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1301  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: January 02, 2024, 12:05:02 PM
That's right, gambling is clearly done by them of their own accord as well as with what they do with other things, and if they do it accompanied by drinking alcohol it is likely that they will not do it completely by considering it well, because they are under the influence of alcohol which can makes them not focus on carrying out an action. Even if they gamble without the influence of alcohol, the chances are that they will lose, and if they gamble under the influence of alcohol, they will probably gamble out of control without considering everything properly.
That's what must be avoided, don't let us lose when we are enthusiastic about making another deposit, this needs to be avoided, because even without being influenced by alcohol, this can happen, especially if under the influence of alcohol it is possible that everything will become chaotic, because we gambling while completely unconscious.
It's a very bad mistake if a gambler before carrying out gambling activities drinks large amounts of alcohol which makes him lose himself, whereas if the gambler plays slot games, I'm not sure he can last longer or even just a few spins, he loses without being able to control his mind because of the influence of alcohol. of course, you will continue to increase the number of bets or maybe bet all in in one spin or buy spin bonus.

I very rarely see gamblers who are affected by alcohol playing in slot games but usually they play in card games but if it is done in slot games I can't imagine what if he will run out of his savings in just a few hours because as you said if If you can't control your thoughts, you will definitely make another deposit while playing this slot game without being influenced alcohol. a gambler can lose control, even if he is influenced by alcohol, his savings balance will definitely be destroyed.

I think This could happen because under the influence of alcohol, of course our minds are not fully conscious, especially if gambling is related to money, this will obviously result in huge losses, perhaps that is so, because many people gamble without being under the influence of alcohol, they can lose self-control. especially if they gamble while drinking alcohol, of course this is not a good thing, I often lose when gambling on slots, and I am sure that 80% of all people who gamble on slots experience losses, not wins, because slot gambling itself was founded to make a profit, not give any win for all gamblers because if it were like that, maybe there would be many people who gamble and always have a profit, but unfortunately all of that is not real, in fact many people get more dominant losses.

Even though they gamble without being influenced by alcohol, I'm sure they have done things they shouldn't, such as making another deposit when they lose, and maybe it's clear that if they gamble on slots and are influenced by alcohol, they will gamble without being able to control their emotions, chances are they will always be emotional. with the gambling they do, so they don't see how much money they spend in a short period of time, maybe if you drink a little it's not a problem, if it's to calm their mind, but I think if you really want to calm your mind it's better to drink alcohol but Don't gamble, because that can reduce the risk of your own losses.
1302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and health concern on: January 01, 2024, 04:23:51 PM

It must be a really big amount that triggers the blood pressure. Hypertension causes stroke whichever feelings a patient may have so long as it is a burst of feeling I guess it could cause stroke or death at worst.

The environment you have while gambling online isn't affecting much of your feelings though whether you lose or not. I think online gamblers are safe unlike those in the arena or on-the-table games.

True, with what he experienced or what he meant to have a heart attack due to the surprise of the victory he managed to get then here we can already conclude a little that the victory must be very big for him, even though it was a very happy thing but he had a disease that was easily affected by situations such as stroke, The heart attack was triggered by the unusual burst of endorphins felt so that the shock caused the brain nerves to be disrupted and triggered the recurrence of their disease (for those who have), on the other hand fortunately he was in a fairly favorable situation as the OP said that at the same time he was with one of his sons so he could get timely treatment.

I think wherever you gamble whether it's in an online or offline casino it will still affect your feelings, the shock of victory does not know the environment where you gamble, I have one friend who is involved in online gambling, a few days ago he managed to get the maximum win on the type of slot game, he was surprised and the reaction he gave off was extraordinary which eventually made his gatget thrown and broken, that's one example so no matter where you gamble, the reaction from the sensation you will feel is still the same.
1303  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino games and the house edge : Players odds to win? on: January 01, 2024, 04:04:01 PM
I remember enquiring to the customer service of one of the crypto-casinos years ago about the house edge for some of their slot-type game (if I remember correctly) and not only the customer service could not give me an answer - they didn't even know what the house edge was.
I bet you mate they know, oh yes the customer service correctly have an idea of the house edge but only pulled up that professional stunt to  dodge from giving you the answer you seek. It could be that the ratio of their house edge could be so discouraging for any gambler to believe that they can stand a chance if they should have knowledge of it. What I think every gambler should be doing is observing how much you lose on a particular game of a casino despite all manner of strategies used, in that way you can judge for yourself if the odds of winning in terms of the house edge is actually fair or not.
When it comes to slot HE then it isnt something that you would really be asking. Why? it would be understandable that it would be that huge comparing into those typical games like Dice or other similar ones. We do consider out that there are factors that would be affecting those things specially into that different RTP percentage and other similar stuffs on which it would really be that affecting in overall
winning chance. This is why on the time that you do make some gambling then it would be always better that you should really be that mindful or really that making up some realizations that house do always win at the end unless if you do really get engaged with those strategic games then it might really be that needing that different approach.

Basically it is very difficult to be able to get a type of gambling where the house only takes a little profit, especially if you are involved in a type of gambling like the slot you said where the percentage of winning is very much smaller than the risk of losing which usually often happens in a row and we can see that there is enough evidence that most people who cannot keep their involvement safe then usually they will lose unexpected amounts and even lose all valuable assets or go crazy.

Speaking of RTP machines I think it's a foolishness and deception made by casinos to increase the confidence of gamblers who want to play, if you believe in the percentage of RTP machines then I think you should immediately change your belief, the logic is that RTP machines are made by the casinos themselves and obviously I think there are quite a lot of suspicions that we should think about, honestly I have tried several RTP machines at several online casinos which turned out not to be in line with expectations, such as for example RTP shows a high percentage of around 90% and above and when I try several times it turns out the same results still lose. So don't trust easily because winning always depends on how lucky you are at that time, and also on the other hand be careful and firm on self-control and the limits you have made, don't focus too much on winning but focus on preventive measures.
1304  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: It will save your capital more than you can imagine on: January 01, 2024, 03:43:08 PM
Simply put, this is the science of capital and risk management. you are right this is necessary. It's just that before that, I believe we must first learn to control our emotions, this is even more important because with controlled emotions our decisions will definitely be very wise. we become less anxious about taking any risks. We can always accept the results, usually this method is successful in achieving profits according to the target, this depends on how we can control it all. Be careful with greed, it is very dangerous for our assets.
You are right there mate. It’s hard to resort into cut loss when your emotions are against on it. Most of the  time, our emotions control our decisions that’s why we lose consistently in the process. Cutting our losses is a big decision that will change the outcome of our trades, but if we think our trades will not head into positivity, hence we should go cutting our losses. And we can only do that if we can manage our emotions as well so that the outcome of our decision will not be compromised.

Of course, because emotions become one of our biggest enemies when we trade or mean involved in the world of trading, it is always a big problem when the results at the end of the session are not as desired or mean the strategy they use misses so they end up losing, but that's natural because after all this is trading where risk always cannot be avoided completely.

It is not easy and even very difficult for most traders to be able to manage their own emotions when such situations are happening and most of those who do not have any management and planning on their trading engagements and that is why many end up with a large amount of losses that eventually make them give up and fail. So the most important point is that management and self-control really need to be emphasized for prevention when you are in such situations.
1305  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: January 01, 2024, 03:14:39 PM
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That's right, in my opinion, someone who is addicted to gambling will find it difficult to recover from their addiction, because someone who is addicted tends not to want to see anything other than their addiction because they will only focus on gambling, which has become something they usually do. but in my opinion it depends on the level of addiction, if their addiction is serious it is possible that they will not be able to stop gambling and as you said they can go back to gambling and it might even get worse in the future.

and if their addiction is not too serious, chances are they can recover in a short time, but it also depends on themselves whether they really want to stop gambling or not, if they are still hesitant about stopping gambling, chances are they will return to gambling again. a certain time because they cannot control their desire to gamble, and even if they still gamble, I don't think they will gamble within the set budget, but to minimize the risk of serious gambling addiction, perhaps this can be done by reducing their gambling activities and by limiting each budget when they want to gamble, but even so it doesn't guarantee that they won't become addicted to gambling.

Yeah, it depends how deep in the addiction the person is.

Also it depends on the why the person wants to stop being addicted.

At the end of the day, addiction is a difficult thing to overcome, and it requires a lot of work and time.

Yes, we can measure the difficulty of overcoming gambling addiction from how serious the addiction problem they suffer is, if it is very para in the sense that they have to justify all means to get money for gambling such as for example taking some actions out of control whether it is stealing or deceiving people then obviously requires an unusual formula or one that is considered powerful enough to be able to overcome it, no matter slowly because however it must take a long time to change their mindset and keep them away from their gambling habits.

There are many reasons that will come out of gamblers, some can be trusted and really say from their little hearts and some are basically just words, usually if they only say and there is no seriousness in terms of not taking any action then here I can already conclude a little that their desire to stop is only when they lose in one of their latest sessions which makes them desperate, but that is only for a moment and most likely when they already have money then they will gamble again.

Overall yes it is true that addiction is one of the things that is difficult to overcome, one of the reasons is because it is very difficult to change mindsets and habits and in addition to addicted gamblers they put hope in the activity so it is difficult to achieve awareness and common sense.
1306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online or offline gambling which is more safer? on: January 01, 2024, 02:28:25 PM
It is true that basically both types of gambling are liked by the public, but currently people also prefer and are interested in online gambling, apart from being easy to access, online gambling also has an extraordinary attraction, namely various kinds of games that are very easy. attract the attention of the community itself, for example slots. Many people love the slot game itself.
Yes, that's right, what must be paid attention to is that people must be able to control themselves when gambling, so that they don't become addicted to gambling and can also reduce the risks involved in gambling.
And because maybe people prefer online casinos, that makes more people addicted to gambling because they can't control themselves. They return to online casinos because they want to play other gambling games that they think can give them a win. But not everything will happen according to their wishes because most of them will experience defeat. For slot games, many people already like them and play them often. That's because many slot game providers have many challenging slots. People must realize that slot games are very tempting and can make them forget to stop. They need to have good self-control so they don't get deeper into slot games or other gambling games.

That's right, because the appearance is very attractive and easy, so many people play this slot game, people will get carried away and think it will be easy to win, even though in reality there are many people who are less fortunate there and many experience big losses and lose a lot. I have heard stories that many gamblers experience downturns in their lives, such as running out of finances and being in debt here and there because of the impact of slot gambling, and I have also heard that it is rare for people to be lucky in carrying out their slot activities.
How sad it would be if someone close to us experienced something bad as a result of gambling, right?

Yes that's right, lately I also see that types of gambling like slots are really increasing in popularity, I think most gamblers will know or even have been involved in this game first, and even usually people first get to know gambling through this type of gambling, like in my country which lately more and more news circulating that slot gambling transactions are increasing, In the last year, the increase in the audience involved there can be 100x the previous year, it is true that one of the reasons why more are interested is because this type of gambling is easy to do, does not require any skills and people only need to adapt a little to how to play on several types of games that have been provided.

Another thing is that in this type of gambling the casino puts a maximum win on most of the games that are there, you can get $100 by only putting $1 if you can get that maximum win, but it's not that easy, honestly I also sometimes like to play in this type of game, it's been a while but not too often and honestly I've never gotten the maximum win like some people around me, it's very difficult. And maybe one of the things that makes many gamblers addicted to slots because they pursue the maximum winnings that are there so they keep betting without realizing that the amount of loss is very large and there are even my neighbors who have to sell their land just to pay off debts due to slots.
1307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling game is not good and everyone should stay away from it on: January 01, 2024, 02:06:15 PM
Of course everyone who gambles wants to win in the games they play, but it will be very different for those who can control themselves and can also manage their gambling time, for those who can do this of course they will not spend a lot of their money gambling and they have set a budget for gambling and can stop when they experience losses in their gambling.
This really depends on each individual controlling themselves well, but it is very difficult to be able to do this if we are in a game and almost lose, for some people who have become addicted to betting it will certainly be very difficult to control themselves. them when gambling.
It depends on each person who gambles. If they can use gambling properly, they can control themselves and will not be affected by anything they see in gambling. But if they want to use gambling to make money, it is not a good choice because they will experience losses. The loss could be greater if they lose control of themselves. Besides that, they also have the opportunity to develop a gambling addiction that is difficult to cure. So they should think first whether they really need gambling to serve as entertainment or whether they can look for other means of entertainment besides gambling. There are still many things they can do to get entertainment and not just play gambling, where in gambling games, there is a risk of loss, which they may not be able to face.

True, because every gambler has a different approach and management in his gambling activities, I think such people are only those who come with a goal that is not excessive, such as maybe just to fill their empty time when bored and get some entertainment from gambling (not including victory). On the other hand of course it is true, for people who come with the aim of earning then usually the opposite happens, in the sense that they even experience a lot of defeats and even in a row, none other than because for such people they will make more attempts to get a win while on the other hand luck is unknown and it is difficult to be able to get luck in a row.

With excessive action in pursuit of victory then surely they will find many things that upset them such as losing and of course obviously it will make them more emotional and will never stop gambling while having money to bet, and if they can't stop from such situations then obviously addiction is in front of their eyes, their days will get worse and worse in gambling, most likely some valuable items will be sold for gambling and they will only stop when they have run out of everything and at that time then regret comes with a little bit of awareness. Right, so making gambling as entertainment is really more advisable because after all this is a risky activity.
1308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: January 01, 2024, 01:46:31 PM
That's easy to do when you're early on in the gamble but when you're so entranced to it right now, it's going to be a different thing for you because you're having fun and sometimes you go overboard because you can't think straight when you're having fun so even if people take that advice to heart, it's definitely a hard thing to do maybe if we're aware about doing it and we do it continuously, maybe we can do the gamble with care consistently.
On the time that you are already experiencing those kind of emotion boost up on the time that you are playing gambling then you are really that bound on having those kind of changing decisions on which those earlier plans that you had made would really be that bound to fail or would really be that commiting those change up plans. You would really be tolerating the addiction that you are currently
feeling out and you are really that proceeding without minding about the consequences and outcomes might really be that changed out. You would really be finding yourself on such big trouble on the time that you would really be making yourself that tolerating specially on addiction. There's no way that you would really be able stop it when addiction is really that severe.

True, and that is why we should not overdo it and are advised to be responsible gamblers, because obviously usually if you gamble excessively such as putting an amount that you cannot afford to lose then of course when the result loses you will be emotional because you cannot accept the harsh reality and that is the danger when emotions have taken over you then usually like you said they will forget some precautions and limits that they initially made which finally continue to act out of control such as chasing defeat until their money is completely gone.

On the other hand, as we know in general that something that is done based on emotion, the results are usually more disappointing or not in accordance with expectations, which is the reason why we must be really strict in maintaining involvement in gambling, do not try to overdo it just because you see something that seems tempting or upset because of defeat. It's important to know that you're not going to be able to win and lose and that means that if you're ready to win then you also have to be able to accept the risk of losing, it's natural and everyone experiences the same thing but maybe not everyone is as stupid as you in terms of overreacting.
1309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: January 01, 2024, 01:27:44 PM
I don't believe on experts but I believe on luck,,, hope you understand what I mean?
If we are talking of experts that means the whole time they played gamble, they will win and not lose even one round but when I talk about luck, I mean that you are not losing enough money but gaining more money from gamble.
However even if someone gives me a game to bet and he or she said I should bet big amount of money in it, I will only bet the amount that I can afford to lose and not over stake. Just in case the game lost I will not have to regret my actions.
Finally, even if I win the game, I will be happy for the little I have gotten.

That's clear, I think only fools believe the experts when it comes to gambling, for the problem of results is completely unknowable or and maybe just a few indications such as the spin looks to be good but that also cannot be used as a reference that we will win. And only luck can really ensure that you get a win, nothing more than that. Honestly, I never thought that in gambling there is such a thing as an expert, and there is a point as you say if they are experts then obviously they are great at getting wins in gambling, but in fact, yes some OP friends have lost and isn't that stupid? obviously, the promise of 100% victory that the experts say is just nonsense.

The point is gambling is only about luck in my opinion, because the final result is always about winning and losing and anyone never knows when he will win and lose, so everything is still gray, if gambling results can be predicted then wouldn't many people become billionaires? of course but the reality is not like that. On the other hand, I agree with you that it is better to put only the amount that we can afford, because there is no certainty of winning, so it is better for prevention so that you do not lose a large amount.
1310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the perception of people about gamblers in your neighborhood? on: January 01, 2024, 03:08:47 AM
Basically I think in general for most people (not just one area) have a negative point of view on gambling including in my own area, I can confirm that because we are talking about gambling which is an activity that requires the allocation of money to be involved with the aim of betting and looking for the final result whether winning or losing, on the other hand if gambling is not about profit - profit then obviously the public's point of view will not be negative, but however something based on luck is always difficult to predict the end result which means it has the potential to increase money and lose money.

But overall gamblers experience  more losses than wins because bookmakers build casinos with the aim of their own profits so it is only natural that it is very difficult for gamblers to be in a lucky situation in a row. Gambling has the potential for addiction which will certainly make gamblers even more addicted and curious about the final result and that curiosity will make them continue to try their luck which is very difficult to get because as I said luck is always unpredictable so gamblers experience a lot of money loss and because of that impact one of which makes the public's perspective on gambling very negative.
1311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for fun, is it a lie that we tell ourselves? on: January 01, 2024, 02:29:20 AM
Do you think that rich people don't gamble? If you think so, you are wrong. And do you think that they gamble to win money? Of course not, because they already have a lot of money and they don't need to earn money from gambling as they have enough sources of income already. So, they gamble just for fun and they consider it an activity of the rich as they often tend to choose to do what requires a lot of money so that they can show the world that they are rich and they can afford a very expensive lifestyle.

So, it depends on one's financial ability and their mindset about gambling in general, and that mindset is often a result of the financial capabilities of a person, which means that if you are rich and can afford it, you will just enjoy gambling, but if you are not rich and still gambling, it means you are looking for money through it.

I fully agree wit you, there are rich as there are poor people that enjoy gambling. It doesn't really depend on how much money we have, because gambling is usually possible and small sizes. So, everybody can choose how much money he is willing to bet with. Rich people have the exact same winning chances that we have, the only difference is that their bankroll is larger and they are not at risk to go broke so quickly. I believe the fun and excitement from gambling is not connected to our own personal financial situation.  Also, just visiting a physical casino can be a lot of fun without betting a lot of money ourselves. Usually people like to drink and gamble, because alcohol is either free or cheap at the casinos. The company we are with at the casinos is also important for having a good time. Just because I lost some money doesn't mean the night was a complete failure if I am with my best friends.

Yes basically everyone is free to engage in gambling, rich or poor it doesn't matter as long as they come with money that will be used as capital with the smallest or middle or highest amount that has been applied to the minimum and maximum deposit on the gambling site, on the other hand casinos never force gamblers in terms of putting the amount to bet, all of that is optional and depends on each gambler's comfort in the matter of the amount of budget they want to allocate and healthy gamblers are those who can put the amount that suits the money they have. or I mean if they have a small income then obviously the budget allocation for gambling should also be small, and for that matter it is beyond the control of others because only they know about how much money they have, I'm not saying that rich people should put a bigger amount, and for that matter it's out of other people's control because only they know about how much they want to bet but obviously anyway it's more advisable to put an amount that we can afford to be responsible for whatever the outcome is.

That's right, in gambling everyone involved will have the same chances, especially in winning, no matter rich or poor, and also in terms of the possibility of risk occurring is also the same but maybe for the problem of the amount of defeat all gamblers will definitely be different, simply put, the defeat of the rich must be much greater than the poor because in terms of the amount of their budget is different but for the problem of bankruptcy it depends on whether they are excessive or not in gambling. Another thing for the problem of whether the financial situation will affect the pleasure of gambling activities I think it comes back to the point of view of each gambler. I think the fun that exists in a physical casino without participating in betting lies in socializing with many people because obviously there we will meet many people and maybe new things that are quite fun, enjoying drinks and chatting with other people can also be called fun.
1312  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 01, 2024, 01:48:12 AM
Arsenal results in three matches mean that they will move away from the championship and this will happen in a scenario similar to last year. Totthenham has recovered very well compared to last season. With the right transfers, if they had not had injury problems this season, they would definitely have collected more points. They are currently in fifth place and only one point away from the two teams ahead of them. Even Tottenham are more stable than Arsenal at the moment.
Indeed, it is very unfortunate, because Arsenal have lost again to middle-class clubs in a row. Yesterday's 2 - 1 defeat against Fulham was disappointing again, after their previous defeat. Even though here, Arsenal was ahead in scoring a goal in the first 5 minutes. but unfortunately after that, they were unable to score another goal, in fact the situation was reversed and they were the ones who conceded 2 goals after that. And what is quite unfortunate is that as usual, they are quite good at ball possession but are not able to attack it well. This is really lame. And it is indeed quite similar to last season's scenario where Arsenal's performance decreased even more when they were in the middle of the season. and they are now only at the fourth posiiton.

Honestly this time Arsenal really made the fans most likely to lose faith, consecutive defeats against teams that are much weaker than them are very bad results for a team like Arsenal who have always been favored in several seasons, honestly for me personally this is an unexpected result, I thought before they would be able to comeback by trying hard to get the full three points in this match to restore the confidence of the fans and also to maintain the prestige of the club after losing to West Ham 2 - 0 but apparently my assumptions and predictions were wrong.

Yes at the start of the first half especially in the 5th minute Arsenal managed to take the lead through a goal from Bukayo Saka, the lead at the start of the match made us cheer and enough to increase confidence that Arteta would not waste this match to catch Manchester City in third place along with staying away from Tottenham's pursuit, but yes as you said it's a shame that Arsenal couldn't catch up at all in the second half, for the problem of possession I honestly saw them pretty good but yes their main problem is on the blunt front line so of course it's hard to take advantage of every opportunity.
1313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers understood the game on: January 01, 2024, 01:27:25 AM
Unless there is someone who is familiar with gambling before but just wants to learn to gamble with other types of bets and you can teach him some games that he doesn't know.
Like some time ago my friend came to my house to ask about online gambling because he was only gambling to buy lottery tickets and wanted to know how to gamble online like poker slots etc.

if they have ever gambled or are currently actively gambling, we no longer invite them. Gambling sharing is a commons, if we already know that the person is an active gambler, this situation is similar with our discussion here in this forum. If they ask about the game, I can give any explanations as far as he is a active gambler. But I personally would not suggest any games and would not ask him to try the games let he doing by himself, because after all I would feel bad if I suggested a games and caused that person to lose, even though he was playing with conscience and own responsibility.

Yes and usually it happens to our friends, or I mean usually most people who ask to be taught how to gamble are people who are familiar or even very close, because basically gambling has a negative viewpoint in the eyes of society and that is the reason some people do not ask people they don't know (not close) to teach them to gamble. If for example the situation is as you say that they already realize that they are one of the gamblers then we don't need to give any advice unless they ask or experience problems such as frozen accounts or unprocessed withdrawals at one of the casinos they are involved in then we can share advice, it doesn't matter.

Maybe it seems that I will also do the same as you, in the sense that I will not tell them to enter some of the games that I like for example because obviously they are not necessarily comfortable with the game and maybe I will only introduce it without telling them to try it, because for that matter they also have their own choices. Basically every gambler has a different approach or way or favorite game, so there is a point if we prefer not to suggest let alone force, because the fear is like what you said, it could be that when they lose the game then they will come to us to question.
1314  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not everyone deserves to hear of your winning in gambling. on: December 31, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
That's true there are many selfish people around us who are getting jealous from the others success so if we think about this cost then yes not everyone deserve to hair a person winning in gambling.  I will also say one thing that there are also lot of people that who learn wrong think and become addicted on gambling for saying others success. So I am agree with your words that not everyone deserve to hear your winning in gambling.

That's true, and it has become commonplace in society that someone can become selfish and jealous of seeing other people's success and this also makes someone try to get the same success as other people.
It would be better if we were successful in gambling, it would be better if we just kept quiet because that is the best step so that later we don't cause problems for other people because the nature of social jealousy is different for each person and of course the success we receive is not necessarily acceptable. by other people. .

Honestly for myself I would not say that it is success but rather a victory that they get for the luck they get in the gambling session they do so that they can get a number of wins, on the other hand we have to distinguish victory from success because in gambling I think there is no word success but only winning because of luck. Moving on to the topic, from what you said of course it could be a possibility for people to feel jealous of the wins that other people or even their own friends managed to get so as the OP said that it has the potential to make them feel motivated to join in hoping to get the same fate as those who managed to win.

But it's not that easy, simply put in terms of gambling someone will not be able to follow the luck or the number of wins that other people have managed to get, the point is all about winning and losing and for the problem of when you will win and how much victory you will get all that is still gray - gray. And obviously I agree to the point of what you said that if indeed we managed to get a win then it is better not to tell others and enjoy it alone, except maybe telling some of the closest people like friends actually it can't be avoided. 
1315  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's Your Feeling After You Finish Gambling. on: December 31, 2023, 07:48:35 PM
When I finish my session, the feeling that I can get will depend on the outcome of my game. If I end up tripling or more my money, I will feel happy. But if it was the opposite, I will be depressed. Their duration will depend on the amount involved but most of the times, they can only last within an hour.

Of course, for the problem of feelings really can't be lied to, as you said if you end the session with a win with any amount of money increase then obviously the feeling you feel must be happy especially if the amount of budget you bring up to 10x for example, sensation and happiness will dominate at the end of the session. But if on the other hand, if you lose then I think even if you only bring a negligible amount then surely at least a sense of disappointment will definitely be there and usually if gamblers cannot manage themselves when they are in such a situation then usually they will return to re-depositing with the intention of revenge and chasing the break-even point.

But in gambling it will not always be that easy to return something that has been lost, therefore it is always recommended to be able to accept all the possibilities that can occur at the end, not only for victory but we must also be able to accept the risk of defeat, simply put we must be able to be a responsible gambler. Another thing is that for myself, honestly, the duration of pleasure I get usually only lasts until the winning money runs out.
1316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling all about luck? on: December 31, 2023, 05:15:07 PM

Better to have that kind of mindset, as luck is never accurate I mean, you can't assure that it will be there in each gambling session that you participate, the way you express your opinion is valid it's best to have decent job instead of hoping for luck to come and make your bets win, though we all know that there are people who loves to take that big risk and hope that aside from luck that mostly influence the outcome but also the knowledge that they acquire with the gambling experienced that they participate each time they place their bets.

It also help them not just to lean with luck but also with the assessment and good research with the game they are playing, they might have that opportunity to win in gambling.

It is true that such a mindset and point of view is more advisable to apply to the gambling they do, emphasizing and convincing themselves that the workings of luck are always unpredictable, in my opinion by learning to understand luck and applying it to gambling activities it will further minimize actions that are out of control or that are not recommended. I understand that victory will definitely be obtained but the problem here is that it is not that easy to get it because you will not always get luck in every gambling session. For myself honestly this activity is just to fill empty time when I'm off work and without expecting any winnings, and also yes it's true buddy that it's better to find another job that is more certain in terms of income, or that promises to give them a monthly salary to make ends meet, hoping that winning from gambling will only get you into a lot of trouble because obviously in terms of risk is far greater than the chances of winning.




Yes we can't fully depend on gambling because it's can't be our main source of income. No one know that what is going to happened in future especially in gambling. We must do job of business or other work for main income source become that will complete our daily needs. On the other side luck is with you every time that's the reason no one tell that you are going to big loss or big win in future. If you win then ok but when the losses is huge then that create problem that's the reason we must do other work beside gambling.

Only people who come with the wrong understanding will assume like that and make gambling their main place of income, the fact is that they only look at one side, namely the chances of winning and do not consider the consequences of losing which is clearly more common and higher in percentage than the chances of winning. Why is gambling so prohibited to be used as a place of income? Obviously you have also said one of the reasons is because we will never be able to predict when luck will come and of course in addition it is better for us to look for certainty, or that means looking for other jobs that can provide guarantees in terms of earning to meet daily needs.

We must understand that winning in gambling always remains dependent on your luck while on the other hand needs cannot be tolerated, simply put if you need something in terms of the necessities of life then obviously at that time you must have money to spend, whereas what if you lose in gambling at the same time? obviously it will make you unable to fulfill your life needs and will only cause a lot of money problems, so with that I hope to be able to think more realistically in seeing something new.
1317  Economy / Gambling / Re: Responsible gambling on: December 31, 2023, 04:31:09 PM
Among them are people who are good at managing time, managing finances, managing their thoughts and managing their mentality in gambling so that the gambling they do has boundaries or safe principles for themselves, or can be said not to have compulsive and impulsive traits when they gamble. know when to stop gambling, so that there is conducive self-control and money control.

responsible gamblers in my opinion are those who have the things you mentioned, first time, people who are responsible for their gambling they will not use a long time in gambling, it is likely that they gamble with a certain time limit, whether they win or not if they have reached the time limit they will stop and leave gambling,. secondly finances, they can manage their finances well, divide finances evenly, by having a set budget they will gamble with a set budget, and when they lose they don't deposit again, because the budget has been set.

And apart from that they must have a good mind, because those who gamble responsibly will not gamble excessively, it is likely that they will gamble properly, where they gamble reasonably will not do gambling that is out of their control that can harm them quickly.
1318  Economy / Gambling / Re: Slot Educational on: December 31, 2023, 04:11:06 PM
It all matters about your mindset and your own control towards yourself with gambling because if you are an individual whose really that serious or really that mindful when it comes on quitting gambling
then you would definitely quit up on point but if you are really that already getting addicted through it then quitting or stopping would really be that completely a hard thing to be done.
We do know that once addiction had already shackled you then it would really be that so damn hard to quit no matter what you do.You would really be needing that extreme discipline and control
when it comes on stopping gambling for good but if you do see  that it isnt really affecting you in negative way then i dont see the reason for you to stop.
This is only into those people who had been experiencing those hardships when it comes to finances.

It's true, in my opinion it's the mindset that must be addressed, because someone who gambles and is addicted to it is because of their wrong mindset, where they think gambling is easy to get profitable wins, so they have positive thoughts towards gambling, but unfortunately it all just makes them get into trouble in their lives so many people have their lives ruined because of gambling addiction. if only they had a good mindset, maybe they wouldn't become addicted to gambling.

Apart from that, many of them gamble without having discipline, if they gamble with discipline, maybe they will not experience gambling addiction, but no one knows what someone will become addicted to. many people are addicted to gambling because they are not disciplined in gambling, because when they lose they don't stop, but they make another deposit to gamble again with the aim of recovering the losses they have received and this happens a lot so it has become a case that is no longer strange among gamblers.
1319  Economy / Economics / Re: Learn to use DEBT in a proper way to create asset on: December 31, 2023, 03:51:15 PM
When you take debt, you should pay the debt from the loan taken and the only way you can do that is to make money out of that debt. A debt should only be taken to invest. This sounds easy to say but it's very hard. Especially for those who have an opportunity to take loans easily. It requires a lot of discipline to not borrow money when you need money for consumption.
I feel the only time we should borrow money for consumption is for health emergencies and life and death issues.
But as someone who works and make money, you should have planned for emergencies like that

When you get comfortable with taking debt for consumption, it becomes very easy to fall really deep into debt  and that can make you not to make any money because all your money would go to paying off debt

someone who has a good mindset, when he has a business idea or business as well as an investment, and he doesn't have enough funds to do the thing he wants to do, then he takes out a loan in my opinion of course they have thought about everything when they take the loan action money, I think they are very confident that the business they are going to run can generate profits, therefore they dare to take out a loan to carry out something they want.

Sometimes there are people who don't have permanent jobs and they have financial problems because they are forced to take out loans to buy their needs, and this is normal, but I don't know what happens to those who don't have jobs but have debts. that has to be paid off, maybe they can just wait for a miracle to happen, but I think they have to look for a clear job so they can get a steady income, because it's not just for themselves, the debt they have to pay off is also their responsibility.
1320  Economy / Economics / Re: Business failure among small-scale entrepreneurs on: December 31, 2023, 03:30:05 PM
Its never been easy to build up a business on which there's no assurance in speaking about success and other stuffs on which it would really be that not that simple because of other factors which would really affect out when it comes to success. Failure is one of the risks involved once you do hover yourself or step your foot into this industry. Small-scale on which this is where everything is starting because no business would really be starting on being big, unless if its been inherited or being sold to someone then you could start up directly to be big but of course the cost wont really be that cheap and also people would really be preferring on starting up on scratch because they do really know on how to make things to handle since from the start.
That's the problem because building a thriving business is not an easy job and we are required to be able to keep up with the times. Business must also be seen through consumer suitability, for example when we want to open a certain business, the first step we must take is to look at opportunities, whether the business we want to develop has a market that we can target. If not, the business will be quite difficult for us to develop into a more advanced one. I believe that building a business is not easy because it requires patience in the process.

We will definitely experience the risk of failure and loss of basic capital when building a business, but how can we survive when we first start building it? Businesspeople have reserve capital as a form of development and this capital is used when initially building it and when everything runs stable, that's where we can take advantage.

in my opinion someone who starts a business of course has to learn a lot first with what they are going to do, they can learn in many ways, especially with now increasingly sophisticated technology making everything easy to access, if they really want to value a business of course they can learn from the internet, and from the internet there must be a lot that can be made into lessons for the business they are going to run. if they have a good mindset they will take advantage of current technological developments, and this is what they should be able to use to find additional knowledge related to the business they are going to run. despite that, before starting a business they have to prepare everything well, from the management of goods or products, also with marketing later that must be done well, because the products they produce must be marketed well, and with this not all of them have a good mindset.

apart from that, before starting a business they have to prepare everything well, from the management of goods or products, also with marketing later that must be done well, because the products they produce must be marketed well, and with this not everyone has skills in marketing, if they really want to learn to market their products they must look for sources that have good marketing techniques, because marketing is also important, because as far as I know usually a business that has difficulties in its business is due to poor marketing, so this also needs attention.
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