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1361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: December 28, 2023, 08:06:58 PM

They still do this because they still hope to win and become rich from gambling. And they still have hope in gambling so they still gamble until now. But that doesn't change the lives of most people who try to make money from gambling so it only makes their losses bigger. If they could see what had happened to other people, they would regret it because other people only experienced loss without winning. And even if someone were to win, the number of people would not be as large as the number of people who had lost. And when they find out, they will think about looking for a job rather than pinning their hopes on gambling which also doesn't guarantee they can win. But if they try through work, the opportunity to make money is there as long as they can work seriously.

That's what young people must do so that they can develop better and not just rely on other people. Moreover, this is about their long lives and they will be the ones in the future which will be full of competition with other young people. They should not give it all up to gambling because there are still many positive things they can do.

On that point, it's better to for other way of making money, thinking about using this place to earn a stable income is very risky, there are many people who mistakenly think that with knowledge and luck they will be able to make this place as a source of their financial needs, maybe there are some who can but there are more people who can't and just continue giving the casino owners the kind of luxury when using the services that they are offering, it's house who can say most of the time that they can make money in a stable way once they already establish their reputation and there are many gambler who are using their platform.

Yes I would also prefer the idea that you said about it being better to look for other alternatives that are more promising and have certainty in terms of earning, such as maybe looking for general work in some companies or others that certainly have certainty to earn. Obviously because of the randomness that exists in gambling which is the main concern and which is the reason why this activity cannot be made as the main job. If indeed you remain stubborn to choose it then what is certain is that instead of earning but the opposite happens where you actually lose a lot of money. The risk in gambling is very large so that is also the reason why you must bring an amount that is able to be responsible for any results, especially defeat.

Gambling is only about winning and losing while not the needs can not be tolerated so that you can still live? while what if you have an urgent need but you lose in gambling? obviously that makes everything absurd if you make gambling a place to earn or a main job, so I think try to reconsider before you make a decision that ultimately makes you regret it.
1362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: December 28, 2023, 07:40:14 PM
As the gambling industry is evolving, I think innovations would have kicked in that can make someone create a career from gambling. I do not know how this can be achieved but I feel it is possible.

Making gambling a full time job might be seen as risky but I still feel one can make gambling full time job and a career.

What do you all think?

If I my ask is gambling a career, to me, I do not think that gambling is a career, gambling for me is just a social activity, I stand to be corrected I don't see gambling something serious, so making it a job will amount to a high level of deceit, how will you make something you don't earn a permanent money from a job, gambling is not sure, with all reasonable thinking I have thought about it in all way round, I see gambling as an uncertain way of individuals doubling their money, but making career out of gambling is not visible to me unless you are talking in terms of those gambling site ambassadors.
There is a small group of people that can make gambling their main occupation as they can obtain profits out of it, however this is not easy to do at all and most of those that know how to do that keep the secret as they do not want to share their methods with anyone, however even those people live an unstable life as casinos do not like them at all and they get sooner or later banned as they are bad for business, so it is not really a lifestyle which most people can maintain for long even if they want to.

But it seems I will ask what type of gambling they play so that it can be used as a place to earn income? I have to be a little suspicious and will they be able to produce some consistent winning amounts over the long term? while on the other hand, this is absolutely impossible to do unless they are one of the casino agents or even casino owners, but if they are nothing more than just ordinary players then I don't think I will believe that they can really make gambling a the main place of income to cover all his life needs.

We must understand that however, gambling always cannot predict the results because this is a gamble, and you will only be able to win consecutively if you can control luck to always be on your side in every session, but that is too impossible, isn't it? Cheesy Logically, if they really had that kind of method then they should be able to become billionaires, but wouldn't you say that they have an unstable life? so maybe I would only believe that they could make gambling their main job if they were one of the owners of the casino. Wink
1363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is you who can't stop betting. on: December 28, 2023, 07:19:12 PM
Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

Gambling is full of fun and this is undeniable, there's a way we can make a determination of not gambling again andyet we still finds it more interesting to continue with gambling, we are not able to overcome the urge we have towards gambling regardless of the consequences we are seing, some will not mind continuing with gambling even when they have lost countless times, maybe when we lack money on our bankroll, that may reduce the way we also gambles.

Honestly I can't say that people come just because they see the fun in it, because after all one can't lie to themselves when a losing streak is dominating and isn't that a situation that can be disappointing? Sure, I think they will really feel the fun when they can achieve their desire to win, but that kind of result is not easy to get. And one of the things that makes it difficult for gamblers to quit in my opinion is that there is an excessive expectation of winning even though losing is more common, the fact is that if they take gambling too seriously then they will enter the cycle of "winning addicted and losing curious" that is what makes it difficult for someone to quit in my opinion.

1364  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling game is not good and everyone should stay away from it on: December 28, 2023, 06:50:11 PM

That is the temptation of gambling that many people are not aware of, so they continue to gamble without stopping. Most people will experience many losses, and many will not even realize their losses. That mindset makes them return to gambling more often than before because they think they still have a chance to win when they don't have it at all. And if they borrow money from other people, that is a big mistake because it will not guarantee that they will win, but there is a possibility that they will only experience a lot of losses. Yes, they have to change their mindset before it's too late because gambling can really change them quickly without them realizing it. Instead of experiencing losses from gambling, they should look for other ways to generate income. They can use investing in bitcoin as one way, but they still have to learn about it before deciding to invest in it.
Some gamblers keep losing gambling because of their mistakes, some gamblers can recover after losing gambling, and some gamblers who win gambling but cannot keep it, lose that money.  So gambling does not happen to everyone. Because of this, the best way to avoid gambling is to keep yourself under control and gamble in small amounts so that even if you lose, it does not become too big. Then gambling would not be a very bad thing for him.  But if one bets more than he can afford and loses, it will be very bad for him.  So gambling is not good for everyone.  Because people have different thinking

One of the mistakes that makes them finally stuck in the cycle of losing streaks in my opinion is because they are too many experiments while gambling is only based on luck to be able to get a definite victory, so it is clear that the more often you try the number of defeats will dominate as well because it is very difficult to be or get lucky in a row, and sometimes even if you get a victory it is not the end of everything or I mean I can't say that it is a real victory because the inability to resist greed is always the main problem that finally the amount they win is lost again just because of chasing something that is not certain.

Yes, the idea of your statement is always good advice for gamblers by limiting the allocation of money on gambling and only putting the smallest amount they can afford to lose, it is really recommended because usually out of control actions always appear when you are unable to accept defeat and lose money, so of course to minimize the amount of defeat so that it is not too large, one of which is by limiting the amount of budget.

1365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: December 28, 2023, 06:03:49 PM
Just as taking high risk while gambling can lead to more money in a short period of time, losing all money in a short period of time leads to despair. It is never right to take high risk while gambling because in gambling, no one can say that he will succeed if he takes the risk. Can. If we try to gamble with control over ourselves, we will be less prone to losing money.

Making high stakes in gambling doesn't guarantee your success. In fact, it even increases your chances of loosing more money. They say gamble for fun, but the fun comes from wining more than the losses we experience. So high stakes or high risk by putting higher odds are only putting you in positions where if making a single win becomes a problem. The best thing to do, is to relax and play with lower odds and not high odds. One of the reason we feel rich people have more wins than some of us is, they pick small odds and us e a high stake, or the pick just one game in a bet.
Yes, that's right, after all, high bets won't guarantee a big win, everything still depends on luck, the point is, just set your gambling budget well so that it stays under control and doesn't gamble beyond the limit, bet casually without having to rush and be careful and try to use it. strategy to be able to enjoy gambling in a relaxed manner, because gambling calmly and relaxed will make you feel good too.

Don't be too hasty in gambling, victory will come by itself as a gambler, you must be able to use gambling as entertainment, don't think too much about it as a source of income, if you feel confident, bet everything, if you are not sure, you should stop betting and gambling. Don't be too greedy in making the decision to place unnecessary and high bets.

That is why it is always advisable for anyone to keep betting or lower their bet amount or as we usually call it put the amount that we can afford to be responsible for if the final result really happens, not least because as you said that everything out there is always random and therefore I think the idea that I mentioned above really makes sense as a precautionary measure for safety because of course there is no point if you emphasize greed too much if victory always depends on luck and in addition anyone will never know when luck will come.

Limiting the amount you bet along with the time you bet and lowering your expectations is one of the more advisable approaches, after all if you're lucky then it's obvious as you said that the winnings will come naturally, and this is how I always use in my gambling engagements to balance bankroll allocation with other needs.
1366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lack of proper knowledge on casino games increases chance of loss and reduce fun on: December 28, 2023, 05:24:27 PM
When you are losing the fun also losses mate and that is the given scenarios , as if
you will still have fun when you are at losing streak? and also knowledge in gambling needs to
be learn by time and by how much we lose , but this will only takes place when you are willing
to learn and not just to seek for win and win while we are not having this regularly , and with
those attitude then you will not turn a winner forever.

I think that anyone will not be able to lie to themselves if the situation is not on their side, especially there is absolutely no victory in the few sessions they do then obviously I think there will be a little bit of annoyance in their little heart and hasn't everything changed that it is no longer fun that is obtained but annoyance, right? And I think it's more reasonable to say that anyone will feel pleasure when luck is on their side, but unfortunately most gamblers overreact to it so that they always chase victory and instead suffer many defeats.

So the right understanding of gambling is really needed and not only that because as the OP said that ignorance in running the game can also be a problem for you which makes defeat closer due to some actions that should not be done due to ignorance.
1367  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: December 28, 2023, 04:59:19 PM
IMHO, there's no problem if you're too optimistic with your bets and you're hopeful with them. But with what we've experienced, when you get to the point that hope and optimism you've got don't match the results. That's the time that you need to change and probably a sign to just stop.

I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not, but I'm sure it's a good idea to try it first to get some experience and an answer as to whether or not what they're doing is really in line with expectations or even worse than previously imagined, And for the problem of applying greed actually as a whole or even before they find the final result, they can actually indirectly see many examples from other people about the impact of greed itself, because there are also many out there gamblers who have first applied greed and get good or bad effects as a result of their actions, but yes on the other hand maybe they don't believe in the bad effects of greed that other people do. Therefore they may want to try it first to get the real answer, as you said if indeed the end result is really not appropriate and instead disappointment dominates then obviously one of the things to do next is to avoid such actions with the impetus of consciousness.
The effect of it doesn't need some experiment or what not for them to realize that they're on the wrong side having that emotion.

The learning will be there and just as what we're saying that gamblers shouldn't be greedy because that's one of the worst enemies that we can have and won't let us proceed any longer as we gamble.

But if they want to try and see where they're heading with that emotion, everyone is free to go and choose their own paths.

Yes, but sometimes there are some people who find it difficult to believe in something if they don't experience it or don't find the answer themselves, and I think it really happens when someone is difficult to advise and they can really realize when they have experienced it themselves, and it might be said that experimentation is also needed according to  stubborn people like them. But on the other hand, of course, the better option is to act early and consider some advice from others who have already experienced it.

Basically, the idea of greed in  general can actually be concluded as one of the actions that is not recommended or should not be done, none other than because most people already agree that it will only make things worse and there is already a lot of real evidence that should be taken into consideration. On the other hand if they are so stubborn then obviously maybe we can only let it go because after all at least we have told them from the start and the rest is up to them.
1368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does casino streamers have influence in your gambling life? on: December 28, 2023, 04:39:08 PM

Both parties will be benefited if happens that they able to attract gamblers to use their platforms, whatever it is, and however it is, that they did to allure those gamblers to visit their platforms and play the game, deposit money means potential earnings for casino owners and also means that portions of that money will be used to pay streamers who stream their site and provide reviews and referrals to direct gamblers to play using their services.

That's right, as I said earlier that the main priority of stremers is how they can increase the number of viewers involved in one of the casino sites they promote, because everyone needs money including stremers, and also on the other hand they make money by exploring the digital world or making money from the internet to finance their every need. So the point is quite reasonable if they do everything just to get money and also include by ignoring the fate of the gamblers who have entered to get involved because of the airing of promotions that they do.

On the other hand, maybe the risk that can be experienced by stremers when their country does not legalize gambling for its people, it can be a problem because especially in my country it is not uncommon for some stremers or influencers to be arrested by the authorities due to the promotion of gambling that is not legalized, and that means that even though on the other hand this is a pretty good job for them because the money from the deal I think is quite large but there is a big risk too, and they must be more careful in doing the broadcast.


On point and I completely agree with your arguments regarding to how streamers take the responsibility in terms of bringing more clients to the casino that they are promoting,  it's also true that there's nothing more important to most streamers but money,  they will try to do everything to allure  those gamblers to try out and experience the fun playing using the platform.  No question about how money  moves most of those people who works for this kind of services.

But like what you mentioned,  the risk is also possible if the country where streamers are located don't cater or not legalized gambling business,  they are subjected and possible committing crimes if being sieze by the government.

Yes, this seems reasonable because we are talking based on the facts that are happening friends, so of course on the other hand this is quite interesting to discuss  because the casino is really smart in advancing its business which is very suitable or in line with developments that are almost completely digital and easy, not only related to casinos but also quite a few other businesses that are also engaged in the online field which also utilize the services of stremers such as maybe some trading brokers or marketplaces that we usually use more often to shop easily than having to go to the market. So of course if everything is run in  accordance with the times then indirectly the business will be more directed and quite in accordance with what is needed by people who also want to compete with other individuals to be more advanced in terms of knowledge..

We return to the original topic that as you said money is very important and not for stremers alone but for everyone who lives and who has needs, and everyone has their own place and profession in making money like the stremers  that I have mentioned that their main focus is usually  making money in the digital world in any way that includes becoming a casino partner in promoting the site or becoming an affiliator of a broker. So far, I think the problem for stremers is the restrictions imposed by the government in terms of legality, especially on gambling.
1369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How discipline are you in managing your bankroll? on: December 28, 2023, 04:14:57 PM
Some people are too focused on winning so that is always the initial problem for them to forget some of the limits and management that they have made before like you said and it happens usually without realizing it, it is true that it is always undeniable even though we have planned some precautions at the beginning but often we seem to forget it when the session is already running, It's not other than because there are a lot of temptations when we are already in a gambling session that can certainly make us fooled in thinking, such as seeing the winning opportunities that you mentioned which can certainly make someone carried away when in fact it is nothing more than a temptation and the real victory is still difficult to achieve.

Obviously people whose mindset has changed who initially just want entertainment but suddenly all that changes just because they see a very tantalizing chance of winning then of course it is very possible for them to increase the amount of bets because of something that looks tantalizing, in the end it's all just a trick or hallucination that comes out of a hope and lose. Situations that do not match what they want certainly have the potential to make them emotional and after that some out of control actions are likely to occur, chasing defeat to break even is one of the initial actions they will take. That's why it's important to be as assertive as possible when you're already in the session, not to mention that many things that look tempting are nothing more than temptation.
Focusing too much on winning at gambling will only make a person forget the boundaries he has made so that he will not be able to control the use of his money. To win is difficult and we don't know how much money we have to use until we can win, let alone a big win. We should only use enough money to gamble and focus on the game and try to enjoy the game. If we feel that we are getting pleasure from the game, we must immediately stop gambling so as not to lose more money from gambling. That means we have tried to discipline ourselves in playing gambling so that we can still gamble at other times because we are not chasing wins and only enjoy gambling games in our free time.

Many gamblers have actually increased their bets because they see an opportunity to win a larger amount of money. However, this opportunity will not always meet a gambler's expectations because the opportunity may actually turn into a loss. If the gambler doesn't realize it, he can actually continue gambling because he still has hope of winning. This situation will affect their emotions, so they will not be able to remember their self-control and will instead fall deeper into gambling. That is why we must continue to practice self-discipline in gambling because we know that there are many temptations in gambling so we must try to avoid them for our own good.

In fact, in gambling, a person will never know when they will win and how much they will win if luck really comes, and one thing that must be remembered is that we as gamblers can take some actions to minimize the amount of losses, don't you come with the intention of earning? Therefore, if that is true then the right action is to focus more on preventing your losses  from being greater than the wins you get, that's the approach that I think is good if you come with the intention of earning and not by not caring about how much you lose.

The big problem for gamblers is  when expectations are not balanced with reality, meaning that too high expectations are not recommended to be placed on something that does not have any certainty, after all this is a cycle that occurs due to the fault of the brain system that cannot filter things properly.
1370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for fun, is it a lie that we tell ourselves? on: December 27, 2023, 10:04:39 PM
I think gambling can be said to be for fun if you come with a recommended goal or come with a goal not to look for the winning amount. Actually, I personally think the idea of gambling just for fun is nothing more than something that can change someone's mindset on the point of view of gambling, which means to prevent them from the idea of gambling to win because of the many temptations that of course can make them think that gambling can be used as a place to earn, and that is dangerous because actually this activity is not a place to earn, the bookie makes casinos as a place to make profits from some losing gamblers, so I think with that statement alone we should be able to conclude that it is unethical if we come with the aim of earning.

Because when gamblers have such thoughts, it is clear that the number of attempts they make will be more frequent or more because their main focus is to get a large number of wins and of course with that, there will be more losses that make gamblers lose fun. So to minimize that from happening especially so as not to have a mistake in the point of view of gambling then we must make this activity nothing more than an activity to find entertainment when you have boring free time.
1371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is you who can't stop betting. on: December 27, 2023, 09:44:45 PM
And now that gambling sites are very easy to access by anyone, then there needs to be education and guidance for who wants to get into gambling,
not to end up becoming an addict.
true and that is another reason why it is very difficult for gamblers to stop betting because they cannot leave their cell phones and the internet, as long as they still use them they can still access gambling sites whenever they want, agree with you the need for education about gambling is very important for beginners to be able to play gambling wisely and responsibly so as not to become addicted to gambling, it should be the job of gambling sites to warn beginners about that too.
Now almost everyone is getting involved in gambling. I don't think there will be any problem for those who can choose gambling as entertainment. If someone becomes fully addicted to gambling he will face many problems. We should always be careful to gamble for too long.  Cannot be spent on gambling. If a person gets addicted to gambling, he cannot get out of gambling. Gambling is a very serious addiction, the addict will lose happiness and peace in his life.
Gambling is an attractive thing that makes us dream of winning something big but the results are mostly zero.  In gambling you will see many bad situations where you will win bets and lose almost everything and win some again and again you will lose them and think that since you are up from almost zero you will win something good on the next deposit.  This way you will keep making deposits again and again.  This is gambling addiction and it happens to almost everyone.  And because of this no one can quit gambling easily.  It happens to me too so I can't quit betting on the gambling he does

Most gamblers are fooled by the  winnings they always dream of, but it's not easy to get a win there, I'm not saying that it's 100% difficult to get a win because the fact is that anyone will have a winning situation in a certain amount but the problem is that gamblers always can't be grateful for the winnings they get and instead chase the winnings with a bigger amount with various experiments. The feeling of not being enough with the results they get is the main problem which we usually always refer to as greed,

Getting one victory at the expense of 5 defeats isn't it worth it? I admit there are situations that maybe the victory can  cover some of the defeats you have experienced but the problem is that it is very difficult to get a win with a large amount always. This is a cycle that does not know the time limit or the meaning cannot be known when it will end and certainly all of that depends on the gamblers themselves, if indeed they can never reach their consciousness then obviously they will end up losing all the money they have or even some other assets that are very large.
1372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: December 27, 2023, 08:46:08 PM

How's exactly the risk management, play for fun and larger capital can lead to win more in gambling?

Money is only a number, someone can start to gamble as low as 1 Satoshi where it worth almost nothing. Play for fun is subjective, you can't judge someone whenever they play for fun or they play for money. Risk management only make you to not lose more money instead of making more money.
The difference lies in the total number of games they can play. Those who have large capital can always have the opportunity to play longer, this indirectly increases their percentage of winning.
Unlike those who have small capital, they will be limited in the total number of games they can play because of course each game has a minimum bet.

Yes, although it is possible that these big players also use high betting values or even go all in, there are definitely not many people who are crazy about going all in in 1 playing period.

Well you said the difference is quite reasonable for both situations of a person between the rich and the poor where the strength in the amount of money is the main focus to make the difference, as you said that the rich have more money and that means they have many opportunities to experiment compared to the poor who have limited money and certainly will not have many opportunities to engage in gambling. But on the other hand I think for that problem I really can't conclude that by having a lot of opportunities then they will get more wins because obviously all of that will still depend on how lucky they are in every session they do. So for me personally I think for the problem of winning it goes back to how lucky they are if indeed they gamble on the type of gambling purely relying on luck.

On the other hand your idea does make a little sense about having many opportunities it will increase the winning percentage, I think more precisely is closer to luck because the experiments they do more often than the poor, but isn't it usually for example in 10x experiments the percentage of defeat is much more frequent than victory? and if calculated then the same level of defeat is still a lot and the same as those who have few opportunities.
1373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: December 27, 2023, 08:24:28 PM
It always starts when they couldn't control their emotions or greed, they would surely come back and risk more once they experience a huge win.
It is always the thirst that would drive someone back even if they could ruin their life, I am not just implying on gambling but also in other things as well.
Once they get the pleasure or experience something that they like, they would surely comeback for more it is always the start of addiction.

It is natural that once someone enjoys any addictive activity, he will return to it again and again. Such situations are more common in people who cannot control themselves normally and in the case of gambling, these actions are most common. When a gambler wins 1 game, he tries to win the next game. People who become addicted do not know when to take a break during this period. As a result, even if they win first, they have to lose again. If a gambler follows a good guideline of how gambling should be handled, he can avoid gambling too recklessly. There are many suggestions now available on how to manage gambling and avoid comparative losses. If a gambler understands those they can enjoy gambling immensely.

It makes sense, one of the things that makes them addicted is because there's some kind of invisible formula that makes them enjoy the gambling activity, but I think it's not just that because the main thing that causes the addiction is because of the money winnings which basically everyone wants money and they work in the real world to earn money, so of course I think that's a more reasonable reason why they get into the addiction zone. You've said that usually this situation is more common with people who can't control themselves and obviously winning becomes the main reason why it's hard for them to do some boundaries and self-control because it kind of limits their plans to pursue winning.

That's right, one win can change all their mindsets, it is usually experienced by many beginners who are still very enthusiastic and feel excessive excitement so the chances are that they think that gambling is one of the good places to earn and of course the first win is the beginning of many problems that will occur because they experiment excessively in pursuit of bigger wins. I think the problem is that the level of expectation is excessive, if only they came with the right perspective at the beginning then I think they would not have experienced something like this.
1374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 27, 2023, 07:35:12 PM
Leverkusen have done a pretty good work so far by finishing the first half in the lead. They are 4 points ahead of Bayern Munich but they should keep one thing in mind as well that Bayern Munich have one missing match. That match is against Union Berlin home as well so they would probably get 3 points in that one.

But currently Leverkusen's performance is more impressive than Bayern Munich to me anyway. Because first of all Leverkusen are still moving on without a loss. Even at Allianz Arena they didn't lose which is a great message for the league championship. I hope they keep this up during the rest of the season.  Smiley
Yes, it true that Leverkusen is more impressive at the moment, but in fact I am worried that with this too high ambition, Leverkusen could fall at any time if they make mistake because it really looks like they don't have any problems until they are unbeatable and it seems as if Bayern Munich has really been defeated by Leverkusen in about getting title in the Bundesliga.
Indeed, the current point difference is still quite close because there is Bayern Munich match that has been postponed, but even if the match is not postponed, there is no guarantee that Bayern munich will win because just look at what Bayern Munich has previously lost against Frankfurt and it could be against Union Berlin. draw or lose.
For the time being, Leverkusen is still the favorite of many people and they hope that this club can break the dominance that has lasted a decade and hopefully Leverkusen will not experience a decline in performance towards the end of the season.

Although basically as we see that Leverkusen can always maintain the top of the standings by always securing the full three points in the matches they have passed but on the other hand I think we shouldn't put too much expectation on them about the title at the end of the season, after all the season is still not finished and that means any result is still very possible, it is possible that they slipped in the next few matches when indeed the competition situation is getting tighter towards the end of the season, of course it cannot be fully predicted and there will still be possibilities.

The crushing defeat suffered by Bayern Munich in the previous few matches against Frankfurt really became the starting point for everyone's doubts even though after that they were able to restore a little confidence in their fans by winning three full points against VfB, but on the other hand it was still a bad result that they experienced which also imprinted on the confidence of the fans and made a lot of speculation arise that led to Bayern Munich's failure to defend the title this season. Overall it is true that Leverkusen have a better chance provided they can continue to maintain their consistency, but we cannot fully conclude that they will be able to break the dominance of Bayern Munich, everything is still gray.
1375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling all about luck? on: December 27, 2023, 07:14:05 PM
We can't chase luck because we don't know when it will come, and we can only gamble while enjoying every moment of loss and win that we find.
chasing luck by gamblers will only be detrimental. and that can be bad for gamblers.
those who gamble calmly will fare better than those who are too ambitious about their luck. like your statement, however, luck cannot be chased, it all comes when we don't realize it. but often when luck comes, it is considered bad for gamblers who have no control over when to leave the game.
It is very difficult if gamblers decide to chase their luck because they don't know when that luck will come. It is better for them to use gambling properly so that they don't feel difficult and can control themselves when gambling. If we care about ourselves, we should always use limits when gambling so that we can also control the use of money for gambling. And more importantly, we can prevent the desire to chase wins or recover losses and also avoid gambling addiction which has occurred in many gamblers. Having self-control in gambling can really help us enjoy gambling so that we will feel the pleasure.

True, the mindset and point of view that should not be done is the main problem in this case why they always pursue victory in their gambling activities, I am sure that people who come with such a mindset usually gamble more often because of course victory is always their  main focus, but the opposite happens where it is not the victory that comes but the defeat that continues to dominate slowly, one of the reasons is because as you said that anyone will never know when luck will come.

So maybe you have often heard some  advice that don't be too excessive in gambling and always be strict on limits, none other than all of that just to minimize something that is not wanted, firm on precautions is  much better than just thinking about winning because luck is always difficult to predict. By putting firmness on self-control and limits then at least you are a little further away from the name of addiction.

1376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any fun in losing while gambling on: December 27, 2023, 06:39:55 PM
Over the time, I’ve seen several post, by users here who, claim that gambling is strictly for fun, even when one is making losses and I’ve paused to ask this question “Is there actually any fun in gambling especially when the losses are more than the winnings?”
Let’s be frank, there are several other things one can do for fun aside gambling and I understand that life it’s own is a risk but seeing claims that people see gambling as fun even when making losses is weird and I think it’s worth discussion as to know if truly people gamble strictly for fun without minding if they’re losing or winning

Maybe it's fun when you gamble with a very tiny amount which does not affect you in case you lose it. But if you take it as a profession or something for getting a nice return or something you depend on, this will not remain fun anymore.

So yeah if you play with funds you afford to lose, if you can control your gambling, if you are not addicted to gambling, you could have some fun even during the loss. Smiley

I think that anyone should use a relatively small budget if their goal is just to have fun, although sometimes the session goes so fast when your budget is limited but I think it doesn't matter and everyone will definitely feel lucky enough to be in a situation where a small budget can be very likely to increase in size and that means your session can run for quite a long time which will also mean that there will be more fun that you find.
Making gambling a place to earn is a  dangerous mindset and point of view, after all the randomness that exists in gambling always makes it difficult for anyone to be able to get results consistently, it is too impossible except for occasional wins, and of course as you said no longer get pleasure but certainly a lot of pressure will be felt because the more often gamblers are involved the more often bad situations occur, because it is a business for casinos to profit from losing gamblers.

The approach of only using the  minimum possible funds is really recommended, because usually the inability to accept defeat when someone brings a large amount is always the main problem to fall further.

1377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many hours is the best time for a gambler to last while gambling? on: December 27, 2023, 05:53:39 PM
I think for the problem of how many hours someone will spend participating in gambling on the other hand it also depends on the time they have, if indeed they only have 3 hours outside of work and rest time then they can engage in gambling with the time they have  which certainly will not interfere with some of their other activities, especially work. But overall if we look at the risks in gambling then I think the right time to engage in gambling is at least a maximum of 2 hours a day if you want to be involved every day, that's what I always do and sometimes I spend more than an hour, not because I don't have a lot of free time but certainly the OP has also said that the longer you gamble then of course the more money you will lose (if there is no luck at all), and also the other thing that is feared is the potential to get carried away and get stuck in the addiction zone should always be a concern.

With that said, we should at least  have some precautions, one of which I think is important is to put a modest amount, or in other words an amount that you can afford to lose and only take a small amount of time to gamble, regardless of the situation try to stay firm on planning the best approach according to you and really tested.

1378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you blame someone for your gambling losses? on: December 27, 2023, 05:09:15 PM
I really don't understand why there are people who blame others for losing in their gambling involvement, if there are people like that then obviously I'm sure they come not because of their own will but it could be at the encouragement of others, especially some of their friends who have already gambled, to be honest on the other hand maybe I wouldn't fully blame you for blaming others for your defeat if indeed from the beginning the person who invited you did not say everything about gambling, especially in terms of risks that always cannot be completely avoided.

But maybe in this situation I would blame you and your friend who invited you to engage in gambling, because most likely he did not explain in detail about all the possible risks that you could experience there, and it seems that he offered by explaining some tantalizing winnings so that when you lost it was natural to blame your friend. On the other hand that is why we are better off not introducing gambling to anyone, but if you do want to invite some of your friends I suggest emphasizing more on explaining the risks because winning always depends on how lucky they are in the session they are doing, so that way you have a strong reason to argue when they blame you when you lose.
Individual gambling losses: blame others? Thats avoiding accountability. A friend may promote gambling, but the decision to participate? Thats personal. Important to realize self-accountability. Your friend's inability to disclose dangers is bad, but you're still responsible. Gambling, like any decision, requires risk awareness. Taking a friend's word at face value is risky. You should have researched.

The concept of "luck" in gambling has both positive and negative aspects. Not a strategy, but chance. Remember that gambling is risky, not guaranteed. Your friend is not responsible for your losses. Gamble for fun, but know the stakes.

Therefore, I think there should be a little agreement between the two parties, between the person who promotes and the one who gets information about gambling, try to promote to explain everything in detail, especially in terms of risk and it really needs to be emphasized, and also from those who get information I hope not to remain silent but ask a lot  of questions to friends who promote about something that is behind the victory, or the intention is to at least put a little suspicion on activities that can provide victory and ask what risks are behind it, because obviously something profitable will always have an equal or even greater level of risk and accountability is really important for everyone to have.

Yes luck is always linked to chance or  probability in gambling, there is absolutely no room for you to involve strategy unless you are betting on sports gambling that does require a little skill and strategy, but if you are betting on a type of bet that is nothing more than a complete probability of winning then you do not need to apply anything other than caution and some restrictions. Another thing is that if you are one of those people who are irresponsible or unable to accept defeat then it is better to avoid this activity.
1379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: December 27, 2023, 04:04:38 PM

We will be able to realize that there are much bigger risks there when we understand what gambling is as a whole and how it works in terms of generating wins. What is feared is as you said, instead of getting income what happens is losing money slowly, and "slowly" is what not many gamblers realize who come with the wrong mindset, maybe you understand what is meant "little by little over time it will become a hill" that is the scenario carried out by the casino to take advantage of the gamblers' losses. Of course, the inability to accept defeat will be the starting point for real problems to begin, chasing defeat to reach the break-even point is an action that is not unusual for them to do. In fact, it is difficult to be firm in applying prudence if the motivation for the hope of victory is greater than the precautionary measures, which of course usually means regret stems from such situations.

Therefore, instead of letting everything go to waste,  especially letting money just disappear, I think looking for encouragement for awareness is very important,  learning from the experiences of other people who are addicted and mired in many problems can be done to increase awareness. After that I think you will be able to think realistically and look for another job that is more profitable.

Actually its not really that hard to understand if you are really just that sensible on what you are doing. You cant really just that make yourself not be able to think about the danger on playing gambling on which it is really just that too impossible that you cant really be able to make yourself that not be able to notice on what are those dangers and what are those risks involved when it comes to gambling. If you do find yourself that not be able to control towards your emotions then the problem would really be that starting from you and you should really be getting rid of gambling if thats on the case because sooner or later you would really be molding up yourself to be an addicted person because there are people who cant really be able to control themselves and really that becoming that impulsive on the things that they've been dealing.

There are those individuals who do really fail on controlling themselves on gambling and  this is why they do really ends up on a disaster just because they had made out that wrong decisions into things.
If you wont really be that careful and mindful on the things you've been dealing then you are really that prone into those possible situations that might mess up things along the way.

But the fact of the matter is, isn't the realization of mistakes made really difficult to achieve by most gamblers, especially those with wrong goals? Excessive expectations make gamblers really trapped in a cycle of addiction that is in the subconscious as a result of excessive expectations which of course makes it difficult for them to be able to realize about the mistakes that have been / are being made, maybe on the other hand I would say that they are already quite late to take some precautions if they are already in a situation like this, because it is so difficult to restore awareness that is the main problem, which is why we have to be really careful from the beginning in gambling involvement, all actions must be taken from the beginning and not at the middle stage or even at the end.

So maybe in my opinion they are just waiting for a situation where they really experience a very bad impact in their involvement which of course can make them feel traumatized because usually trauma can at least make their consciousness return even if only a little maybe. All precautions should be instilled and familiarized from the beginning of the involvement when you are new or a beginner.
1380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lack of proper knowledge on casino games increases chance of loss and reduce fun on: December 27, 2023, 03:44:42 PM
I think people want to try something new to increase their chance of winning. Some people are stuck with sports games all their life and has been betting but they have never win a huge money to actually tell people about their gambling experience but the problem is casinos don't have a trial or demo for those games and because we don't have such kind of games in our environment make it difficult to win this games. In places like Asia, literally this games are what they play everytime and they don't even like sports like we do here.
You can’t win them all, my friend. There is a higher chance of winning in sports betting than on slots and virtual games. Your winning percentage depends on 70% analysis and 30% luck. I don’t understand what you mean by casinos don’t have a trial or demo mode for games. Most do. If you’re playing on a casino that doesn’t have one especially for new games, then you should try playing on another casino.

Overall it is true that sports betting has a much higher percentage rate compared to some other types of gambling such as the slots you mentioned, but I say that the winning percentage will be closer when you really have very good skills and knowledge in the field of sports which of course can make you superior to others, but even like that isn't there still some people who are even professionals who still end up losing? Of course, no matter how skilled you are at sports knowledge, the final result will not always be what you want, as you said that 30% of it is luck and that's obvious.

Luck is one of the things that is still quite important in gambling regardless of the place, in sports itself it is not an unusual situation when one very strong team can lose to a weak team, which is why the main focus in our point of view must assume that this activity is nothing more than just profit - profit only. Perhaps what this means is that sports betting doesn't have a demo mode, making it difficult to practice.
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