I don't care a whole lot... but I do care a little bit about this pirate thing because I think it affects the $ I can sell my BTC for. So this pirate mess begins and out comes this wacky 10k BTC bet.
Ordinarily, when you make a bet with someone... both parties show their money. That isn't how this 10k BTC bet works though.
Little new users make their bets. 10 BTC here, 20 BTC there. And before you know it, 1000 people have little bets that they will pay out if they lose. Further, if asked, most of them would show their ability to pay by signing an address.
But not Matthew. He flatly refuses. So there are various ways this will play out.
Matthew wins the bet and the little guys pay him.
Matthew loses the bet and he pays. Great... That still wouldn't answer why he is unable to show NOW that he has 10,000 BTC.
Matthew loses the bet and doesn't pay. This means he was either unwilling or unable to pay. The unwilling part is always an unknown unless you're dealing with an escrow. The winning party is often at risk of the losing party refusing to pay, but this is one of the few times the potential winners are at risk of the losing party being UNABLE to pay. Whether he is unwilling or unable doesn't change the press after he defaults.
"Large Crypto-currency better defaults... Once again proof you can't trust Bitcoin or the people associated with it..."
It hurts the community a little and it's totally unnecessary.
Your fears are justified. I am not intending to troll -you- then, just the people adamant that I don't have the funds to back it up. Your concerns are respected and I apologize for confusing you with people who just talk shit about me (it's becoming noisy around here). I can prove I have the funds, as I've said numerous times, it takes effort to move the funds where I want them just to prove, and it's not instant, so aside from yourself, if any other individual who is obviously trolling, wants to make a statement such as "I KNOW FOR SURE HE DOESN"T HAVE THEM. HE'S A SCAMMER", that's what this thread is for-- imposing a stupid tax on them. Furthermore, none of the betters have bothered to ask me to prove it when betting, it is only -non-betters who seem worried. Why would I jump because people say to who aren't even the invested parties? This is where your lack of imagination is clear. You assume too much. |
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We do need a list. It's imperative, not just for public interest, but to prove the bets that are currently going. Is there a spreadsheet available?
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I will be accepting up to 100BTC in bets. When the 100BTC is reached, I will prove that I have over 1,000BTC to my person and you will lose the bet. ...
Let the games begin!
This can be the start of a whole genre of bets against self awareness. A bet against what a person knows about themselves. Anyone want to bet 50 BTC against me that I am not a robot. I show my non-robot passport and you will loose. Conversely, if you can reveal my electro-mechanical inner workings then I will loose. Exactly! It's it brilliant? I propose we impose this FUD Tax constantly. |
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I really don't give a shit if you have the money or not, you just run your mouth endlessly.
This thread is for people who believe I don't have the money. Please ignore it otherwise. |
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Why don't you simply post some address with zero BTC on it and send 10K to it?
There are two possibilities... 1 - He made a $100,000 bet and is unwilling to prove his ability to pay because he thinks it's funny. 2 - He doesn't have it and he keeps making more bets because he thinks it's funny. Which seems more likely to you? 3. You're all loud mouthed conspiracy theorists who refuse to learn your lesson on the first bet, so it will take additional bets to sufficiently make you start thinking before you talk. Last time I checked the first bet has not even been settled yet......how was one to learn a lesson from something that is still undetermined? Less talk, more action. Who here thinks I can't prove I have the funds? Free money! |
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Why don't you simply post some address with zero BTC on it and send 10K to it?
There are two possibilities... 1 - He made a $100,000 bet and is unwilling to prove his ability to pay because he thinks it's funny. 2 - He doesn't have it and he keeps making more bets because he thinks it's funny. Which seems more likely to you? 3. You're all loud mouthed conspiracy theorists who refuse to learn your lesson on the first bet, so it will take additional bets to sufficiently make you start thinking before you talk. |
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Why doesn't everyone just give me their free money since they're so sure of themselves that I don't have 10,000BTC? Place your bets and I'll do exactly that.
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Why don't you simply post some address with zero BTC on it and send 10K to it?
Because that would be giving trolls what they want -for free-. I don't work for free. EDIT: I misread what your point was. I actually -will- be doing exactly that, but only after there is enough money to be made from loudmouthed suckers who are so sure I don't have it. |
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That's right! There are now literally hundreds of people who have missed the entire point of the Pirate bet (Don't accuse people. harass them, and pretend you know what you're talking about) and have now begun to harass me, thinking I don't have even 1,000BTC and that I'm -only- risking my forum account. That's just ignorant. So it seems I have to impose another FUD tax on the community. I will prove I have over 1,000BTC freely available to me. If you do not believe this will happen, place your bets here in the following format: 20BTC
13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM
Optional comment
I will be accepting up to 100BTC in bets. When the 100BTC is reached, I will prove that I have over 1,000BTC to my person and you will lose the bet. If I cannot, then the entire community would know if I was going to scam them in this bet thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=103059Let the games begin! |
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Can you prove you have even have 1,000?
Place your bets in the proper manner. Prove you actually have the funds to pay me if I do. So now all you want is me to prove I have 1,000BTC? You don't care anymore if I have 10,000BTC? Time to make a for more meta threads. "I'm offering 100% ROI to anyone who thinks I don't have 1,000BTC to pay out." "I'm offering 100% ROI to anyone who thinks I don't have 100BTC to pay out." "I'm offering 100% ROI to anyone who thinks I don't have 10BTC to pay out." "I'm offering 100% ROI to anyone who thinks I don't have 1BTC to pay out." I do care if you have 10k when it comes to you paying on that bet. But that's not the topic of this thread. This game is kind of like when you put a card to your head and bet on who has the high card. In this thread, you're saying you'll pay up to 1,000 BTC if you can't prove you have 10k BTC. I'm simply skeptical of your ability to pay should people call you on your bet. It has nothing to do with the other bet. Right, so don't bet on this thread, bet on the meta threads. |
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Can you prove you have even have 1,000?
Place your bets in the proper manner. Prove you actually have the funds to pay me if I do. So now all you want is me to prove I have 1,000BTC? You don't care anymore if I have 10,000BTC? Time to make a for more meta threads. "I'm offering 100% ROI to anyone who thinks I don't have 1,000BTC to pay out." "I'm offering 100% ROI to anyone who thinks I don't have 100BTC to pay out." "I'm offering 100% ROI to anyone who thinks I don't have 10BTC to pay out." "I'm offering 100% ROI to anyone who thinks I don't have 1BTC to pay out." |
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Can you prove you have even have 1,000?
Place your bets in the proper manner. |
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That's right! There are now literally hundreds of people who have missed the entire point of the Pirate bet (Don't accuse people. harass them, and pretend you know what you're talking about) and have now begun to harass me, thinking I don't have 10,000BTC and that I'm -only- risking my forum account. That's just ignorant. So it seems I have to impose another FUD tax on the community. I will prove I have over 10,000BTC freely available to me. If you do not believe this will happen, place your bets here in the following format: 20BTC
13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM
Optional comment
I will be accepting up to 1,000BTC in bets. When the 1,000BTC is reached, I will prove that I have over 10,000BTC to my person and you will lose the bet. If I cannot, then the entire community would know if I was going to scam them on the Pirate bet ahead of time. Let the games begin! P.S. Don't even think I have 1,000BTC? You should be here instead: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=103063 |
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you are taking a big risk fully trusting someone based off ID and social networks.
And with great risk comes great rewards. You are right of course, but I chose my path. I think you're absolutely right and I appreciate your advice though. |
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I bet most of the laughter has already taken place. Maybe left one more week of laughs. Then it will just get quieter.
*crickets.wav*
I'll take that bet! I'm very optimistic that the best laughs are still to come, especially when The Bets are decided. He who laughs last, laughs best. Besides, when has Bitcoin ever failed to provide fresh drama and new sources of lulzy hilarity? *bwahahahaha.wav* BTW, MY REAL NAME IS CHEN> |
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#22 (if you feel like answering extra questions) : Based on your past history you seem to lack faith in any anonymous person yet you make a 10 000 btc bet on an anonymous person with (for the most part) anonymous people?
This is actually the final question! (Count them again and see for yourself!) I do think doing any business with anonymous people is downright ridiculous, at least without escrow of some sort. As for Pirate, I've said this a dozen times at least -- He's not anonymous. And the betters? only some of them are. The larger wagers are individuals who are well known. |
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Instead of constantly discussing whether some secret bitcoin conspiracy is going on, can't we just wait until pirate is out of time, or Matthew had won/lost his bet, and find out for sure?
Haha you must be new here. |
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But it either is a scam or is made to look like a scam (which is a scam in intself).
And there you have it ladies and gentlemen, we've come full circle. Even when it's not a scam, it's a scam! |
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