.

It is impossible to develop winning strategies,personally I have been losing in sport betting and decided to follow some pages where they usually boast that they are in profit overall and placed several bets yesterday night,most of them were lost games despite me betting on the so called favorites,USA lost to Panama in what it was a fixed game most probably as 5-6 is a result we rarely see,Houston Dinamo lost 0-3 and a couple of other games which were favorites and lost their games,this all to show that winning strategies are extremely difficult to develop in betting including sport betting.
2629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 13, 2023, 06:26:13 AM
Congratulations on winning your bet and I think it was the right decision to bet on Farul's win. Actually, I thought the Sheriff was a regular in the Champions League qualification and he should have been able to win this match, but it seems I was wrong and Farul actually managed to beat them. I also just found out that Farul has a very stable performance in the domestic league and if you do a search regarding this club before placing your bet it is very correct. I don't bet on this match because I'm still quite hesitant to bet on a qualifying round like this.
FC Sheriff Tiraspol is teams ever defeated Real Madrid in champion league group stage and get regular participants several time, but losing one goals is not difficult for FC Sheriff Tiraspol against with  Romania teams Farul Constanta. Second leg games will begin on Wednesday July 19 and seems chance for FC Sheriff Tiraspol win above two goals and has chance qualifying to second round UEFA Champion League. Its difficult for both teams because their competition not begin yet and have to play in UEFA Champion League qualifying round, seems has two until three round phase for teams can qualify and play in Champion League next season.

Many people don't know that Constanta is being coached by the most legendary player Romania has ever had which is George Hagi.I saw the game and despite Sheriff having more chances Constanta played much better in the sense that the few chances they had they converted in goal and won an important first leg.I also checked the squads and clearly Sheriff has better players overall so it will be interesting to see how this return leg on 19 July unfolds.Again a night with surprises in Champions League qualifiers where Slovan Bratislava could not win against a Luxembourg team.
2630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: July 12, 2023, 08:56:18 PM
RBR's way of changing their driver is quite aggressive. Anyone who didn't live up to their expectations would be replaced whenever they wanted. Well, this makes sense considering that Nyck's performance has not shown any improvement at all and maybe F1 is not a suitable place for Nyck, maybe Formula E can accept him back to compete there.
And as for Daniel I am quite excited to welcome him back to F1 as a new driver at AlphaTauri. Daniel is a pretty fun driver in my opinion, it's just that yesterday he didn't fit in at McLaren, hopefully at AlphaTauri he can adjust and improve his performance even better than he did at McLaren before.
It's his debut season in F1, so, I don't want to judge him much, he wasn't extremely bad, but in general, de Vries didn't showed any signs of improvement in half season that already passed. That's harsh reality of F1, especially when you're in Red Bull system - show results now or you will be replaced.
It's a bit relief for Perez as hisseat is safe at least until end of season.

For Perez there is nothing to be relieved as his results are really bad during these last couple of races and as Verstappen said in an interview you should be able to come out comfortably to Q3 with the best car on the grid,something Perez is missing in consecutive races.

I wonder what Ricciardo will bring at Alpha Tauri as he did not deliver at McLaren let alone to deliver in a miserable team like Alpha Tauri,De Vries came with a lot of hype and this penalized him,expectations for him were higher than they should and now he is out of F1 in the middle of the rookie season.
2631  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you expect to go to Heaven, when finished here on Earth? on: July 12, 2023, 09:38:55 AM
Nice question,I think though that asking for heaven and not wanting religious responses is like saying I am a very nice guy but I also like whores  Grin.

So yes I expect to go to heaven hopefully as what is the point of us coming here on earth and why are the skies created,I doubt they are for nothing,they are for a purpose,everything is created for a purpose and while this purpose may be different if no after life exists then well done to Hitler who killed millions and also Putin who is doing the same now,I think he is already in hellfire Hitler and Putin will follow soon.

I have always been fascinated by the topic of after life and science has proven that the human brain still functions for 30 minutes after our death and this is a miracle,they have not manage to find out what happens during these thirty minutes which make it even more mysterious.You know what is even strange,the fact that our two organs,like our genitals and our stomach which we try to pleasure as much as we can during our life,are the first organs to dissolve.
2632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 12, 2023, 08:32:24 AM
We already started some actual games of this upcoming season,as yesterday and today we have the weakest teams playing in preliminary elimination rounds,quite some surprises yesterday night from so respected teams who even at a certain point have been in group stages like Ludogoretz who lost 2-0 to KF Ballkani who on the other hand has been Europa Conference League group stages,yesterday was the first preliminary round so we have return legs.

I saw some games and of course the quality of these game were low but it is good that we are officially under way for the 2023/2024 season with games being played.
2633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: He Committed Suicide After Losing School fees, And That Of Friend To Betting.. on: July 12, 2023, 08:15:28 AM
I have seen people taking out loans and then wasting them in gambling. The numbers are huge. Entire families are destroyed as a result of addiction to gambling. And it results in gambling getting generalized and those who gamble in a responsible way getting demonized. I am against government oversight and overreach in gambling domain. But at the same time, we need to device a mechanism to prevent people from taking out loans to gamble. Gambling should be done only by those who can afford to lose. The online casinos need to come up with a mechanism to implement this rule.

It will be difficult for casinos to implement such rule as to only allow the good players to play,those who can afford to lose as they have no way of knowing it.The banks who usually give out loans do not care for what the loan is used as long as the person is able to pay them back including the asked percentage of interest.

What should be done is to create some sort of program in gambling rehab centers that borrowing money is never a good way to be spent in gambling.Also if these people happen to read good books like "Rich dad,poor dad" they will learn that the best thing to do with borrowed money is to invest them in a side business.
2634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: July 12, 2023, 07:46:38 AM
Gambling is a game that has an addictive effect. Most people who have joined gambling sites will find it difficult to get out of the gambling circle. It doesn't matter how much you lose at gambling, as long as we still have money, we will continue to gamble

Can you share your first experience playing gambling? and who told you about gambling sites?

I myself know gambling sites from my own friends. I idly and try to deposit. Starting from playing with a little money, after a while I didn't know how much money I had spent playing gambling


Almost everyone starts this way nowadays,however back in my days online gambling had just began with Pinnacle,Eurobet and William Hill betting as the most well known and trustworthy sources to bet online.Personally though I started gambling when we went out with colleagues at the work party we took in a hotel restaurant,mind you there were also a lot of slot machines that my friends got there,I followed there and I was stunned since then from the slot machines,they are pure evil though and I have promised myself two weeks ago I won't touch any of them anymore and so far I have kept my promise but it is to early for conclusions if I have been successful or not  Grin.
2635  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - Drake, UFC, Everton, Alfa Romeo F1 Team on: July 12, 2023, 07:17:56 AM
-snip-
In-case for you, got the money from promotion and yeah the KYC are gonna to be triggered because you are promotion (free). Meanwhile me ? who are deposit and getting trigered KYC for 50$ ? that's really f*ck up for me, however based on the case most of these trigered KYC are depends on the game you are playing. Example, like Sportbook they could be trigered you comparing to user who are playing slot/casino game.

I have deposited several times here without taking into consideration signature money they pay us and the KYC was never triggered,it was me that wanted to go and verify myself as Level 2 KYC for the benefits of taking part in more promotions than people without KYC.I agree though KYC should only be asked after a certain good amount of money is deposited or withdrawn like minimum of 1000 and that is what most casinos do,they let you play freely until that amount and if you surpass it then KYC is automatically triggered.
2636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Brasileirão 2023 - Brazilian Championship Serie A on: July 12, 2023, 06:52:46 AM
Botafogo has now 10 points ahead of the 2nd place, it's incredible how the team is perfoming, with 5 victories in last 5 matches.
I also realized! I'm surprised with Botafogo's performance, in fact, they are playing very well! Let's see if he can maintain this excellent performance during the championship.

By the way, guys, what is your opinion of the games that we will have in this round of the Brazilian?
Botafogo vs Bragantino (it will be an interesting game, both teams are performing similarly, but I believe Botafogo will win)


I am happy for Botafogo,we need a different team to win the league and based on their performance so far,they have even won against strong teams I think that should be no problem for them to keep this form until the end of the season.

I was always curious what RJ meant after a football team in Brazilian Serie A and found out it stands for Rio de Janeiro which I also found out has a huge number of teams in Brazil.I think that Botafogo should have no problem winning against Bragantino as Bragantino has been much more less consistent than Botafogo.
2637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your Thoughts On First Time Lottery Bettor Who Won Big Amount? on: July 11, 2023, 02:15:45 PM
I am happy for everyone who wins it big,be it state lottery,sport betting,slot machines or any other game as long as they hit it big I am happy for these persons who if they are smart enough these are life changing events and should be taken with caution and not be arrogant toward the luck that favored you.

Of course it is also motivational as every time I see such stories my moral goes up when I place sport bets or when I start playing a new session in a slot machine,I have higher hopes than I would normally have without seeing such great stories.
2638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Healthy mindset to save earnings from gambling on: July 11, 2023, 12:17:24 PM
It's not really only about having a rich or healthy mindset but it is also about discipline and self-control. A person with a rich mindset might also have a hasty nature which makes him take decisions without giving them much thought which ends up putting him in situations that cause him losses. So, the very first thing in a person, whether they have a rich or poor mindset, to be able to achieve that in gambling is to have self-control and the ability to be disciplined.

Someone who doesn't have these things will barely be able to get any success in gambling even if they are winning, because as you said, they will eventually lose everything back because they won't stop after winning as greed makes them gamble more only with the hope that they might win even more with it.

Greed is difficult to fight as it is deep in our roots since many centuries ago and is deep in our DNA.You can't change something that is programmed to behave like it does,therefore even a healthy mindset may be victim of a moment where greed prevails over the brain and the gambler follows his instinct clearly in a damaging way for him as greed usually cause us to lose a lot of money.

This to say that a healthy mindset is not enough if we have not trained ourselves very well in self control and self discipline,the healthy mindset cannot keep you at winning ways,discipline does as it dictates us to stop no matter greed may be yelling gooooooooo.
2639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: July 11, 2023, 11:50:47 AM
For me was one of the most fun races to watch in a lot of time. I said it before, but i hope Mcclaren stay in this level and not drop back.

Ferrari its more of the same, always a problem, one day the drivers, the other the team, other the car, another day and the whole thing fails.

Mercedes ended up with really good points for the championship (second position Tongue ).

Mercedes were lucky thanks to the safety car and Piastri was the most unlucky driver of the whole race having pitted right before the Safety Car did came in.I think McLaren not only will stay in the same level but surely they would want to upgrade their car even further,Lando together with Zack Brown said that they hope to get that first win for the season in upcoming races and which better than Hungary,a track very difficult to overtake,just taking the pole here for McLaren would be a huge achievement which can be translated further to a race win.
2640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: July 11, 2023, 11:19:36 AM
Dortmund shouldn't miss the opportunity of bringing back Jadon Sancho. Because they can obviously sign him for a much less amount they sold him to Manchester United. After that I think Sancho will start performing much better at his old team to increase his value again. This would surely attract the attention of big teams again.

I don't think United are open to selling Jadon Sancho and since they are not trying to get rid of him, I don't think they will accept any offers lower than the amount for which they bought Sancho for. Remember the time they wasted on negotiating for Sancho and the amount they have invested in him, so it won't be easy for Dortmund if they want to go for Sancho's return.

It feels bad to see Sancho struggling there but United are a squad with all players at a very good level and to get playing chances you have to emerge as a better and reliable option before the manager. It will be same even if he goes to some other big club and every young player who moved to a big club has to go through this phase. Expectations, spotlight are the most difficult things to handle.

Dortmund I think in the upcoming season no matter which guy they bring in,even the best player in the world they will have extreme,huge difficulties to win the Bundesliga after failing miserably in the last game of last season when they had everything in their hand.The psychological blow to all the Dortmund players cannot be passed as easily as we may think and therefore this bad psychological condition will carry over to the next season which in the best case would be a Dortmund in the second place,yeah it takes sometime when you lose in last game,remember Inter in 2002 in Italy and when they won the title after,same story here.
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