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1521  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: October 10, 2020, 10:49:43 AM
i have a simple question. maybe somebody can answer it. today there is 0.00000018 BTC. what was the lowest win and when was the highest win. i mean without bonus.
 this project has already been around for a few years. there must be big differences in the winners
The prize you get when playing the free roll depends on BTC/dollar rate. The base reward (the reward you get when hitting 0-9885 without any bonus) is always 0.002 dollar.
So, the lowest prize (at BTC) was being awarded when BTC was at it highest price (December 2017) and the highest prize (at BTC) was being awarded when BTC was at its lowest price.

This is exactly right. I remember getting around 1000 sats per hour on FreeBitco.in. Ahh, those were the days! Smiley

But, on the other hand, I wasn't exactly unhappy when  BTC was close to $20k, and I was getting just 10 sats from the faucet.  Grin That's the nature of BTC - puts you always in a win-win situation, somehow. Smiley
Old days were just the gold times. There were a whole different vibes and emotions when we were getting into bitcoin and crypto community and I bet most of the people started earning their bitcoins by freebitco. This website really played a huge role in crypto history.
Btw I don't like the fact that bonus reward on freerols doesn't increase on it's own after certain time and I think it will be better to change it, for example 2 more satoshies per day until it reaches certain limit. Otherwise, if you bet and bet, that bonus reward increases very slowly and you end up losing everything that you gained during playing + bonus reward still gets low as it's very hard to rise.
1522  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best USA based Crypto Sportsbook? on: October 08, 2020, 10:45:31 PM
First of all, you won't find any USA based crypto sportsbook cause such thing doesn't exist. Secondly, it will be better for you to use high quality VPN service with dedicated and unique IP address to get rid of account lock/freeze because of shared IPs. As always, there are chances that sportsbooks may ask you for KYC documents and since you won't be able to provide it because you are from USA and will be meaningless, they'll catch you in this part and your account will be frozen and funds - lost. Btw you can risk and play with only small amount of money to not make doubts and get the pleasure that you gain by doing bets on sports.

Btw idk if there are sportsbooks that accept players from USA but again, if there are any and someone suggest any of them, always check the trust profile of their representatives on bitcointalk and also always look for scam accusation threads (if available), what caused the problem, how it was solved and others.
1523  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A case of the pandemic changing the score and affecting sports betting on: October 08, 2020, 09:48:14 PM
There are some people who look at odds when betting and right now, I think it's totally useless and I think even experts in this field can't give right odds on certain matches. The bad thing here is that for example in soccer and let's take FC Barcelona VS Sevilla for example, the fact that game was in Barca, there was higher chances for barca to win and historically, it was always very hard for Sevilla to get any points in matches when they had to play in Camp Nou but as for now, no fans, no motivation words in stadium, no old vibes... So, it doesn't matter where clubs play, whether at home or not, it makes no sense right now and because of this situation it's very hard for betters to make a right decision.
1524  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: which is a good option?? Trade or Hodl on: October 08, 2020, 09:21:26 PM
Good option? Depends on who...
If you just want to gain profit and are a calm person who is resistant to dramatic price falls and changes, then HODL is a better choice. But trading? Well, who does nothing, makes no mistakes so in this case, this is a sure win but personally I am against HODL because if we hold our money and don't move it, then nothing will be changed/created. Money has to be in a circulation. Someone has more while others need it. When you hold, price depend on those who trade and you are out of game. Personally I don't like when something is in stuck, I prefer money to be in move but trading can cause your profits to rise and fall, everything depends on your skills and luck too, luck plays a huge role in both of these situation in any way.
1525  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it alright to invest with bitcoin at the current market price? on: October 08, 2020, 08:26:38 PM
Personally, I think that it's always ok to invest in bitcoin if it's price is 20% far from it's an all-time high. I think that way because to my mind bitcoin will always reach and surpass it's all-time high. In any way, it's always hard to decide best time to invest in bitcoin cause it's a thing that changes price very often and there are moments when you think: oh, this coin falls so much, I think it will still continue fall and I'll invest later or this coin can't get back to high price for a long time and it may be an end. Also some think like bitcoin is so high that it doesn't worth to invest right now but then it happens like coin steadily continues rise and rise and that's a moment when users make mistake and invest in a bad time.
1526  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: TradingKlaus - Have I been scammed ? on: October 08, 2020, 07:20:55 PM
I recently tried to withdraw the BTC I had on a account I created on tradingklaus.com but they keep telling me to add more deposit for insurance, ect...
I found that a little fishy and I wanted to make sure I am not being scammed before continuing to put more deposits.
The site said it was created on 2014 with a UK company number OC393237.
Apart from the website, the company seems really real but I couldn't find any information on this website.
I feel like have I been scammed and I don't really know what to do...

Did someone heard about this website ?

Add more deposit for insurance? For what kind of insurance? It's illogical when they ask you for deposit in order to withdraw but at the same time they tell you that available money isn't enough and you need to deposit even more for just insurance.
You should think about the way projects communicate with you. I mean, this kind of behaviours directly indicate that project scams you and wants to steal money from you.
Don't get fooled by the facts that website was created in 2014 (usually, scamers buy old, registered domains for more confidence for users) and also by the fact that company is registered in UK. Seems, it's easy to register in UK and get license there, that's why a lot of scam companies are registered in UK and write their LTD name on SSL certificate, for more confidence.
1527  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin talk could fix the spam in one move....REMOVE SIGNATURE...Right?? on: October 08, 2020, 11:32:29 AM
I don't understand at all, after many years, people still complain about signature campaigns, why? What's wrong with it?
First of all bitcointalk is a place where you can discuss about bitcoin, blockchain and crypto related threads. This forum is an insane source of amazing information and of some amazing people. This is a forum where you can post your question about technical thing, economics, etc and get solid answers. What's wrong with signatures? You post here, help people and earn some money.

I wouldn't call myself the highest quality posters but after all, what measures quality of our posts? Haven't you ever visited any other forum? For example reddit and others? Spams are everywhere, nothing can fix it. Our posts also shouldn't be 100% related to technical staff and PHD degree. It's also communication between users.

People trade here, do good things. This forum gives new and old businesses a possibility to promote, become popular and start a project in crypto industry. This forum is the great place for this purposes too. Signature campaigns help businesses to spread their message and this helps crypto industry to develop. By using signature campaigns, there were created and promoted a lot of very successful projects that play now the major role in crypto business.

Signature campaigns also drive traffic on this website. I can't believe you haven't seen a high quality posters who put signature in their profile.

Let's imagine we removed signatures, what do you think, people won't ever post spam things? Check other forums who don't have signatures, there are still dozens of spam posts.

This forum is doing great things, a lot of projects started from there and continue from there. Also I think we shouldn't forget the job of moderators and DT members, they are doing great things against spammers.

And enough is enough!!! Brain is f***ed by such threads.
1528  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People Say btc is Not ponzi but its look like ponzi on: October 08, 2020, 11:12:44 AM
What makes this currency to look like a ponzi? Usually, complainant has to prove things against crime suspected, so, do you have any proofs against bitcoin? It's very funny to see how you tell us that your ponzi scheme that offers 10% weekly and 50% from affiliate commission is real one but the bitcoin is false, scam project. Do you even know what cryptocurrencies are? What's bitcoin, how it's earned, how are transactions made, what's blockchain, etc? You have no idea what's the system behind bitcoin and how it works and claim that it's ponzi. It doesn't even worth to argue with you because first of all you have to read a lot of things about it and not only consider rumors that some people may say, those who only heard word bitcoin and some things about it's price, how it has risen in certain times and how it went down. Such people usually think that bitcoin's price is manipulated and soros set's it's price range.
1529  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: October 08, 2020, 10:27:21 AM
Fortunejack has been around for over 6 years now, they started 6 years 1 month ago on this topic and that means it was active a bit before that as well so we can say it is over 6 years old. You can check their history and you will see that there is no big complaints that they couldn't solve, sure there were few who tried to cheat the system and got caught and maybe few who lost money on loss streak and blamed FJ for meddling, but for the past 6 years 99% of people know that this place is great.

They also do great marketing and promotions as well so you could get some free stuff time to time as well. Are there better places? No I do not think so, this is as good as it gets, there are very few that are competing with this place but none that is clearly better anywhere.
I know FortuneJack's history better than anyone here and I would say that this casino achieved a lot. They started business in 2014 when crypto casinos still were the new thing. It was a startup that was oriented on development and progress. This is more likely a high-tech company rather than only gambling one. They seriously take care of their employees and choose the ones who think out of frames and are creative, talented... FJ is a pure example of how startups can achieve a success. It's outstanding to see who they were in past and who they become right now.
FJ is great but not the best, I wouldn't talk about other casinos but what's great here is that FJ is among top ones.
1530  Economy / Economics / Re: rich people super rich are taking loans now why? what it means ? on: October 07, 2020, 09:31:56 PM
Do you know that one of the major companies and leaders in a lot of industries carry a lot of debt? Insane amount of debts despite the fact that these companies are gamechangers.
Also I suggest you to check this article 5 Successful Companies That Didn't Make a Dollar for 5 Years[/rul]. In the list there are companies like Amazon, FedEx, Tesla and others.
So, yeah, rich people take loans when their money supply isn't enough for them to start a business or a thing that they want and requires much more resources. Also, when someone is rich, it doesn't automatically means that he/she owns supply of money, no, this can be assets and stocks that they don't want to sell too.
1531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Favorite gamemodes on: October 07, 2020, 08:24:43 PM
why roullete is a comunity game ? its not a pvp but its usually played single and not live . i play dice the most and afaik dice is single player  . coinflip is a pvp based game but i haven tried and tested it online although im playing the offline version before when i was a kid . pvp games are not in the main scene on this era but the popular are just single player and sometimes live games . why are you askin this question ? you wana do a survey or you wana build your own site based on the most answered games .
Actually there are roulette live game providers if you have visited some casinos and the dealer will spin the wheel live in front of you and a lot of people bet together on each round and hence the OP mentioned roulette as the community game because a lot of people bet on the same spin and everyone wins different based on their wager and numbers they choose.

I actually never feel roulette as a fun game because I heard live dealers use magnets to bring a particular number and make gamblers loose and there are times when dealers are caught cheating in the cards game so I actually prefer to play fair games and also they come at a lower house edge. I now it might be less funny to some people but then it at least ensures you are not getting cheated.
Are you seriously saying that? I've been a floor supervisor in Evolution Gaming and I can 100% say that what you said is wrong and false. Dealers spin balls themselves, without magnits and they spin wheels themselves too, there are no magnits! Combination of ball's spin speed, roulette's current state and speed of wheel's rotating gives you a specific number as a result. Everything is done by dealer without magnits and etc. There are cameras 24/7 everywhere and everything is controlled by a lot of people. If there are mistakes like low speed of wheel or ball spin, game is cancelled and bets are refunded. If dealer tries to cheat, he/she loses job and players gets refund/compensation. Live casinos are 100% fair, everything is controlled to be fair and we want our customers to have amazing and outstanding experience during their gaming, it's a request from casinos too.
There can't be thousands of professional and cheater card shufflers and dealers in one place! Think logically.
1532  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Good Project Not website yet Not ready but the concept is here on: October 07, 2020, 07:03:38 PM
Are you a troll here or dumb enough to not understand the idea behind the project? Haven't you heard anything about pyramid/scam/ponzi schemes? Or about qnet?
You deposit money, get a referral bonus and other benefits like 10% weekly but why? How? What profit does company gets? Haven't you thought about that? Imagine I invest $100, I'll get $100 in one week, finally $200. Then I'll get another $200 in one week. Then invest it and get $400, then 800$. In one month, I got 800% ROI. In two month, you'll get 12 800% ROI, 128x of your first initial deposit.

Also as you do know money makes money!
We Can make money out of money by investing on other projects.

How much experience do you have doing this?


Long years Long years of Learning "
Money makes money but it doesn't work that way. You have zero experience in it, you have no idea even in scamming and at least you can't even make things sound like real one. Where will you invest? What and how much projects will you create that will bring skyrocketed profits? That way you'll buy a whole earth very quickly.

Also why do you want to start with Africa? Because there are a lot of poor and uneducated people and it's easy to lie them? Shame on you.

Conclusion:
You are a troll!
This thread must be closed!
1533  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How wallets make money? It is worse than you think. on: October 07, 2020, 05:56:40 PM
I think first of all certain software developers must deserve to be the leaders and gain our attention in a positive way. For a while, they should offer their software without any charge to gain attention and customers. After that, for further development, they can ask for subscription service. Most softwares come with trials, such thing can be applied to cryptocurrency wallet softwares. Pay for your license and get their service. This will help them to collect funds, get profit, hire good developers and grow company with it's product(s). Idk why no one does that, they could also charge from transaction fees but idk how is that possible for crypto wallets since users are able to use them offline too.
1534  Economy / Services / Re: Tower.bet Signature and avatar campaign(FULL) on: October 06, 2020, 09:58:56 PM
I am glad if give chance to join your campaign, I have try more than 20 time but still not success received in your signature campaign, I think my post look the same with the other have received in your campaign but I am not lucky last chance before.
Manager doesn't make a list of participants and choose them by random generator, so, luck has nothing to do here.
1535  Economy / Economics / Re: I lost my job, how about you guys? on: October 06, 2020, 05:39:37 PM
Everything is unstable as long as there is a pandemic. Businesses halted operations due to supply problems. Supplies for a specific business takes too long to arrive beacuse of the tight security and of course shipment crews needs to be quarantined everytime they cross borders. That is why small businesses are affected and we workers as well. I know the only thing that will help me survive this crisis is cryptocurrency that is why I am active here again because fiat had failed me.

What is your story with fiat and cryptocurrency during pandemic? This is again the battle of centralized and decentralized assets and activity in the middle of a crisis. In your own experiences and opinion which of the two will win?
I haven't lost job but my family members yeah and I had to take care of whole family. My salary was good but at the same time I was working on personal digital side projects and it happened like pandemic and it started all together. Glad, I had some bitcoin reserves and btc didn't fall, this really helped me a lot.
The point here is that I had bought those bitcoins much earlier when price was 5K and saved them. There wasn't fall in bitcoin's price during this pandemic and despite the fact that I was afraid that bitcoin may wouldn't act well, I still believed in it. Halving happened recently and this was my major hope cause on previous halving, things went so smooth and well, I was captivated. This pandemic was a real test for bitcoin and it succeed.
National currency lessened in value but not bitcoin and USD, so crypto helped me a lot.
1536  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Enough is enough! Good bye Bitcoin! on: October 06, 2020, 09:21:39 AM
I'm fed up with all this cryptocurrency thing.

First off, I make tremendous loses due to being a newbie in this market. After a second thought (and accepting the heavy loses incurred) I decided to try again and re-invest in bitcoin, only to be told this few moments ago.

I will not risking HODLING bitcoins if they will shut down the first (and only) cryptocurrency exchange in Kuwait. As such I decided to play it safe, incur further loses, and just sold all my bitcoins and getting out of this business for good.

After all, why should I HODL my bitcoins (1.25 this time) when I can't exchange them for cash when I need them? More importantly, how will bitcoin appreciate when exchanges will close in other parts of the world?

I wish I was never introduced to Bitcoin.  Angry

Any ideas on what I should do with my Ledger Nano X now?  Roll Eyes
I amn't gonna tell you: oh no, you have to stick with bitcoin. No, what's wrong here is that people wrap bitcoin like a godsend gift and only talk you about it's pros and how rich you'll become if you invest money in it but no one tells you about the risk of easy reward and that risk is easy lose. If bitcoin isn't something that you can profit from and if exchanges and other circumstances are against you, then just ignore it. Not everyone trades with usd/euro or any other (crypto)currencies. You have to do the job where you can do your best.
Btw you can always use international exchanges, they may even offer better possibilities and terms.

If exchanges close in other parts of the world, then people will just stick with international ones or your old ones will move into other countries.
1537  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥Sportbook and Casino: BITSLER > $10,000 DAILY Wagering contest < on: October 05, 2020, 08:20:42 PM
Have anyone tried with the BTSLR Challenge.

~snip

It is quite interesting and the top wagers with BTSLR will be provided with BTSLR, and my account has got 25 BTSLR Play tokens be claim. Everyone can play with that, and the winners are continuously updated same as the wagering contest. Here in the list the wagering amount gets listed in terms of bitcoin. Does the winner be paid in BTC or BTSLR Play tokens.
I tried to play there in the BTSLR challenge if I was lucky but I still did not succeed.  You only have 20 claims in 12 hours.  And it resets at 00:00 GMT and 12:00 GMT.  If anyone can increase his BTSLR coin within 12 hours before the timer resets, he will be the winner and will be counted among the winners.  There is also a leaderboard where whoever gets the most will receive the highest prize amount.  Bitcoin is the prize you will receive and not a BTSLR coin.
BTSLR coins have no value so who cares about those coins when it comes to reward...
It's very hard alone to win BTSLR contest, especially if you are a low rank because you have to claim coins and collect the highest numbers, that means you don't have to lose, just somehow get more and more, pure luck. I think wagering would be better but it's just an alternative of bitcoin faucet, so still nice and amazing but as I remember it was even better in past, when it was new.
Also, as I mentioned previously, it would be better if they give us possibility to make bets via bitsler coins but as for now, support on this currency is still disabled. Hope Baryom or anyone from Bitsler will consider this.
1538  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: October 05, 2020, 07:24:11 PM
Another victim,

Always with the same problem, "VPN",, dont worry mate thats a old trick that many crypto sites do,, you must understand that is better avoid pay you 0,36 btc because we must pay our developers and stuff first.

did you take some sportsbook bonus? I dont think so, FJ now is not offering anything for new depositors.

Hello,

I opened  a Fortunejack account some weeks ago and deposited 0,06 BTC. Because I am no betting specialist, I bought some picks over the last weeks at blogabet and made some picks with the 0,06 BTC. After some weeks and some luck I had 0,36 BTC on my account. Yesterday I tried to make my first withdrawal about 0,07 BTC. Normally this takes some minutes livechat told me. But after some hours nothing happens and I became an email:

" We are contacting you in regards to your account status. FortuneJack strictly enforces its policy of not allowing multiple accounts, and your account has been found to be associated with at least one additional account, which is considered illegitimate use of our website.
 
In direct accordance with our Terms & Conditions, winnings obtained by a player found to have multiple accounts are considered illegitimately obtained and will not be credited to the player's account and/or voided. This applies to any additional Games or Services that you participate in with funds obtained from illegitimate website use.
 
Failure to meet the requirements of FortuneJack's security policies can result in any or all of the following security procedures:

- Withhold all active transactions until further notice.
- Withhold all existing financial resources at user's disposal.
- Permanently discard all associated accounts.
 
Please reply directly to this email regarding the multiple accounts associated with your profile.  "



I was shocked, because I never made a Fortunejack account in the past or will do it in the future.

So I wrote them my story and offered them also to give them documents like my identity card which has the same name and birthdate as my email adress. Same I did with my BET365 account and it seems to be normal for verification.

Now, some minutes ago my account balance is 0,06 BTC again!!! Whole winnings were deducted.... No email... Livechat told me that there is a case of multi accounting...



SO BIG BIG WARNING! DO NOT REGISTER AT FORTUNEJACK! IF YOU WIN! THEY STOLE YOUR MONEY!

The problem is that most of the VPNs, especially free ones doesn't offer dedicated and unique IP adress. When more than 1 person uses the same adress on certain product, in this case on FortuneJack, this looks like that user has multiple accounts and is acts their Tos. You may ask why do you restrict our anonimity but again, buy VPN with dedicated IP. Casinos are usually a way of money laundering and it's their duty to lessen or get rid of it. For this reasons, from governments and regulations, they have to implement things thatay not be comfortable not only for you but not for them too. All that casino wants = more and loyal customers but under some circumstances.
1539  Other / Meta / Re: Don't send PMs begging for merits. on: October 04, 2020, 01:55:37 PM
I don't believe that buying high ranking accounts is good. It tends to bypass the selection process, and it is a bit confusing for members. However, lets say a senior exec from a £10billon exchange wants to join - should he have to start as a newbie, when he clearly isn't a Bitcoin newbie?  I would suggest a new rank of "sponsor", and it would be up to Theymos to decide if an applicant is suitable. Posting and advertising rights could be based on either payment, or the status of the sponsor's organisation.
Before registering here, I was actively using this forum for educational purposes but started with newbie's rank. I think that's normal and we shouldn't test someone's knowledge and give them rank according to that but I agree with you at some point. I think we should have a badge like sponsor or verified user, most likely this will be used on company's representatives here, those who make official ANN threads. Verification may be done the way fb pages, twitter accounts are verified on famous persons.

In overall, current merit system needs some significant changes and improvement, we shouldn't stuck on old, first model because time already show us what's happening around it. For example, merits mustn't be given on local boards cause people here think like: Hey, this guy is from my nation, let's unite and help each other.

Merit has turned into business, some guys have tons of merits on local boards where foreigner has no idea what they talk but they don't have any merits on traditional/global boards. Some people even just directly ask for merits to strangers... I think such people should be excluded from merit system, which, as a result cause stuck of their rank.

Those who ask only for merits look this forum as a commercial thing and a way to earn some bucks via posting. When you post without passion and for some bucks, this means you aren't doing thing that you enjoy and don't give a fuck other posts while posting. You visit thread, post, get some bucks and go away, then repeat the same. That's what lowers the quality of content on this forum.
1540  Economy / Economics / Re: Trump's Economy or Biden’s Economy - which version is better. on: October 04, 2020, 11:43:01 AM
~snip
offering to cut more corporate taxes, continue his trade war with China, and promote Private sector in US.

The trade war with China is hurting the private sector. Just look at what's happening to Apple for a concrete example. If you lose an entire market, who cares if you get to pay less taxes?

Taxes are deducted from a company's revenue. Would you rather save ~500 million on taxes at the cost of losing a $44 billion market, or keep the market and pay a little more in taxes? Companies may be greedy, but they are not stupid.
In the last two years, Trump has been too tough on China and has killed small businesses. China has cheap and plentiful labor, and so are its products. Small businesses are too easy to deal with in symbiosis with China and they do it easily.
Maybe they need to change their way of doing things because in the long term China is their boss. Look at Apple, their technology was copied by the Chinese and made a wonderful product.
America is great at Marketing, knows the psychology of people well, they want to be leaders in the world, including economics. To say short, they know how to be a leader and manage others. China lacks this, they are just in position where manager asks his employee to do this thing and manager will take care of others... Hope you understand the point of this... But recently, China is developing well and copied these skills from America. USA don't like this and look china as their opponent. China learnt how to use their resources for themselves and not for USA. That's the reason why Huawei succeed, TikTok succeed, china succeed in social projects. USA looks it as a threat cause it wants to be a leader who will manage others and don't need an opponent. That what Trump wants, to not be dependent on China and use other countries that will offer nearly same opportunities (cheap workers, manufacture...) and won't have an ambitious of cascading waves of change. On  paper, it looks like Trump want to strengthen America but finally the main idea behind everything is personal strength and success.

I don't know their inner politics well but that's what I think personally.

But in overall, election is a versus of good words, hopes and proposals. Those, who have a lot of money and nice words - wins.
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