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2021  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Hackers and their use of mixing services on: February 06, 2020, 10:52:06 AM
Personally I appreciate why smart bitmixer's owner was, this person is great. He created the most amazing mixer and also he closed it himself. To make it more clear, only in 2015 year bitmixer was roughly mixing up to 60K-70K coins monthly (they launched service in 2014 year). Then in 2016, bitmixer owner stated himself that their website mixed 1 million coin. So what do you think, how many people were using it for just protecting their privacy during online shopping? I think maybe some percent only, max 4-5%. See how many websites were seized and how many still aren't and how many things are done without websites via different messengers.
Nowadays mixers aren't used for good purposes, it may was in 2014-2015 year just for the interest of mixer.
2022  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: . on: February 06, 2020, 09:38:18 AM
Idk why op deleted thread's title, it's a good subject for huge bitcoin enthusiasts to make them believe that bitcoin isn't that lifechanger as they think.
At first cryptocurrency trading isn't that much profitable and stable, when you have a family you need more stable income. And in trading when you profit, someone loses.
So you have 100$, I have 100$, if today I own 160$, you own 40$ and who knows, maybe in future I may make mistake and you - right action and I'll have 80$, you - 120$ or maybe both of us lose and someone will have additional 200$.
What boots country's economy is foreign trading and it was like that all the time. To make it more clear: Imagine I produce potato but it's expensive for me because soil isn't that good, nitric fertilizers aren't that cheap and etc. And finally 10lbs potato produced by me worth 6$ while I can import it for 4$ from Turkey for example. Why the hell do I have to still continue this job? But now imagine, to produce smartphone in USA worth a lot while china is ready to make this for you for some bucks. Why to still produce in my country while another countries give me so great opportunity?
Now also imagine electricity is cheap in my country and I have a lot of natural resources, why not to sell it on others? If electricity worth 3 cent for me and for my neighbor country it worths 10 cent, why won't they buy it from me?
This is what boosts economy, do what you can for yourself and others and let others do things what they can at their best for themselves and for you.
2023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UK gamblers cannot use Credit Cards for gambling from April 14, 2020 on: February 05, 2020, 08:13:37 PM
Good decision, really. A lot of people don't have self control and to be fair this win/loss has huge influence on brain that includes rush of dopamine and other hormones that makes situation out of control and gambler, especially those ones with addictive behavior or with addiction, find easy way: Deposit via Credit Cards that they have in their own wallet or who knows, they may take Credit Cards of relatives and gamble. Easy process is good but in gambling I think this new rule will make it a little bit harder for gamblers to deposit and experience their full rush, it's good for them, good rule.
2024  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBitcoin.io - New Project on: February 05, 2020, 07:50:54 PM
It's never a good option to use 3rd party script for such projects but if source is trustworthy and secure, then it's ok. Personally I don't know anything about your script provider.
As far as I understood this website is combination of faucet, addmefast and seosprint.
It has really a lot of functions for one website and personally I can't say that website offers aesthetically pleasing designs, no, please really change template of your website and make it more responsive, modern to attract people. Don't get wrong with me but current one isn't really good.
2025  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Why are exchanges still listing shitcoins? on: February 05, 2020, 06:29:23 PM
That's because these exchanges have very bad strategy, they want to collect money as soon as possible (asking some fees to place your coin). But they can't understand one thing, this situation is pretty similar of following: Imagine you are selling good apples and someone asks you to keep his bad apples with your good ones and he offers you great fee for it. You agree with it and collect money quickly but you didn't understand that these bad apples will make another apples bad and in this words I mean that adding of shitcoins will ruin your reputation. That's not something exchanges should want but they don't care so, take it easy.
2026  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A clue on how to make them see that bitcoin isn't a scam on: February 05, 2020, 02:54:10 PM
Seriously, today I had some debate with vice-chairman of ministry of economy and sustainable development of Georgia about whether bitcoin is good or not. We were talking about virtual money and then this task came to my mind. I explained her that banks and centralized system aren't good, as a result we get huge fall in USD's cost of value (can say the same on national currencies). Fed is private company, they print money as they wish and create debt that we have to pay. Bitcoin can fix these problems at some point, it's people's, our currency and not modified exclusively for government to manage it as they wish. Bitcoin helps us to have transactions without help of 3rd parties... In overall I talked about a lot of benefits that bitcoin carries but I was super amazed from her answer. She was saying the same over and over again, bitcoin is used for money laundering and etc things. Yeah, that's true but also it's not only bitcoin to blame, then blame PC and internet creator, blame Linux, Tor and VPN creator cause combination of all of this makes it possible to send anonymous transaction and receive what you have to get.
I reminded her that Deutsche bank and others were also in money laundering but she said, they all will be caught. I don't think so and sad fact is that she just don't want to listen to me and is strictly on her opinion.
2027  Economy / Gambling / Re: SafeDICE.com ★ Bitcoin Dice ★ Monero ★ 0.5% Edge ★ Fast Cashout ★ Since 2014 on: February 05, 2020, 01:17:55 PM
I know this website is dead (I liked safedice very much) but as far as I remember owner stated that SDmod would take care of some things there. I just checked his account and as it seems, last activity of SDmod was in January 31, 2020 (5 days ago). Here is his account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1941878
And also, since website is almost dead, why it still remains live? I think Safedice would be hosted on dedicated server and not on just random shared hosting or vps server). So it worths decent amount of money, who keeps it alive, why is it still alive?
2028  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Much Money You Need To Win To Stop gambling, Is This Possible. on: February 05, 2020, 11:17:34 AM
I think for some people there is no limits on that to stop gambling and a lot of people are bright example of that, we can see list of some of them: https://www.thepennyhoarder.com/save-money/lottery-winners-who-lost-it-all/
The problem is... When someone wins a lot of money and is gambler at the same time, most of them thinks: I have a lot of money, now let's gamble for fun and keep most of the profit. Then they lose some self control after some loses and add a little bit money from already won jackpot with words: It's nothing to add some money from it, I still have a lot, it won't affect my wallet. This goes on and on and finally they lose and don't find any gold line between start and stop, win and loses.
2029  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin Correct to $6,500? on: February 04, 2020, 08:44:51 PM
I've been in-between moving back to USDT and hodling my Bitcoin in the hopes it may reach the psychological price of $10,000. But this voice in my head that just won't go away says, a heavy dump to $6,500 is on the way. I just hate to get my hopes up high and then dashed again.


Any thoughts?
It's very hard to predict price, it may really dump or will be stable/continue rise. Chances there are really 50/50 because when we saw rise from 9k to 13k, that was a huge positive psychological factor but you know what happened, price went down dramatically. Despite the fact that there is upcoming halving, it doesn't guarantee that price will remain high until that (who knows what will happen after that but I am hugely positive that it will rise after halving).
Idk what to suggest, personally I would hold it for a while to see what happens, if it goes down to 8500 and lower, then I would sell it. Otherwise maybe worth to see whether price will reach 10K or not (+ today max price was up to 9400 usd).
2030  Economy / Gambling / Re: recouver ur coins from sites dice on: February 04, 2020, 07:02:04 PM
hello peopel
hello people

who want investing withme
Who wants to invest with me?
i have idea with sites dice

I have an idea on dice websites

alotof users lost daily on sites dice .....and they try recouver (not recouver, piriform recuva Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy )

A lot of users lose daily on dice websites and they try to recover
so  if you want more detail how to help this peopel
So if you want to know more details about how to help these people

for make them recouver without they send us money

I don't understand at all what you mean. To recover without sending money to us?

contact with me on telegram ( lokamokaa )
Contact me on telegram.


That isn't translated via google because google translator can write words correctly. So if you really want to learn English but don't have any money, glad you have access to internet. There are a lot of websites that give you possibility to learn English and other languages for free and on average level, even higher if you really want.
And forget scams, it's not good action man. Be honest with people.
2031  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PSA: If gold were illegal... (Gold WAS illegal!) on: February 04, 2020, 05:51:37 PM
Yes, I agree with you, what goes around - comes around. That's the reason why I personally don't want us to move on cashless society. If they do this, then they'll be able to freeze our accounts, they also don't care about our privacy and they let visa to along with their partner banks to implement face recognition (play with smile) payments in CEMEA countries. (That's why I hate amazon's alexa, Fitbit's tracking system and etc but this last one is beneficial especially during workout Cheesy).
So who knows, that era may return again.
You remember when alcohol was illegal in USA? That was very stupid decision like making gold illegal too. They don't know what to do, from what to make money and where to gain monopoly.
2032  Other / Meta / Re: 'Grin' - The first altcoin accepted from Bitcointalk? on: February 04, 2020, 05:21:01 PM
As we now know that Grin and mimble-wimble is not really private as people was thinking,
I am not really sure how long will Grin be supported in bitcointalk.

No one says that Grin is really the most anonymous coin but it really offers good privacy protection.
Theymos talks himself about Grin's privacy:

Monero = CT + stealth addresses + ring signatures. Grin = CT + "stealth addresses" + mimblewimble. Because grin replaces ring signatures with mimblewimble, its privacy is less reliable than Monero's. Probably the grin developers have tried to make their mimblewimble transaction aggregation methods good, but I currently wouldn't put much faith in it, and IMO it'll take many years of research to get something really solid. That said, CT + stealth addresses offer a certain base level of privacy, and grin's method of handling stealth addresses (using an interactive protocol, exchanging "slates") is both more scalable than Monero and probably more private.

If your goal is to mix coins, grin is definitely not for you right now, and it may never be. Monero's goal is maximal privacy, regardless of the cost. Grin's goal is excellent privacy, consistent with scaling.
2033  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When bitcoin price is low, any slight movement is more profitable. Here is why. on: February 04, 2020, 03:22:10 PM
Most people dream of bitcoin to reach $100K or $1 million dollars value but according to my calculations low prices can bring more profit when the price movements are small. Let me tell you the reason.

Suppose bitcoin price is $10.000 and it increases by just $200 to reach $10.200 during a day. This is 2% profit (excluding fees). In other words, it is $2 profit with $100 investment.

Now Suppose bitcoin is $4.000 and it goes up by the same $200 and reaches $4.200. This is 5% profit! (excluding fees). In other words, it is $5 profit with $100 investment.

So, the amount of price movement was the same in both examples, but you will get 2.5x more profit in the second scenario! That's a big difference. Therefore, when bitcoin price stays low it can be more profitable for daily trading with small changes in price.
I didn't know if trading was so simple. If you know when price rises, falls and etc, then yeah, such trading will bring you 100x more profit but in reality it's not like that and such trading isn't profitable. You may profit but you need a lot of time to see charts, read bitcoin related news + add luck to all of these.
People dream about that high rise because they want guaranteed profit without any risky movement. You bought bitcoin when price was low, all you do is hold and are waiting for price rise to cashout your profit.
In overall consider this, every investment carries risks and luck. For example luck is when someone got bitcoin in 2011, forgot about it and when they saw price was 20K, then they remembered and sold all of their coins, yeah, it's luck too.
2034  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin scams and new Bitcoin users on: February 04, 2020, 01:49:23 PM
this is one of the reasons why majority of the population still think that bitcoin is a big scam.newbies should learn how to research and study what they are up to...its not just a one day big time life event.and as i always say to my friends that shows interest entering crypto dont think that if you invest today tomorrow you will be rich,its a matter of time and patience.and there is no such thing as double your money instant.you need to work for it learn more about it and focus.long patience is a must here.
That isn't a main reason at all for people to call bitcoin scam. The reason why they mostly call it scam is it's price movement. Some people say: They make bitcoin's price growing in order to get people's attention and then suddenly price falls and they make a lot of money, so bitcoin is scam, pyramid, ponzi.
Sometimes they also call bitcoin scam because of that reason which you and OP posted and people say: Hey, I invested on one website that promised me 5% profit daily and it took all my money and went away, so bitcoin is scam, this coin helps scammers and benefits them, not me.


Crypto caught the attention of a lot of bad people in the HYIP and what I first realized during the period of crypto run was that many HYIP started using crypto as part of their payment options in addition to other ones such as perfect money, payza, solidtrustpay and others. This did not stop there as many scam schemes are being created with the names of the scheme relating to crypto (e.g Bitdonate, bitconnect etc) while the payment processors being used were purely cryptocurrencies. If you have experience with investing in HYIP before you will know that those behind the scheme are very smart. Today I believe they are the same set of people creating many crypto-related project and throwing IEO on some platforms such as Latoken, exmarket, Crex24 etc. with the major aim of defrauding investors as usual.
Scammers love cryptocurrencies because as we know once you send your coins to another address and you get a confirmation then your money is lost, we need to teach people that a bank is not there to protect them just like what happens with fiat, they are supposed to be their own bank and they need to be responsible about their money or they will lose their coins, most people do not want to take this responsibility and prefer the delegate on banks but soon enough they will realize the mistake they have made to trust in banks.
To be fair it's not like that nowadays, scammers are caught pretty easily and more frequently so not all crypto is good solution for them.
And if there are people who are looking for chargeback and similar services on bitcoin and really think it has bank's privileges, then they have to forget it. Bitcoin is everything that bank isn't. You have anonymity, fast and low fee transactions, you are your own bank and no 3rd party controls you.
2035  Economy / Economics / Re: Countries with banks to buy and sell cryptocurrencies on: February 04, 2020, 11:32:57 AM
I don't have list of countries where you can buy bitcoin via banks officially but this is what they do mostly: Some banks own electronic wallet companies (Similar of webmoney, yandex kiwi and etc) and in some countries there is no crypto regulation and such wallets can easily accept bitcoin and altcoin payments. When banks own those companies too, they can offer you all of bank services, their wallet just keeps exchange/hold feature, once you exchange btc into USD or local currency, you can withdraw that money with 0 commission on your bank's account instantly and then do whatever you want. Also terminals and ATMs of these bank's allows you to buy bitcoin with cash and withdraw bitcoins with your bank's card (converts btc into local currency automatically).
2036  Other / Meta / Re: 'Grin' - The first altcoin with accepted from Bitcointalk? on: February 04, 2020, 11:10:23 AM
Grin caught his attention from the very beginning. Here is a little story about this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098450.msg49556346#msg49556346

I think it worth to have a look at this thread too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2095328.0
2037  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Popularize Bitcoin with another way : lasers and technology danceshow on: February 04, 2020, 10:19:48 AM
I just finished to create a dance show to promote bitcoin.

My target was to popularize bitcoin to another way so I used lasers and lightsuit to create a show...

This is what I can do to contribute to the community. I hope you'll enjoy  Smiley

See the result here on youtube : https://youtu.be/0j6DrcRYBsQ
Amazing job man, I especially loved when bitcoin logo moves around and then boom, it comes with words: International, Transparent, Trustless, Decentralized, Secure. Then those percentages that means price movement.
But Roger Ver's quote sucks Cheesy For him bitcoin is bitcoin cash, not bitcoin core.
I think you need to develop your dance, improve movements and etc. Instead of solo, it may be better to have a group of professional dancers, create more amazing laser show on bitcoin and then go into your country's got talent. If you are from US/UK, it will be very cool, will attract more audience.
2038  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Mixer BitiMix.com on: February 03, 2020, 11:33:57 PM
Whenever i see a brand new account that only made  posts in order to tell the forum how great a certain service worked for them, only one thing pops to mind: This is either the owner or somebody payed by the owner for the sole purpose of being able to spam the link to his/her service without getting banned for spamming.
Obviously not paid by owner but owner itself. Why the hell would someone start looking for someone and requesting some money in order to create account in 1 minute and then create thread here? I think it's really owner or some newbie who just googled and discovered mixer website, thanks to seo (in past we would say thanks to ads). But since brand new websites aren't that well ranked in google, I would say this thread is created by owner.
Even strategy of this is very curious, you come, create thread and ask guys if they have ever used similar service. It's like I'm selling Coca-cola and asking for any other similar products or have you ever tasted Pepsi?
Guys with this strategy are burnt from the very first character.
2039  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [VIDEO]The Empirical Proof of Bitcoin's Real Value Being Zero on: February 03, 2020, 09:10:09 PM
The linked 5-minute video provides a simple and undeniable proof that the real value of Bitcoin is zero. It does that by showing that Bitcoin lacks the fundamental feature for which all financial instruments exist in the first place, and that is to provide payment to their holders.

https://youtu.be/WSYTXmxPveY
Personally I don't give an attention to such videos, doesn't matter whether it will be bitcoin related or not.
What has value? Can you really tell me? What's good and what's bad? We decide it, yeah? So can 100% say the same on value. Nothing has value in reality, for lion it doesn't matter whether you give it gold or iron, food is what they are looking for and crave.
The value of gold, oil and etc, all of this is psychological factor.
If we think like the author of video, then USD has no value, it's just a piece of paper and I own 48 of them in notepaper and I have 100x such notepaper, I should be very rich. But again, value is psychological factor.
2040  Economy / Economics / Re: Centralized exchanges have become the banks of the cryptocurrency world on: February 03, 2020, 08:02:26 PM
Well, they are becoming at some point because for example on bitcoin's case, exchanges hold more bitcoin than ever. According to article that was published on longhash, coinbase holds 1 million bitcoin in it's cold wallet. That's bad cause not your keys, not your coins and that's 100% right without doubt, crypto isn't something that gives you ability to request chargeback and etc.
Let's move on OPs post, there is a problem of exchanges not accepting altcoins? When there is demand, there is supply. Imagine exchange not accepting btc, ether and others, their popularity would fall dramatically and their business too. These developers have to create demand on their coins and you have to make situation like if exchange doesn't accept it, they'll lose a lot. That's hard to do...
There are 6686 according to coinmarketcap, 95% of them are more than shit. From that 5%, 4% is shit. In 1% you may find some really good.
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