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2281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cash out or keep playing? on: November 03, 2023, 02:09:06 PM
Cash out is used in games like sport which means to cash out at lower price before the match is over or to wait until the match is over. What you meant is withdraw your money on gambling sites or to continue playing.

I am using trustworthy casinos and bookies, but if I win, I withdraw the winning immediately. I play for fun, I am using little amount of money, but I prefer to cash out and use the money for weekend.

       -   Of course, take out your winnings if you know it's a winning one to make sure you have money to take home, especially if you think it's a source of income for you. We know that if you continue to play, the house edge will surely get back to you.

That's why we gamblers should be careful and wise when playing gambling; as much as we can, we should be wiser than the house. That should be our strategy as gamblers.

yes I agree with what you said, but if he continues the game of course there will be a risk of losing the winnings he has got, it is better if we get a better victory to secure the victory by withdrawing all the winnings that are clearly obtained not recommended to continue the game that is not certain to get the victory back. When the victory is late in getting this is where self-control is tested whether we will be able to limit (stop playing) by securing the winnings obtained, or continue the game (greed) which is certain with the risks involved.

It all depends on the mindset, I myself if I get a win will secure the win by withdrawing all winnings and leave gambling to rest for a while without thinking about anything else. So everyone has their own choice, and we ourselves will determine the future. But in my opinion, a wise gambler will not continue his game if he has won.
2282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you gamble till old age or not on: November 03, 2023, 01:31:56 PM
This is why it is good to do all our hustling when we are young, so in our old age, we'll focus on relaxation and engaging only in things that makes us happy.
There are many sayings that while you are young, enjoy your life by gambling and looking for something fun when you are old, you should enjoy your old age in a relaxed manner with your family and grandchildren, after all, who wants to continue gambling until they are old, although maybe there are those out there who do it, but I'm sure they won't feel calm and happy in his old age with his family.
Gambling is stressful, and not good for the health of old people, they deserve to have peace of mind and be out of stress.
Enjoy life while we are still able to do that but for some limitations, becoming old is the perfect time to let it go and adapt to the new environment that we belong to (oldies).

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I also personally still look for fun in gambling in almost all the casino games I play and other things, but I don't think that the gambling I play is to make money or gain wealth, all of them just want to find fun from gambling, after all we know that casinos It was built to provide entertainment, not to share money, the point is to gamble only when you are young and stop when you feel bored and old.
That is supposed to be as gambling should be considered as a form of entertainment, not a source of living. Unfortunately, the opposite view seems to happen by most gamblers, they think that gambling gives them fortune and a better life but in the end, they fail.

maybe when you are at that point, you can still gamble but just not too hard on yourself. just enjoy and use whatever money you can toss with your friends. there's no chasing losses anymore or waiting for your winnings. you just play because you want to pass time and have fun with your friends. it means, gambling should not be stressful anymore to you. but just another avenue to entertain yourself along with your friends.

Yes that's right, with the aim of entertainment alone, it's true that you don't pursue losses because in my opinion when you are old, it's time to enjoy life to the best of your ability without thinking about anything that will burden us so that we can enjoy old age in peace. but there are also those who gamble until old age and in casinos there are also gamblers who are old but they gamble just for fun and nothing more than that maybe they do this because they already have a lot of money and choose to spend their money by gambling but not by pursuing profits.

I myself will enjoy old age without gambling, I will prefer fishing or communicating more with people around so that no boredom is created. but life is a choice so everyone has their own rights to choose their future life.
2283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: November 03, 2023, 12:28:53 PM
In my opinion, the most important thing is how we can set money limits when gambling, so that we remain conditioned if we lose and we won't lose much in this case. If I win then I will stop first to enjoy the results of the win, and when I lose maybe I will only gamble once or twice with a small budget, and the most important thing is to always be aware that gambling is just luck that we are not sure of getting, so we stay under control and prevent addiction.
But everything will change after you enter the gambling room when you theoretically set a betting limit or your budget limit but usually it will be ignored when your state of mind too focused on emotions and loses control of yourself in the end and continues to chase defeat and that all usually happens when A losing streak is attacking you.
But that doesn't mean your tip is not good, it just that it would be more perfect if we accustom our minds to thinking that gambling is not the right way to waste large amounts of money because all our money will be lost by the bookies and keep thinking about that, I'm sure everyone this can be one way to continue gambling responsibly.

Yes that's right, I myself think that no matter how well they play, they will end up losing too so that their money runs out even though they play with defeat after defeat, they are not aware of the defeat they get, but they are increasingly ambitious to be able to turn things around, I laugh when there are people like this, they have been deceived by the bookie who clearly cannot possibly turn things around. It is unlikely that they can turn things around even if they win it will not be equivalent to the many losses they have experienced. That's good. Getting used to playing with the limits set or discipline in gambling is a responsibility in gambling.
By establishing good discipline, it is unlikely that they will be heavily addicted to gambling.
Some gamblers do not even care about staying responsible whenever they gambler. Some people just think they more you bet the more you could earn with time. There are people that can bet from morning till night on casino games and the more they play, the more they tend to win and lose. Sometimes after a long bet on a casino, there winnings might be much but they still see it as a responsible profits. We should always endeavor to be responsible whenever we bet and take due actions that will prevent us from being an addicted gamblers. Gambling is supposed to be gradually not for us to rush it because we have target.

But what they got was defeat hahaha. Even though they play from morning to night and so on like that, in my opinion it will not bring the possibility of victory, and also with patterns or tricks in my opinion it does not exist in gambling because it only relies on luck that is in favor or not.

I hope those who get the winnings can control themselves to take all the winnings they get instead of continuing the game that they cannot be sure they will win again, by taking all the winnings they get and stopping for a while from gambling it is one of the good responsibilities. that way they can be said to have self-control in gambling because they can limit the game by taking the winnings and taking a break from gambling.
2284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Health Benefits of Gambling on: November 02, 2023, 07:22:04 PM
I agree with the research stated in the article, moreover I myself have experienced this when I play gambling, especially slot gambling, I really like the animation and also the adrenaline that comes out or appears when I play slots but I can still control myself, when I feel , I am not lucky in a few rounds so I will change the game I play, I will not stop until I run out of capital, gambling will not be bad if we only use it as a means of relieving stress or entertainment because when you want to get rich quickly from gambling then I hope you prepare yourself to end up disappointed.

The thrill of every good spin in gambling is indeed very pleasant, everyone feels it and I think they will also agree with my/your assumptions above. It's an adrenaline rush and when the spin or even the final result is in our favor then obviously you will feel great pleasure. But on the other hand, don't let yourself be fooled by everything that looks fun that you see there, most people are deceived by their own assumptions and expectations, starting from fun and continuing without any restrictions at all, which finally they think that the opportunities that exist in gambling can really be used to make a living, honestly that mindset is not recommended.

I hope you stay firm on your control and limits, don't put more hope in gambling, because casinos only want you to lose, they give one win just to tempt you and then they will continue to make your losses even more dominant.
2285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed or risk on: November 02, 2023, 05:43:03 PM
since the amount already grow more than a double, it only means he is about to win huge so why cashout instead.  it don't make sense. they only do that when they are not confident anymore but usually when they cashout its almost guaranteed more than half the amount is lost.

if it were me its a win. and let the game end to celebrate victory. the odds is quite not the teams favor actually so he is rooting for the underdog.


Once we won a big amount of money then  there's a possibility that it will doubled or  trippled  and if it will happen then we can cashout it all away. If we do not want to cashout and then we risk our money there's a high possibility that we loss all our funds. So it's better to think twice which is better if we are gonna cashout right away
but it's up to the gambler if he will withdraw  or take a risk  but there's a high chance of loses.  But for me cashout is the best  option.

However, in my opinion, if someone gets a big win, they will most likely increase the bet value because at this time greed will take over them so they are not satisfied with what they get, of course this will be bad for them by increasing the value of a small bet to possibly get a bigger win.
It's true that you said it's up to them although withdrawing everything is the best option but it seems difficult to withdraw everything because those who are dominated by greed think this is an opportunity for them to get bigger. However, many of the gamblers I think will return to play by increasing the value of the bet because of the dissatisfaction they feel even with the risk of losing back the winnings they get, I myself think that winning big and increasing the value of the bet will actually spend everything they get back. Because opportunities don't come twice.
2286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: November 02, 2023, 05:10:44 PM
In my opinion, the most important thing is how we can set money limits when gambling, so that we remain conditioned if we lose and we won't lose much in this case. If I win then I will stop first to enjoy the results of the win, and when I lose maybe I will only gamble once or twice with a small budget, and the most important thing is to always be aware that gambling is just luck that we are not sure of getting, so we stay under control and prevent addiction.
But everything will change after you enter the gambling room when you theoretically set a betting limit or your budget limit but usually it will be ignored when your state of mind too focused on emotions and loses control of yourself in the end and continues to chase defeat and that all usually happens when A losing streak is attacking you.
But that doesn't mean your tip is not good, it just that it would be more perfect if we accustom our minds to thinking that gambling is not the right way to waste large amounts of money because all our money will be lost by the bookies and keep thinking about that, I'm sure everyone this can be one way to continue gambling responsibly.

Yes that's right, I myself think that no matter how well they play, they will end up losing too so that their money runs out even though they play with defeat after defeat, they are not aware of the defeat they get, but they are increasingly ambitious to be able to turn things around, I laugh when there are people like this, they have been deceived by the bookie who clearly cannot possibly turn things around. It is unlikely that they can turn things around even if they win it will not be equivalent to the many losses they have experienced. That's good. Getting used to playing with the limits set or discipline in gambling is a responsibility in gambling.
By establishing good discipline, it is unlikely that they will be heavily addicted to gambling.
2287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Relying on gamble wins is dangerous to mental health on: November 02, 2023, 04:09:39 PM
There's surely a time that you would really be on this kind or type of situation on which you are already having that feeling of sure win and just like you said that on the time that you do feel that you have already that grasps of your money but suddenly the game turns out to be still a losing one then it cant really be that denied that the feeling or rage inside or kind of effect into your mental
state is there plus having that impulsive emotions then it would really be giving out that kind of damage even if we do say you are really that good on handling your emotion but there are really
moments that you would really be snapped and ending up on having that kind of scenario on which you would really be that losing your control and come worst that you might
be ending up on making those actions that you might havent been able to do before.
Yes, I agree with you because there is a time for everything and I have also experienced incidents like this, although I can often control my emotions, but when my body is a little tired, my mind is confused because of work and I choose to gamble to relieve stress, but in the end I bet on sports betting at that time. also using multi bets there were only 2 matches left that hadn't started but the winning money was already visible before my eyes but I decided to continue my bet after it turned into a loss and that's when I became angry and sorry for myself that I should have enjoyed the win but failed because I took too many risks.
This kind of incident is very common and almost all gamblers have experienced it.

Therefore, we as gamblers must really have good self-control, do not expect victory by being too ambitious, just take the victory as a gift from your approach to gambling, it is better to be a responsible gambler by being able to accept the final result even though it is bad, rather than you convincing yourself too much that at the end of the session you will get a win while it has become clear evidence that the final result can never be predicted, so from that I conclude that it is nothing more than you making your own expectations and then being disappointed with the results. Gambling with the aim of relieving stress is true because basically the sensation of gambling is quite fun and it can treat your stress a little.

 That's the greed in gambling, you've given one example of what you've experienced, don't be greedy and don't overdo it, even though victory almost seems to be in sight but it's not certain, meaning there still has to be luck that confirms that you really won in that session. My advice is better to allocate funds that you can afford to lose only, because then whatever the final result you will not be too disappointed especially losing, I think you have to train yourself to be a responsible gambler.
2288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Winning Wisely: Strategies to Protect Your Bankroll on: November 02, 2023, 01:50:26 PM
Clearly, many people want to make gambling their steady source of income, but this is a risky goal. It is a difficult idea to think that gambling can go from being a fun hobby to a steady source of income. Its a difficult task because of the risks involved and the fact that the results are hard to predict.

Your point of view emphasizes the psychological side of gambling, where people keep going because they want to win, even if they know they probably wont. Smart advice to be careful not to have such high hopes is given. It makes sense and is necessary to approach gambling with the knowledge that its mostly for fun and not a surefire way to make money.
It is normal that many people want to make gambling their source of income. But they should be able to see what happens to people who want to do it because they only experience defeat rather than winning.
It is difficult to use gambling as a source of income even though we try as hard as we can. We must have self-control when it comes to gambling.
And we also have to protect the balance in our gambling account by always placing restrictions on gambling.
Only then can they enjoy gambling and can prevent themselves from losing more.

Why can you say that it's normal? Try to explain in more detail. Indeed, people's thoughts are different. I even think it's not natural, if they are lonely, bored, or what why should they run to gambling why not to other things that are more useful, as you said yourself "naturally" maybe you are one of those people who when bored or lonely then run to gambling, try to explain the details, I want to know what thoughts are in people like you who divert boredom or loneliness to gambling.

In my own opinion, everyone knows that gambling is not a good thing, gambling is something that will have a negative impact physically or mentally. Even though it is clear that many people have been adversely affected by gambling, do they not care about it? do they not consider it seeing many people who have been adversely affected by gambling. They should be able to see people who have been adversely affected by gambling and consider it if they want to gamble. It's none of my business, but I'd like to know the expression of someone obsessed with gambling who is promised a righteous win.
2289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed or risk on: November 01, 2023, 06:30:14 PM
That was pure luck, and for me he just take the risk and that risk was worth it. If he has to take another risk I can call that a greedy move. If I was the one won that amount I will surely cash it out because that is enough for me and my family to survive.

That's right, there's no reason for you to keep chasing the win by increasing your playing time and increasing your budget because there's absolutely no guarantee of winning. It's really just about luck and whether or not you get lucky in your sessions, the fact is that one can never know when they're going to get lucky and walk away with a win, if it was predictable then there wouldn't be gamblers who suffer so many losses.

Taking a risk that you can be responsible for a bad result is better than putting a large amount out of greed and assuming that the winnings will be greater, the question is what if you lose? Yes you will be silent and maybe cry. So there is no reason whatsoever for you to chase victory and be greedy, everything goes randomly based on individual luck, there are no guarantees and certainties. You should pay attention to this statement it seems.
2290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beginner needs your advices in gambling. on: November 01, 2023, 06:04:41 PM
Do you think Me starting gambling would effect me in my real life or make me addicted to gambling. What’s you suggestion and advices.
In gambling games you can get addicted, especially with low capital, of course it will not satisfy the game longer with curiosity, you may continue to deposit again without being based on it.
You must be able to set a percentage to bet and how many percent every week, when the percentage is up you must stop immediately and never force using real hot money you can be addicted further and have an impact on your life, especially financially.

I think the small budget for the initial approach to gambling will not be a problem, you just came and you haven't felt the big thrill of a much bigger win, usually everything will start from small things that will at least cure your curiosity in something like gambling maybe. So I think it's too early to say that small capital will make you addicted, because usually addiction will occur when you already feel a big win, although I can't make sure it's entirely true but of course you are quite right because indeed addiction can occur anywhere and with any capital budget, but because you just tried it then maybe your addiction will not be too significant especially if the final result is losing.

Exactly, those gamblers should really pay attention about their budget allocation for betting, do not overdo it, because there is no guarantee, do not make gambling opportunities as your main reason why bring large capital because the final result is always uncertain. Putting money that you can be responsible for is better, don't put money for other needs on gambling because it will only cause problems if the final result is not to your liking, because you will never know when you will be lucky, so it's better to always minimize it.


2291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: November 01, 2023, 02:08:50 PM
this means as a gambler, we should also value our family because when things turn up side down, they are our last hope
The family has utmost concern about its children, gambling, in some cases is more like an addiction and they'll always standby their own even in those times of addiction, more reason why the family is supposed to be aware of one's gambling attitude.
The fact is that what we see is that when someone has become an addict they forget themselves, even as if they feel like they don't have a family so they care more about themselves and the pleasures of their own world, that's what happens when I see a serious addict who plays too far so he forgets his family. just to gamble, even when he wins, he never remembers to celebrate with his family, instead he spends money to have fun with female entertainers.

There are many cases like that, so always be in control when gambling and never forget the obligation to look after and protect your family, that is very important because they are the ones who will help us whenever we need it, especially if we gamble too far and the addiction is too deep, I believe that our families are the ones who are at the forefront of healing us from this addiction.

Yes that's right. most of the gamblers who get a win will be like that, by forgetting their families when they manage to win a big win. Even the family that can accept him when the hardest situation will be forgotten if he has succeeded from gambling, but few people can only succeed from gambling. Many of them lose and become a burden to their families because even though they have enough income it will feel less by playing it in gambling.

And when they run out of money then they will ask their family to be able to return to gambling. of course this is one of the effects of gambling, with the destruction of their own finances and even families can also be affected. I don't think it's natural that those who gamble should involve their families because they themselves gamble while their families don't know anything. So I myself thought I would hide my gambling from my family, because I think basically no family would allow their family members to gamble.
2292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and it effects on: November 01, 2023, 01:43:22 PM

We all know that gambling will have a bad impact on our finances and mental health, but the fact is that many people's continue to gambler even though they already know the impact. They gambler with the aim of making money, even though it is impossible to make a profit, but the fact, is that we often find thats they want profit in gambling game, hypocritical if someone doesn't want to winning in gambling.

In fact, gambling was created to be a fun game, even though you have to risks money to play the game, having the ambition to make big profits will actually make us even more uncontrollable, therefore we should be wiser in using gambling without having stoped, if we are able to carry out it appropriately. recommendations that we set and we will not experience bad impacts and will not experience gambling addiction.

Yes, we need to be wise in gambling. I have witnessed many people with decisive personalities and firm stances in life. But when they gamble, they become addicted like everyone else. One reason to avoid gambling addiction is another factor. I compare gambling to drugs. Addiction will still cling and torment even those with a strong stance. So, what factors help players not go down the path of addiction?
Gambling addiction is indeed difficult to cure, just like drug addiction, it requires someone who supports them to be able to stop, but my definition above is "using gambling wisely without having to stop" doesn't mean we do it continuously but do it occasionally and doesn't mean it stops completely, right? ?? This is very difficult for someone who is familiar with gambling and can stop it completely, we will definitely one day be tempted to do it again.
Using gambling wisely means we have to be good at allocating time and finances well and responsibly.

Those who are already heavily addicted to gambling and have damaged their mindset because they only prioritize gambling no matter what they will continue to gamble because that's what makes them happy even though they often lose. Just like drugs, with addictions like this I make sure they will find it difficult to leave gambling and it is certain that their future will also be damaged due to gambling addiction. Criminal acts that they will commit when they are at the lowest point of gambling addiction. Of course this will harm themselves and others. So it's true what you said about the importance of telling them the bad effects of gambling.

Gambling wisely is only done by a few people. Because most of those who gamble never think about the future they gamble only on principles that are unlikely to happen or even impossible to get. It's true what you said even though those who managed to stop playing gambling occasionally will definitely have a feeling of wanting to return to gambling. I won't know what they will do but what are the chances that they will return to gambling or not at all? no one knows what people's thoughts will be in the future.
2293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: November 01, 2023, 01:23:25 PM

When a gambler is addicted to gambling, he's not just a threat his personal life and future but also a threat to everyone around him including family members. An addicted gambler is very ready to to anything that'll provide him the money to continue his gambling including stealing and other illicit activities that are condemnable by the general society. That's it's very important to notify anyone who wants venture in to gambling to leave how to gamble responsibly or leave anything that has to do with gambling.

I have a family who is addicted to drugs but I think they have the same principle because, in my observations, they are willing to sacrifice anybody just to fill their needs because they don't really care about anyone anymore as long as they get the means to do their addictions. Just like the story I always relate concerning this topic, when our neighbor befriended a gambling addict, they won't give him peace because whenever he loses all the money from playing cards, he goes to ask for money from them even in the middle of the night where everyone is sleeping and this is a real story because I witnessed it myself. this is how mad they are and they cannot just simply stop whenever they want.

You say drugs are the same, I think so too. Addiction to gambling is not much different from addiction in that those who are already heavily addicted will feel a phase when they have no money at all and in themselves really want to gamble, just like drug addiction, right?
At times like this, they can do negative things that can harm other people who don't know anything like committing crimes or stealing or anything so that they can do the habit called addiction.

When they play by forcibly asking for money from anyone, it also includes the bad effects of gambling because those who are already heavily addicted so it is difficult to leave it. In addition to playing time as you say they play in the middle of the night continuously, of course, it is also a bad impact that will damage their health and their mentality. The magnitude of the adverse effects of gambling if they are already heavily addicted, so it is difficult to get rid of this habit.
2294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: October 31, 2023, 07:12:32 PM
One of the solutions which is recommended by most gamblers on this forum for gambling addiction is "Therapy" . Professional help in the form of therapy. It is good and very effective but how many persons can actually afford it? There is a fee for each session that lasts for a duration of 60minutes. And there are more than one session. Therapy for gambling addiction is expensive. How can those who are unemployed afford it? How about the college student? Or the person receiving minimum wage. What are the other low cost but very effective solutions to gambling addiction. And typically how long will it take before the addict starts to feel more in control and less withdrawal symptoms?
Will totally appreciate your responses. Thanks.
Well, this is likely difficult situation but I think looking for some alternatives will be the best choice and there are lot of free consultation online. I believe there are solutions for it if you look for them and you're really that willing to be healed from gambling addiction. It's you or someone near you that persevere to make that happen, look for alternatives until you'll be able to afford it.

Simply put, every time there is a problem, there will definitely be a solution that can solve it, not that it is impossible or difficult but maybe they just haven't found the best alternative to solve their addiction problem, because of course everyone has a different way of solving their problems, what you think is effective doesn't necessarily mean it will be useful if applied to other people's problems. Therefore I think only they know about what alternatives can be done and of course what can really be useful to overcome the problem, especially gambling addiction, it really involves a person's mental and psychological, so only they know.

Yes, they can use free consultation servicess online, and I hope that those of you who are addicted to gambling can be open to those who will help you, because with you open, people will know what actions to take that are clearly in accordance with what you need for the healing process.
 
2295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What according to you should be the age to retire from gambling ? on: October 31, 2023, 06:03:09 PM
It's not about age, I can't say for sure that you or anyone else can stop gambling or retire at a certain age. Retirement in gambling depends on your involvement in the activity in question, you can't be sure when you should stop, of course, because gambling is very mentally and psychologically involved, if at an old age it turns out that you still don't accept the losses that have befallen then you will continue to do the activity because of the impetus of emotions and always want to be able to recover losses.

Well don't focus too much on that, the point is not to target when you have to stop gambling, let's look at it from various sides, is it profitable? if you realize that this activity only complicates your life with the many financial problems that come then why not decide to stop from now on? I would ask that if the fact that happened is that you experienced a lot of financial problems after entering the activity. Although yes I understand for those who are already addicted it is difficult to do, but that doesn't mean you can't, don't involve the age factor here but think about what is more important than that, which is trying to quit from now on, slowly, it's better.
2296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: October 31, 2023, 12:08:29 PM
It is very hard to quit gambling, it takes time to minimize gambling but quitting totally is not an easy decision to take, this is why it is advisable for people with poor decision to avoid gambling don't even gamble because it's effect might ruin your life, remember a chronic gambler can do anything to gamble, even though it takes him to sell his valuable asset a lesser amount to gamble he wouldn't mind because he believe that he can replace one he win and even gamble more with the remaining profit, I will say quitting gambling is very difficult, this will occur by the grace of God that's if the person is ready and willing to change.
I think give up gambling is difficult for both types of gamblers. It is not easy for those who enjoy gambling and those who are addicted to gambling from both of the sides it is difficult to give up gambling. However, those who enjoy gambling can take a temporary break or a long-term gambling break if they want, but those who are addicted cannot take a break from gambling even if they want, as long as they have money. In some cases the gambling becomes so much that it seems that it will not be easy to give up gambling if God does not favor.

Of course it is difficult, for heavy gambling addicts they will do anything to be able to gamble, the same thing with drug addiction, both of these things have a heavy addiction so it is not easy to stop and leave them. it is unlikely that people will succeed in quitting gambling, only if they have a consistent attitude and are sure of their intentions. if they can't stop completely at least they should be able to reduce their playing limits which usually play every day to change to only playing on weekends.

Maybe this will be difficult too but if they don't try it's useless, it all depends on themselves, even though there is encouragement and support from family or relatives and friends it will be in vain if he himself has no intention of quitting gambling addiction. only they themselves can change their lives the rest is just advice and input that he must consider, so it all comes back to yourself, whether he can consistently leave gambling or not at all.
2297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Flip or Trade? What’s The Bigger Gamble? on: October 31, 2023, 11:37:30 AM


Trading is very different from gambling. Your job is done! Sports betting and futures trading have a "science" behind them. You have charts, data, history, etc. Besides luck, it's all about strategy

Now, how about some gambling games? Totally different game. You can't forecast a roulette move with a chart, can you? You can't. In trading, you've got tools, tools, tools. You have history and data. Analyze, forecast, strategize. But in gambling? Just you and Lady Luck. She's fickle. Gambling and trade are different, although some features are comparable. Remember, always play it smart, whether you're betting or trading
For the fact that,  gambling have no draw down rules that can and should be followed just like we have workable rule for trading,  that alon make both incomparable and largely different to each other in terms of their operations and realities,  some time we may feel that both gambling and trading are same in practice since both have almost similar risks and available measure of unpredictability of the future outcome,  only that similarity alon os not enough to categorized both into same or being on the same pages at some point.
I don't know why there are still people out there who think that gambling and trading have the same thing even though it is very clear that they all look different in any form and from any point of view there is nothing in common at all, except for the risks which may be almost the same.
If there is choice wise person who can manage finances will definitely choose to trade because it can be predicted and calculated more accurately, every profit and loss that will be obtained is very different from gambling where everything is uncertain.
Not really that totally a discussion after all on which we do really know that it isnt really just the same.Yes, both could have that risks but the level of risks would really be entirely be different plus
we know that gambling is for entertainment and trading is for money making/business/investment or whatever you do call which correlates to it on which it is really that needing that serious approach if you do want to succeed but of course this wont really be that so simple that could really be achieved on which considering that risks  is still there but it is really that much more better and more worth
if we do compare on gambling games.

There is no similarity between trading and gambling. it is annoying to compare these two things, because each of these two things has advantages and disadvantages. Only winning and losing are the same in these two things, but smart and wise people will definitely do trading and investing instead of gambling because when it comes to gambling people know that just by mentioning gambling they already understand that this one thing is not good, but with trading they will consider this a good thing. indeed not much different, but in my opinion it is better to trade or invest than gambling which certainly has fatal bad effects. Trading or investing can still be avoided by learning things related to trading or investing, by learning things there is less chance of losses to be obtained, although an expert in trading must also be wrong in predicting.
But I am confident in trading or investing, because looking back there are many people who are successful because of trading or investing, of course this is a good thing for beginners who have just come down to the world of trading because they will take a little or a lot of knowledge from those who have experience trading or investing, because these two things in my opinion are better than gambling. So I myself will choose trad

Flip or trade? It would really be according into your own interest because leisure time and business/investment kind of dealing will really be totally different when it comes to approach.
Trading would really be just turning out to be a gamble if on the time that you arent really doing any analysis to it which we know that it do really require or needed up such
action for you to take advantage and able to handle yourself on an unpredictable market.

In contrast to gambling that can be done without much knowledge, just put a bet and wait for the results, of course this only relies on luck. But I make sure that people who gamble a lot of them experience losses by losing every round, because they know or maybe they don't realize that what they are fighting against is a machine that has been set up by insiders, of course they will not just give victory. gambling is created to make money not give money, this is just a game not a job. Indirectly they will spend the money the players have.
So trading or gambling still has risks, it just depends on which of these two things is better. But I suggest better trading and investing because this will be clearly profitable if we have mastered or learned things related to these two things.
2298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: October 31, 2023, 10:47:31 AM

I think one of the factors why people want to gamble is because they have a friend who gambles and tells them to try it because it's easy money yet they don't look that they might lose. They just aim to win and not look into the other side of gambling. Some of them are lucky and some others are not, as simple as that. Just accept the fact that we don't have the same luck as others. I play slot machines online, sometimes I win and sometimes I lose. That's how gambling works.

Yep, that is the sad truth behind in that matter "greed" we are always thirsty for money.

Yes indeed, there are people who will invite you and allure you that gambling is a place where you can easily double your money, with luck beside you chances that it might happen is high, but what else after that? You will keep trying to repeat that same outcome and realize that it's not that easy and instead of winning, you will lose a lot of money.

There's always a big risk when you step inside gambling. If you don't have the right sets of knowledge and if you are aggressive in trying to recover your losses, expect that worse will happen and you may go far into addictions.

Yes there will be friends or people who will invite to play gambling, it depends on us but if they convince you that gambling can double more money that is true, but it is unlikely to be able to double money in gambling because it is just a game not a money printing machine. Many of them have been deceived by the guarantee of big wins said by gambling admins. Those who play only think about the victory that will be obtained little of them think about the impact of gambling, are you one of them?

The risk of gambling is definitely there, let alone the impact. It will harm them if they cannot control themselves then they will suffer in the future because of gambling. this will damage their future which everyone wants a good future, but if they are addicted to gambling it will be difficult to get a good future. Still better with those who gamble only on weekends or occasionally, they can still control themselves so that they are far from the word addiction. So as much as possible those who gamble should be able to control themselves.
2299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: October 30, 2023, 07:37:37 PM
you're right when you think of slots as a game where you shouldn't bet more than you can afford to lose @LUCKMCFLY but this is regardless of your budget if you min budget allows for at least 50 or 100 times the minimum bet...

maybe you're not playing for profit, only for fun

if you have no disposable income available for games at all then disconsider this comment, of course.

That's because the luck factor always can't give any certainty about the answer in the end, so of course you shouldn't allocate money that you can't be responsible for whatever will be the answer at the end of the session, especially defeat. And that means you can only allocate any amount that you can basically be responsible for the final result, none other than this will be very useful as a precaution for what has happened, for example if you place a budget that you absolutely cannot be responsible for and you budget a large amount because you want the winnings to be large but if you finally lose, you will definitely be upset and emotional, then you will lose control and finally regret it because the amount of loss is very large.

For those who play slots or any gambling that is definitely about betting that is very attached to luck with the aim of just looking for fun and not at all to earn then I think it doesn't matter as long as you or they are still awake and firm in terms of control and several other things that aim to prevent.

That's right, they should take your comments into consideration if they don't have the budgetary capacity to allocate to some of the bets, because it will only jeopardize and cause a lot of new problems.
2300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: October 30, 2023, 07:07:01 PM

Recognizing those changes can help you to adjust and to try coping up and battle against this issue inside you, gambling addiction came from irresponsible gambling practices, addiction begins when you keep pushing your way in winning with the games you play, at the beginning you just wants to enjoy and you are only being entertained but along the way, you will see that your appetite start to increase and your desire to keep on playing will lead you to engage a lot, without setting any limitation eventually you will see yourself going deeper and addiction already inside you and it's going to be tough solving this problem which already developed inside you.

The gambler should tackle the responsibility for the money he adding to the gambling sites,So he never try to blame the site for the loss.The gambling was the game and this was my mostly said words to my area local gambler.Because they start to blame the gambling sites after the little loss in the game.This is not the good opinion by the gambler after the loss,did the same gambler will blame the gambling sites for the big win.I had started the gambling few days back with the initial of 100 dollars and increased to the value of 350 in total.So the profit is 250 dollars,which is 2.5x of the initial money,this type of miracle only happen in the gambling sites.

Considering how much of their budget they can afford to lose is one of the best responsibilities of a gambler, allocating money that will be fine if lost is very appropriate. I hope that before they get into gambling they should look from various sides about the risks that will befall them there, being a responsible gambler really involves self-awareness of the facts that are already listed and that must be obeyed. If you can understand all the conditions along with the risks that you will face and you accept them gracefully then I think there is no reason for you to blame the casino for your loss.

Yes, of course gambling is nothing more than a gaming activity that will give you a feeling of pleasure because of the sensations you can get. Basically, understanding the activity and also being willing and firm with yourself consciously that whatever will happen you will remain graceful, it will be the initial solution so that in the end if something unwanted money happens then you will not blame anyone including the casino itself. Because of course this is just a game based on luck, there are no guarantees and nothing is certain, so whatever happens you have to be ready from the start.
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