Just missed it I was going to buy 4 . I'll get in touch with you in a week ? . glad to see you sold that D 1th  . in fact in the next days, I'll send off enough for 4 . so I'm in the Q . make that 8 not four , i read it wrong shipping is 6 bucks cables are 1 buck each ? . won't need tracking there to have on hand . |
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Willing to pay 35 US total . i have a heat sink that fits but really don't feel like drilling holes to match the PCB and i have a heat sink kit for the tube @ 1.3 th but the holes don't match my two PCB i have, i bought brand new, that do work but only one heat sink to match the holes, some one was selling heat sinks with bad boards a week or two ago, i missed out on getting two, i needed two and could only get one. These PCB are the first batch or ones that does 200 GH per board. or this miner https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/review-asicminer-tube-830-ghs-bitcoin-miner-sold-us-112bit-com/Or I may sell the boards on Ebay as a auctions if i can't get that heat sink, I'm to lazy drill holes . later |
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ops sorry about that it's late wrong place
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^you can get away with a bit more than 80% load, but i would absolutely not exceed 90%. for the risks it creates, you may as well just install another breaker+wire run, instead of risking a failure in your wiring.
Yes, I agree. Better safe than sorry! I only wanted to share my experience with running at 100% myself on PVC (Polyvinyl Chloride) insulated wiring. This is the type of wiring generally used inside a home. It's the type of wiring I purchased for my setup. Mine is not inside of walls or conduit. PVC wire heat resistance [On a scale from 1 to 5] is 2. Which means the insulation of the wire would be considered a little below average [or fair] in its ability to withstand heat. Especially, over long periods of time inside of a non-ventilated space like walls and/or conduit. Hence, the reason why I've said I would not push this wire over 80% if it's inside of walls or conduit. The normal temperature rating for PVC wiring can range from 60C, 75C, 90C. Usually, the temperature rating is noted on the packaging but not always. My 10 AWG (10/2) wiring is rated at 90C (194F). Even 60C is 140 degrees Fahrenheit. When I ran my four (4) 30A circuits on 10/2 PVC wiring part of the summer at 95 to 100 percent, the wire and outlets worked well. They did not get too hot to the touch at all. I could keep my hand on them without having to take my hand off. They felt warm but not hot. Remind you, my wiring for my rigs is not within walls. I DO NOT RECOMMEND doing what I did if your wiring is within walls or conduit. I have since added another 30A circuit to allow me to run my circuits at 80 percent instead of 95 to 100 percent. The only reason I've mentioned this is to say what the wire is capable of handling if not inside walls and/or conduit. Am I telling people to do this? No! I'm only informing people of what can actually be done with the wire. I personally believe it would be beneficial to stay on the side of caution by adding an additional circuit(s) to keep them all at 80 percent or lower. Especially, if your circuits are inside of walls and/or conduit. I personally, will run my 30A circuits at 85% when I get all of my S7's. Remind you, my circuits are NOT inside walls and/or conduit. So, don't think I'm advocating for everyone to run their circuits at 100 percent. I would say you could if your circuits were not inside of walls and/or conduit but I would only do it for a short time as I did myself. I put off adding another circuit for approximately 40 to 45 days. My wiring and outlets performed well and did not get to hot at 95 to 100 percent load until I added another circuit. That's all I'm saying... EDIT: The main reason I would NOT recommend running at 95% or higher on this wiring for a long period of time is because air is a poor insulator. Without shielding the strands or even solid wire, an electrical potential can over-stress these air voids between the strands or between multiple conductor(s) and the outer shield of those conductors. This air breaks down or ionizes, going into what's called, corona (partial discharges). This will form ozone and can chemically deteriorate cable insulation over time. If you bought high dollar wiring with semi-conductive strand shielding, It can eliminate this potential by “shorting out” the air. I mention this a lot in my training when the subject comes up about using alligator meter clips with a bed of nails that penetrates the insulation to have contact with the conductors for testing purposes. I explain when the insulation is damaged, an ionization process can occur from exposure to more air [Especially damp air] to emphasize the importance of cutting off the portion of wire they damaged with their meter clips and re-splicing to avoid having potential problems with that circuit in the near future. Those meter clips with a bed of nails are responsible for many of the opens they have in the local telephone loop. Most opens begin at a low resistance value and they increase in resistance as the copper wire gets smaller in diameter over time due to this ionization and electrolysis. http://www.amazon.com/Alligator-Clip-Nail-Angled-Medium/dp/B00M1V7E5A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1447014797&sr=8-1&keywords=bed+of+nails+clip So, again, I'm NOT advocating individuals load their circuits at 85% or higher OVER LONG PERIODS OF TIME! I see I need to be more specific when I elaborate on a subject because it can be taken the wrong way at times. If you are in your initial setup and or install and your wiring is NOT inside walls and/or conduit, one could load their circuits greater than 80 percent without much fear if it's for a short period of time. The longer your circuits have a load over 80%, the life of the insulation for the circuits can deteriorate over time. This deterioration can result in the insulation being more susceptible to higher temperatures and thereby reduce its ability to withstand heat over time. So, if you would like to mine with more rigs but don't have all of your circuits installed yet, you could do so for a short period of time [under certain conditions] until you have the other circuits installed for those rigs to get everything within a 75% to 80% limit. That's all I'm implying. I've done this myself while putting my setup together. Remind you: MY WIRING IS NOT WITHIN WALLS AND/OR CONDUIT! My setup is completed now and enough circuits are installed for the amount of rigs I have at present to keep me at 85% or less. I feel 85% is plenty safe for my install because my install does not have wiring within walls and/or conduit. When I add more power to my setup for more rigs in the next month or so, I will add enough circuits to keep them around 80% or less. I'm presently running my circuits at 67%. Each 15A breaker on my 30A metered PDU's say they are running at 10 amps [Approximately 66/67 percent]. When I get more S7's (batch 6) at 1042 watts each, I will run them at 5 x S7's per 30A PDU. This will be 72 percent of its maximum. I would probably be fine with 6 x S7's (batch 6) at 86.6 percent of it's maximum for a short period when it gets close to time for the move to a new location for my setup. When I do move my setup to another location, I will have every circuit at 80% or less. Hey man ... AT my rate im going to have to have another breaker and line put in or get a new PDU for a 40 amp or 50 amp line and go that way,I'm good for maybe 3 more 30 amp breakers or two 50 amps or two 40 and one 50 amp but id be pushing it with two 40s and one 50s . then i would have to up my service for sure . i hope you do get those what was it 110 th on line in your home?. i don't see why you can't . cya |
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impressive set up you have but to be safe i would have use 8.2 wire over 10.2 who knows later on you may want to put in 40 amp or 50 amp breakers then you will have to change out the wire . Polly could have used less wire and saved some that way with two 50 amps but that's me I'm working on upgrading a few Script miners and holding off on the replacing my S5 to something better and buy a few more used S5, there is some nice deals on ebay atm,till next year , i refuse to pay bitmiains prices i fell it's,wrong, in the way there being greedy.
I know I lived in Texas a few years, 10 years ago and most of my family that is still a live , lives there now, all but one, he lives in GEO .They live Near fort worth Texas or in .I forget what city it may even be Fort worth, i used to live there .
On my sub-panel I only had enough for 100 amps, so I went that direction. I have 250 amp service, so I was limited by that and my friend having a large roll of 10/2 that was free. The runs are only twenty feet from the sub to the L630R's, so it won't be a huge issue to upgrade if it arises. Ufo True, free is good .I would to, my bad for not thinking. BTW, dmwardjr, inspired me the most , i learned a lot one day from him for a few hours . he was very cool about explaining a lot of stuff, i had no clue about, now, it's different, i know a lot. just form talking to him a year ago and knowing what to look for. Cya |
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are the S7 4,86THs version sold out at the moment?
coming a new batch in the future?
if a other hardware on the world, thas is also so good as the S7?
Best Regards
Willi
They are all sold out except for the Batch 6, 4.05TH version. The interesting question will be, are we going to see any more 4.86TH units or are all future S7 going to 4.05TH? Rich why would they, if they can make all most as much at a lower speed and get a way with it. Sorry, i feel that way but i feel they turned there back on us, all but the very rich, etc. I'm not it to make a living but at least make back what i put into it then a little more for the next upgrades but jacking up the price. cya |
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@ Ufo
We finally crossed the hump in South East Texas, average highs in the mid 70's and overnight lows in the 60's and 50's.
I hope that's the same in Maryland we had to turn the air on the other day, for Maryland that's unusually.I'm still walking around in shorts and short sleeve but usually have to use a coat, no coat yet,but stay in shorts til it hit 20 degrees out side.
Went to CostCo last night and it was 58 degrees outside, people were wearing farcking Parka's, seriously. I am not kidding, the fireplaces are already being used since they serve no real purpose outside of novelty. When it gets below sixty it is like when Chicago hits the twenties, but in our defense everyone has jackets and want to use them when they can. I saw a kid at CostCo with an undershirt, Polo shirt, a sweater and a jacket. I walk around in shorts until it gets in the forties since there is so much humidity you get wet and with the wind it's miserable. Ufo impressive set up you have but to be safe i would have use 8.2 wire over 10.2 who knows later on you may want to put in 40 amp or 50 amp breakers then you will have to change out the wire . Polly could have used less wire and saved some that way with two 50 amps but that's me I'm working on upgrading a few Script miners and holding off on the replacing my S5 to something better and buy a few more used S5, there is some nice deals on ebay atm,till next year , i refuse to pay bitmiains prices i fell it's,wrong, in the way there being greedy. I know I lived in Texas a few years, 10 years ago and most of my family that is still a live , lives there now, all but one, he lives in GEO .They live Near fort worth Texas or in .I forget what city it may even be Fort worth, i used to live there . |
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are the S7 4,86THs version sold out at the moment?
coming a new batch in the future?
if a other hardware on the world, thas is also so good as the S7?
Best Regards
Willi
More are coming that hope fully make these prices more reason able, I mean even at 4.05 th and i don't care how much BTC are, to me that was just a excuse for them to be greedy. is to much and not that much less then it was when the S7 came out .The A6 @ 1600 US is over priced to but well pay it. guess the new trend is see how much they can get, screw the rest and one day charge the KNC price for out Dated gear. Sure hope sidehack can get a nice price on a few batch of chips, i gladly pay 400 to 500 or even 700 US , for four of his boards at 4th and mount them on four heat sinks, i have laying around and use a PI to control it, i like that more because more can be done with a PI type controller over the built in pi type on S7 . @ Ufo We finally crossed the hump in South East Texas, average highs in the mid 70's and overnight lows in the 60's and 50's. I hope that's the same in Maryland we had to turn the air on the other day, for Maryland that's unusually.I'm still walking around in shorts and short sleeve but usually have to use a coat, no coat yet,but stay in shorts til it hit 20 degrees out side. |
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I was just thinking that to, he wants to run a S7, if i understand it right, he might get a way with it but i wouldn't over a 14 G wire .
like you said, if that's his only option , that will turn out bad and cost more then wanted .
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The point of all this is to utilize a single residential 120V 15 amp circuit which has a continuous use limit of 1440W.
If It were mine and all I could mine on is 1440w using 120 vAC I would use 12 gauge copper. Or, are you saying the circuit is already there? The 14 is already in place? Maybe clarify the question a bit. Use 10 it safer and cost about the same but that's me. as some one said once : you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it.. ... Just a tip on the wire, he can even use a 110 20 amp over a 10 gauge, which gives a tad more power and a lot safer. only use that line for mining . Later |
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have a 240 line put in if you own the house and can . with a 220 depending on the miners you can plug 12 or more into one line depending on the amps . not really much you can do with a 120 maybe plug in 7 to 8 miners safely before you would need a 220/240 line . Don't forget to factor in the home service 100, 150 , 200 amp or 400 is more for business but poss to have put in your home but might cost any were from 1500 to 3000 K, depending the state and what you need. Stay with copper, I was told by a electrician it's better and safer then aluminum . might cost more, but that's why. . it might cost you tops to have a 220 30 amp or higher, 80 bucks parts included, I also had my 220 30 amp line run with 8.2 wire in case i decide to swipe out the plug and the breaker to a 40 or 50 amp , it cost me 45 to have one run, but i had the parts. if you mine in your home don't use 12 use 10 gauge or lower for either copper or aluminum the wires will heat up even if it's 12 gauge. 14 is real bad for mining or any thing that is not every day use . trust me 14 gauge will melt under a lot of stress . i had 3k running over a 10 gauge wire till I found out how unsafe that was for a 110 line, still don't know how i was able to, but i did it. but that was when i first stated, now i balance out all my miner on a PDU , last thought there are PDU's for 110/120 lines that are safer then the normal plug in, that don't cost to much. |
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The price is so volatile right now, that nothing is guaranteed. Honestly, I think it will level off around 380-390. I don't think it will hold above 400 yet. It is also too early to make any decisions to sell yet since the price keeps swinging. It's all over the place.
It touched $354 and is now sitting at around $365. When the price was going up people were soo excited and predicted the price to go to $600-$700 and now they are comming back on their words. I actually never went that high i hope it goes to 450 to 500 , 600 tops and stays there a while , then starts the climb back up maybe 6 months form now, to me and I'm sure others 450 to 500 would be nice to have a while , i would like to see it at a stable 2 to 3k coin one day, everyone would might benefit at that point . If I'm not mistaken one week/end during this climb didn't it do the same exact thing, it's doing now ? . well see by the end of the week/end and next week. TO fast ,to, slow is bad, but at a slow steady increases, it seems to be better for bitcoins . |
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I see but it is the week end . it may go back up to 400 next week and stay there, it's about were i want it to stay may be a little higher around 450 to 500 would be nicer, but im ok with it now, and hope it doesn't go back to 220 .I mine all my coins and save them or try to till the power bill comes due, it has to be paid.
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BTw anyone I have BFG 5.4 working and hashing on my S5's and still working on enabling it --enable-bitmain using openwrt for the my S1/3, encase anyone assumes the wrong thing about me, I am learning, and it is a lot of fun,I don't ask because I need the help,I ask for tips, i would rather learn it on my own, i have found it is more rewarding . it does run them better then CGminer and before that remark starts anything it just does . I won't go over to CGMNIER thread and post that either, i have to much respect for them .. i hope they don't here either . that said when i get it working on my S1/3's, i will post Sreenie and some details of how i did .
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you don't need the church to believe ... need I say more . and it was more like you said Fatigued posting is fatigued.. to late at nite eyes can't see for crap, i needed to leave the KB etc ... You're right, church is a place to worship, not to rule or make money.. "Break a stick over a rock in the lords name will be your place of worship" (no idea where i got that from) and hell, even satanists have a belief in the lord, they claim him the enemy though.. Anyway, enough of that, this is not the place for it, there is an off-topic post already about this stuff.. all good I took it wrong my bad any way yea off this subject not the place . |
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I was gonna point a date but couldn't find one and if ,I'm not mistaken some one else bought this up one other time and side proved it was him first, . later I really don't know what you just said.
drunk poster is drunk.. Fatigued posting is fatigued.. I Don't drink, i will make that clear right now that a very sore spot for me . I believe in the lord etc that should explain all i need to say . I'm sorry man, i didn't mean to offend, lemmie just edit it for you. Also, I'm glad you found solace in the Lord, back when I was a solder for Salvation Army, I saw many in them shoes.. if you want to talk, PM me, I'm happy to listen and advise to my ability.. if you want to know why I'm no longer part of the church, you can pm me about that too.. you don't need the church to believe ... need I say more . and it was more like you said Fatigued posting is fatigued.. to late at nite eyes can't see for crap, i needed to leave the KB etc ... |
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I really don't know what you just said.
I said some one else bought that up that before and YOU said something about it : I deleted my post . it did make no sense your right . I put the lord in the there it seems to make my point better , but i do believe in him, but form time to time, i need to stop something before it goes to far or others assume the wrong thing because of how I do or say some thing . other wise it's all good .I do have disability which is no joke I'm not kidding , i do try to keep things as normal and on track as i can . I want no pity because of it, just a little understanding that were all different in our own way . later |
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I was gonna point a date but couldn't find one and if ,I'm not mistaken some one else bought this up one other time and side proved it was him first, . later I really don't know what you just said.
drunk poster is drunk.. I Don't drink, i will make that clear right now that a very sore spot for me . I believe in the lord etc that should explain all i need to say . |
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OK, so there is more interest than I anticipated. Here's how pricing is going to go. Using US$0.05/KwH & 4% difficulty, prices will be determined by roughly ROI'ing in BTC in 4 months (minus cost of PSU for PSU-less miners) given current exchange. Prices in BTC added to the OP.
just need a price for the 2 Dragon Miner ofc break them down to hash boards if poss depends how much shipping is , if that's ok . shipping is gonna kill it, i know . I live in the US zip is 21012. PSU won't be a problem as long as they hash Sorry, didn't want to seem rude . I wasn't, I went and looked it up 1600 watts at the wall , i can only do so much with a 200 amp service and i have just about maxed out my first 220 line, i had put in. I'll have to pass due to space for power at that price . but am thinking about the 1 th as long as it hashes ?. no PSU to cut down on shipping how much with shipping with no PSU ?. and how much for one of the 2.3 th miners . i have the coins or cash can convert it just need some more hash power. |
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Don't forget VAT..
Last time I bought the SP20's from you (OR S5's not sure) I got hit with a $48 import tax fee from the fedex or UPS. I forgot who.
Fedex willing to best plus they will lie to you . had it happen once then lie about it then told me there was no charge, i was still charged. how much for the 2 Dragon Miner |
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