Woohoo!!


It works, yeehaw!
..and this is the day where a CLI program was beaten by a GUI program.. lol

Thank you all for your patience and help!
Now, finally, I can move some more gh to p2pool! :-)

edit:
One more question about this:
Its around six computers, with 12 miners (gpus) running. What would be the difference between running six local p2pool nodes and running one central p2pool "server"? As it takes quite long to do a proof-of-work-share, will my efficiency differ? Those miners run 24/7, so it should even out at the same efficiency eventually? I would love to have only one central p2pool node running, but my friend prefers more redundancy with independent computers..

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You have good eyesight! :-)
It looks like a linebreak to me, at least the command I actually entered in the shell doesnt have the space and poclbm does complain when the local p2pool node isnt running..

I have guiminer (with poclbm) running now, will check back every so often if anything changes there..

Ah, it would all be so easy if I could put linux on these boxes.. *sigh*

Ente

No cgminer here, I run poclbm directly (or via guiminer, which is what my friend has running on the other computers).
poclbm doesnt report any hashrate whatsoever.
However guiminer says around 280mh/s.
I had poclbm running over night, not guiminer. Both use the same flags.

Ente

c:\programme\p2pool\poclbm\poclbm.exe http://xxx:xxx@127.0.0.1:9332 -d0 --verbose -f 100 -w 128 -v



Yes, got it from https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool/


Oh, the miner actually says
When starting. I copied the missing phatk.cl here and there, but didnt figure out where poclbm expects it to be, so I still have that error. It seems to to something, so I didnt concentrate on it any more.. May that be the culprit?

Ente

Good morning!

I let p2pool run for the last 10 hours, with around 280mh/s.
Still nothing, it says "0", and no payment neither on the stated adress nor in the bitcoin wallet..


Halp! What do?

Ente

Hmm..
So how long should it take for the p2pool stat to change?

Especially the "0H/s". Will it update once I solved my first share, or a few seconds after I start working with a connected miner?

Ente

OH!
No, I left it running for several minutes only!
So I will solve shares in hours, and the stated mh/s is calculated by the solving-rate of shares?

So I "gave up" pretty close to the goal.. heh
Will leave it runnign for a good while now.

Thank you a lot for your quick help, Qoheleth! :-)

Ente

Finally I got around playing with p2pool.
Friend and me have several miners, once I get p2pool running on one, I will merge them all.
Windows machines, unfortunately..

It seems like bitcoin / bitcoind connect to the net and let p2pool connect.
p2pool seems to be receiving work from bitcoin.
poclbm seems to connect to p2pool too.

However, no work seems to be actually done.

I tried guiminer too, it says 286 mhash, no idea where these are going to..

Excerpts from what the shells tell:

p2pool:
c:\programme\python\python.exe c:\programme\p2pool\run_p2pool.py
xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx -a xxxxxxxxxx

poclbm miner:
c:\programme\p2pool\poclbm\poclbm.exe http://xxxxxxxxxx:xxxxxxxxxx@127.0.0.1:
9332 -d0 --verbose -f 100 -w 128 -v

Guiminer:


Glad for any hints..
And just so you know: Getting that stuff done on Windows was no pleasant experience so far. Will never ever give up my Debian here! :-)
If someone asks, I'll paste my super-condensed step-by-step for p2pool with guiminer/poclbm on windows.

Edit: full logs: http://pastebin.com/aBDP9dss

Grateful for any ideas you have!

Ente

I do this calculation for two weeks now, recording what their (stated) total investment is, exactly the way quoted.
Interestingly, it doesnt work up at all:

I began with 10 BTC, gained up to 11.5, withdrew 10 BTC and left the remaining there.
When my balance was reduced, the payout for me went tenfold, compared to the total earnings from the counter.
Or, the other way round: The amount I invest directly influences the amount I will get paid out.

I check every other hour if the counter on the frontpage changed. If it did, I note down the counter and my balance at that time. Here the numbers:


There are so many proofs and ever open questions stated now showing BitScalper is a scam.
It tells a lot they seem to have gotten (or try to make us believe?) 16k Bitcoins from greedy users, huh?

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Why are people so obsessed in revealing Satoshi?
He obviously chose to stay anonymous, I respect that. If he chooses to come out at Bitcoin's fifth anniversary, great!
There are good reasons to not have him public, think Assange. There is more on the news about the things he is accused of than about wikileaks..

Its a team of people anyway, Satoshi doesnt exist.

Ente

Thank you for the hints, rwcp and Fireball!

Ente

Is it possible to query my open trades and/or cancel an order or at least all orders? With the websocket API, that is?
Didnt see any hint that this is possible..

But then I dont remember to have ever seen the commands to post orders via websocket neither?

Is the websocket for "reading" only, like making graphs from the data?

edit:
So, get data from the websocket, and exectue/cancel orders via "API version 1" then?

Ente

True.. But for moving the funds to their main wallet they at least have to wait for the next block to be mined. If transferring to, for example, MtGox, or even to the main wallet and then to MtGox, its six blocks (or even seven). There were single blocks which took hours to be mined!
Arbitrage gaps dont exist that long, no matter if seven, six or one block waittime.

There is no reason to not move the funds directly to the main wallet, it doesnt cost anything, and it will eventually have to be transferred anyway (for speculation, or for funding the ponzi sceme, or to substract 1.75%)

Nope, I still dont see any valid reason for this behavior.

Ente

edit: read post 366 for an update:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57422.msg718946#msg718946

Exactly that!
Only time can "proof" that they are legit, once they were here for a year there would not be many left to cry out "scam". That is, if there were not all those obvious red flags.


This is just silly.
You DID NOT move the funds from my "sub-wallet" to the "main wallet address"!
Ooh, wait, you actually did move the funds. Now. Today. Six days after they came in. After you made 15% earnings with it. After I withdrew the original 10 BTC days before. After too many people here started to ask about it. Coincidence?

People, please post the "personal wallet" addresses you used to add funds!

https://blockexplorer.com/address/14PAmBAdgjpuPgNi7jYZuUsQpAuxZoeMHv

Ente

Sure its supposed to be a "temporary address" in the way that only I use it, and only once for adding funds. If you would do any speculation at all, you would then proceed to transfer the funds from this "temporary address" to your "main wallet", to then work with the combined funds.

As for me its obvious, you just leave the funds there and will collect them all once you run away with all funds. Until then, you just let some random counters count up, and pay out the small "test withdraws" happening now with the others or your own funds.


Of course they (or the next similar "company") will not make this error again. I am sure our funds will soon start to be sent around in a totally wild way.

Ente

(Sorry for doubleposting on both topics https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57406.0 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57422.)

TL;DR: There are clear facts that Bitscalper is not what they try to tell us, I say scam!

Here are my findings:

I "joined" 10.01.2012 by sending 10BTC. By now I have 11.547BTC. 1% average per day. Doesnt sound impossible to do, huh?

1) I sent 10 BTC https://blockexplorer.com/address/14PAmBAdgjpuPgNi7jYZuUsQpAuxZoeMHv, but they didnt move at all since five days! So they are giving me 1.55 BTC just for nothing? If they dont need my funds to speculate and make 1% a day, why do they pay me that 1%?
Thats a KO for me.

For completeness, here come other, more indicative clues:

2) The user "bitscalper" is new on Bitcointalk. Noone creates such a project without having been seen on the forums before! Let me guess, "oh, our country is so dangerous, we dont want SWAT to kick in our doors". You are at such high risk that you never even mentioned the country's name?

3) The counter "all scalped BTC" and my personal stats get updated a few times a day, but then in pretty large increments. Often these two numbers dont change at the same time. You want to tell me you can dump almost 3k BTC on different, i.e. small exchanges, to take advantage of a few percent arbitrage, without totally flooding that small exchange, and make a few percent gain even after fees? And furthermore, you do this one, two, three times a day, and not several hundred times a day?

4) I won't even begin with the more subtle, but still obvious signs like never stating any surname, not even in mails, using buzzwords whereever possible, seeming to be oh-so open, pleased, grateful for any input, which will make its way to the page quickly. I recognize this "Yes, yes, thank you!" style from the bazaar, immediately before paying three times the regular price.


All in all: If it seems too good to be true, it mostly is. To compare with the Aricie bot (3% loss, then a max of 3‰ plus) and my own trading (a fat loss), this is too obvious too good. I pull out nao.


Lets collect some data, shall we? And to put this in perspective: They received 2814+ BTC by now.


Receiving adress from Bitscalper:                                  Amount:
14PAmBAdgjpuPgNi7jYZuUsQpAuxZoeMHv                 10 BTC

(Sorry for doubleposting on both topics https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57406.0 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57422.)

TL;DR: There are clear facts that Bitscalper is not what they try to tell us, I say scam!

Here are my findings:

I "joined" 10.01.2012 by sending 10BTC. By now I have 11.547BTC. 1% average per day. Doesnt sound impossible to do, huh?

1) I sent 10 BTC https://blockexplorer.com/address/14PAmBAdgjpuPgNi7jYZuUsQpAuxZoeMHv, but they didnt move at all since five days! So they are giving me 1.55 BTC just for nothing? If they dont need my funds to speculate and make 1% a day, why do they pay me that 1%?
Thats a KO for me.

For completeness, here come other, more indicative clues:

2) The user "bitscalper" is new on Bitcointalk. Noone creates such a project without having been seen on the forums before! Let me guess, "oh, our country is so dangerous, we dont want SWAT to kick in our doors". You are at such high risk that you never even mentioned the country's name?

3) The counter "all scalped BTC" and my personal stats get updated a few times a day, but then in pretty large increments. Often these two numbers dont change at the same time. You want to tell me you can dump almost 3k BTC on different, i.e. small exchanges, to take advantage of a few percent arbitrage, without totally flooding that small exchange, and make a few percent gain even after fees? And furthermore, you do this one, two, three times a day, and not several hundred times a day?

4) I won't even begin with the more subtle, but still obvious signs like never stating any surname, not even in mails, using buzzwords whereever possible, seeming to be oh-so open, pleased, grateful for any input, which will make its way to the page quickly. I recognize this "Yes, yes, thank you!" style from the bazaar, immediately before paying three times the regular price.


All in all: If it seems too good to be true, it mostly is. To compare with the Aricie bot (3% loss, then a max of 3‰ plus) and my own trading (a fat loss), this is too obvious too good. I pull out nao.


Lets collect some data, shall we? And to put this in perspective: They received 2814+ BTC by now.


Receiving adress from Bitscalper:                                  Amount:
14PAmBAdgjpuPgNi7jYZuUsQpAuxZoeMHv                 10 BTC

Aah, got it, thank you!

Ente

Whats with that code? Did you see it somewhere on bitscalpers site?
Which would suggest they at least have a bitcoind..

Ente

Interestingly, this comes no matter what you enter as credentials.. So either the website has a problem, or the ser-database is gone altogether..

Ente