I have 2 pcb s5 death, and perhaps this morning has burned the 3rd. I keep saying that the chips are built with substandard materials looks like that, some of the stuff on the PCB don't look that good, some of it does as for the high end parts the S5 to me was a fast buck for them and roughed compared to the S3 or even S7 from what a S7 looks like. my S3 are work hoers the S5 at times I'm afraid to reboot it or turn it off to long for fear it may stop . that's how cheap the feeling is get form S5 but so far the three i have left keep going i had five at one time . and they all have done ROI a friends ask me one day was it worth it doing this i said yea then it got me thinking was it really then i looked at when i bought them etc it had done a ROI for me by then , i don't mine to get a ROI either " . My S3 i have no such fear of . even the ones i upgraded
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You have one unique board. I have never seen the double screw in previous post. It is interesting though. Was a blade sent into bitmain and that blade sent back? Just curious if bitmain employee did it or odd batch.
But the paste looks pretty bad. I would get some cleaner/purifier if you want to do it right. And clean all the chips get the old stuff off. Then put on a light covering on entire chip should see paste on all of chip.
The nice thing with some of the pastes above is you would get multiple trys with the tubs vs the higher priced stuff. So for troubleshooting on thermal paste I would go for the tub with quite a bit of quantity of it.
I think i'm the 3rd owner. Or either way i'm missing a good portion of the story. I just know it was long and annoying and in vain. The working board has double hole as well, with the default screws+string however. The miner was sent to Bitmain from the last owner, which received the unit back with the defective blade still, and missing the metal bracket that hold the controller in place. I think he mentioned it working at first for a bit but then dropping after some amount of minutes. He might of tried to fix it and eventually it just died for whatever reason. It still doesn't work so no point in repasting it. If i can't fix it, it will probably be used as some sort of payment/support to Sidehack. I think you are right I wish we had the story behind it. As far as I know it's kinda a one of a kind. I have never seen 2 screws like that. I am still wondering if somehow a RMA did it for something, or maybe someone used it for some mod and needed different positions. Would be interesting to know. And you chances are on right track. If sidehack can get some chips off it might be a good deal for both sides. really, i have one or two S5 with double holes in the boards i bought direct form bitmain 18 pin, i can take pic if you want and the two 16 pin boards i sent to sidehack had double holes . 16 pin boards were batch 1 mostly i think .
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I only offered that option of reflowing because no one else did or was offering any idea if you had got a lot more help i don't think i would have ever said a thing . .
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Do you have a less primitive mean to try to repair it than an oven? It was the only suggestion made to revive a board that i have no real use of unless it can work. If i can't revive i'll probably ship it to sidehack and thats that.
Doing this does not seem like it could damage the chips, so anything goes.
I'm very interested in any other suggestion pertaining to this.
All the other options require expensive equipment and a lot of time. My friend has equipment for repairing, but he does not have time for this. The question is why the previous owner took it off for the first time? Why does he use the wrong screws without springs ? With the greater pressure on the blade and ships with wrong screws, he got it to work or not? Did he get the blade to work 100% ? It was not working, was sent to Bitmain and was returned with parts missing and the blade still not working. He messed around with it after that and did not manage to make it work. It is possible that it was a simple issue and was made worse. Regardless i do not have many options to try to make it work and as i have pretty much paid nothing for it, i can only improve the situation by messing with it further. As long as i do not break the chips that could be salvaged, i don't see any issue whatsoever. Edit i would like to add for clarity, this is what happen when i run it alone on a controller; https://i.imgur.com/Cs5VMor.png?1When ran with a working blade, it instead show ------------------------------------- for the ships instead of ooooooooooooooooooooooooo... etc. question does the lite on the board lite at all , it going to keep showing all zero with one controller it still sees it but for some reason a power or some thing like it on the board won't work or let it connect which can be a bad solider or it needs to be remelted etc which is why reflowing might work or it can just be gone,the chips may be ok just the power line part is bad, i don't even know how to fix that unless you know some one like he said with the right gear and time . reflowing is all ways a last resort and cost nothing and might even work . I sent two S5 boards to some one after I reflowed them he told he got one working so far , so reflowing it won't shouldn't hurt the chips unless you leave it in there to long and i did it as a last resort.
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Did you get that miner used ? Too many screws . Wrong black screws and self-drilled holes in blade. You have been scammed by seller this miner. Yea he right they should all be sliver with springs on all of them. The screw hole look ok . just some screws don't .just looked at my S5 that came direct from bitmain it has the same holes with all silver screws with springs on every screw.
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ID pay either way + plus donate parts . so 50 bucks sound fair to me . I have a S1 board I'll send i didn't think you want, I want nothing in return expect keep it up for US . .
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for paste one of these is more then enough and put on each chip on the heat sink side . http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OGX5AM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 I have tried it with a lot and with a very small drop per chip either way seems to cool about the same with a lot or or with out a lot . these thing are not real PC in the sense the CPU needs just enough paste to make sure it contacts to heat sink with no space more on a real PC can be bad for the CPU . .same kind of here but less or more won't mater as much from win i tested it .The kind of paste will and Arctic Silver paste is the best you can get for anything it seems i do know there is better but off hand can't renumber what brand that's how good it is.
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That's max sorry 5 to 10 mins is best but try not to go over 15 per try mybad .
Okay thank you very much for all the information. I'm still itching to try it with the heatsink on. So if you or anyone else has more information on this, for or against, i'm all ears. I kind of feel like i don't want to spend money on getting more stuff than i already have on hand since i have no guarantee that this will allow the board to function. Hence, kind of wasted money. In the other hand, if i remove the heatsink and bake the PCB. I can probably run it without thermal paste real quick to see if it works? And then if it work it would be worth buying all that thermal paste that i otherwise have no use for. That's max sorry 5 to 10 mins is best but try not to go over 15 per try mybad .if one try doesn't work try again maybe i should have said and increases the time each time and keep a eye on it while it cooks .one try might not work but it's safe to plug into the controller and power after one try with no paste just feel board if it stats getting hot it worked i wouldn't wait for any lites to come on with no cooling unless you can time it right . you can i guess look it up im being safe i read some place some had to and it worked to with heat sinks on .or ask i sidehack in a PM i forgot hes good for that kind of advice , but he may tell you don't can't say or give better advice .
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don't forget thu this is a resort thing it may not work and may work when done right . if it works, your S5, is back to life if it doesn't you gave it a good one . . try not exceed 15 mins at 350 or lower , leave it in the oven after it's done with the door open, let it air cool .above all PREHEAT THE OVEN FIRST DON"T MAKE MY MISTAKE AND HAVE STUFF MELT by sticking it in the oven while it preheats it's not a real reflow oven were you can do that.
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I see, i'm not very knowledgeable with circuits but i do have the tools for this, could you tell me more about what to look for? I can tell what a capacitor is because its a cylinder, but you know thats pretty much it. I could make do with an example however. Capacitors often look just like resistors with SMT (small rectangular blocks). If you google "solder dry joint" you'll get an idea of what you might be looking for. All the parts on the board should be designed to withstand that temperature (though there may be labels etc added after the board was assembled) Oh okay, i was expecting some sort of hub of connections. Thats just actually what a soldered point is called. Gotcha xD Okay i'll start with that. But should i remove the heatsink and look behind? Or should i just leave it there since i don't have any new paste to put on it afterward? So i now have a dead PCB, when plugged and the miner otherwise running, the chip will return ------------------------------- and the voltage across the board is 0. When ran alone it will report oooooooooooooooooooooooooo but won't hash anyways.
Any thoughts? Any thing that can be easily checked to know if the board is salvageable?
There is something you can try but may need a oven and bake it at 350 degree for 5 mins then let it set with the door open till it cools off that worked for one of my S5 that was reporting the same thing . it's worth a try if it's not working now, other wise it may have gone bad . There was a post in German once that explained what it may be with one of the little grays things near the PCIE plug that may need to be placed, I've used the range to repair my router in the past, cooking a populated PCBs sure stinks like hell! I would hope he looks that up first to if hes gonna try it and not do it in a oven he cooks his food in . go buy a cheap toaster oven. here is more on it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflow_solderingyou all most do the same thing making a PCB board .it called Reflow Soldering, had to find out what it is called . how to http://www.computerrepairtips.net/how-to-reflow-a-laptop-motherboard/It can work and did for me on one of my S5 some time ago but that S5 has sense gone up because i did some really stupid stuff to it that made the hash boards beyond repair other then having it thorn a part and fixed that way . Preheat the oven first that's a must DO, don't do what i did, stick it in while it preheated . I really did not expect this as a troubleshoot. I'd be inclined to try it, reviving it is probably worth more than anything i can get for it. And hopefully this won't damage the chips? I do have a mini oven but i'm not sure i can trust the meter. If i do it in my main oven and slap a fan in it for a day or two to air it up, would it be fine? Also the link http://www.computerrepairtips.net/how-to-reflow-a-laptop-motherboard/ is dead to me, does someone else has a trustable guide for doing this? you can do it in your oven i wouldn't because of what might comes off the board and can mix in food . I know a few have and said they clean it out good , im just being safe . there are guides all over the webb for doing it they all say about the same thing, or you can use a heat gun but be care full using one of those it takes some skill to balance the heat with a heat gun which does the same thing . I,d do it with the oven, just wondering if someone actually did it with a antminer blade. I can put it on alluminium or something. And wouldnt the cheap plastic plug pci-e melt at 180c? I did it with one antminer S5 blade and it worked and got it off some one else on the forums that posted a how to with a heat gun . I see, yeah i would do it in the oven. Did you leave the heatsink on ? take off any thing you can remove first. If i do that, wont the thermal paste liquify and drop off, and then i'll need to repaste the heatsink, meaning i can't do this until i get some paste? take that off, clean it up good to be safe, i never tried with paste on it made sense to me not to . there is other stuff you can on it that might help like flux etc but no paste .yea repaste it all ways.
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I see, i'm not very knowledgeable with circuits but i do have the tools for this, could you tell me more about what to look for? I can tell what a capacitor is because its a cylinder, but you know thats pretty much it. I could make do with an example however. Capacitors often look just like resistors with SMT (small rectangular blocks). If you google "solder dry joint" you'll get an idea of what you might be looking for. All the parts on the board should be designed to withstand that temperature (though there may be labels etc added after the board was assembled) Oh okay, i was expecting some sort of hub of connections. Thats just actually what a soldered point is called. Gotcha xD Okay i'll start with that. But should i remove the heatsink and look behind? Or should i just leave it there since i don't have any new paste to put on it afterward? So i now have a dead PCB, when plugged and the miner otherwise running, the chip will return ------------------------------- and the voltage across the board is 0. When ran alone it will report oooooooooooooooooooooooooo but won't hash anyways.
Any thoughts? Any thing that can be easily checked to know if the board is salvageable?
There is something you can try but may need a oven and bake it at 350 degree for 5 mins then let it set with the door open till it cools off that worked for one of my S5 that was reporting the same thing . it's worth a try if it's not working now, other wise it may have gone bad . There was a post in German once that explained what it may be with one of the little grays things near the PCIE plug that may need to be placed, I've used the range to repair my router in the past, cooking a populated PCBs sure stinks like hell! I would hope he looks that up first to if hes gonna try it and not do it in a oven he cooks his food in . go buy a cheap toaster oven. here is more on it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflow_solderingyou all most do the same thing making a PCB board .it called Reflow Soldering, had to find out what it is called . how to http://www.computerrepairtips.net/how-to-reflow-a-laptop-motherboard/It can work and did for me on one of my S5 some time ago but that S5 has sense gone up because i did some really stupid stuff to it that made the hash boards beyond repair other then having it thorn a part and fixed that way . Preheat the oven first that's a must DO, don't do what i did, stick it in while it preheated . I really did not expect this as a troubleshoot. I'd be inclined to try it, reviving it is probably worth more than anything i can get for it. And hopefully this won't damage the chips? I do have a mini oven but i'm not sure i can trust the meter. If i do it in my main oven and slap a fan in it for a day or two to air it up, would it be fine? Also the link http://www.computerrepairtips.net/how-to-reflow-a-laptop-motherboard/ is dead to me, does someone else has a trustable guide for doing this? you can do it in your oven i wouldn't because of what might comes off the board and can mix in food . I know a few have and said they clean it out good , im just being safe . there are guides all over the webb for doing it they all say about the same thing, or you can use a heat gun but be care full using one of those it takes some skill to balance the heat with a heat gun which does the same thing . I,d do it with the oven, just wondering if someone actually did it with a antminer blade. I can put it on alluminium or something. And wouldnt the cheap plastic plug pci-e melt at 180c? I did it with one antminer S5 blade and it worked and got it off some one else on the forums that posted a how to with a heat gun . I see, yeah i would do it in the oven. Did you leave the heatsink on ? take off any thing you can remove first. labels any lose thing that comes off don't force off anything you normally wouldn't take off. and only do this as a last resort as all the guides on the web tell you what have you got lose it wont make it any worse it's not working to start with .
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So i now have a dead PCB, when plugged and the miner otherwise running, the chip will return ------------------------------- and the voltage across the board is 0. When ran alone it will report oooooooooooooooooooooooooo but won't hash anyways.
Any thoughts? Any thing that can be easily checked to know if the board is salvageable?
There is something you can try but may need a oven and bake it at 350 degree for 5 mins then let it set with the door open till it cools off that worked for one of my S5 that was reporting the same thing . it's worth a try if it's not working now, other wise it may have gone bad . There was a post in German once that explained what it may be with one of the little grays things near the PCIE plug that may need to be placed, I've used the range to repair my router in the past, cooking a populated PCBs sure stinks like hell! I would hope he looks that up first to if hes gonna try it and not do it in a oven he cooks his food in . go buy a cheap toaster oven. here is more on it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflow_solderingyou all most do the same thing making a PCB board .it called Reflow Soldering, had to find out what it is called . how to http://www.computerrepairtips.net/how-to-reflow-a-laptop-motherboard/It can work and did for me on one of my S5 some time ago but that S5 has sense gone up because i did some really stupid stuff to it that made the hash boards beyond repair other then having it thorn a part and fixed that way . Preheat the oven first that's a must DO, don't do what i did, stick it in while it preheated . I really did not expect this as a troubleshoot. I'd be inclined to try it, reviving it is probably worth more than anything i can get for it. And hopefully this won't damage the chips? I do have a mini oven but i'm not sure i can trust the meter. If i do it in my main oven and slap a fan in it for a day or two to air it up, would it be fine? Also the link http://www.computerrepairtips.net/how-to-reflow-a-laptop-motherboard/ is dead to me, does someone else has a trustable guide for doing this? you can do it in your oven i wouldn't because of what might comes off the board and can mix in food . I know a few have and said they clean it out good , im just being safe . there are guides all over the webb for doing it they all say about the same thing, or you can use a heat gun but be care full using one of those it takes some skill to balance the heat with a heat gun which does the same thing . I,d do it with the oven, just wondering if someone actually did it with a antminer blade. I can put it on alluminium or something. And wouldnt the cheap plastic plug pci-e melt at 180c? I did it with one antminer S5 blade and it worked and got it off some one else on the forums that posted a how to with a heat gun . it wont melt as long you don't over 400 or leave in the oven past 10 mins i think it is or use tin foil on the parts you don't want to much heat on or use some kind of heat tape on those parts i forget what it's called. but you don't want to stick it in while it is preheating bad idea trust me on that one I learned the hard way things will melt preheat it first. btw that's how most boards are mass soldiered in a reflow oven pretty much the same way .
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So i now have a dead PCB, when plugged and the miner otherwise running, the chip will return ------------------------------- and the voltage across the board is 0. When ran alone it will report oooooooooooooooooooooooooo but won't hash anyways.
Any thoughts? Any thing that can be easily checked to know if the board is salvageable?
There is something you can try but may need a oven and bake it at 350 degree for 5 mins then let it set with the door open till it cools off that worked for one of my S5 that was reporting the same thing . it's worth a try if it's not working now, other wise it may have gone bad . There was a post in German once that explained what it may be with one of the little grays things near the PCIE plug that may need to be placed, I've used the range to repair my router in the past, cooking a populated PCBs sure stinks like hell! I would hope he looks that up first to if hes gonna try it and not do it in a oven he cooks his food in . go buy a cheap toaster oven. here is more on it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflow_solderingyou all most do the same thing making a PCB board .it called Reflow Soldering, had to find out what it is called . how to http://www.computerrepairtips.net/how-to-reflow-a-laptop-motherboard/It can work and did for me on one of my S5 some time ago but that S5 has sense gone up because i did some really stupid stuff to it that made the hash boards beyond repair other then having it thorn a part and fixed that way . Preheat the oven first that's a must DO, don't do what i did, stick it in while it preheated . I really did not expect this as a troubleshoot. I'd be inclined to try it, reviving it is probably worth more than anything i can get for it. And hopefully this won't damage the chips? I do have a mini oven but i'm not sure i can trust the meter. If i do it in my main oven and slap a fan in it for a day or two to air it up, would it be fine? Also the link http://www.computerrepairtips.net/how-to-reflow-a-laptop-motherboard/ is dead to me, does someone else has a trustable guide for doing this? you can do it in your oven i wouldn't because of what might comes off the board and can mix in food . I know a few have and said they clean it out good , im just being safe . there are guides all over the webb for doing it they all say about the same thing, or you can use a heat gun but be care full using one of those it takes some skill to balance the heat with a heat gun which does the same thing . type in some thing like re baking my amd card , cooking my video card or using a Reflow oven there is actually some really nice guides that take you thu a a step step process for making your own oven. that can cost any were form 100 to a 1000 or more if you bought off a company .
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I'll give you 60 for one keep the wireless it's not that great or even worse it .
60 for the carbon scoring one + i send my shipping bill ? .
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okay here are 20 sticks at freq 250 for more then 23 hours one iffy by iffy 100 hw out of 82000 which is under .12 percent 19 perfect not bad. the stud hub on the left has the best 5volt psu for efficiency (90% rating rated for 150watts with no cooling 200 watts with cooling) but it has to be outside the stud hub. So I pulled the board and built a platform to mount it all. I am running 15 sticks the stud hub with 5 sticks has an 85% psu rated for 130 watts temps are 81 f power for the 2 hubs = 128watts in one of your Picture not shown here i saw a USB thingie with digital numbers on it what was that i want one.
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So i now have a dead PCB, when plugged and the miner otherwise running, the chip will return ------------------------------- and the voltage across the board is 0. When ran alone it will report oooooooooooooooooooooooooo but won't hash anyways.
Any thoughts? Any thing that can be easily checked to know if the board is salvageable?
There is something you can try but may need a oven and bake it at 350 degree for 5 mins then let it set with the door open till it cools off that worked for one of my S5 that was reporting the same thing . it's worth a try if it's not working now, other wise it may have gone bad . There was a post in German once that explained what it may be with one of the little grays things near the PCIE plug that may need to be placed, I've used the range to repair my router in the past, cooking a populated PCBs sure stinks like hell! I would hope he looks that up first to if hes gonna try it and not do it in a oven he cooks his food in . go buy a cheap toaster oven. here is more on it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflow_solderingyou all most do the same thing making a PCB board .it called Reflow Soldering, had to find out what it is called . how to http://www.computerrepairtips.net/how-to-reflow-a-laptop-motherboard/It can work and did for me on one of my S5 some time ago but that S5 has sense gone up because i did some really stupid stuff to it that made the hash boards beyond repair other then having it thorn a part and fixed that way . Preheat the oven first that's a must DO, don't do what i did, stick it in while it preheated .
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So i now have a dead PCB, when plugged and the miner otherwise running, the chip will return ------------------------------- and the voltage across the board is 0. When ran alone it will report oooooooooooooooooooooooooo but won't hash anyways.
Any thoughts? Any thing that can be easily checked to know if the board is salvageable?
There is something you can try but may need a oven and bake it at 350 degree for 5 mins then let it set with the door open till it cools off that worked for one of my S5 that was reporting the same thing . it's worth a try if it's not working now, other wise it may have gone bad . There was a post in German once that explained what it may be with one of the little grays things near the PCIE plug that may need to be placed,
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