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1701  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 29, 2023, 06:53:27 PM
There is still a lot of doubt about Manchester United whether they can win today's match. We have seen them do very poorly in the group stages this season where they have won just one match. Today, Manchester United will be able to qualify against their opponents Galatasaray. Manchester United are still at the bottom of the points table, as they are currently below Kobenhovn, who can change their position if they win today's match. However, if Manchester United can get a win at the opposition's home ground, they might have a great chance. And I think today will definitely be an aggressive game between the two teams and Manchester United has a chance to win, and today's match is important for both teams and everyone will give enough effort.
Winning in the first half is enough to give some insight but Erik Ten Hag struggle is still not over because in the second half Galatasaray definitely put more emphasis on full attack. Garnacho who is on fire, is very profitable he is able to create movements on his own initiative even though he seems reckless, one of the players must have the courage to break through.  I wish Ten Hag would have introduced Martial in the second half and given him the same chance of creating a goal.
1702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 29, 2023, 06:40:37 PM
If Ancelotti somehow gets to United, that would be all problems solved for United without a doubt. He is not called Don for a reason, that dude is serious about playing time, you can be the greatest player ever, and if you do not show up and play with your 100% then you will not get any start, maybe even be out of the bench. Ancelotti could manage PSG tomorrow, and if Mbappe doesn't care in the game or training, he could literally bench him, this dude is too much focused on playing the players who will contribute the most and will work the most, it is not just about talent for him.
In my opinion if Ancelotti becomes Man United coach it does not guarantee that the problems facing the club will be resolved. The reason is simple because Ancelotti at Real Madrid is fully supported by Florentino in all aspects, which is a strong reason why Ancelotti was able to take Madrid to the highest peak. Now back to Man United, imagine Ancelotti asking for a budget to bring in expensive players but Glazer refuses and instead tells Ancelotti to use the available players. We have to be realistic, I know Ancelotti is a professional coach and has proven success. However, all of this cannot be separated from adequate financial support. Without adequate funds no matter how good a coach is at gathering players it will be difficult because creating an ideal strategy requires fulfilling what the coach needs.
1703  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: November 29, 2023, 06:02:27 PM

Now, compare your behavior with your parents' different behavior. There must be differences, whether it's worse or better... the key point is the differences in your attitudes (between the child and the parent). Even though no one guarantees this possibility, gambling in front of kids is still not a positive idea. Don't you have a better goal than doing that in front of your child? There are plenty of other more beneficial activities, like putting together a puzzle or maybe assembling a bike.

At a start in the life of kids, they need to learn things that are positive first and when they get to certain age they socialize themselves into other things but by then they are already knowledgeable on the good ones and when they meet the other side, they know what choice to make, instead having the negative side as the only avenue to learning.

Some fathers gamble and smoke in the presence of the children and that gives the children the impression that it is okay to do that. I believe even in countries where gambling is legal, there is still age limit to start gambling so they don't need to learn it earlier than the age because they will tend to start gambling earlier when they have not mentally mature for it and can gamble away their school fees.

In addition, with today's technology where most people cannot be far from the gadgets they own so gambling advertises all over the internet and this also makes it easier for them to find out about gambling if they can already socialize with many people, also when they grow up they have the right to choose something that they think is good for themselves, even with gambling which is not a good thing they can just do it because they follow the current technological developments. They will also do it and try their luck because of curiosity, curiosity in adult children is very large, there are many things they want to know so they will do what they want.
With the development of technology at this time, gambling can be done by anyone regardless of age, unlike gambling in casinos which of course has rules against age limits, but online gambling does not require that, parental supervision of their children will disappear when they grow up because they will have their own thoughts and decide everything around them.
1704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling game is not good and everyone should stay away from it on: November 29, 2023, 05:42:18 PM
Everyone stay away from gambling game then you all will be happy and happy Gambling game is very bad which will harm your family a lot and will also harm your life like my father gambling ruined my father's life and also my future is dark now I am now  I came back to this bitcoin to find light in my life in this darkness you all help me shine.

Not everyone has responses and thoughts like you even though what you say is true, but those who experience it are gamblers who are addicted and have no responsibility because responsible gambler can choose which ones should be priorities, such as family.
We are here to have fun and we know what to do to avoid all these bad effects, even though not everything is possible, at least there are gamblers who can have good awareness in their approach to gambling.
I sure that gambler who still has or can become responsible gambler will never be willing to experience financial, family and mental ruin so you don't need to worry too much about this problem.
After all, it all depends on the gambler himself to be able to experience the negative effects of gambling and not all gamblers always experience bad effects.

That's true because not all gamblers are out of control. So if you or anyone decides to gamble, we all hope that the gambler knows the risks and is ready financially and mentally.
I think almost all gamblers experience the problem of gambling addiction. but what makes the difference is the control and commitment of the gambler himself. Gamblers must be aware of the limits of their abilities. including their financial capabilities. So if you are not financially strong, it is better not to seek luck in gambling.

They should be prepared for the risks involved, because the only ones who feel it are themselves and not others. Because the financial risk is the main one, not to mention the mentality that will be affected by gambling. Most of them do not think about their financial capabilities so they always force themselves to continue gambling by not thinking about their limited financial situation, they do many things to be able to return to gambling including borrowing capital, of course this is wrong, by borrowing capital for gambling this will only complicate their financial situation. They should be able to avoid this to not increase their financial problems. They must immediately realize that what they are doing is wrong and to leave gambling, especially for those who are already addicted, it will be difficult to leave this habit, actually there are many ways to leave gambling or addiction, but it all depends on themselves to determine whether they really want to stop gambling or just nonsense.
1705  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: November 29, 2023, 05:24:12 PM
At least by telling other people about the problems they are facing it can make them feel relieved, and they can find a solution because by meeting other people, someone who is addicted might be able to get ideas for reducing their gambling addiction. Perhaps he has not been able to cure his gambling addiction. However, he has ideas that can help him to reduce the level of his gambling addiction, and it is really necessary to try so that he can see how far he can reduce the level of his gambling addiction. Indeed, it will have an impact on his life, but by knowing that there is a solution he can get from sharing with others about his problem, he can see that he can actually still reduce the level of his gambling addiction with help from other people.
But it is difficult to open the insight and mind of someone who is addicted to gambling, especially those who have been gambling for a long time, because they need to realize the mistakes they have made, admit them, and try to reduce and cure them. With help from other people, they can get something useful so they can try to reduce the level of their gambling addiction.

To be precise, their knowledge is not broad so they cannot realize what they are doing is wrong. The only factor that can make them realize is that they themselves do not think about the losses they have experienced, as well as the many solutions they can do to stop gambling, but it is difficult for them to realize so they cannot accept that gambling must be abandoned. Not to mention if they have a stubborn nature, I think it will be very difficult to make them realize.

People who have been gambling for a long time will find it difficult to open new thoughts, because they will only think about the winnings they will get, even though it will not guarantee them to be able to change their lives nor will it make their lives easier in the future, maybe some people have luck in gambling so that they can get big wins that can change their lives, but people's luck is different. So it should be able to think about this that maybe this will make them realize not to do excessive gambling.
1706  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling are mainly for rich and lucky mind. on: November 29, 2023, 05:01:30 PM
I dislike that thought, but it's true.

For most poor people, they are not advised to do gambling... because is an expensive pleasure that shouldn't become a habit due to its low priority on our life. Instead of gambling, better for them to improve their economy by managing their finances wisely. This way, they can have the opportunity to build a business and generate more income. Rather than gambling, it's better to invest in high protein and nutritious food for their healthy.

For rich mans with multiple income sources, set aside some money for gambling is never a problem. They might need it for peace of mind after hectic activities or crucial decision making. The rich man of the affluent regenerates at a higher rate than that of the poor, which is why gambling is still considered a minor concern for the rich.

The number of people who gamble does not look at anyone, as long as they have the desire then they will do it even if they are poor, but it is true like that, those who have money restrictions or poor should not force themselves to gamble, because it can make it difficult for them in the future such as complicating their economy as well as their main finances,  you are right they have the opportunity to open a business if they can manage their finances well by not doing excessive gambling.

For rich people who gamble, chances are they are not chasing victory, they gamble mostly just for fun because they know that gambling is just fun in the form of paid games so they are not chasing victory. The great thing is, the rich don't think about the losses they experience, they don't get upset and maybe you're right, it's not a big deal for the rich.
1707  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: November 29, 2023, 04:41:43 PM
~snip~
It's what you should do when gambling and also on the other hand it's the only action you can take if you don't want to experience a lot of problems or downturns as a result of the gambling you do. Having full responsibility for whatever happens will be very useful for results that will not make you disappointed or that means if you are a responsible gambler then from the beginning you have agreed with yourself for whatever the result is, especially defeat you will be able to accept it and also besides that the benefits of having responsibility then I think you will not act out of control, because usually out of control behavior will arise when you cannot accept the results of defeat.

I think for people who lose responsibility it's because they can't be strict in setting their boundaries so over time they get carried away unconsciously and end up experiencing emotions that make them behave out of control. Of course, all of this negligence occurs because they cannot resist all the temptations that look tempting when in fact it is just a trap from the casino so that you keep playing and end up losing like other gamblers. Good responsibility and understanding the correct concept of luck will make your interest less significant in seeing the chances of winning, with that then I think you will have no trouble implementing prevention.
Indeed, that is what we should do to be responsible while we are gambling and to reduce a large number of losses because many people have experienced this, and we have to prevent it from happening to us. Practising responsibility is a must for all gamblers so that we can reduce the risk of losing money and also have better self-control. We don't need to follow other people's bad experiences because we don't want to experience them and can study other people's experiences to avoid them. By being responsible gamblers, we continue to learn to use the limits we set to keep us from gambling excessively so that we can enjoy gambling well.

People who lose responsibility will experience a lot of losses and maybe in a row because they cannot control themselves and their emotions, which makes them even more eager to gamble and to win some money. Actually, if they have won, they can leave gambling by withdrawing their money and resting for some time. But the reality is that they forget about that and instead continue gambling while hoping that the next round will be another big win for them. But that's a dream that won't come true that day because all the money has been used without giving any winnings.

Yes, although being responsible for gambling is difficult to do, but they should have done it because then they will not experience many losses that everyone does not want to happen. Other people's bad experiences do not need to be followed but enough to be used as lessons for us to apply so that we can avoid it, so that it can also minimize the risks involved in gambling. And it should be gambling responsibly without giving up many more useful things by not gambling excessively is one of the responsible things.
Yes that's right, there will be many things that he forgot and also harmed themselves. What I wonder is that most of those who gamble irresponsibly do not think about the losses that have occurred, so they continue to gamble even though they lose and lose. I appreciate the enthusiasm they have, but this enthusiasm they have, can harm them themselves. Excessive expectations that make them chase big wins that are not obtained even difficult. So the fault lies with themselves not with the gambling.
1708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I learnt from a crackhead about gambling on: November 29, 2023, 09:02:38 AM
~ Any addiction will definitely have a negative effect on the mind and health. Even though the effects will definitely be different, we will still feel different effects. We don't know which is more dangerous, gambling addiction or drug addiction, because we try to avoid all addictions, especially gambling addiction. Moreover, we often gamble so there is a possibility that we may experience a gambling addiction. But if an addict can cure himself, that is something that needs to be appreciated because to be able to heal himself requires a lot of hard work and belief that he can heal himself.

Drug addiction is definitely more dangerous. Why? Because gambling makes you put your money at stake, while when you take drugs it's your health is what at stake, and you will surely lose in the long run, it's not like with gambling. People say that with gambling you will surely lose all your money in the long run. That's not true. And that you are guaranteed to lose at least something is not true either. There are gamblers that are in profit from their gambling activities. A small portion, yes, but they exist. But no one is "in profit" from drug usage. Gambling addiction is a terrible disease, but it's more easily cured than drug addiction.

That's true, but I would like to add a little bit, drug addiction or gambling is just as detrimental, both of these things have adverse effects and are also dangerous. First, both of these things involve money which is an important role, both of these things cannot be done if there is no money in drugs as far as I know "there is money, there is goods". And in gambling "there is money, there is a game" that's what I know. And secondly, addiction to gambling or drugs will harm their health sooner or later their health will be damaged because they are always concerned with their addiction, that way they will damage their health, for example drugs are obvious if addicted to this one thing health is at stake, drugs can damage thinking, depression, anxiety, and severe mental disorders. Gambling addiction will damage health, relationships, attitudes, mindsets can also lead to mental disorders as well as drugs, there is nothing good in these two things if they have entered addiction. It would be nice to gamble just for fun, avoid addiction and also avoid things that trigger addiction. As for drugs, I think it's better not to be rash.
1709  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: November 29, 2023, 08:36:10 AM
And that's where it goes wrong, with limited income but they still insist on continuing to gamble by aiming for big wins, they are not aware of the true meaning of gambling, if only they could realize that gambling is just for fun based on games, maybe they wouldn't have lost so much, It is important to have boundaries and a good mindset because of this, those who chase the victory unknowingly have lost a lot of money, may not have a good mindset and do not have boundaries in gambling, so they can spend a lot of money to gamble with the big wins they pursue. Right what you said, I think they are better off opening their own casino that will generate a lot of profit for themselves, but how to open a casino? they just gamble with the aim of getting a big win in the sense that they need a lot of money and that means they don't have a lot of money, if that's like that how can they open their own casino? just gambling with the aim of making money. Maybe they have to wait until they get a big win or what is called a jackpot, then they can put shares or open the casino they want. Quite impossible, but there's no harm in hoping hahaha.
If they could think clearly that gambling was just for fun, they would not try harder to try to win the game. In fact, they will increasingly try to limit their gambling activities because they do not want to experience more losses. Moreover, they will also find it difficult to win gambling games, let alone make gambling a permanent income. Fixed income means they can get income every week or month, which we already know is very difficult to get. We can't always win from gambling but we can easily experience defeat. Therefore, we should not use gambling as a job, let alone want to generate income because we will experience difficulties. And we should also limit our gambling activities so as not to lose more money. People who do not limit their gambling activities will only experience bigger losses than other gamblers, so we should not experience that.

By gambling for the purpose of seeking pleasure you can also avoid big losses in my opinion. Because if the goal is like that, they will not experience greed, irritation, revenge which could cause them to suffer losses later. It's not a bad thing if they gamble with the aim of looking for fun, because that's why they shouldn't use gambling as a permanent income to make a profit if that's not recommended, as many say, gambling is entertainment in the form of games that pay if they want to make a profit. they better work.
Benefits in gambling do exist but it cannot be guaranteed that they will be easy to get, and many people still misunderstand gambling so that they continue to chase losses by spending a lot of their money and savings. If he is stubborn, it will be difficult to wake him up.
So in my opinion, it's better to just leave it alone and let him do what he likes as long as it doesn't harm other people, but if it harms other people, it's better if we urge that person to realize that what they're doing is wrong.
1710  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: November 29, 2023, 08:15:53 AM
That's what I mean, as much as possible we should be able to control greed that will make everything a mess, by controlling greed it can avoid losses that will come later, for example when getting a win immediately it might be better to cash it in, not following the ego that leads to continue the game, that way we can be said to have good self-control because we can cash in on the winnings we get and we can also fight the greed. It is difficult but there is no harm, because it can also have a good impact on us. If gambling continues by always following the ego that leads to greed like that there will be no end, but will only make us go deeper with the amount of money lost due to gambling. So as much as possible must have limits when gambling because all of that we ourselves have full control.
Also self-control that must be owned and strengthened more, because it also has an important role in gambling that can make us limit existing gambling, especially when getting a win. When getting a win, of course, control plays a very big role, because if you don't have strong self-control, you can lose the winnings you have gotten again because you bet it again, and that must be avoided, how? one of them is by having strong self-control, because it can limit us when gambling and it can also save us from the risk of big losses.
What you say is correct because by winning, it means that we are luckier than other gamblers and must immediately stop gambling and cash out and not decide to continue gambling. This is to avoid greed, which can become greater because there will definitely be a desire that tells us to continue gambling without taking a break. None of this would happen if we had good self-control because we could restrain ourselves from continuing to gamble. We should also know about it, especially since we have experienced and had that experience before. So before it's too late, we should immediately decide to stop gambling and leaving the casino is the best choice we can to avoid big losses by continuing to gamble again. Many gamblers have decided to continue gambling after winning. But the results were unexpected because many of them ended up losing very big and even having to spend all their winnings. That's the point if we have good self-control so that we won't be tempted by everything in the casino and can prevent ourselves from spending the winnings. We still have plenty of time to gamble again another day so we need to rest after winning or losing so that we won't be triggered to continue gambling.

It would be better for all gamblers to be able to do so, by cashing in the winnings they have earned, not by continuing the game because of greed and wanting a bigger win, it is possible that they will lose, even it is certain that they will experience things they do not want, such as losing, it may make them annoyed in the end and regret it. When we win, there must be a feeling of greed that drives us to continue the game. This will definitely happen and be felt by the person who wins, but the control lies with each of us. How we respond to the winnings we have gotten, if we continue to play means we follow our ego, if we immediately cash out means we can fight the greed that is inside us. But it's good to fight greed, because greed can make us lose the winnings we have earned. By cashing out the winnings you've earned and going away to enjoy the winnings you've earned, then you can come back one day to continue playing. They can do that if they can fight their greed well so that they won't have unwanted losses. So in my opinion, they should cash out the winnings they have earned, not continuing the game would be better.
1711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: November 29, 2023, 07:52:25 AM
Indeed. There are many factors affecting the outcome of a play. For instance, in sportsbetting, it's mostly reliant to skills and knowledge. It's essential that you are updated with the current happenings about the player and the team itself in general. Having a background knowledge about the team record will be beneficial as well to know which has the higher odds of winning based on their track records. Although yes, luck still does play a part in sportsbetting because at the last minute, tables can turn. So it's important to at least consider shocking turns happening the last part or when you least expect it. But of course, still base most of your assessment on your knowledge and information at hand. 

I guess it will just know depends on the perspective whether it's a lucky or bad day. After all, it varies. If you want to make profit, losing is really terrible. But you can always do better next time around. Just remember to not be too greedy.
Specific games would be having that specific factors on which it could affect out winning results, if we do speak about to those luck based games then this is something that
we cant really be able to tell since everything is random but if we do speak about sports betting then factors known will really be giving out that kind of effect.
Speaking about gambling learning in terms of behavior and other similar aspects then it would be entirely be depending since not all would really be that too
mindful about gambling effects.

Usually people would be able to learn up something on the time that they are experiencing bad things, but before those things to happen then they wont really be showing
any care or totally that too careless on making decisions and actions just because you do let greed and emotions do control you.
This is why we should really be that careful.

Basically gambling also does have a random system, which will not fully guarantee victory. And there are also many factors that can be done to avoid the risk of loss, because the chances of winning are smaller than the chances of losing, that's a fact. It is true that you say not all people who gamble pay attention to the effects of gambling, which is where the losses that have been experienced also sometimes they just let it go without thinking about it so they just keep gambling and gambling.
Most of them also can't fight the greed that controls them so they only focus on chasing wins, while they have experienced many losses that are detrimental to themselves. Not being able to control themselves, their ego, and emotions can make them fall deeper into gambling that will harm them.
1712  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: November 29, 2023, 07:32:07 AM
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maybe they should work as staff in gambling maybe that can help them to be successful even by being staff in a gambling company. I think that to succeed just as a player is very difficult, there is a chance maybe but not big, it all comes back to their luck that will give them the victory. And they should not gamble until they spend their money let alone spend their savings.

A gambling career will not be achievable for everyone, but if you work as a gambling company staff member, you have the potential for a sustainable career. There are many positions that can be chosen for a career in a gambling company, but if you have a career by being an active gambler, I'm not sure whether that can be called a career or just a gambler. Maybe the only option is to become an affiliate. Moreover, if he becomes an active gambler, I think this is not a career, considering that there is a possibility that he will not get any income.

As I said before "Maybe" they can be successful with gambling if they become staff at a gambling company, that's possible I'm not sure. Because everyone has their own luck and luck is different, not everyone has luck only in gambling, it could be that they have luck outside of gambling such as in work or in their hobbies that can bring in income. All depends on their own luck.

Yes because it should be like that, if they do not spend money or deposit money in gambling, they will not be able to gamble, because money is the main role in gambling, there is money they can play but if there is no money they will not be able to play simple like that. They will not be able to succeed from gambling which is just an entertainment in the form of a game, therefore it is impossible to succeed because it is not a job like in general, right what you said, if they want to succeed by involving gambling, maybe they should work as staff in gambling maybe that can help them to be successful even by being staff in a gambling company. I think that to succeed just as a player is very difficult, there is a chance maybe but not big, it all comes back to their luck that will give them the victory. And they should not gamble until they spend their money let alone spend their savings.
Instead of spending money on gambling to make money, it is better for them to just look for a job where they can make more money and spend less money even though the money will be used to meet their living needs later. But by working, they can earn money and will not become addicted to gambling, which can endanger their lives, let alone spending all the money and valuables in their house. It would not be worth it for many people to gamble because it is by gambling that they will lose more money without being able to hope to make any money. Getting success from gambling or making a career from gambling will not be as easy as they imagine because they have to gamble before they can make money but that doesn't guarantee they can make money. That is why it would not be advisable to make money from gambling or make a career out of gambling. Moreover, we have seen many people lose a lot of money when they were gambling.

Yes that's right, there must be daily needs where they have to meet those needs, if they still want to gamble I think they can limit their budget for gambling, so they don't gamble excessively. Because if luck is on their side they can get a win even if they play only occasionally, rather than continuing to play often to pursue victory but luck is not on their side it will only spend their money. It will not be easy to succeed by gambling, it is better to play reasonably and when they are lucky to get a win it can make them open a business or start a business and then they have to pursue success from the business they have. Do not force yourself to gamble by chasing victory, it is very unnatural.
1713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: November 28, 2023, 10:32:30 PM
It will only trap yourself for many new problems to come, you must be true of many gamblers who experience downturns, they experience a lot of tremendous pressure because they are too excessive and make loans as the best alternative when they run out of money to gamble. If you do run out of money to gamble then it is better to allocate your activities to other activities that are quite fun but have no risk. Another thing I suggest if you really want to gamble, it's better to put a small budget, meaning a budget that you can be responsible for the final result so that you are not disappointed and not emotional when indeed in that session you really lose.

Do not even think about borrowing just to gamble, after all gambling is only an activity that relies on luck, and that means you should not try hard to make money just to gamble, because there is no certainty for you or anyone to win, and usually what happens more often is defeat.
1714  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slot games are a waste of time and money (most of the time) on: November 28, 2023, 09:40:34 PM
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I continued playing slot with the $16, and soon, I had up to $55 in total amount won, I was really happy and hopeful that before I did lose all $55, I would have won much to enable me complete the wager requirement and possibly walk out in profit.

But unfortunately, I ended up losing the entire $55 dollar while I still had about $582 dollar in wager requirement, I am not confident enough to deposit and continue chasing, so I'm giving up.

I've never been lucky with slot games, never, and I am not pleased about it to be honest.
What about you?
I had also played slot games many time and end up in loses. I think that is how the game was programmed, you can't win the house and go like that. In every win, you might have about 10 loses. Most time which I played slot games, anytime I won, I think I would have lost multiple times. Tye house has high rate winning compared to our individual self that could be in the haste to make money as a gambler. We need to study how the slot game works and how it was programmed to work. Gambling is a big risk for us if we don't look for something better to play to increase our tendency of winning.

The game is a game that really purely depends on your luck at that time, it is very difficult to go home with a win if you don't have or are less assertive in controlling yourself, when we have won any amount it is better to just withdraw in my opinion, I am also always like that when gambling on slots, because the change in luck there is very fast, maybe only a matter of minutes that initially you are lucky then the round will suddenly become very bad. I think lately a lot of people have lost a lot from this game but strangely there are still very many who prefer that type of game compared to others.

Random wins in slots are too difficult to conquer and it's very emotionally provoking, it seems like the game is set up with a very low winning percentage rate for gamblers, like you experienced and I also experienced the same thing where I had to sacrifice several losses just to get one win, it's very difficult to understand the slot algorithm. So I urge you to be more careful and strict in terms of setting some boundaries and self-control before you regret it.
1715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 28, 2023, 08:32:25 PM
Lazio is leading and have definitely sealed their spot in the round of sixteen, they had no goals in the first half of the game up until the second half and for a moment I taught they me have less then two goals because it was taking longer than expected to score goals.

Lazio is dominating with possession of the ball and more attempts than their opponent, they have the home advantage and are using it well to their advantage, Celtic doesn't seem like they have still got a chance with the champions league as they have just one point and are at the bottom of the group, with this loss against Lazio today, it's most definite they will crash out of the champions league at group stage.

This is their penultimate game in the UCL before qualifying for the group stage, and yes as we can see they are first in group E with 10 points and that means they already have a ticket to qualify for the group stage. Lazio's gap with Atletico is very slim at just one point and now Atletico are playing against Feyenoord and if they win against Feyenoord then Lazio's position will be displaced from first place, but it doesn't matter because they will still qualify in the preliminaries.

It's clear that Lazio have more depth than Celtic, I think it's a pretty easy game for Lazio because as we've seen how Celtic are doing, in the last five games they've barely won at all. Of course I think now there is nothing more that Celtic can expect, they are performing poorly and must accept the fact that they will not be able to continue to the next group phase.
1716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling are mainly for rich and lucky mind. on: November 28, 2023, 07:12:25 PM
It is obvious that no good thing that come easy and when you are not lucky in gambling you are not lucky and a lucky person in everything he tries might still be a lucky person on gambling because i dont see what you know you do consistently and is not favourable to you yet you are still in it, that is stupidity to a reasonable man and even if your taking it to be for funs but definitely you are spending carelessly on it and truly the mindset of a gambler is to get not to loose and on a casino game a real gambler must wisely have a plan and adhere on rules to actualize it target and rich gamblers stake high in a low game which is possible to win but does not get addicted  because he analyse and strategize before staking so if it is not favourable to you does not mean is not favourable to some lucky persons and these are the mindset of rich person(mind)not of the poor person (mind).

OP, I agree with you that gambling is a luck game but the strategies you mentioned are not certain to occur, gambling is not a game that someone can say that he or she knows it all be it casino or any other game, no matter the approach you take in gambling when you want to lose you will lose woefully, is only a greedy gambler that does not understand that gambling is a two ways stuff is either you lose or you win, having in mind that you will win in something that you are not sure of, will amount to foolishness, people can be luck in other things but when it comes to gambling they find it difficult to win just a stake, gambling can be misleading and is not something your can be proud of despite how you see it, I disagree with you that gambling is only for the rich, gambling is for everyone that finds it interesting such person has to take whatever he or she sees on the way.

Because gambling is a luck-based game that will determine whether the final result will be in accordance with what you want or not, therefore I will not believe in some ways such as strategies that they always say that it can increase the chances of victory or luck, one of the reasons that makes sense is as I said above that this is just a luck-based game, so with that alone can be concluded that whatever method you use it will not fully affect, I have tried several times like that and still the results are disappointing.

So the point is just play as you like, don't race too much with some methods like others because obviously even if you gamble carelessly if you are lucky then you will also win. For those who always act greedy on the other hand I am sure that they are addicted, their mindset is different and not in line with healthy people in general, they always overthink, as you said maybe they don't know that gambling is about winning and losing and what will determine victory is only luck, while on the other hand whoever it is will never know when they are lucky. So what's your excuse for acting greedy after reading this? Won't that just make you worse off for losing? All of this is nothing more than a game.
1717  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: November 28, 2023, 06:32:18 PM
Having that knowledge and having the right mindset when you are already inside gives you the chance to stay or to keep your composure,  as knowing the risk and still continuing your participation will give you lesser chances of becoming addicted,  if you know and understand everything,  you can control and be responsible enough to avoid addiction.
We know the basic fundamentals of the system, some of us derived joy in ruining our plans unexpectedly, when we continue to gamble without any plans for proper entry, just triggering positions because we just wany to win, we forgets that there's existence of serious hardwork, because we're easily moved by what we see, talking about what we see, I mean we're more open to gambling and it consumed the higher portions of our activities and mind. There are numerous tips to stay on the lane of been a responsible gambler in the system. We're not here to make accounts for losses, rather we're here to milk the system.
However, we must be able to be responsible and control ourselves while gambling so that we don't get addicted. Many people have lost their responsibilities while gambling until they end up gambling too often and not controlling themselves. It was a big mistake for them because they didn't remember what their purpose was in gambling and what they had to be able to gamble safely. Yes, we are easily moved and tempted by what we see, but if we have responsibility, self-control, and so on, we can definitely take good care of ourselves. We can also prevent ourselves from gambling excessively.

It's what you should do when gambling and also on the other hand it's the only action you can take if you don't want to experience a lot of problems or downturns as a result of the gambling you do. Having full responsibility for whatever happens will be very useful for results that will not make you disappointed or that means if you are a responsible gambler then from the beginning you have agreed with yourself for whatever the result is, especially defeat you will be able to accept it and also besides that the benefits of having responsibility then I think you will not act out of control, because usually out of control behavior will arise when you cannot accept the results of defeat.

I think for people who lose responsibility it's because they can't be strict in setting their boundaries so over time they get carried away unconsciously and end up experiencing emotions that make them behave out of control. Of course, all of this negligence occurs because they cannot resist all the temptations that look tempting when in fact it is just a trap from the casino so that you keep playing and end up losing like other gamblers. Good responsibility and understanding the correct concept of luck will make your interest less significant in seeing the chances of winning, with that then I think you will have no trouble implementing prevention.
1718  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: November 28, 2023, 12:39:30 PM
That is a story that should be an example for people on this forum, thank you for sharing your story here because the lesson from this story certainly attracts the attention of all of us to play responsibly and wisely so that we don't get addicted to gambling, as you said, you have consciously make mistakes and casinos will never be wrong because they prepare games for entertainment but it seems like you are playing too seriously.

I know that it is difficult to recover losses, sometimes there are those who succeed and there are also those who fail, but those who succeed are definitely not many of those who fail, that's why never chase and recover losses, let alone losses in gambling, don't always bet all the money It is hoped that you will win, because in gambling there is always a risk of loss and defeat, I hope this will be a lesson for all of us to gamble with money that we are ready to lose and not try to borrow money to gamble.
 
yes that's right, addicted gamblers should immediately realize what they are doing is wrong, especially if they have borrowed money for gambling capital I hope they can stop gambling which will make them feel addicted continuously, don't let their lives get into debt because for gambling this is not recommended. As much as possible if they really want to gamble they should use the remaining money or more money than they have, that way they will not borrow from others which of course this can harm others because most gamblers who borrow money for gambling find it difficult to return it or pay it off.
Borrowing money will only make them difficult in the future, with heavy addiction plus a lot of debt, it will make their lives not calm, where their daily lives will feel anxiety. because of the desire to gamble and also the debt that will haunt them every step of the way. So if they still want to gamble, please avoid this one thing.
1719  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: November 28, 2023, 12:08:55 PM
It's true that you said that gambling as a hobby is a big mistake, but if it's for people who have unlimited and endless money income, it doesn't matter, I see many old people in casinos who play gambling even though they are a hobby. old but they still gamble not to mention the women who accompany them and also the bodyguards they have. This makes them have untold wealth or endless income, so they can still gamble even though they are old and even though they have physical limitations such as disabilities because there are also those who gamble using wheelchairs. It is possible that they do gambling in their old age because that is the only pleasure they have in gambling and that is the only place they can get pleasure, this cannot be denied because everyone has their own rights. It's just that what's wrong is people who have limited money but still insist on continuing to gamble. Rich people who gamble until old age tend to only seek pleasure not victory, in contrast to people who have limited money, they gamble by pursuing victory, while victory is difficult to obtain, if you are unlucky you still won't get what you want. And that will only make them addicted.

And to cure that addiction is a difficult thing to do just like self-control, easy to say but difficult to do. Not to mention if they have a stubborn nature, it will be very difficult to give advice to them because people who have a stubborn nature and are addicted to gambling may rebel or fight when advised because they cannot accept themselves being advised. The most important way is to give lessons or whatever it is that will make them aware of themselves, if they still can't then they themselves have to feel something that can make them aware, it sounds difficult if someone else makes them aware, but it's the same as those who have to make themselves aware. So they will not easily get their consciousness just like that, maybe it needs other people like family who have to make them aware, or their own wives if they are married maybe that can help make them aware even though it sounds difficult but I think it can be done, because effort will not betray the results if it is for a good thing there is nothing wrong with trying it. and in my opinion they need to be accompanied for the healing process so that they can be more enthusiastic about getting well. Actually, there are many things that can be done to awaken those who are addicted to gambling, one of which is to provide firm behavior, there must be people who dare to order them to leave their addiction habits, with firm behavior it might help them leave their addiction habits.
It's okay to make gambling a hobby but we have to remember that it can only be done by people who have unlimited income, as you said. Meanwhile, there are still many people who don't even have a fixed income but still often gamble because they have the hope of being able to win at gambling one day. This hope is what makes them continue to gamble using money they get from anywhere because this hope becomes even greater when they win some money. But if they still can't change their mindset, they will only experience defeat, which will probably get bigger until they can't control it. That is why we can only use gambling as entertainment and not use it as a place to make money, let alone make it a permanent income. Many people have tried it and they only failed when they were unable to generate income from gambling. If they want to make gambling a place to earn a steady income, they are better off creating their own casino and doing promotions because that will bring them an income that will be even greater if their casino becomes more popular.

Those who continue to try to use gambling as a place to earn a steady income will only become addicted to gambling, which will become even worse because they have lost control of themselves in the first moments of their introduction to gambling. And when they are addicted to gambling, this ultimately makes it difficult for them to cure it, especially if their gambling addiction has become worse because they will just refuse to admit that they are addicted to gambling. Indeed, people who are addicted to gambling will not easily realize that they have a gambling addiction and even though people around them have warned them and told them the truth about their gambling addiction, they will not want to admit it. If people around him never give up on always reminding him about his gambling addiction, there will be a moment that can make him realize that he is already addicted to gambling. He will ask the people around him to help him immediately before he becomes addicted to gambling. Even worse. This will be a way to try to cure people who are addicted to gambling by taking them to an expert or psychiatrist so that they can get better treatment for curing their gambling addiction.

And that's where it goes wrong, with limited income but they still insist on continuing to gamble by aiming for big wins, they are not aware of the true meaning of gambling, if only they could realize that gambling is just for fun based on games, maybe they wouldn't have lost so much, It is important to have boundaries and a good mindset because of this, those who chase the victory unknowingly have lost a lot of money, may not have a good mindset and do not have boundaries in gambling, so they can spend a lot of money to gamble with the big wins they pursue. Right what you said, I think they are better off opening their own casino that will generate a lot of profit for themselves, but how to open a casino? they just gamble with the aim of getting a big win in the sense that they need a lot of money and that means they don't have a lot of money, if that's like that how can they open their own casino? just gambling with the aim of making money. Maybe they have to wait until they get a big win or what is called a jackpot, then they can put shares or open the casino they want. Quite impossible, but there's no harm in hoping hahaha.
1720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: November 28, 2023, 11:34:02 AM
Not everyone can control themselves when they get a win, there are still some people who do as you said, by following the greed that has overcome them so they take steps to continue the game by pursuing a bigger win which of course they are after getting some winnings in gambling. And maybe this can be said to be a very risky decision, because the victory that was previously obtained may be lost again by following his greed. what they should remember is, luck will not always be on their side, so when they get a win and want to continue the game by aiming for a bigger win, they should consider it first so that there is no such thing as regret in the end because most likely they will lose the winnings that have been obtained and get tired again.
We have to prevent our greed from getting bigger because when our greed gets bigger, we will definitely have difficulty controlling it and we will also lose self-control and indulge our greed to continue gambling until we end up losing our money. That is something that often happens to many gamblers, where when they have won a certain amount of money, they should immediately withdraw the winnings and not continue gambling. However, instead they continue gambling until they use up their winnings because they feel they can still win another amount of money before they stop gambling. But the reality is that they actually experience defeat and the defeat gets bigger because they still think about pursuing the victory they have previously obtained. That's not wise for us, especially since we already have more experience than them, so we really have to control ourselves well and won't be tempted to continue gambling.
That's what I mean, as much as possible we should be able to control greed that will make everything a mess, by controlling greed it can avoid losses that will come later, for example when getting a win immediately it might be better to cash it in, not following the ego that leads to continue the game, that way we can be said to have good self-control because we can cash in on the winnings we get and we can also fight the greed. It is difficult but there is no harm, because it can also have a good impact on us. If gambling continues by always following the ego that leads to greed like that there will be no end, but will only make us go deeper with the amount of money lost due to gambling. So as much as possible must have limits when gambling because all of that we ourselves have full control.
Also self-control that must be owned and strengthened more, because it also has an important role in gambling that can make us limit existing gambling, especially when getting a win. When getting a win, of course, control plays a very big role, because if you don't have strong self-control, you can lose the winnings you have gotten again because you bet it again, and that must be avoided, how? one of them is by having strong self-control, because it can limit us when gambling and it can also save us from the risk of big losses.
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