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2181  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA - profitability vs effeciency? on: June 01, 2013, 08:39:53 AM
The BFL FPGAs in this shot are doing between 830-877Mh/s that's pretty good, better than any of my GPUs


http://serason.com/BFL1.jpg




http://serason.com/BFL2.jpg


2182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Was DGC delisted on coinchoose or what? on: June 01, 2013, 07:41:33 AM
DGC was on Coinchoose a few hours ago and disappeared, at the time it was up near the top of the chart in 2nd. palace from memory, so it's not though lack of performance that it has been de-listed.

It's still doing fine on coinwarz  http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency
2183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: GLDCoin - A Heavily premined coin, does it make sense to mine it??? on: June 01, 2013, 05:21:36 AM


its under litecoin trading now instead of the BTC... both those sites.
Found on Cryptsy. Thanks for the tip. Can't see on Coinchoose.
2184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: GLDCoin - A Heavily premined coin, does it make sense to mine it??? on: June 01, 2013, 04:58:25 AM
dead

Gone from Cryptsy and  Coinchoose already.



god people talk shit around here.
They certainly do, especially the ones that don't check the facts before they criticize.

2185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A solution to the crapcoin announcements on: June 01, 2013, 04:12:57 AM
onecoin twocoin redcoin bluecoin


Black coin, Blue coin, Old coin, New coin.
This one has a littlecar.
This one has a little star.
This one just wont go far!
2186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: GLDCoin - A Heavily premined coin, does it make sense to mine it??? on: June 01, 2013, 03:26:06 AM
dead

Gone from Cryptsy and  Coinchoose already.

2187  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Got my JALAPENO today mining at 5.9 Gh/s with some tweaks on: June 01, 2013, 02:44:23 AM
Grats on actually receiving  one!

What's the other BFL units in the picture, FPGA?

I noticed there are 5 HW errors in that photo. Might want to look into that.



2188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] New Crypto Currency FRANKO on: June 01, 2013, 12:42:22 AM
Franko on Cryptsy has gone from 0.0899 on May 28th. down to 0.00122 today what's that down by 98.6%.

Buyers are 0.0899 are probably not very happy today. I bought at 0.007 and I am not happy.

Give it time, it will float back up when the market comes online.  It looks like the price is already bouncing up some today.  Almost back at .002 now.

It might, but it's the miners that read this thread who set the price when they sell. If they are just going to dump a coin at any price to get rid of it without working out how much electricity the coin owes them, then it has little future. There is no point in a coin that is not supported by intelligent miners.

2189  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL ASIC STATUS 5/29 on: May 31, 2013, 06:57:32 PM
If one miner is earning BFL $8k/month, why would they sell it, for $2500?

Because currenty there is a huge uncertainty of difficulty. Theoretically you could make a ROI in a couple of weeks, but in reality it might take 2 months, and after that first month any further gain might diminish very fast, so eventually it could take 3+ months to get the investment back, and there is also an exchange rate risk, the price might drop

I think after the network reached 1PH, the further increase of hash power will not be that fast and ASIC pricing will back to the traditional 3 month ROI standard

I see that argument over and over about why not mine with the gear instead. If it takes an hour to build a single and get it out the door,  how much could you mine with a single in that hour? I doubt if you could get much over $10 worth of BTC in that time, but you can get $2500 if you sell the thing and get it out the door. It's far more lucrative to sell the hardware then it is to mine with it. Sure once sales drop off then mining becomes an option.m But the sales orders would have to drop off to less that one single every 10days before mining generate more revenue at the current difficulty.


2190  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: BFL is shipping on: May 31, 2013, 09:40:43 AM
http://bfl.ptz.ro/
1 guy has it delivered, unless he's some sort of employee.

That list is actually being update from time to time. I counted about 40 people delivered last time I looked, and of course a whole lot more that never knew about the list.


2191  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL ASIC STATUS 5/29 on: May 31, 2013, 12:57:28 AM



It could be a more advanced long con.  Their CEO or whatever is a convicted con man, and spent time in prison for fraud.  It's possible that he has learned from his mistakes, meaning he is now a "better" con artist.  The "best" con men tend not to go to jail because they operate inside the law as much as possible.

Here's an example...  Let's say Sonny is drawing a huge salary and one day BFL announces that their venture has failed and that they are declaring bankruptcy.  It's clear where the money went - right into Sonny's bank account.  What did he do illegal?  Will they be able to put him in jail?  

The person you are trying to smear,  posted a long straightforward explanation of the events on this forum last year, why don't you take the time to read it first?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110868.0





Who did I smear?  He is not a convicted con artist?  He did not spend time in prison for fraud?  His father was not a professional con man?
You don't even know the name of the CEO of Butterfly Labs do you?

Another troll.
2192  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL ASIC STATUS 5/29 on: May 31, 2013, 12:51:13 AM



It could be a more advanced long con.  Their CEO or whatever is a convicted con man, and spent time in prison for fraud.  It's possible that he has learned from his mistakes, meaning he is now a "better" con artist.  The "best" con men tend not to go to jail because they operate inside the law as much as possible.

Here's an example...  Let's say Sonny is drawing a huge salary and one day BFL announces that their venture has failed and that they are declaring bankruptcy.  It's clear where the money went - right into Sonny's bank account.  What did he do illegal?  Will they be able to put him in jail?  

The person you are trying to smear,  posted a long straightforward explanation of the events on this forum last year, why don't you take the time to read it first?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110868.0


2193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Abort Cryptsy on: May 31, 2013, 12:29:04 AM
Main thing that bugs me with Cryptsy is the incessant need to login all the time, other exchange have a way more sensible session timeout.

2194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] New Crypto Currency FRANKO on: May 30, 2013, 11:36:02 PM
Franko on Cryptsy has gone from 0.0899 on May 28th. down to 0.00122 today what's that down by 98.6%.

Buyers are 0.0899 are probably not very happy today. I bought at 0.007 and I am not happy.


2195  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL ASIC STATUS 5/29 on: May 30, 2013, 10:41:53 PM
If one miner is earning BFL $8k/month, why would they sell it, for $2500?
(if you don't take into account the AM blades, that are heavly overpriced).
LOL Oh man I can't believe people sometimes. BFL is priced too low, so they must be mining to compensate. ASICMiner is priced too high, but they are blatantly mining on the hardware before they sell it (currently at what, 30TH/s?).

Love it.
When people want to smear something, they will twist any feature or point to the negative even if it means becoming obviously hypocritical. Just watch politicians during an election campaign, all ethics goes out the window.
2196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] eMulah (EMU) - NOT a BitCoin fork/clone - call for beta testers on: May 30, 2013, 10:38:12 PM
Electronic Monetary Unit
EtherMoney Units
Easy Money Use
2197  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL ASIC STATUS 5/29 on: May 30, 2013, 09:14:30 PM
Easyminer  photo at 52GH/s showing 58C temp with case on.




https://forums.butterflylabs.com/attachments/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/1207d1369940031t-may-29-2013-asic-update-discussion-thread-butterfly-labs-shows-their-asic-minner-bitcoin-2013.mp4.jpg



2198  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL ASIC STATUS 5/29 on: May 30, 2013, 07:02:18 PM
crazy temps I see Cheesy this board die very soon

Since when is 76C crazy?

I run my GPU's at that all the time mining for years.
I'm sure AMD/Nvidia use a higher quality process.
Proof?
2199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I have a suggestion for a new currency on: May 30, 2013, 07:01:13 PM
That's an inflationary currency, that will inflate faster as time goes on which you don't really want.

Ideal you want a steady, nominal, consistent rate of inflation, or none at all.  The jury is still out on whether deflationary will prove better.

Only if nobody mines it and the hashing power remains the same. However that would mean we don't reach the later blocks anyway. It's quite obvious that the current system implemented by BTC is extremely flawed, more and more people pour killowatts into mining BTC each day and the reward gets less and less. The price rise in BTC has not been enough to compensate for the difficulty increases for ages. CPU and older GPU's cant cover their electricity cost. It's even worse for the alt coins that are trading below the BTC profitability.

Not saying what has been proposed would be an answer, just pointing out that there is a problem which needs an answer.

2200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Consolidating Digital Wealth on: May 30, 2013, 06:54:15 PM
When a coin is divisible to 8 decimal places, it's kind of useless to have a "rare" block reward...BTB will not hit the price you expect it to hit.
Agreed,
this caper of making people have to think in fractions will never work in fast retail.

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