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1801  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi | Project status on: November 21, 2023, 02:07:36 PM
For what announcement they made for sure many people are now watching the latest development of  planned refund to their old users since if that would really happen then we can say that there's still a platform came back after they had been compromise and want to clear their brand for any negatives posting against them. Now maybe the next update they made would be more interesting since this might indicate the refund is near to come. Hopefully they are not playing around and troll people by giving false hope since if that happens for sure there's nothing to go back here and betnomi will not get a good trust coming from community so lets hope for the best and hope all parties will be happy if refund process will happen in near future.
I'm sure there's a lot of user data from Betnomi. they have to complete everything gradually. the process will not take a short time. but when they returned to the forum and provided such clarification, it was good news for all users with funds in the casino.
maybe Betnomi can return all their users' balances, but as they said, they will probably come up with another brand to continue the business.
no one wants problems in their business that result in very bad situations. This time it was experienced by Betnomi, maybe in the future we can also see it happen at other casinos. So for every gambler, be wise in managing the finances we leave at the casino.
It would be wrong if they tried to continue their business before the problem was resolved. So in my opinion, whether customers like it or not should come first, if all the problems have been resolved and Betnomi has proven its seriousness, you can continue business with a new name or something like that as long as the main points of problem with users are resolved.

Don't continue the business if the business with the old users has not been completed, because in essence the business they are running will not gain the trust of the full community and will create new negative stigma. Wouldn't it be unethical if they built a new business on the suffering of users waiting for confirmation. What I'm worried about is that the same thing will happen again along the way. You definitely know what I mean
1802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cash out or keep playing? on: November 21, 2023, 01:12:35 PM
With my experiences in Gambling , then yah I will Cash Out  because I know that
 I can never beat the house and my luck is limited and if time ends? I made sure that I already withdraw
my winnings and wont let the Gambling site take those from me again like what id does in the past gaming
 in which I am always the loser.

Good if that's the case, the mindset that many people should have when they bet is to cash out when they get a win even if it's small, because as you said it won't be easy to beat the house, and it's also impossible to beat the system that has been created. It will be difficult even almost impossible to beat easily. They play like there is no risk that will happen to them so they play confidently to get a big win, even though they have lost a lot of money, but still chase a vague victory. That is greed, and dissatisfaction is also what they feel when they win a small amount, so they feel dissatisfied with the winnings they get and continue the game by increasing the bet amount.
1803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: November 21, 2023, 12:44:18 PM
Regulating the gambling industry is indeed very difficult its trend for online gambling has spread a lot. Although many organizations conduct monitoring they cannot be easily controlled and information on these is difficult to find online currently it is becoming easier through mobile, if you play gambling, no one will understand if you don't tell anyone. If law enforcement forces control they can take various steps to shut down the outside world which is not the case online. People who are addicted to gambling are usually harmful to their family and society and after selling their wealth they become destitute and do not know of such a big bad crime.
The gambling that is played today is very different from gambling in the past, now everyone can easily gamble without the knowledge of those closest to them because they can play gambling with the cellphone they have so that other people cannot easily see directly.
I agree with you that when someone is addicted to gambling, of course they will be very detrimental to themselves and the environment around them.
Yes, it is true that gambling today is very different from gambling in the past because of the advancement of the times, maybe gambling in the past was often done openly without using cellphones and almost everyone who did not gamble knew and was easily identified by the police, And gambling now most people who gamble use cellphones online so it is more difficult to be known by others, but in gambling now most people experience financial losses because gambling is now played by bookies on gambling sites so the impact is very bad to the point that it can damage the household if the gambler already has a wife. . So for those of us who don't gamble, don't try to do something like that because online gambling is addictive. If we are addicted, we will lose a lot because we are played by the bookie, and for people who are currently gambling or addicted, reduce their gambling so that you do not experience losses because there is no history of getting rich by gambling because gambling is just a trick of the bookie. It is not easy for gambling addicts to stop completely, but if you have the intention, you can definitely reduce or stop completely.
Technology has undoubtedly changed the face of gaming, but remember that control is ultimately what matters. Indeed, internet gambling is a new animal entirely ; more accessible and covert. However, lets not ignore it completely. A major component of the game is entertainment and thrill, and for other people, its just a harmless kick. The secret? Realizing your boundaries. Like candy, should you have one piece or two? All is well. But the entire bag? Problems.
Yes, that's right, whatever gambling is, of course what is important and must be prioritized is self-control, because with that we can gamble by limiting ourselves so as not to go too deep and avoid addiction, but currently it is very popular among the public because of the existence of online gambling which makes it easier for everyone to access, this means that more and more people know about gambling, especially with gambling advertisements on the internet, everyone tends to gamble online regardless of gender, caste and age. Everyone can do it easily, and everyone nowadays who often hangs out probably knows about online gambling which is currently popular. Everyone must realize that gambling is only for fun, not to be used as the main income in life. If they want to be rich, they should work hard, not gamble without knowing the winnings they will get.

Here, addiction poses a greater threat than the actual game. Those that gamble recreationally are aware that its a hobby rather than a source of income. And those sportsbooks? Of course they want to win, but isnt that the case in any business? Heres an idea: What if we approach gambling as more of a pastime than a habit? Stay lighthearted and have fun. And those who are having trouble? Ask for assistance. People, its all about balance. Play deftly, not forcefully.
The dangerous impact of addiction is doing things that are beyond reason or beyond common sense, such as crimes of stealing, robbing, etc. Yes, this has become their hobby that cannot be eliminated easily, and this addiction will also have an impact on others when the addict runs out of capital to gamble, because the gambler may do things that are not wanted by others as I mentioned earlier. They should realize, when they run out of money to gamble, they should stop instead of doing things that are beyond reason to be able to return to gambling.


Yes, it is true that gambling today is very different from gambling in the past because of the advancement of the times, maybe gambling in the past was often done openly without using cellphones and almost everyone who did not gamble knew and was easily identified by the police, And gambling now most people who gamble use cellphones online so it is more difficult to be known by others, but in gambling now most people experience financial losses because gambling is now played by bookies on gambling sites so the impact is very bad to the point that it can damage the household if the gambler already has a wife. . So for those of us who don't gamble, don't try to do something like that because online gambling is addictive. If we are addicted, we will lose a lot because we are played by the bookie, and for people who are currently gambling or addicted, reduce their gambling so that you do not experience losses because there is no history of getting rich by gambling because gambling is just a trick of the bookie. It is not easy for gambling addicts to stop completely, but if you have the intention, you can definitely reduce or stop completely.

It's not a must that everyone that gambles online has the tendency of becoming an addict. There are multiple factors that lead people to gambling addiction, which has nothing to do with the comfort of gambling online in our private rooms. Some were caused by the lost of a loved one like any other addiction or maybe failure, even relationship heartbreak. Your line about those who are already gambling is right, reducing the rate at which they gamble is fine. At least to an extent where they'll be enjoying their habit, without causing harm to their various loved ones. And due to the false believe that gamblers are toxic, married men should respect their homes and try to not go public about their gambling habit. Especially when their wife is against it. Not to break the home. But, when addicted or in trouble, they'll be no benefit not to let the cat out of the box. As they're the direct first aid to any mental disorder that gambling could cause. Hence, the money used to gamble should mainly be spare cash. Therefore maintaining our duty as the head of the family. Instead of letting gambling to remove the trust and respect our loved ones have for us. It also contributes to the addiction; lack of self control. The goal is to be responsible at all cost. That is gambling when we are completely free from any other task; company or business. Many have lost their good paying jobs because of gambling. It's not encouraged at all. That's one the reasons, Dewi Aries may have suggested that those who don't gamble, yet, shouldn't try it in the first place. Additionally, keeping few amount of money aside a week can also be a better method of not hurting the financial economy of our household.

It's not like that, but most of them are like that because they can't control themselves properly, so they gamble continuously because they have become addicted, and basically the human mind is easily tempted by advertisements on the internet, they are already interested, especially when they play, and what I know in my experience, beginners who gamble will be given a small win to attract them deeper, even though they know it's an attractant but it doesn't guarantee them to stop there, surely they will return to gambling and continue like that until they experience gambling addiction. In fact, when they have experienced addiction, it will make them turn into a more sensitive person, and in my opinion, relationships with lovers will also be affected, even with family, even if it will happen if they are severely addicted, I say this because according to the main topic "the madness of addicts", drug addicts or gambling are equally bad, both of these will harm themselves in terms of finance, health, and relationships. More or less, their friends will stay away because they don't want to get carried away with this dangerous addiction. And remember they need to be able to control themselves before gambling.
1804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: November 21, 2023, 10:21:30 AM
How did this unemployed person got addicted to gambling in the first place?
~snip~

I would think that many unemployed people turn to gambling as a way to make money, as they don't have it.

Not saying it's the best way to do it, but many do.

They will use some or all of their savings and try their luck at the casino, most of the time of course they simply end up losing it all.

That's right, unemployed people want to make money from gambling. Everyone thinks that gambling is the fastest way to make money without affecting any factors. If they commit theft, robbery is also a way to make money quickly, but if they take too much risk, the law will punish them. Making money from gambling will not be monitored by the law.
But they are wrong, and gambling is not a job for them to make money. They will increasingly burn all their savings on gambling, and gambling addiction will make them worse than when they are unemployed. The percentage of winners in gambling is tiny. Only lucky people get rewards in this game.

But that is a wrong thought, if gambling can make you rich quickly, it will definitely be done by everyone without exception, and as far as I know gambling also does not guarantee that it will provide a win that will make you rich, 99% of people who gamble find it difficult to win, and only 1% of people who manage to get a win that makes them rich. They can even do what you said like robbing or theft, to get money and return to gambling and that is also a dangerous impact of gambling addiction even though it is at great risk.
If they make gambling their main income it will only make them suffer more in the future, there will be dangerous problems that will harm themselves. as you said, they can even spend their savings that have been saved for a long time to gamble. and that is a bodh action, with the aim of doubling money by gambling that is not clear that it will give a big win, after all, if it is like that there will be no end until they realize for themselves that what they are doing is wrong.
1805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you in profit? on: November 21, 2023, 09:53:58 AM
At least for me now, it's no use calculating profits and losses. Let me tell you a little about my experience, if I calculate how much I lost due to gambling, especially in the past. I don't know how much money I spent at the gambling table, it's definitely not a small amount. Well, now the question actually contradicts the title of this thread. Do I have to calculate past losses even if they happened a decade ago? and now, I am involved in crypto casino gambling. Long story short, before I didn't have a greater understanding of gambling, what responsibility was and what self-control was. The point is, I act as I please to carry out gambling sessions. as a result, do I make a profit? It's clear, the answer is not at all.

If you look at your experience, it seems that 99% of people experience huge losses with their money spent on gambling if you look back from the beginning of their gambling until now that they are still gambling, and 1% of people who benefit from gambling, even though they have been gambling for a long time, but the benefits they get are unlikely to be large and not equivalent to the losses they have felt from the beginning they joined gambling. Many people gamble as they please, and I think that's a natural thing. Because the money used in gambling is also their own, so there is nothing wrong with it, even though in the end it is losing and there is also the possibility of losing a lot instead of winning. 
Apart from that, casinos or bookies do not want to get losses, so as much as possible they will make players spend their money on gambling. Because basically, the bookie is happy with players who spend their money on gambling because it is profitable for the bookie, but what happens to the players?
 it's their own risk of being deceived by the guarantee of easy wins. So it is natural that gamblers get more losses from the beginning of their gambling.

Now, I am involved in the world of crypto casinos. however, after going through various processes, experiences and so on. I have a slightly more extensive understanding of gambling itself, which brings responsibility along with self-control. Apart from that, the importance of knowledge for me. especially sports gambling. I have to know the various aspects related to it, as well as other variables. why, the answer is simple, which gambler wants to always lose in his gambling, 99% will answer no. Therefore, what should we do so as not to experience defeat? knowledge and science are needed, so that we can think as we should. then the question is, do you make a profit? refer to this thread. The answer is very varied, depending on how we think. If we sum it up as a whole, almost most will answer no. then, why still gamble?, if it's really detrimental.

Of course, there are many aspects that must be studied in order to reduce losses or risks, so that perhaps you can get profits more often, even if they are small. But that's not a problem, as long as it's profitable you can continue doing it, but if you continue to experience losses, please don't continue, it's better to try other things that can be profitable with risks that aren't too high or risks that are easy to deal with with solutions that are easy to get too.
All gamblers want big wins, especially those who think they can get rich quickly by gambling. say 100% all gamblers want big profits, including people who gamble wisely, even if they gamble with good limits and self-control, they definitely also want big, profitable wins. What I saw was that there were so many letters that answered "No", that they were still gambling, perhaps because they were still holding out hope for a big win to be won. But I don't know, I'm just guessing, besides, even if they are asked, most of them will answer with a lie, because someone who is addicted tends to be embarrassed by admitting that they are addicted to gambling.

For me it's simple, yesterday is the past, today is what we live, tomorrow is a mystery. Likewise with gambling, we cannot predict when we will get a profit, let alone a jackpot. Today I lost, tomorrow maybe not. This hour I win, the next minute nothing is certain. The point is, it depends on how we treat gambling itself. if you lose, you should stop. because it's no longer fun. On the other hand, if we win, there is still tomorrow, we can have fun with it. So, I don't need to calculate profit and loss for now, let alone question whether I made a profit. the answer, not certain and not important for most people, is as simple as that.

Anyway, everyone has their own way of thinking and opinions. what I say, not necessarily people will agree.

It is difficult to predict gambling to benefit easily even if he has been gambling for a long time or let's call me experienced and can be said to be professional. I think someone who insists on getting a big win or jackpot will not easily get a big win, so do you mean there is a matter of luck?
It's true what you said, when they lose they should stop, but what I know is the fact that when they lose, instead of stopping, they will get upset and go back to gambling with the aim of reversing the loss they felt. It is unethical to gamble by calculating profit and loss, because basically gambling is only for entertainment not for profit, even if you get profit it is only a bonus.
True, everyone has their own right to choose what they want. Because they also have their own thoughts so they themselves will determine what is good for them and what should be avoided. All back to themselves who will determine the future.
1806  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the right age for financial stability? on: November 21, 2023, 09:09:59 AM
Well, I hope this doesn't sound like a joke to you guys or some sort of cracked-up thread, but yeah, I mean to hear the opinion of others.
The sooner you start, the better the results will be and the time to enjoy it will be quicker so that while you are still young you can experience the financial freedom that many people hope for.
Education and nurture from parents will greatly influence a person to realize the importance of investment, but if you can be said to be old but have just started investing then don't be sad and there is no need to compare your life with other people because everyone has their own time. The important thing is that you have to start investing and also form the right one so that you can finally enjoy the results of that investment.


Whether you are late or early in investing, that won't be an issue because the important thing here is you decide to invest for good. While it could be easier for some other people to start investing because they have hard-earned money, but for most of us who are only minimal income earners, the challenge to achieve a sufficient amount of capital is certainly high. Education may not be enough, you really have to work hard on it so you can save and invest.
Yes I agree with you, it's never too late for a good process or thing. Everyone can invest at any time at any age, as long as they are able and willing to learn to run it well, there will be benefits later that will give their own satisfaction too.  By working hard and saving is a good thing, and even if the savings have been collected, it can be used to start a business or invest, but before investing there must also be learning related to investment because investment is not a trivial thing that can be done by many people. Many things must be learned to understand the world of investment that will be profitable, although there are also risks that are natural, because all things will definitely have risks. but to minimize it they can learn things related to investment, so that losses or risks that will come may be avoided easily.

However, if you decide to plan earlier to achieve financial stability, that would be better. It will open more possible chances to try out various investments and decide to stick on which one you become highly profitable and beneficial. Financial stability is not just earned, its a combination of hardwork and perseverance that completely paid off.
By working hard will produce good stability, also investment certainly requires capital at the beginning, so they must work hard to achieve financial stability in order to invest or start a business that will be profitable for themselves. Not many people have the spirit to work to achieve financial stability, even though they themselves will feel the results. don't be like people who don't know themselves, they don't work anymore, there is no effort made, they should do their best to achieve good financial stability, that way they will also feel and enjoy the results. Although there are people who have high education, but it does not guarantee a good life, even to work alone it may still be difficult to get, higher education is only an added degree behind the name, not that it will make our lives guaranteed enjoyable.
1807  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: November SINBAD.IO Mixer Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge on: November 21, 2023, 07:23:48 AM
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1808  Economy / Economics / Re: Small Scale Business Ideas on: November 20, 2023, 02:23:09 PM

Moving ahead with your example, what would be your decision if the expensive coffee shop had better customer relationship than the cheaper one? the answer can still explain better about what I meant by loyal customers sticking to the shop they like despite getting products more expensive. A shop that sells at a cheap rate could be overwhelmed with customers, not everybody would wait to get served. So, they'll have no option than to stick to the shop with a bit more expensive product, yet fast in responding and serving their needs. Hence, with your example, you'd notice that with this example, price is definitely what brings the relationship between the seller and the buyers. But, being concerned about the comfort of the buyer, can play a big role in retaining them, to visit some other times. Taking a food restaurant for example, some sell very high than their competitor and still retains customers. Due to the quality of food they provide to the customers across all branches. These days buyers want to be treated right and respected. Regardless of how much you charge them for the products.

It all comes back to yourself, I myself would prefer a coffee shop with affordable prices and a simple concept and also good service, maybe there are people who maintain their luxurious lifestyle even though it doesn't make them comfortable, because with those who feel they can afford it, they can maintain it with luxury, but not with me.
"So, they have no choice but to stay in the store with a slightly more expensive product", like you said this, so it all comes back to yourself, if the name of a loyal customer, of course they will survive by waiting to be served, because no matter how busy the store will definitely serve its customers well even though they have to wait, if they can't wait maybe they are annoyed with the service, but if people are smart, they can see when the store is crowded customers are queuing naturally they wait, right?

About the price being the determinant, it's true, like the saying "money knows the quality of goods" the more expensive the price, the better the quality. That is absolutely recognized. But is it possible that all people are like that? They don't want to wait to be served and run away from shop A to shop B? I don't think so. People's comfort is different, just like choices, they have the right to choose what is best for themselves.


Not saying this for all the people, but some are like this, they'll hardly leave a specific shop, due to personal transactions in the past as getting stuffs on credit in store A and not allowed in stored B. I mentioned this in my previous replies, under marketing. Because this person now have access to get stuffs on credit, he'll hardly move to another store, despite the high cost of the product. That's for the grocery stores. But, for other businesses, things can change. Maybe If I think I'm not in a hurry, It's possible to wait for the queue till it gets to me. Yet, it's always certain that the cheaper store gets more traffic and the attendants may not be fast enough to meet up to the standard of everyone, who came to get that product cheaper. And, note that, the price difference isn't that significant; quite a bit different from what the other store sell. As for price being a determinant. I don't follow that principle. Even my response always centered on selling at company instructed price. Those who think that price defines quality still fall for serious deceit in the market. It's left for the consumer to differentiate the quality product from less quality one.

And as far as I know, there are many items that can be paid for on credit, even all home appliances seem to be eligible. They may stay because the store usually provides credit payments, so it's natural for them to stay with a store like this. As I said, it all comes down to individual choice, there is no coercion for customers to stay or to leave, because they themselves have the right to choose and determine which is better.
True with what you said that "the clerk may not be fast enough to meet everyone's standards" but surely they will also maximize their services to make the customer comfortable, and the rest returns to the customer himself who determines. and keep in mind also that prices know goods in other words, money knows goods. so money also determines the quality of the goods.
1809  Economy / Gambling / Re: BC.Game-🔴🔴🔴BET RED IN CRASH!🔴🔴🔴 Find More Unique Games! on: November 20, 2023, 01:15:45 PM
You raise a good point about playing it safe, particularly when there's shady stuff like scam accusations floating around about a casino.  It's so important to take those red flags into account when you're evaluating how legit a site really is.  Like no way would I put my own money in there right now. And for sure I wouldnt go telling people to sign up or anything before I knew more.


Plus I'm holding off judgement too, but if any campaign manager in the forum won't promote it, then it's probably better to avoid it until the casino admins could prove that they are indeed trustworthy. It's nothing personal, but if a casino truly did something wrong with someone from our community, then our community should avoid that casino and tell everyone else to avoid it.
Because the warning flag is quite loud, anyone should remain alert and not try to enter this casino until everything can be resolved. There are still many casinos that provide comfort, security and are supported by a good reputation. So there is no reason to enter this casino if you don't want to get into trouble. Lately, there have been a lot of problems with casinos which were initially well supported on forums but for some reason the reasons always involved insiders taking advantage of the opportunity to destroy their own casinos. My brother experienced problems at this casino and forbade me not to try playing there, coincidentally I had not touched this casino for quite a long time and when I got negative issues I was no longer surprised.
1810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: November 20, 2023, 12:56:45 PM

Sorry for the slight error, bro, gamblers who gamble continuously will forget that luck will be their downfall because they don't control or control themselves in gambling, they should stop right away or go straight home and enjoy their winnings, but instead stay there and gamble, then with his selfish and greedy nature he will lose the lucky money.

Agree with your opinion, in soccer betting someone must have basic knowledge about soccer and there are also those who just look at their favorite team and think it is worth betting on.
So what this means is that gambling is an opportunity that will bring good luck.
If people are experiencing luck at that time and we should not expect too much from gambling as a bet to get a lot of money.

It's a no, but we can't remove that idea that there are people who will do everything for the sake of money, and instead of enjoying small wins they will keep pushing harder to make more money, and as we know those gamblers who got attached and have too much engagements with gambling are not far from getting addicted.

The main factor why they act greedy and cannot control themselves is because of the importance of money for life, the fact is who doesn't need money? everyone wants money for any needs in life, but unfortunately they cannot distinguish which places can make money for sure and which places can make money by relying only on luck. That is the real fact why greed can occur and why self-control is difficult to do even though they initially got a victory that might be enough. No other than they are too much in hope, they think the chances of winning like before will be able to repeat themselves, but not at all, I mean good luck will not always come twice at a time, they do not think in that direction and do not understand what is meant by the concept of real luck, and what happens instead is that all previous winnings are gone.

It's more on how you treat your gambling activities, if for the sake of fun you can just move forward whatever the outcome, but if you are after money, there's different take among those gamblers who have this intentions while gaming.

There are many points of view that each gambler brings to their gambling involvement, their  mindset is divided into two, where there are those who think that this is a very appropriate or profitable place to earn income, and there are also those who still bring awareness by simply consider that gambling is nothing more than an opportunity to achieve good luck, they know what is meant by luck, therefore for people who have a healthy  mindset they will know what they have to do in their gambling activities, they can differentiate between good and bad. which is a bad thing to do. So basically there are two different points of view in the two characters of gamblers, there are those who are still aware of gambling properly and there are also those who always overdo it because they misunderstand what odds mean.
1811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a gambler do you have a potential winning amount limit? on: November 20, 2023, 12:32:34 PM
no and never , I only play depend on my luck that time , meaning I will bet starting smaller roll then upon moving I will depend on mny winning amount , either to extend the bets or lessen more.

expecting how much to win will only brings frustration and also you will end up chasing your losses.

try not to become one instead just go with the flow with your gambling activities.

Basically, even though you are betting with only a small amount, some precautions must be applied to your gambling such as your loss limit, and you must be able to stop if your loss has reached that limit. Do not think that it does not matter because you use a small amount only, because logically even though the amount you use is small but still if you do it several times a day it is clear that the total is also large, so I hope you can consider it and find a good enough alternative to avoid the amount of loss that is getting bigger.

On the other hand you have a pretty good understanding by realizing that gambling is nothing more than an activity that always depends on luck, I agree with that and indeed it has become a fact that indeed gambling is nothing more than entertainment and the final result always depends on how lucky you are at that time.

Now in terms of expectations we also have to be able to control or manage them, because as you said that all final results always depend on luck so that means you should not put excessive expectations on winning, because obviously you will never know what the final result will be, and if you just put high hopes but the final result always loses then obviously it will only frustrate you, that's clear.
1812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this a good advice? on: November 20, 2023, 12:12:48 PM
I keep seeing gamblers advising themselves that you are one step closer to winning the jackpot when you quit too early,  it's sad that they strongly believe this.

Is this true?
Jackpot is possible to win but it is not easy to win Jackpot. If someone is always betrayed jackpot after adding extra greed, then once he could be gone. I do not give any such advocacy for many because many people have Jackpot that he could get bankrupt for all the time to betray him. If someone adds to Jackpot all the time, then his advisor should never follow because the jackpot winning is a dream for a tuberh that does not easily catch or become reality.

Winning the jackpot is very difficult, and you know why? because the casino will not let you easily multiply your money because what the casino prioritizes is profit for themselves and the jackpot will be given occasionally when the gamblers  have started to give up enough in pursuit of victory, nothing but it will be very useful to restore the spirit of the gamblers so that they return with high spirits along with the wrong mindset. In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, you're going to want to make sure that you've got a good idea of what you're getting yourself into.

Winning in gambling is always a difficult thing to get, but not completely, I would say it's easy to get if you sacrifice dozens of tries with some of your money just to get the occasional jackpot, and if you have got it I suggest you  to calculate the amount of money you have deposited with the amount of winnings is it balanced? I'm sure usually the number of losses will not be able to be covered just by getting one jackpot, just think about it, it's not a win but the casino returns your money that has previously lost several times, and it's hard to even break even, that's obvious.
1813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What according to you should be the age to retire from gambling ? on: November 20, 2023, 11:41:44 AM
It's true that some elderly people may become more demanding or difficult as they age. This can be due to a number of factors, such as changes in health, cognitive decline, or social isolation. In the case of gambling, it's important to remember that it is an addictive behavior. Just like any other addiction, it can be very difficult for people to control their gambling once they've developed a problem. This is true for people of all ages, including elderly adults.

But I believe that those elderly experienced gamblers who associate gambling with entertainment and the thrill of potential winnings are people who have self-aware, caution and responsibility, because all those adrenaline turbulence in gambling wouldn't affect them.
Responsible gambling means being in control of all your gambling activities from protecting your funds to avoiding gambling addiction every detail is essential. Unfortunately most physically ill older are unable to manage their gambling activities effectively. Adult experienced gamblers have more knowledge when faced with difficult situations but they can bring everything under control so they take less risk. There are many older veterans who are self-aware but their performance declines with age so it is better not to gamble.

Exactly, it is true and it has become a fact that responsible gamblers mean that they can manage all their gambling activities well, they can control everything including themselves and their mindset, they will not be too excessive in terms of winning because in terms of expectations they do not put too high expectations there, and that means I would say that responsible gamblers they still have a good level of awareness which ultimately makes them able to take some precautions so that unexpected things do not happen, especially addiction.

Yes maybe it's true that the elderly who experience physical illness as a result of age can make them unable to manage their gambling effectively, that's possible, but I don't think so, the management of gambling will not be tied or unrelated to their physical condition, because I personally think that gambling is almost completely in their mindset and consciousness, maybe it would be reasonable if you say that if the elderly have a mental disorder or for example have an emotional character that makes it difficult for them to balance and manage their gambling effectively. But I agree with your last statement that it's basically better not to gamble, they should enjoy their old age with other positive activities that are not risky, it's better.
1814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: November 20, 2023, 11:16:33 AM
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This is the right idea, because there is an opinion that gambling addiction begins when a player wins a huge amount. For example, you earn 500 dollars on full-time work, and you have earned 50,000. Of course, you will have a complete devaluation of your past work at work "why did I work so much if you can get money like this?" Therefore, this is a very dangerous moment - winning at the initial stages of gambling.

When the chance of winning in gambling becomes a reality then that is the thing that gamblers always look forward to, the thrill they get is no joke when the victory comes by itself, of course I will agree with your assumption that the thrill of victory is their starting point to get involved further in gambling, everyone needs money and when they get money for free in gambling winnings of course it becomes a very pleasant thing, and here you have explained the scenario of the mindset that exists in a gambler when getting a big win that even exceeds their monthly salary.

It makes sense that they would think or assume as you said "why am I working so hard but the returns are so much lower than the gambling winnings", I'm sure this mindset assumption would be in every person who just got a big win. You probably already know what they will do next, chances are they will quit their job and focus only on gambling to win like before. But here I will ask if you can always get a win in every session you gamble? I'm sure the answer is no, and that means there is absolutely no consistency and guarantee to earn right? I hope you use your common sense logically to think.
1815  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: November 20, 2023, 09:15:30 AM
Regulating the gambling industry is indeed very difficult its trend for online gambling has spread a lot. Although many organizations conduct monitoring they cannot be easily controlled and information on these is difficult to find online currently it is becoming easier through mobile, if you play gambling, no one will understand if you don't tell anyone. If law enforcement forces control they can take various steps to shut down the outside world which is not the case online. People who are addicted to gambling are usually harmful to their family and society and after selling their wealth they become destitute and do not know of such a big bad crime.
The gambling that is played today is very different from gambling in the past, now everyone can easily gamble without the knowledge of those closest to them because they can play gambling with the cellphone they have so that other people cannot easily see directly.
I agree with you that when someone is addicted to gambling, of course they will be very detrimental to themselves and the environment around them.
Yes, it is true that gambling today is very different from gambling in the past because of the advancement of the times, maybe gambling in the past was often done openly without using cellphones and almost everyone who did not gamble knew and was easily identified by the police, And gambling now most people who gamble use cellphones online so it is more difficult to be known by others, but in gambling now most people experience financial losses because gambling is now played by bookies on gambling sites so the impact is very bad to the point that it can damage the household if the gambler already has a wife. . So for those of us who don't gamble, don't try to do something like that because online gambling is addictive. If we are addicted, we will lose a lot because we are played by the bookie, and for people who are currently gambling or addicted, reduce their gambling so that you do not experience losses because there is no history of getting rich by gambling because gambling is just a trick of the bookie. It is not easy for gambling addicts to stop completely, but if you have the intention, you can definitely reduce or stop completely.
1816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: November 20, 2023, 08:33:33 AM
Those will be tough days for a gambling addict because he has to go through all the healing processes. But if he has acknowledged and accepted his condition of being a gambling addict from the start, that means he is ready to accept everything that he will go through. That is the consequence of what he has to do as a result of being addicted to gambling. And the rehabilitation process must be carried out well so that it can produce the results he wants. Therefore, if in the healing process, there is a family who continues to support him, the gambling addict will not feel heavy and can even feel the love of his family who does not abandon him who is undergoing healing therapy. This will make him enthusiastic because he will see that his family has not abandoned him but has remained with him while he is undergoing therapy.
Those which have fallen prey of any addiction need to realize that just as it took them months or even years for their addiction to develop, it will also take them a lot of time for them to overcome their addiction and they may need several tries for this to happen.

And I mention this because there are some of those addicts that have fantastic ideas about a fast recovery happening to them and everything going back to normal, something that is not really possible as even if they overcome their addiction they will have to struggle with it for the rest of their lives.
Yes, but usually no one wants to understand this. Beginners usually go into gambling to try it out for a little while and then get sucked into the game; it seems like a trap, although it may sound too loud. I remember how I bet for the first time and thought that I would try just a little, but in the end, after a few months, I lost several hundred dollars. I would like to recommend that beginners do not take their first bet lightly; they should always remember that this can lead to dire consequences.

With the beginning because of curiosity and trying to play, sooner or later it will become addicted even though with a small bet value it is likely to make someone addicted, small or large value of the bet played does not rule out the possibility of not being addicted, because basically gambling can attract a person's desire to continue playing even if they are just curious. like what you experienced.

So it's good for them to think in advance whether they can help themselves not to get addicted or even want to become addicted to gambling. Everything has its own risks, they just have to choose it.
Many beginners underestimate gambling by just thinking it's just a game, but in my opinion this is not just about ordinary games, this game can change a person's mindset, attitude, behavior if they are addicted. And this will harm them themselves.
1817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you in profit? on: November 20, 2023, 08:02:18 AM
I can without a doubt say ==> NO

We know the old saying that says, if you continue gambling, then the house will eventually win..... well, that is applicable to me. I had won a few Jackpots in the past and it had kept me going for a few years, but over time.. I lost more than what I gained.  Tongue

We know casinos let's you win small amounts ....just to keep you gambling and there are a small amount of people that are winning those big amounts, but they are scarce.

We feel like that hamster in the wheel.... running but getting nowhere.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I think all gamblers should remember the saying you said, so as not to gamble excessively which will make them trouble themselves because of the bad effects of gambling.
And it is common to lose more than you earn, most gamblers experience that, the bookies successfully drain the finances of the players who eventually become addicted to playing gambling.

The small winnings that casinos provide are just a withdrawal technique for players so that they continue to gamble without thinking about their losses, and with small wins it makes them more confident to get big wins that will change their lives like people who are successful with gambling. I think gambling involves luck, and people who are successful in gambling can also be those who gamble with limits and wisely but because they are lucky so they get a big jackpot.
1818  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the right age for financial stability? on: November 19, 2023, 09:25:20 PM
We should be prepared to meet the unexpected. Life gives unexpected turns in life and we need to be stable, if something happens. Atleast for this purpose we need to concentrate on making ourselves stable along with the enjoyment when one is young. When we are in a situation to carry our family or to handle responsibility, if we don't have the required fund at that time nothing give hands. Maybe we can get into frustration. Thinking the past days never get us on the track, we need to think and run for the better outcome. As said doing things at the earliest is the best in the fast moving world.
We cannot know when something that we cannot predict will happen, so it would be better for us to prepare ourselves first so that we can face this situation. If we have prepared ourselves then it will not be a problem if we experience this problem.
If we have responsibility for family finances, of course we must be able to work hard to be able to earn income to meet our family's needs because this is a responsibility that we must fulfill. Doing something as soon as possible will certainly be better for us in facing unforeseen circumstances. the unexpected.

Everyone doesn't want to experience big problems that happen to them, but the possibility of life problems will exist regardless of what. But if we have prepared everything well, it can be a problem that comes can be faced well and easily, even if it's a big problem, if those who have not prepared themselves or just take it easy all day, maybe they will have trouble in the future. but no one knows what the future will be like.

By working hard and doing everything well, it can make us ready to face the problems that will come, because with the experience they have it can help them in dealing with problems, and everyone also knows that if there is a problem, of course, you have to find the best solution, by discussing it with the closest people or with people you can trust. So in my opinion there is no age of stability for finances, if they can manage finances well from an early age (pocket money) given by parents and use it as needed not for useless things.
1819  Economy / Economics / Re: Small Scale Business Ideas on: November 19, 2023, 08:26:43 PM

Yes it is like that, even shops like this around my house are not just one so indeed shops like this have fierce competition, as I said by differentiating prices a little cheaper then they will pursue shops that have cheaper prices even though the price difference is very small it can affect their marketing. also this shop will have loyal customers like you said, they will shop because it is convenient at an affordable price.  With basic needs every day, it is possible that a shop like this will not be extinguished by always providing basic necessities that will definitely be sold every day. But of course there will also be definite risks, by managing it well it doesn't matter, even if you can manage it well it could be faster to reopen a gerosir shop or grocery store in another place because as I said there is the potential to grow quickly because by differentiating prices a little cheaper than other stores.

Reducing prices is great way of getting more customers. When the next shops increase prices and it's important to maintain the company price. And still offer quality products. It'll yield more trust from buyers and fetch new customers. The new customers we should expect are those who don't feel right about the prices other shops provide and wants to check elsewhere. But, they're customers that believes, since this shops sells at this rate, that shop would also sell at same rate. Unless someone tells them about getting same product and quality at a cheaper rate in the other shop. What I mean is that the loyal customers of the other shop owners still wouldn't mind buying at their favorite shop owner's shop. But the cheaper shop would definitely gain more customers in the street where they reside. Expanding quickly; building more in different province would be detrimental to the growth of the business. The growth of such shops still take years to get to a big sized shop like a mini super market. When running such a business it'll be great to hold tight the environment we started and win them over for years. Then establish a new one elsewhere, when we are sure about the solidity of the first shop. Thereby building the next one with the income the first one generates. And maximizing profits due to the increase in demands. Or maybe selling some products from the first in the new one. That would be a better idea and also reduce the risk of losses.

Because it can have a big influence on the shop that is run, and service can also affect store sales. we take the example of other shops or other businesses, for example coffee shops, many coffee shops today because it is a trendy place to hang out especially among young people, and the greatness of young people looking for a place to relax is a coffee shop or caffe. What I have experienced, I have visited a luxurious coffee shop with a high selling price per item, but their poor service made me lazy to visit the coffee shop again, in contrast to the other coffee that is simple and affordable prices with good service, can treat customers well, and it makes me comfortable to enjoy coffee or other menus. So service can also determine people to visit our shop or our business. because if with a comfortable waiter they do not hesitate to come back, there is even the potential for them to give good news to others and invite them to come to our shop. And service can also bring people who will become loyal customers who can even become friends to chat. right what you said, if the first store can be controlled properly, then you can reopen a new store, and not only grocery stores can be other stores as well to become a business.

Moving ahead with your example, what would be your decision if the expensive coffee shop had better customer relationship than the cheaper one? the answer can still explain better about what I meant by loyal customers sticking to the shop they like despite getting products more expensive. A shop that sells at a cheap rate could be overwhelmed with customers, not everybody would wait to get served. So, they'll have no option than to stick to the shop with a bit more expensive product, yet fast in responding and serving their needs. Hence, with your example, you'd notice that with this example, price is definitely what brings the relationship between the seller and the buyers. But, being concerned about the comfort of the buyer, can play a big role in retaining them, to visit some other times. Taking a food restaurant for example, some sell very high than their competitor and still retains customers. Due to the quality of food they provide to the customers across all branches. These days buyers want to be treated right and respected. Regardless of how much you charge them for the products.

It all comes back to yourself, I myself would prefer a coffee shop with affordable prices and a simple concept and also good service, maybe there are people who maintain their luxurious lifestyle even though it doesn't make them comfortable, because with those who feel they can afford it, they can maintain it with luxury, but not with me.
"So, they have no choice but to stay in the store with a slightly more expensive product", like you said this, so it all comes back to yourself, if the name of a loyal customer, of course they will survive by waiting to be served, because no matter how busy the store will definitely serve its customers well even though they have to wait, if they can't wait maybe they are annoyed with the service, but if people are smart, they can see when the store is crowded customers are queuing naturally they wait, right?

About the price being the determinant, it's true, like the saying "money knows the quality of goods" the more expensive the price, the better the quality. That is absolutely recognized. But is it possible that all people are like that? They don't want to wait to be served and run away from shop A to shop B? I don't think so. People's comfort is different, just like choices, they have the right to choose what is best for themselves.
1820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A tip for staying resposible while gambling. on: November 19, 2023, 07:37:34 PM
It's a good idea and my thinking is quite similar to yours. If I need to do something important and if there is a possibility that I might forget it, then I write it big on a site on my mobile screen or on a site display on my monitor screen so that I don't forget that task. This strategy can be a good move for a new gambler to not gamble with extra money but I think it is a better strategy if the gambler is aware enough. No matter which way a person earns money, it is not easy at all. I have seen many gamblers who lose the amount of money they earn in a month by just one gamble, it is a huge loss. If we are afraid of a gamble then it is better not to gamble, rather we should gamble with a smaller amount of money where our chances are higher. Even if you make a mistake by gambling with a small amount of money in the first instance, there will be no chance of a big loss.
That was too realistic because many people even just a small amount and with only minimum wages still use their money to gamble thinking they could be lucky and win the jackpot prize. But gambling is not just for rich people, everyone is welcome and it's up to us how to manage ourselves. The only thing we can do is to help them become responsible enough because yes, it was really hard to make money but just lost in one day or even just an hour in gambling. It doesn't matter for rich people but the main concern here is for those who have limited sources of income.
A gambler's worst moment in gambling is when he wins several gambles, accumulates some money, loses the next gamble and loses all the money. Every gambler should be wary of this. There is no point in us having to continue gambling, sometimes we should take a break. Decision making is easier if we take a break between gambling. Earning money is very difficult, there is no distinction between rich and poor in terms of earning money because both have earned money in different ways and both have worked hard in both ways to earn money. Now if we say that the poor should gamble more cautiously than the rich then it would be wrong, we should say that both gamblers should gamble cautiously. If there is doubt about a gamble then there is simply no need to play that gamble. We will play the gambling that will give us the most guarantee of winning and refrain from the rest.

Winning a gamble is something that every gambler always looks forward to, but don't be happy just yet because this victory is a poison that will make you even crazier in putting the amount of money and increasing expectations on this activity, collecting some money? yes it is a silly act and their mistake is because they are too serious in seeing the opportunities that exist in gambling, is it really a winning opportunity? I would say no, it is nothing more than a trap. Losing all the money you have? of course it's a very possible thing that can happen which is nothing but a result of your own mistakes that are too serious and by putting high hopes for something that is not at all certain, it is nothing more than a possibility, far from the reality that is expected.

The above is the cycle of addiction, it's horrible, not everyone will end up okay after entering that phase. Therefore it is clear that you should not overdo gambling, there is no prohibition but I hope you can know about what is best and can distinguish between good and bad. Gambling is not a place to make money at all, if it is a place to make money then why are so many people suffering from large losses? yes they will not be able to answer this. Caste is not a reference for winning or losing, all will end up the same.
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