You suggest using both a salt and a password there? If people have to remember both (and keep both secret), bitcoins will (more likely) be lost. The alternative, which is how I read your command first, would be to use the same salt for everyone as a default. Which would then be vulverable to rainbowtables.
So.. I think I prefer a passsword only. Or a salt only. Either way, just one string to be remembered.

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congratulations, p2pool, we are on page 100 now! :-)

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I am glad to hear, nice! :-)
You may send your Bitcoin to all users of p2pool (including yourself):

(replace with your own IP, the last "1.0" is the amount)

Alternatively:
1L1XekX17ScocjVvqyJdcJxT81TKVqgtxm
;-)

Welcome onboard!

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"Too lazy for p2pool"?!?
Now that's funny. Even with just 5% less income by not joining p2pool thats like wasting a fresh radeon 7970 there.. lol
Like in "throwing away half bitcoin a day"-wasting.
Well, everyone has different priorities, right?

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..watching this thread here as well.
(besides "Create a game that accepts Bitcoin for currency" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48088 )

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There is a popular MMORPG called Silkroad Online. Now if that isn't a sign! ;-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silkroad_Online

It is pretty big (like in popular), and, remarkably, doesn't cost any monthly fees. You can buy extras and stuff. It seems that is already enough to finance the game?

Also, with "Then program WoW with bitcoin-gold" we obviously are talking about serious money being invested.
If it works, economy-wise, and the player-vs-player as well as quest-part are good enough to play longer than a few days, it would quickly gain a lot of players. Don't concentrate on the graphic (only) at first, make it fun to play.

If done right, this could turn into a multi million dollar venture within two years. I would bet on it. I might even bet money on it. ;-)
It would take a team of pros to do it. But I think it is possible.

edit:
The obvious answer for those problems, if not enough money can be piled up, is to have the players or users or community produce their stuff by themselves. Like in Second Life. You would "only" have to produce the engine, and a storyline..

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Thats what brought me here, Stephenson's REAMDE.
When I read it I was all "hey, Stephenson has to write exactly that book with bitcoin!".
But, of course, the way to go is to program a game with bitcoin as an ingame currency.

I like the idea of an MMORPG. It has deep immersion and high addiction! :-)

I dont believe an alt-chain would make much sense. We don't want to market xycoin, but bitcoin. Players won't do the jump from xycoin to bitcoin, as xycoin is basically worthless and will be seen as a fancy ingame-currency only.

I dont think local mining works at all. Most people will have to use their cpu, only a small part has the right gpu. Those, however, would have too much of an advantage. The average would have a ridiculously low "income". Sure, make 0.0001 BTC one gold. But then there won't be any serious connection to the bitcoin-universe (=economy).. Want to get people buying mining hardware for playing that game? Makes no sense at all. They should and will rather mine regular and play regular independent of each other.

I suggest to only do exchanging between bitcoin and gold period.
Maybe something like this:

- Buy the game, for a relatively small price, online or in a shop.
- Each game has its own bitcoin address, the public one only.
- Each copy has one BTC preloaded.

- Playing costs a regular monthly fee, directly removed from that address.
- Bitcoins are converted to gold, by a changing rate dependent on regular exchange rates.

- Transfer bitcoins to your game's address, voila, more gold.
- Request a payout from your account: cashout
- Any bitcoin transaction may cost you some percent
- Dig/earn gold ingame: get bitcoins on your address


The goals:
- Have farmers farming gold/bitcoin, officially.
- Have people buy gold from the game or farmers, which they pay by real bitcoins.
- Have people do many transactions, like selling/buying gear, earning bitcoins, buying gold, and "tax" all of those transactions
- Have people play a lot, for monthly income

This will be a very wiggly economy. However, the game can influence at the btc-gold exchange rate, basically the real-world connection. As well as adapt the drop-rate and gold-finding rate. Make this clever, and a dynamic yet stable economy should be possible.
With income for the developer and people really using bitcoin as a currency in real-world amounts.

Bonus:

Every game is loaded with 100 gold. At the exchange rate of the week it was printed. Maybe the first games sold have one whole bitcoin loaded on that address, which is a ridiculously high amount of gold two years later. Let the huntdown begin!

Bitcoin really is an advantage here. Farmers around the world will love it. A whole new economy will form around the game and its players. Everyone can participate, where WoW needs a bankaccount or paypal or a gamecard bought in a shop. Which excludes a whole lot of people all around the world.

This would be the first game where you can really earn money, legally, with no risk. This will go so damn viral, oh boy!


tl,dr:
Read Stephenson's REAMDE. Then program WoW with bitcoin-gold. Invite all farmers, underage players, exchanges and businessmen!

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Did you edit the bitcoin.conf file? More precisely, did you enter the username and password you use into that config?

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Incoming connections on p2pool too I guess?
Do you have a static ip address?

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The voodoo, hoo do what you don't dare do people!

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Even when a share becomes orphan, if it included a valid bitcoin block it will be broadcasted, right? There are options for this in the miners, I think, cgminer namely. So the p2pool hashrate doesnt change with high/low orphans. Only your personal rate vs p2pool rate matters.

Am I getting this right?

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Uh, its not DnT whining here? He is setting the statistics facts straight? If anyone, Panda Mouse is whining, i.e. leaving p2pool because of scam or variance, depending on who you ask.

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I am actually not sure if all this Satoshi stalking and fixation is helpful at all.. ;-)

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I think he is asking for individual payouts for individual miners connecting to a single p2pool node, aka "public p2pool pool". Like when miners connect with an address as their username, they get a part of the payout for the whole p2pool node to their individual address.

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So, back to basics then? How about a two-year-revival of:


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Can confirm as well that Guiminer works. Here Guiminer is running with cgminer (poclbm before). I have values for "accepted" and "stales", both "accumulated" and "(hast hour)". Runs stable too, here, over weeks and over reboots too.

As for payout per user: I believe the users have to use the "vip password", then their miner(s) are displayed in the statistics. This was true for the old rrd stats, where all miners are summed up in one graph. I did not test if the "vip password" is still needed for the new, javascript one-graph-per-miner stats. And, this is the hashing power only, not the payout per miner.

Have a look here:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool#Web_interface
Maybe one of those shows info per user?

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Ich komme heute auch.
Ich bring mir ein paar Notizen zu Adressen, Offline- bzw Brainwallet und Vanityadressen mit.

Bis heute abend!

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From which network, bitcoin or p2pool? Those clients are already "removed" in the sense that they are isolated. They may find a block, which then is orphaned. So they have no influence on the main branch of the chain.

What problem do you see? The only problem is, imho, the slightly reduced hashing power of the network, and, from their perspective, the zero income ;-)

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Yes. have everyone update their p2pool/bitcoind/miners etc to be BIP-aware.
There is no "attack" or "problem", there are just miners with outdated, now incompatible software.

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Thanks for reminding me. I still run on poclbm. I did tests with cgminer already, numbers do look better there. I didnt switch over completely yet, though.

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