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1721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling are mainly for rich and lucky mind. on: November 28, 2023, 07:12:25 PM
It is obvious that no good thing that come easy and when you are not lucky in gambling you are not lucky and a lucky person in everything he tries might still be a lucky person on gambling because i dont see what you know you do consistently and is not favourable to you yet you are still in it, that is stupidity to a reasonable man and even if your taking it to be for funs but definitely you are spending carelessly on it and truly the mindset of a gambler is to get not to loose and on a casino game a real gambler must wisely have a plan and adhere on rules to actualize it target and rich gamblers stake high in a low game which is possible to win but does not get addicted  because he analyse and strategize before staking so if it is not favourable to you does not mean is not favourable to some lucky persons and these are the mindset of rich person(mind)not of the poor person (mind).

OP, I agree with you that gambling is a luck game but the strategies you mentioned are not certain to occur, gambling is not a game that someone can say that he or she knows it all be it casino or any other game, no matter the approach you take in gambling when you want to lose you will lose woefully, is only a greedy gambler that does not understand that gambling is a two ways stuff is either you lose or you win, having in mind that you will win in something that you are not sure of, will amount to foolishness, people can be luck in other things but when it comes to gambling they find it difficult to win just a stake, gambling can be misleading and is not something your can be proud of despite how you see it, I disagree with you that gambling is only for the rich, gambling is for everyone that finds it interesting such person has to take whatever he or she sees on the way.

Because gambling is a luck-based game that will determine whether the final result will be in accordance with what you want or not, therefore I will not believe in some ways such as strategies that they always say that it can increase the chances of victory or luck, one of the reasons that makes sense is as I said above that this is just a luck-based game, so with that alone can be concluded that whatever method you use it will not fully affect, I have tried several times like that and still the results are disappointing.

So the point is just play as you like, don't race too much with some methods like others because obviously even if you gamble carelessly if you are lucky then you will also win. For those who always act greedy on the other hand I am sure that they are addicted, their mindset is different and not in line with healthy people in general, they always overthink, as you said maybe they don't know that gambling is about winning and losing and what will determine victory is only luck, while on the other hand whoever it is will never know when they are lucky. So what's your excuse for acting greedy after reading this? Won't that just make you worse off for losing? All of this is nothing more than a game.
1722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: November 28, 2023, 06:32:18 PM
Having that knowledge and having the right mindset when you are already inside gives you the chance to stay or to keep your composure,  as knowing the risk and still continuing your participation will give you lesser chances of becoming addicted,  if you know and understand everything,  you can control and be responsible enough to avoid addiction.
We know the basic fundamentals of the system, some of us derived joy in ruining our plans unexpectedly, when we continue to gamble without any plans for proper entry, just triggering positions because we just wany to win, we forgets that there's existence of serious hardwork, because we're easily moved by what we see, talking about what we see, I mean we're more open to gambling and it consumed the higher portions of our activities and mind. There are numerous tips to stay on the lane of been a responsible gambler in the system. We're not here to make accounts for losses, rather we're here to milk the system.
However, we must be able to be responsible and control ourselves while gambling so that we don't get addicted. Many people have lost their responsibilities while gambling until they end up gambling too often and not controlling themselves. It was a big mistake for them because they didn't remember what their purpose was in gambling and what they had to be able to gamble safely. Yes, we are easily moved and tempted by what we see, but if we have responsibility, self-control, and so on, we can definitely take good care of ourselves. We can also prevent ourselves from gambling excessively.

It's what you should do when gambling and also on the other hand it's the only action you can take if you don't want to experience a lot of problems or downturns as a result of the gambling you do. Having full responsibility for whatever happens will be very useful for results that will not make you disappointed or that means if you are a responsible gambler then from the beginning you have agreed with yourself for whatever the result is, especially defeat you will be able to accept it and also besides that the benefits of having responsibility then I think you will not act out of control, because usually out of control behavior will arise when you cannot accept the results of defeat.

I think for people who lose responsibility it's because they can't be strict in setting their boundaries so over time they get carried away unconsciously and end up experiencing emotions that make them behave out of control. Of course, all of this negligence occurs because they cannot resist all the temptations that look tempting when in fact it is just a trap from the casino so that you keep playing and end up losing like other gamblers. Good responsibility and understanding the correct concept of luck will make your interest less significant in seeing the chances of winning, with that then I think you will have no trouble implementing prevention.
1723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: November 28, 2023, 12:39:30 PM
That is a story that should be an example for people on this forum, thank you for sharing your story here because the lesson from this story certainly attracts the attention of all of us to play responsibly and wisely so that we don't get addicted to gambling, as you said, you have consciously make mistakes and casinos will never be wrong because they prepare games for entertainment but it seems like you are playing too seriously.

I know that it is difficult to recover losses, sometimes there are those who succeed and there are also those who fail, but those who succeed are definitely not many of those who fail, that's why never chase and recover losses, let alone losses in gambling, don't always bet all the money It is hoped that you will win, because in gambling there is always a risk of loss and defeat, I hope this will be a lesson for all of us to gamble with money that we are ready to lose and not try to borrow money to gamble.
 
yes that's right, addicted gamblers should immediately realize what they are doing is wrong, especially if they have borrowed money for gambling capital I hope they can stop gambling which will make them feel addicted continuously, don't let their lives get into debt because for gambling this is not recommended. As much as possible if they really want to gamble they should use the remaining money or more money than they have, that way they will not borrow from others which of course this can harm others because most gamblers who borrow money for gambling find it difficult to return it or pay it off.
Borrowing money will only make them difficult in the future, with heavy addiction plus a lot of debt, it will make their lives not calm, where their daily lives will feel anxiety. because of the desire to gamble and also the debt that will haunt them every step of the way. So if they still want to gamble, please avoid this one thing.
1724  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: November 28, 2023, 12:08:55 PM
It's true that you said that gambling as a hobby is a big mistake, but if it's for people who have unlimited and endless money income, it doesn't matter, I see many old people in casinos who play gambling even though they are a hobby. old but they still gamble not to mention the women who accompany them and also the bodyguards they have. This makes them have untold wealth or endless income, so they can still gamble even though they are old and even though they have physical limitations such as disabilities because there are also those who gamble using wheelchairs. It is possible that they do gambling in their old age because that is the only pleasure they have in gambling and that is the only place they can get pleasure, this cannot be denied because everyone has their own rights. It's just that what's wrong is people who have limited money but still insist on continuing to gamble. Rich people who gamble until old age tend to only seek pleasure not victory, in contrast to people who have limited money, they gamble by pursuing victory, while victory is difficult to obtain, if you are unlucky you still won't get what you want. And that will only make them addicted.

And to cure that addiction is a difficult thing to do just like self-control, easy to say but difficult to do. Not to mention if they have a stubborn nature, it will be very difficult to give advice to them because people who have a stubborn nature and are addicted to gambling may rebel or fight when advised because they cannot accept themselves being advised. The most important way is to give lessons or whatever it is that will make them aware of themselves, if they still can't then they themselves have to feel something that can make them aware, it sounds difficult if someone else makes them aware, but it's the same as those who have to make themselves aware. So they will not easily get their consciousness just like that, maybe it needs other people like family who have to make them aware, or their own wives if they are married maybe that can help make them aware even though it sounds difficult but I think it can be done, because effort will not betray the results if it is for a good thing there is nothing wrong with trying it. and in my opinion they need to be accompanied for the healing process so that they can be more enthusiastic about getting well. Actually, there are many things that can be done to awaken those who are addicted to gambling, one of which is to provide firm behavior, there must be people who dare to order them to leave their addiction habits, with firm behavior it might help them leave their addiction habits.
It's okay to make gambling a hobby but we have to remember that it can only be done by people who have unlimited income, as you said. Meanwhile, there are still many people who don't even have a fixed income but still often gamble because they have the hope of being able to win at gambling one day. This hope is what makes them continue to gamble using money they get from anywhere because this hope becomes even greater when they win some money. But if they still can't change their mindset, they will only experience defeat, which will probably get bigger until they can't control it. That is why we can only use gambling as entertainment and not use it as a place to make money, let alone make it a permanent income. Many people have tried it and they only failed when they were unable to generate income from gambling. If they want to make gambling a place to earn a steady income, they are better off creating their own casino and doing promotions because that will bring them an income that will be even greater if their casino becomes more popular.

Those who continue to try to use gambling as a place to earn a steady income will only become addicted to gambling, which will become even worse because they have lost control of themselves in the first moments of their introduction to gambling. And when they are addicted to gambling, this ultimately makes it difficult for them to cure it, especially if their gambling addiction has become worse because they will just refuse to admit that they are addicted to gambling. Indeed, people who are addicted to gambling will not easily realize that they have a gambling addiction and even though people around them have warned them and told them the truth about their gambling addiction, they will not want to admit it. If people around him never give up on always reminding him about his gambling addiction, there will be a moment that can make him realize that he is already addicted to gambling. He will ask the people around him to help him immediately before he becomes addicted to gambling. Even worse. This will be a way to try to cure people who are addicted to gambling by taking them to an expert or psychiatrist so that they can get better treatment for curing their gambling addiction.

And that's where it goes wrong, with limited income but they still insist on continuing to gamble by aiming for big wins, they are not aware of the true meaning of gambling, if only they could realize that gambling is just for fun based on games, maybe they wouldn't have lost so much, It is important to have boundaries and a good mindset because of this, those who chase the victory unknowingly have lost a lot of money, may not have a good mindset and do not have boundaries in gambling, so they can spend a lot of money to gamble with the big wins they pursue. Right what you said, I think they are better off opening their own casino that will generate a lot of profit for themselves, but how to open a casino? they just gamble with the aim of getting a big win in the sense that they need a lot of money and that means they don't have a lot of money, if that's like that how can they open their own casino? just gambling with the aim of making money. Maybe they have to wait until they get a big win or what is called a jackpot, then they can put shares or open the casino they want. Quite impossible, but there's no harm in hoping hahaha.
1725  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: November 28, 2023, 11:34:02 AM
Not everyone can control themselves when they get a win, there are still some people who do as you said, by following the greed that has overcome them so they take steps to continue the game by pursuing a bigger win which of course they are after getting some winnings in gambling. And maybe this can be said to be a very risky decision, because the victory that was previously obtained may be lost again by following his greed. what they should remember is, luck will not always be on their side, so when they get a win and want to continue the game by aiming for a bigger win, they should consider it first so that there is no such thing as regret in the end because most likely they will lose the winnings that have been obtained and get tired again.
We have to prevent our greed from getting bigger because when our greed gets bigger, we will definitely have difficulty controlling it and we will also lose self-control and indulge our greed to continue gambling until we end up losing our money. That is something that often happens to many gamblers, where when they have won a certain amount of money, they should immediately withdraw the winnings and not continue gambling. However, instead they continue gambling until they use up their winnings because they feel they can still win another amount of money before they stop gambling. But the reality is that they actually experience defeat and the defeat gets bigger because they still think about pursuing the victory they have previously obtained. That's not wise for us, especially since we already have more experience than them, so we really have to control ourselves well and won't be tempted to continue gambling.
That's what I mean, as much as possible we should be able to control greed that will make everything a mess, by controlling greed it can avoid losses that will come later, for example when getting a win immediately it might be better to cash it in, not following the ego that leads to continue the game, that way we can be said to have good self-control because we can cash in on the winnings we get and we can also fight the greed. It is difficult but there is no harm, because it can also have a good impact on us. If gambling continues by always following the ego that leads to greed like that there will be no end, but will only make us go deeper with the amount of money lost due to gambling. So as much as possible must have limits when gambling because all of that we ourselves have full control.
Also self-control that must be owned and strengthened more, because it also has an important role in gambling that can make us limit existing gambling, especially when getting a win. When getting a win, of course, control plays a very big role, because if you don't have strong self-control, you can lose the winnings you have gotten again because you bet it again, and that must be avoided, how? one of them is by having strong self-control, because it can limit us when gambling and it can also save us from the risk of big losses.
1726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: November 28, 2023, 11:12:17 AM
For gamblers, greed is a problem that is difficult to avoid and has become a common major disease. When greed gets the best of them, they lose self-control and everything falls apart. Those who initially play with full self-control but they become shaky when they get a win with confusion should continue or stop. But most of those who continue their game because they follow the greed that is in them, and it is also their fault that they do not think about the risk of large losses and in the end they themselves experience large losses, therefore they must train themselves to strengthen their intentions and determination so that they do not easily waver by being tempted by bigger wins that have big risks too. At least if they get a win they should be able to control themselves by cashing it in, then they will not experience such a big loss.
bad conditions or illnesses that are difficult to avoid when gamblers become greedy when they win and when they get a loss or defeat a gambler becomes emotional chasing losses.
these 2 situations are very natural and indeed difficult to avoid, even professional gamblers sometimes feel this situation when their self control is neglected and on the one hand these situations arise naturally in our minds, even I myself still feel that way but fortunately I always remember that this is just a fancy game that I have to pay for pleasure.

thought patterns may play an important role in avoiding these bad situations, but all of this requires great strength to be able to stick firmly to commitments and control which must be strengthened with positive thoughts.

That's right, not only with beginners, but even an experienced gambler will feel these two things, because these two things are definitely in every everyone who gambles so they will feel it. Even if they are professionals, in my opinion it does not rule out the possibility that they do not experience these two things that have become common diseases that are common in gambling. The ease of greed that controls them so that many of them experience losses because they follow their greed, and self-control that is also neglected because they have been lulled by the big wins they will get, but unfortunately it's just a dream, which has a small chance of getting. The awareness you have is good, and you have to pay attention to it strongly not to be easily swayed by the situation when gambling that will harm yourself, consider all the things and actions you will take, don't be rash and don't take action carelessly because you also don't want losses to befall you, don't you think?
So as much as possible you have to defend what you have, don't lose what you already have, just keep it, fight it as best you can.
Not only can gambling ruin your finances, it can also ruin your mental health. Yes, the dream of a big win is appealing, but how things really are often is not what we expect. Remember that casinos arent built on people winning, but on people losing a lot of money. The feeling of being in charge can be very appealing, right?

We must not see gambling as a way to get rich, but as a way to have fun with a cost. Like when you buy a movie ticket, you pay for the thrill and the tension. Setting limits is important; see it as a hobby, not a way to make money. Can we change how we think so that losses aren't seen as mistakes but as the price of fun? Switching to this way of gambling might be better for you, but it will be hard.

It's true, there will be many things that are harmed because of gambling. the main thing is money, gambling will damage their financial aspects and also mental health which is like you said, they are addicted to gambling will harm many things, money, health, time and even relationships but they will not realize that. because gambling makes them forget about many other things that should have been their responsibility. Gambling responsibly is interesting, because they can gamble with limits that can minimize the risk of losing and that is also not a bad thing, so they should be able to gamble responsibly.

They should gamble just for fun,  if to become rich they have to work hard to get a lot of money, they can get rich by gambling but the chances are very slim. It is like that, money is the medium of exchange with the thrill in the game, but many people make the wrong assumption by looking for profits in gambling. It is true that you said that you have to set limits on gambling, although it is difficult I think it should be done to reduce the amount of budget spent on gambling.
1727  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: November 28, 2023, 10:40:57 AM
also they will not get a prosperous life if they continue to gamble because it does not guarantee that their lives will always be funded by gambling, the chances of someone's success in gambling are very unlikely, unless they are staff from the gambling company maybe that can make them successful because they work as gambling staff, if for just players in my opinion it is impossible, although there are some people who are successful with gambling, it is only because their luck is very strong so that they can succeed with gambling easily. People who are successful with gambling maybe they already have a lot of money and become billionaires so they have opened businesses everywhere and have stopped gambling, it can be said that they might be successful with gambling, but the chances are very slim that it is impossible for everyone to be successful with gambling because their luck is different, maybe for some people their luck is strong in gambling and some people have their luck in other things not in gambling. So they must immediately realize that the defeat they always get when gambling, means they are unlucky in gambling.
Gambling is a risky profession. Statistically, casinos and gambling platforms profit from player disadvantage. Gambling success tales are outliers. They generally emphasize survivorship bias, overshadowing the many who fail financially. Gambling success is not skill or a sustainable income source.

Players take risks and lose money, while employees enjoy a steady salary. Understanding the gambling ecology requires this distinction. Remember: gambling can be fun, but using it to get money is wrong. Its a myth to link gambling success to skill or financial planning. The fundamental issue is seeing gambling as a hobby, not a source of money.

Yes that's right, gambling is a big business. Where many people are interested in playing in it and of course they spend money to play it,  because money becomes a medium of exchange in this business, the bookie will get a lot of profit from the number of people playing gambling. The success of gambling is not experienced by many people who play, many of them lose a large amount of money, and also become difficult in terms of main financial.

Even so, many of them are not prepared to lose their money to gambling so many people also become addicted to gambling. "View gambling as a hobby, not a source of money" are words that all gamblers should keep in mind to avoid severe addiction.

also they will not get a prosperous life if they continue to gamble because it does not guarantee that their lives will always be funded by gambling, the chances of someone's success in gambling are very unlikely, unless they are staff from the gambling company maybe that can make them successful because they work as gambling staff, if for just players in my opinion it is impossible, although there are some people who are successful with gambling, it is only because their luck is very strong so that they can succeed with gambling easily. People who are successful with gambling maybe they already have a lot of money and become billionaires so they have opened businesses everywhere and have stopped gambling, it can be said that they might be successful with gambling, but the chances are very slim that it is impossible for everyone to be successful with gambling because their luck is different, maybe for some people their luck is strong in gambling and some people have their luck in other things not in gambling. So they must immediately realize that the defeat they always get when gambling, means they are unlucky in gambling.
That's because in gambling, we always have to spend money before we can get money and that will definitely require time, which we often can't get after playing gambling for a few days. People who gamble and hope to make it a career will not be able to get it because gambling is not a job like people who work in offices or companies. And yes, they should work in a casino if they want to build a career from gambling and it will be more possible to earn income because they don't have to gamble and spend money but they work in a casino. However, if people still want to make money and build a career from gambling, they should think twice about doing so because there are so many factors that they can lose that they should be aware of. They should look for work, as we have said, rather than playing gambling where we don't know when they will win. We can't take the risk of losing a lot of money to build a career from gambling because it can obviously drain all the savings we have and we could go bankrupt before we can even get a big win.

Yes because it should be like that, if they do not spend money or deposit money in gambling, they will not be able to gamble, because money is the main role in gambling, there is money they can play but if there is no money they will not be able to play simple like that. They will not be able to succeed from gambling which is just an entertainment in the form of a game, therefore it is impossible to succeed because it is not a job like in general, right what you said, if they want to succeed by involving gambling, maybe they should work as staff in gambling maybe that can help them to be successful even by being staff in a gambling company. I think that to succeed just as a player is very difficult, there is a chance maybe but not big, it all comes back to their luck that will give them the victory. And they should not gamble until they spend their money let alone spend their savings.
1728  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What you need to know about trading on: November 27, 2023, 05:29:14 PM
Most people think life is a bed of roses, is all about sunshine,  enjoyment etc not knowing that there's always a  tough time and the ability of one to overcome this time makes him great.  Tough time is the point through which poor and successful people emerges depending on the choices and decision they take.
Most traders and investors are inpatient they only think of the positive side of it ( making profit) not knowing there will always be a loss someday,  well most of them know but when they make losses they became frustrated and unstable,  some will give up because of that little experience.  Sometimes we make losses and we have bad experience like we offend God but no, we are only been tested.  Some of the spirit of a trader or invest is "I can make it mindset, resilience...

I read through what you feel that everyone has to know about trading. Your post is in line and understandable.  But with respect to your post title, I feel that what you need to know about trading is that TRADING IS NOT FOR EVERYONE.

YES, you read it clear. If you lose and keep losing, quit trading and find some other things to do. Trading is more than profits and losses, it takes patience and emotion to survive in the trading market.  If you have tried trading for sometimes and no matter how careful you applied your strategy,  you still don't succeed.  Please consider to quit trading.

There will be some people who will reject your assumption even though it is basically true, for people who are scientifically illiterate but very open to the name of profit they will not care about ideas that will hinder them. Many come because they are motivated by others who are successful and make huge profits from trading, they want to have the same fate but the problem is that they do not bring any preparation and fishing tools to get, isn't it nothing more than gambling? yes I would say that if anyone gets involved and enters the world of trading without having any understanding and knowledge, because they will only depend on luck.

With that said, I would agree with your statement that "trading is not for everyone", and I would add one thing "there is no instant wealth in trading". Before you jump in and get involved because you are motivated by the success of others then I hope you should first see what difficulties they faced in the process of achieving it, if you already know and have the answer then I'm not sure you will still be convinced to get involved. Basically, there are so many things you have to prepare, good planning, money management, emotional and psychological, patience, consistency and willingness to continue learning to improve. So think and consider again if you want to get involved.
1729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this a good advice? on: November 27, 2023, 05:09:06 PM

The only thing it's okay to play more is when you are doing it for fun because you are also betting smaller amounts, and you are not expecting to win anymore. In terms of jackpot, they can come in different forms. I already saw one who needs a higher bet for it to be hit, and maybe the longer the duration of our play time, the more the chance we get them.

Honestly, I would not advise anyone to play more even if they come for fun, don't you think that any situation and condition is very likely to happen and change the mindset and character of gamblers if they are too often involved and participate in gambling? Many have experienced a change in mindset unconsciously because of something like that. For other restrictions, yes I agree with your suggestion that it is true that with the aim of just looking for fun then indirectly the amount of budget they carry will not be too large and maybe it's just a small part of all the money they have.

One of the things that makes them only put a small amount first is not too much hope for big wins and secondly their goal is just looking for entertainment, so a small amount is enough for their gambling. They understand the concept of real luck which is always unpredictable, simply put even though you come with small capital but it is quite tolerable if you are lucky by getting a win. So don't ever think to put high hopes, because it's the same as you put a trap for yourself if the final result doesn't match and there will be disappointment that you feel.
1730  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: November 27, 2023, 04:49:04 PM

This only happens when the person involved is not an addict, if he eventually becomes an addict taking a break can never be an option, instead he or she will even go further to do anything to satisfy him or herself, addicted gamblers don't see losing as anything because the believe that they can win anytime, when they lose, they strategize and go for more, I think at this point there is no adding that's going to be useful to this person, unless God is involved to salvage the situation if not, you being the adviser might end up having issue with him or her, the question might come from him to you, he might say is the money your own, why not allow me to do what I like, I think this situation is complicated.

Your statement is very correct, I quite agree with your assumption, the fact is that it is not easy to take any prevention even for some people it might be easy to do but for people who have entered the addiction phase the situation will be different again, as you said that taking a break will never be an option, and if anyone chooses then I think only a few are able to do it. Their only option is to win so they will only be able to stop when they have exhausted all their money in every session they do.

Gamblers who are already addicted have a different mindset from other gamblers, especially those who are still in the safe zone. Basically and the reality is that they want to win but object to losing or even don't want to lose, and if they lose then obviously it's not the end of the world, they will do anything just to gamble, borrowing has become an alternative that they do if they have run out of money and none other than that all to catch up on previous losses. On the other hand they think that losing is a form of sacrifice, and it's useless even if you advise them I don't think it will have any effect. This is the bad impact of gambling if you have entered into addiction, there is no better end result except losing again, because even if they win then they will act greedy.
1731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 27, 2023, 04:26:20 PM
Arsenal comes back to top of the table after securing a win over Brentford with 1-0 scoreline. Not a convincing one but at the end the 3 points is what counts eventually. What made it perfect is that draw between Liverpool and City which made both clubs drop the points and gave Arsenal chance to lead the table. Still there are lot of rounds to be played and I hope that Arsenal maintains the consistency from here on and not make further mistakes in easy matches further.

Yes now Arsenal have managed to be at the top of the table from their victory against Brenford, I think this is a match that is not difficult enough for Arteta's squad, they are above Brenford and they managed to maximize this match with results that match expectations by managing to secure the full three points at the end of the match. On the other hand yes it is true that makes everything more perfect and favorable for Arsenal is that as you said Manchester City failed to secure full points in their last match against Liverpool, and I think this is fortunate for Arsenal because they are superior in terms of points from the results of their last match.

But even so as we see that the difference in points in the top five standings is very thin, Arsenal only have a difference or one point ahead of Manchester City and I say this is still not a safe zone even though they are in the top position. Next Arsenal will face Wolves, although Wolves are far below them but I wouldn't say it's an easy match because lately there have been many surprises from some weak teams, so however Arsenal must be able to maximize and maintain their sharp performance to get back three points to be further away from the pursuit of Manchester City.
1732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How discipline are you in managing your bankroll? on: November 27, 2023, 04:06:18 PM
I am extremely disciplined and very rational with the management of funds and gambling, although it was not like that in my early days, when I was very young, but luckily with time I understood what this is all about and not to put false hopes on it. I gamble infrequently, when I do I do it with low amounts that I can afford and usually a small percentage of the total I have in my account to make it last.

Experience can always be the best teacher in any case and still I think there will still be other possibilities for you or whoever it is not to do anything best or just choose and find the best way to solve the problem, because  on the other hand there are also those who have experienced bitter things in gambling but did not make any changes at all and they just spin in such a cycle of suffering, there is no better choice because the impetus of hope for something that is difficult to become possible is very high.

I understand that for the beginning  of involvement in gambling, beginners usually make a lot of mistakes whether it's in terms of the mindset and goals they bring or the way they do it which ultimately makes them end up disappointed. But I see you are doing so well, you are one  of those people who can take lessons from some bitter events and can make changes by implementing some preventive measures for a precaution so  that the  iimpact that you will experience next will not be too significant. I think your experience is worthy of emulation especially for those who are still struggling to achieve consciousness..
1733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: November 27, 2023, 03:20:15 PM
Gambling should never be considered as the only source of income. Gambling is a completely uncertain platform where money can come to you in a moment and money can be lost from you in a moment so don't rely too much on this platform. If we have a job or a business we have to depend on that job or business and depending on the job or business we can only take gambling as a part time hobby. Gambling guarantees that you will earn money but you cannot pay. If you win money by gambling then it's your luck and it's your extra money but never be totally dependent on this uncertain platform. People come to gambling platform to earn money but most people come to this platform and lose money.

Because gambling has a dangerous impact with a bad impact that is not playing if they make gambling the first source of income in life, because if they do it like that, it can be sure that their lives will experience difficulties in the future because it can make them become severely addicted,  also when they run out of money they may sell all the property they have to be able to return to gambling. Not to mention loans, they can take loans here and there to return to gambling, and they can get into debt in their lives which will make them themselves not calm in every day because they are anxious about loans that must be paid off while even when they have money they will not pay it off, but maybe they will prefer to return to gambling again, because of the urge of greed that exists in themselves that makes them want to continue gambling without thinking about other things that are more important and must be done,  addiction can eliminate a person's responsibility to many things that are usually done because they only focus on gambling so they ignore many other things.
Those who gamble thinking that they will get a lot done end up losing all their savings and wealth instead of getting it done. Most gamblers are in debt and most gamblers get worse at some point when they start gambling. There are enough reasons why a gambler's condition deteriorates after he starts gambling, a gambler himself is responsible for such a condition of the gambler. If he had not been overly greedy and if he had not sought to change his position by gambling, his situation might never have been worse. I don't know if you will agree with me but I think gambling can never change your position. Some gains from gambling may be a reason for your enthusiasm, but that enthusiasm should never lead to excessive greed.

The greed that makes them spend all the money they have as well as the savings they save well in the end is also used, they think that gambling can solve all their problems about money but in reality with them gambling it only makes it difficult for them in the future, not to mention their lives that will be chased by a sense of debt if they have borrowed here and there like you said it, going into debt to be able to get back capital and be able to return to gambling is a stupid act that will make their lives uneasy every day, because there will be a sense that haunts them wherever they go.
No no no, I agree with you that gambling cannot change our position, let alone change life for the better, if gambling could very, very well provide a win that could change someone's life maybe everyone would not have to think twice, maybe they would immediately do gambling that could change their life, but in fact it is not like that, the winnings in gambling only belong to the host who has a major influence over all gambling. So we should be able to avoid greed that will make everything messy.

If they make gambling as their hobby, in my opinion, they have to prepare a lot of money because most likely they will only lose, and it is also not easy to get a big win. The hobby that I know is a habit that makes ourselves happy, if indeed gambling can make them happy that's great, it's just that they need to see how the finances they have, whether they can fulfill gambling as a hobby? in my opinion it is very unlikely if gambling is made as a hobby, because hobbies basically don't care about money, if they are still gambling with the aim or purpose of getting a big win, in my opinion it is not a hobby, but pursuing victory.
It's true what you said, however gambling is not good if it is made into a hobby and there are still many other things that have positive value, and are better than gambling. gambling with fun they can do with a budget of money that is not too excessive. and don't make gambling the main income.
Making gambling a hobby is a big mistake because it will obviously use up a lot of money that might be immediately spent on one game of gambling. It also doesn't guarantee that they can get big or small wins because in gambling, getting a win is very difficult and only lucky gamblers can get it. A hobby requires money and if the hobby is gambling, we will need a lot of money, especially if we experience a loss, which will make us want to deposit more money so that we can recover the loss. They might be happy if they can win, especially if it is a big win, but in reality, many people cannot win, so they cannot be happy pursuing their hobby of gambling. They should make gambling an activity in their spare time and not use a lot of money to be able to enjoy their gambling activities so that they will not experience a lot of losses.

It's true that you said that gambling as a hobby is a big mistake, but if it's for people who have unlimited and endless money income, it doesn't matter, I see many old people in casinos who play gambling even though they are a hobby. old but they still gamble not to mention the women who accompany them and also the bodyguards they have. This makes them have untold wealth or endless income, so they can still gamble even though they are old and even though they have physical limitations such as disabilities because there are also those who gamble using wheelchairs. It is possible that they do gambling in their old age because that is the only pleasure they have in gambling and that is the only place they can get pleasure, this cannot be denied because everyone has their own rights. It's just that what's wrong is people who have limited money but still insist on continuing to gamble. Rich people who gamble until old age tend to only seek pleasure not victory, in contrast to people who have limited money, they gamble by pursuing victory, while victory is difficult to obtain, if you are unlucky you still won't get what you want. And that will only make them addicted.

And to cure that addiction is a difficult thing to do just like self-control, easy to say but difficult to do. Not to mention if they have a stubborn nature, it will be very difficult to give advice to them because people who have a stubborn nature and are addicted to gambling may rebel or fight when advised because they cannot accept themselves being advised. The most important way is to give lessons or whatever it is that will make them aware of themselves, if they still can't then they themselves have to feel something that can make them aware, it sounds difficult if someone else makes them aware, but it's the same as those who have to make themselves aware. So they will not easily get their consciousness just like that, maybe it needs other people like family who have to make them aware, or their own wives if they are married maybe that can help make them aware even though it sounds difficult but I think it can be done, because effort will not betray the results if it is for a good thing there is nothing wrong with trying it. and in my opinion they need to be accompanied for the healing process so that they can be more enthusiastic about getting well. Actually, there are many things that can be done to awaken those who are addicted to gambling, one of which is to provide firm behavior, there must be people who dare to order them to leave their addiction habits, with firm behavior it might help them leave their addiction habits.
1734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 27, 2023, 02:46:24 PM
But Camarda seemed to enjoy the match. And he also thanked the Milan Supporters after the match. Even though he didn't have many chances in that match. But I am quite amazed that he is only 15 years old but can already withstand the heavy atmosphere of a match with his seniors at AC Milan. And he is now the player with the record for the youngest debut in Serie A. Previously this record was held by Wisdom Amey who made his debut at Bologna.

Maybe in the next matches he will be given more playing time. And I hope he doesn't have to listen to all the bad words that will always criticize any player. He must use every criticism as a lesson and motivation to become a better player and prove that he is worthy of playing with AC Milan's main squad.
As the nickname Golden Boy is attached to Camarda at this time, of course it was not immediately given to him. I'm sure Milan knows the potential that exists in him. The long process and journey to the world of football has just begun. Now we just have to see how Milan management looks after this player until the right time. Camarda needs to learn many things from Milan senior players, build more good relationships and most importantly he must be able to accept good and bad advice. Competition in football competitions is very tough, building the mentality of a star player is not enough just to get an initial title. So Camarda development at Milan must continue to be maintained, because his biggest challenge is conquering his own ego.
1735  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 27, 2023, 02:24:28 PM
Since Osimhen joined Napoli, he's been their key player and he's been doing his striking job perfectly without errors, even in times of emotional derailment from fans and the coach, he's still being able to keep his  mind focused, he's in no wise the best thing that's happened to Napoli, he's the best addition to the team, although Chelsea are having eyes on him but it's likely that Napoli won't let him slip without a very good replacement for him.
However, we also need to gauge the extent of Osimhen courage in challenging himself to a much tougher competition. And Chelsea are trying to offer something more than Napoli, however for Osimhen has a decision to want to develop by climbing the career or stay in his comfort zone with Napoli.  As is currently the case with Mbappe regarding the same Madrid that also involved Osimhen. One of them needs to develop to climb to the top of the ambitions of world football players isn't that the goal of every player?

Chelsea can't promise much at the moment, but with his big name things could go a different way.
1736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: November 27, 2023, 01:45:46 PM
I think most families will not support gambling activities, because many people have a bad point of view on gambling which harms others rather than benefits, and I think even rich people who have a lot of money and abundant assets if they don't like gambling and one of their family members is addicted to gambling, I don't think they will let it go, I think they will act to advise them and provide explanations about gambling which can harm themselves as well as harm others in the future. As you said, the biggest mistake is to make gambling as the main income this is what makes them addicted, because with the desire to get a big win makes them addicted to losing a lot of money to gamble, if only they could gamble with just fun, maybe many people would not be addicted to gambling, but indeed the attraction and temptation of gambling is strong, so it is easy to attract people to continue gambling endlessly.
Yes of course not all families support gambling. Very few families support gambling and everyone enjoys gambling together.  Because they know how dangerous gambling is. It gives financial advice to everyone but on the contrary causes financial loss to everyone.  And everyone goes gambling with the intention of becoming financially strong fast. In this way, they become addicted to gambling and suffer extremely. And families who support gambling can never live in peace

It's true what you said, if there is also a family that supports gambling, maybe it's a family that has endless money income. But suppose I have an endless income of money, and have a member who is addicted to gambling I will still prevent them from always gambling. because it can have an impact on myself who has an endless income of money, because maybe they can borrow money from me for gambling capital by force, and if I don't give it, it could be that a person who is addicted to gambling does something unnatural that will harm others and of course I myself don't want my members to do that. So I will try to get the addicted person to leave their addiction habit, If gently cannot change them, then inevitably a lesson must be given firmly and hard, because it is for their own good. It's nonsense that gambling can make you rich quickly, however, gambling will only cause problems if a person cannot control himself so that it becomes an addiction that has dangerous effects.

Gambling responsibly, by paying attention to other things that are more important than gambling. do not let just gambling harm many things such as time and health, gambling naturally without overdoing it so it will not become addictive, playing at the right time so that you can enjoy the game and also pay attention to your own health, do not get sick because only because of playing gambling that interferes with our rest time. If only for once in a while it doesn't matter but if you make it a habit it is highly discouraged, gambling that has its own impact should not be added by playing it during sleeping hours.

But there are indeed people who play like that, by playing gambling in the middle of the night because they take the peace that exists, only sooner or later their health will be damaged because of the impact of lack of sleep or rest. This is also not a little done by people, many do it, but whatever because it's their own choice. They also have their own thoughts, so they can think which is good and not good for them. although it is difficult to rise from adversity, but they really have to do it in order to change their lives for the better, because their future is unlikely to be spent gambling alone. if they really want wealth they have to work hard to achieve a decent life, not by gambling which is made their main income in life.
In fact, if someone can gamble responsibly, he will not feel any burden because he will only think about getting pleasure from gambling and will not chase after winning. He also will not be addicted to continuing gambling because he feels that gambling is entertainment. If he has had that pleasure, he will immediately stop gambling without feeling that he has to reach his break-even point before he gambles. He can enjoy his gambling games and will pay attention to his health because, for him, gambling must be done in a relaxed way so he can enjoy his gambling time. Gambling has serious impacts on gamblers who cannot control themselves, so responsible gamblers will not want to take the risk of being affected and will always be careful when gambling.

Gambling in the middle of the night is actually okay as long as he can manage his gambling time and not gamble for too long because he also needs rest so that the next day, he can return to his usual activities. That's assuming he has a lot of activity, so he has self-control in gambling in the middle of the night. He will take care of himself while gambling and will not lose control of himself until he gambles too much because he knows that what he does at night is just to enjoy the short time before he sleeps. However, if he has a busy activity schedule the next day, he will not force himself to gamble but will immediately rest because he is more concerned with his activities the next day than gambling.

It is true that you say that, pursuing victory will only be a burden for themselves and become a thought that is difficult to get rid of because it is attached and made as their main goal. The point of pleasure that may be difficult to find because of the pursuit of victory, by gambling that does not aim to get pleasure but to pursue victory it will only make problems for those who will experience it, because the victory that never gets with the defeat that only gets that makes them upset and continue to want to take revenge to pursue victory that can cover the defeat that has occurred will torment and lose them from many things, especially money, time, health. They should be able to gamble with the limits set to avoid things that are not wanted, but if they still insist like that, it will be difficult to advise them that what they are doing is wrong.

There may be no one to forbid it, but maybe family members will give a little warning, but it can still be ignored. By gambling in the middle of the night, they have the opportunity to gamble for a long time if they do not have the self-control to limit their gambling. But everyone knows that gambling can make a person forget about many things, because the sensation displayed by the game can make them lulled to continue gambling, in my opinion few people have strong control to be able to limit their gambling time. Sometimes even someone who has self-control will feel annoyed by gambling that always loses especially in the middle of the night, it is very vulnerable to increasing their emotions which makes them want to continue gambling, my advice is that if they really have good self-control they should know the time to gamble by not doing it in the middle of the night which could interfere with their rest time, even if the next day they don't have a busy schedule it's better to rest with enough time so that nothing happens to their own health.

If the addiction to gambling or drugs is also fatal, what is damaged is not physical but their thinking, so they have to meet other people to ask for advice and input, if it still doesn't work because the addiction is severe, maybe they should meet with a psychological expert because healing the mind is not as easy as healing physical wounds, their mentality that is also damaged will have a bad impact on others, by changing their attitude to become more aggressive and maybe they can commit unintentional acts of violence when they are being advised by others or their families. It can be said that people who are already addicted will not realize that they are addicted, even addictions like this usually hide it because they are embarrassed if other people find out not to mention the family that if they know this bad habit there may be conflict between the family and the addicted person, Where we know that addicted people tend not to want to lose because they are hypnotized by the things they always do which according to themselves it has become their personal needs, just like drugs, as you said "taking a drug addict to a rehabilitation center" the process of healing this addiction will be painful or torturous for the addict, but if he himself wants to recover then he must undergo it even if it tortures themselves. No one else can help them but themselves who determine their future, it is impossible for those who are adults or even have a family to still depend on their parents.
Addiction to gambling or drugs has a fatal impact because he cannot think clearly about what he is doing and only wants to gamble or do drugs while enjoying his time. Maybe seeing a psychiatrist won't be able to provide a solution to the addiction, especially if the addiction is already in the serious category. They may have to undergo isolation first to make them aware and open their minds that they have a serious gambling addiction so that they can realize it and regret it. After their condition is completely calm and they can accept their situation, maybe the psychiatrist can start to come in and make them aware so that they can undergo each healing session. In this phase, they may begin to receive advice or instructions about what they should do before undergoing a therapy session so that they are ready when they start therapy. In his initial condition up to this point, it would actually have been better if he had his family who continued to accompany him so that he could see that he was not alone in struggling to overcome his addiction problem, but that he had his family who continued to encourage him that he was able to overcome it. However, the process of healing this addiction will be painful for them because they have to start their lives from the beginning again and get rid of the effects of their addiction that are already attached to them. Perhaps this process will take a long time, depending on how prepared he is to undergo the healing process. If his family can accompany him, perhaps he will be more enthusiastic about going through each process.

I would like to correct a little bit, I didn't say psychiatrist or psychology. Because as far as I know psychiatrists are doctors, while psychologists are psychologists.
Is the isolation you are referring to quarantine? If that's the case, maybe what you suggest can be done for those with serious addictions, by forcing them to realize their self-destructive behavior and actually many things can be done to awaken someone who is addicted to gambling, it's just that those who are severely addicted cannot accept input, advice from people so they themselves lead into serious healing. The family has an important role in this, because no matter what state they are in, the family will definitely accept it if they want to change for the better, also of course they will provide the best support to encourage them to change for the better. Even though the healing process is painful for them if they really want to change, they will definitely do it, even if it takes a long time they will definitely do it, because it should be everyone who is addicted to something that is not good, they should be able to leave their bad habits, it is also impossible for them to continue to be addicted to old age which will certainly harm them even though they have a lot of money, there is nothing wrong with dying of addictions that harm themselves.

All problems must have a way out, it's just that the rest depends on themselves who will determine the future. If they are already aware of the things they are doing that are detrimental to themselves then they can realize it even though the chances are very small. As much as possible they should be able to get through it because it is also for their own good not for others, because it is impossible if they are still addicted to old age. unless they have a large fixed income then they can do gambling until old age because of their inexhaustible income. it is not necessary to be at the lowest point to get enlightenment, but if those who are addicted to it have a stubborn nature, how? I think even people who support him will feel annoyed by advising him if he himself has not changed at all, with his awareness it is difficult in the sense of stubbornness, maybe people also who support his recovery will let him go because they feel they have wasted time advising him but there is no change made.
Every problem can be solved well, and it depends on how we think about how to solve it. If they have difficulty finding a solution, they can tell the people around them so they can find a way or solution. They won't have difficulty finding a solution because the people around them have helped them, so they can immediately start implementing the solution while evaluating the changes. Everyone who is addicted can definitely be cured. It depends on the person who is addicted because if he doesn't feel addicted, other people won't be able to help him and will probably only see him becoming more and more addicted. This is dangerous because he can make his life dangerous and can have an impact on the people around him. If he had a stubborn nature, it wouldn't be easy to advise him because he would defend himself unless he finally experienced something that made him enlightened and finally able to realize his mistakes.

Yes, that's right, by telling what he experienced to other people and asking for advice and solutions to overcome the problems that occurred, maybe they can provide solutions to overcome his problems and also provide a way out, so if it's like that, it's just how someone does it and don't forget to consider it so that nothing else happens. Of course, if it affects other people it is very unnatural, because other people who don't know anything but are affected. Naturally, they themselves must accept the impact of what they have done themselves. It is indeed difficult to find their point of consciousness, because their thoughts are already filled with their addiction that makes their thoughts not think of anything else, not to mention that they have a stubborn nature which is certainly not happy if advised by others by not being able to accept themselves being advised, even though other people who advise them are not just lip service but for their good too. Maybe it's true what you said, they have to feel something so big or whatever it is that can make them realize by themselves. If indeed other people cannot make them aware then there is no more solution except for them themselves who must be aware of their wrong behavior that has also made themselves lose themselves.

You said something backwards "They also don't need to be at their lowest point to gain enlightenment. Most of them need to experience falling to the lowest point in order for them to gain enlightenment" I don't understand this sentence of yours, you say "don't need to" but the next sentence you say "they need to" even though in that one sentence the one goal is enlightenment, it's just that your second sentence has the word "fall" which distinguishes it from the first sentence.

To start a new life, they must make a total recovery and that is not easy to do, in the process it is hard and will even torture themselves and that is what they have to face if they want a new clean life. By starting a new life without gambling or drug addiction, it will make their lives calmer every day without feeling the anxiety of gambling.
You have to understand the previous sentence so you understand what I wrote. What I mean is that maybe they can regularly exercise outside while breathing fresh air every morning or evening and also make another schedule that can be done regularly so that they can't think about gambling like before. They also don't need to be at their lowest point to gain enlightenment.

I forgot to add the word "but" in the part that most of them need to experience falling to rock bottom so they can gain enlightenment about the mistakes they made, gain awareness, and grow the desire to start changing their lives for the better. That's what makes you misunderstand what I mean. Forgive me.

Okay I see what you mean now, so they don't need to be at the bottom to realize. "unless eventually he experiences something that makes him enlightened and finally able to realize his mistake.". Then this sentence doesn't mean the lowest point. And it's hard to get to the point of realization from gambling.

Relax buddy, I just didn't understand what you were saying before. it's not a big mistake, it's just that it can make other people misunderstand like me.
1737  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: November 27, 2023, 08:30:35 AM
By realizing that winning will be hard to come by and will not happen to all gamblers, only a few will get big wins, because luck also plays an important role in gambling. No matter how skilled a gambler is, if they play but are unlucky it is tantamount to getting a loss instead of a win, and vice versa, beginners who are new to gambling may get their winnings by playing carelessly but they have strong luck, then they may accidentally get a big win. And this big win should not be used as a benchmark in gambling, indeed everyone wants victory but the name of gambling must have lost and won, and most likely the player will only get defeat not victory. The bookie as the host will definitely always win, and this needs to be remembered so that you can limit yourself in gambling.
Usually, after gamblers win, they will be triggered by the desire to win again, which causes many gamblers to continue gambling instead of taking a break to reduce tension after gambling. And that's what causes them to experience defeat again and even get a bigger win. Many gamblers have experienced experiences like that so this should be a lesson for other gamblers but what happens is that other gamblers don't pay attention to this and instead want to try to get their luck so this will only result in bigger losses. That is why we must have strong self-control so that we are not tempted to continue gambling no matter what results we get so that we can enjoy gambling only as entertainment.

Not everyone can control themselves when they get a win, there are still some people who do as you said, by following the greed that has overcome them so they take steps to continue the game by pursuing a bigger win which of course they are after getting some winnings in gambling. And maybe this can be said to be a very risky decision, because the victory that was previously obtained may be lost again by following his greed. what they should remember is, luck will not always be on their side, so when they get a win and want to continue the game by aiming for a bigger win, they should consider it first so that there is no such thing as regret in the end because most likely they will lose the winnings that have been obtained and get tired again.

Need strong control so as not to waver when you get a win, because usually people who gamble their self-control still waver too when they get a win, some people are like that. And the possibility of losing is greater than the possibility of winning. This is a common thing, so it is no longer strange that many people experience defeat after getting a win and continuing the game. Their game becomes a mess when they get a win that makes them confused to stop or continue, and those who follow their ego to continue gambling again make the winnings that have been obtained lost again inevitably they have to accept reality. So it's good to consider first before acting. The point is not to act without thinking about it first because the risk is not playing as much as possible they should avoid reckless games so as not to experience losses.
With strong self-control, we will not be easily tempted by what we see in our gambling account so we can maintain the balance of money in our gambling account. We will only gamble for pleasure and will not try to chase wins or recover losses because we know that is a difficult thing for us to achieve. We can also think clearly about what we can do after playing gambling for some time so that we don't make hasty decisions. We can avoid the desire to win from gambling and when we can win, we will not try to get another win and choose to stop gambling and just take a break. With good self-control, we can become wise gamblers who do not follow our ego to be able to win big wins, especially since it is difficult to obtain.

Yes that's right, they must be able to control themselves well so as not to fall deeper into gambling which could possibly harm them a lot. With strong self-control, of course they will be able to control emotions, and fight the greed that is in themselves to avoid the risk of losses that will come then they must be able to avoid it all by having strong self-control so that all things that trigger losses can be avoided by them. People who do not have self-control tend to make decisions in a hurry when they get a win, and make decisions to continue the game that has a greater risk, Right you say they should not rush to take an action. because this will cause a problem for themselves, unfortunately not many people have strong self-control, and that is very unfortunate. There is no other way but for themselves to realize everything.
1738  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: November 27, 2023, 08:10:09 AM
For gamblers, greed is a problem that is difficult to avoid and has become a common major disease. When greed gets the best of them, they lose self-control and everything falls apart. Those who initially play with full self-control but they become shaky when they get a win with confusion should continue or stop. But most of those who continue their game because they follow the greed that is in them, and it is also their fault that they do not think about the risk of large losses and in the end they themselves experience large losses, therefore they must train themselves to strengthen their intentions and determination so that they do not easily waver by being tempted by bigger wins that have big risks too. At least if they get a win they should be able to control themselves by cashing it in, then they will not experience such a big loss.
bad conditions or illnesses that are difficult to avoid when gamblers become greedy when they win and when they get a loss or defeat a gambler becomes emotional chasing losses.
these 2 situations are very natural and indeed difficult to avoid, even professional gamblers sometimes feel this situation when their self control is neglected and on the one hand these situations arise naturally in our minds, even I myself still feel that way but fortunately I always remember that this is just a fancy game that I have to pay for pleasure.

thought patterns may play an important role in avoiding these bad situations, but all of this requires great strength to be able to stick firmly to commitments and control which must be strengthened with positive thoughts.

That's right, not only with beginners, but even an experienced gambler will feel these two things, because these two things are definitely in every everyone who gambles so they will feel it. Even if they are professionals, in my opinion it does not rule out the possibility that they do not experience these two things that have become common diseases that are common in gambling. The ease of greed that controls them so that many of them experience losses because they follow their greed, and self-control that is also neglected because they have been lulled by the big wins they will get, but unfortunately it's just a dream, which has a small chance of getting. The awareness you have is good, and you have to pay attention to it strongly not to be easily swayed by the situation when gambling that will harm yourself, consider all the things and actions you will take, don't be rash and don't take action carelessly because you also don't want losses to befall you, don't you think?
So as much as possible you have to defend what you have, don't lose what you already have, just keep it, fight it as best you can.
1739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: November 27, 2023, 07:50:50 AM
Yes that's right, they themselves caused the loss of their money in a large amount, because if they blame the gambling it is wrong. The loss of their money is because of their own actions that cannot limit themselves to stop gambling. If you think about it, the money lost due to gambling seems to be enough to open a business or start a business that will certainly make them earn income so that they have a chance to succeed and be clearer too. If they want success by gambling, the chances are very slim, it can even be said that it is impossible, but there may be people who answer "nothing is impossible in this world if with effort", that's true, but they have to see what they are trying to do, don't make gambling habits like this a business in life because it is not recommended either. Immediately they must realize and start a business if they really want to succeed, if success by gambling in my opinion is impossible.
They cannot blame gambling because it is their own will that makes them want to gamble and use a lot of money. After all, they cannot control themselves. Gambling never forces anyone to gamble and try to make money because gambling only provides promotions to the public because gambling is a business so if there are people who are interested in gambling, it is because of their own will. And it is true what you said that if they could calculate the amount of money lost in gambling, they would see that it was actually possible to create a business or start a business. And from that business, they can make money that they can collect for other things so they don't need to gamble to make money. It is unlikely that people will be able to make money from gambling, especially for most people so they should realize that they do not need to try hard to make money from gambling.

also they will not get a prosperous life if they continue to gamble because it does not guarantee that their lives will always be funded by gambling, the chances of someone's success in gambling are very unlikely, unless they are staff from the gambling company maybe that can make them successful because they work as gambling staff, if for just players in my opinion it is impossible, although there are some people who are successful with gambling, it is only because their luck is very strong so that they can succeed with gambling easily. People who are successful with gambling maybe they already have a lot of money and become billionaires so they have opened businesses everywhere and have stopped gambling, it can be said that they might be successful with gambling, but the chances are very slim that it is impossible for everyone to be successful with gambling because their luck is different, maybe for some people their luck is strong in gambling and some people have their luck in other things not in gambling. So they must immediately realize that the defeat they always get when gambling, means they are unlucky in gambling.
1740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: November 26, 2023, 12:59:28 PM
That's right, with the control that you have will minimize the expenditure of money used for gambling, and many people who gamble they don't have good control so they spend a lot of money to pursue a big win. It needs to be recognized, all people who gamble definitely want a big win no exception. But those who make the mistake of gambling without good self-control lead them to lose a lot of money. And this has also become a common thing no longer strange, with the defeat that is obtained cannot be replaced by the victory that is obtained, because after all they must have lost a lot of money in gambling. so the victory that is obtained will not be able to cover the defeat that has occurred. If indeed to get a win, I think they have to stop their addiction, which if they can stop the addiction that costs them a lot of money means they win, but if they still do the same thing even if they get a win then in my opinion they still lose in gambling, because as I said above the winnings that can not cover the losses that have occurred. To realize this seems difficult for someone who is already addicted, because in his mind that has been quasi by the victory he must get and this is what has been attached to their thoughts so it is difficult to get rid of easily.
However, we must continue to practice this self-control so that we can really prevent bad things that might happen while we are gambling and also prevent other problems after we have finished gambling. Everyone indeed wants to get a big win from gambling, but they have to remember that that won't always happen or it could even be said that we will rarely get that big win. This is where self-control plays a role that can prevent us from experiencing loss, which may be bigger than we imagined. With self-control, we will prevent making mistakes by continuing to gamble, especially when we have succeeded in winning some money. We will also remember that the win we get is a bonus for us, so we will not think about trying to get another win. Self-control can prevent problems that will arise if we continue gambling and we can enjoy winning while reducing tension.

By realizing that winning will be hard to come by and will not happen to all gamblers, only a few will get big wins, because luck also plays an important role in gambling. No matter how skilled a gambler is, if they play but are unlucky it is tantamount to getting a loss instead of a win, and vice versa, beginners who are new to gambling may get their winnings by playing carelessly but they have strong luck, then they may accidentally get a big win. And this big win should not be used as a benchmark in gambling, indeed everyone wants victory but the name of gambling must have lost and won, and most likely the player will only get defeat not victory. The bookie as the host will definitely always win, and this needs to be remembered so that you can limit yourself in gambling.

The strong temptation that casinos have so that many people can't resist it so most of them are attracted by the temptation that casinos provide in the form of promotions that casinos provide. with the temptation that casinos provide makes them forget everything because they only focus on gambling that must be defeated by getting big wins. But unfortunately they cannot beat the casino system machine that has been set to always win in every round. With casinos that will always win and those who always lose will increase their emotions to become more aggressive in gambling and continue to gamble with the money they have and at this time they have lost control,  maybe from the beginning it was just for trial and error but they became addicted and spent all their money on gambling. And they will continue to deposit the money they have with the aim of returning the money they have lost or to chase the winnings that can cover the defeats they have experienced, and this will make them endlessly continue to gamble and not realize that they have spent a lot of money. Even the winnings that can cover their losses can be said to be a dream like you said, because it is difficult to get and almost impossible to get even if they have spent a lot of money gambling it will not guarantee a big win that will be obtained.
Having self-control can also be useful for preventing the temptation of gambling, where when we are in a casino, we will see many interesting things that can make us curious and want to try them. But self-control prevents us from trying because we remember that by trying, we could have the opportunity to experience defeat. Therefore, we will really be careful when playing gambling and will not carelessly use the money to gamble, especially since we already have a budget for gambling that we must fulfill. The gamblers will only sometimes be able to win from the casino because the casino owns the business and will get the biggest profits compared to the gamblers. Gamblers can only get a small portion of the profits made by casinos and actually that is enough for them rather than having to lose all their money from gambling. Maybe some gamblers can get big wins, but the number of gamblers will not be as many as those who experience losses, so other gamblers must remember that they should not gamble excessively.

Need strong control so as not to waver when you get a win, because usually people who gamble their self-control still waver too when they get a win, some people are like that. And the possibility of losing is greater than the possibility of winning. This is a common thing, so it is no longer strange that many people experience defeat after getting a win and continuing the game. Their game becomes a mess when they get a win that makes them confused to stop or continue, and those who follow their ego to continue gambling again make the winnings that have been obtained lost again inevitably they have to accept reality. So it's good to consider first before acting. The point is not to act without thinking about it first because the risk is not playing as much as possible they should avoid reckless games so as not to experience losses.
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