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1401  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: December 25, 2023, 03:01:41 PM

Playing too much and out of control is the main problem here, if these gamblers can control theirselves well enough not to play too much and out of control, they will not have to suffer all this troubles as they will not go bankrupt and want to involve in unhealthy practice as this so as to be able to continually fund their habit.

Looking at the other side, gambling is not hard but winning is and if these same person who they are trying to stop from gambling is lucky and wins a good amount you will see how interested others will be and want to be part of the win or probably have a good share of the money win, the main issues here is the gambler not been able to control their selves and playing too much which eventually turns out to becoming a problem to them and family at Large. If they can control theirselves well enough to know when to stop and all that I'm very sure they will be in less problems than they will be.

Yes, gambling is not difficult, but what is difficult is how someone controls their gambling when playing correctly and precisely, and this is where we can decide for ourselves and see who can do it. Yes, maybe only a few are able to do it. because in casinos the temptation to gamble is very big and risky and many people are tempted by winning, not losing and what consequences they will experience if they continue to behave like that. If the person was truly conscious, he would immediately stop and leave the place.

Perhaps the point is that everyone can gamble but not everyone can control themselves or even some people who have previously set boundaries do not always mean that they will be able to do so when the gambling session starts. The fact is that there are a lot of things that look tempting when we are in a gambling session, some are very obsessed and then make decisions that are basically very wrong such as greed, and there are also those who remain normal in dealing with something that looks tempting. I think it all really depends on the personality and what the purpose of coming to gambling is.

In my opinion it is divided into two, there are those who come with high hopes of earning and there are also those who are nothing more than just looking for entertainment, obviously these two characters will determine how their fate will be next, for those who come with the aim of earning then obviously I think they will definitely have difficulty in controlling themselves, too serious expectations of victory are one of the causes, so that defeat will make them emotional and take actions out of control such as chasing break-even, and victory is also almost the same, which for people like that they will never be able to feel enough of what they have got. So the bottom line is that I would just say that control and some boundaries would usually be able to be exercised by people who come without any expectation of winning, or the intention is not too serious and just for entertainment.
1402  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: December 25, 2023, 02:42:12 PM
But unfortunately regret always comes at the end of the action when everything is already answered, and of course regret comes to confirm that the actions they took before were wrong, after all it is not uncommon or even very many people who advise and recommend to avoid acts of greed, especially in gambling activities, sometimes not only in this field, even in real life if we put greed then usually the final result is more disappointing, so that's why the importance of being grateful for whatever we have got. Greed is like you're negotiating with fate where basically fate has already said that that's the amount you should get in that session but because you're not grateful and instead put greed into it then fate will say something else, which is defeat. Let me know if the analogy isn't quite right. Cheesy
Yeah, we're even tired of telling the other gamblers to stop being greedy and when they need to stop, just stop completely so that they'll not wasting their money.

But that's how it is going for most of us, even if we're seeing people don't obliged with our advises, we're continuing to give them the advise that they need to hear so at least they've heard or read us give that tip of care to them.

To be honest, I also feel that boredom, which means when the people we advise really don't follow what we have suggested. I have one friend who is also quite active in online-based gambling such as slot machines, in a week he can be involved up to several times, more or less maybe 5 times a week, he is one of my close friends who often spends time together and I am very tired of telling him that don't put greed and it's better to cash out when the situation is in his favor or he means he managed to get a win. But he always says "just a little bit more", he sets a winning amount, like $200 and when his winnings are still below that amount then he won't stop. A few minutes later I'd ask him again "has it reached that amount" and he'd say "it's all gone again" and I'd honestly just laugh at him. It happens a lot, and so the point is sometimes even though we have given advice quite often it always cannot be denied that the advice we give will be completely useful, greed really makes them like closing their ears and not listening to some of the advice that comes in even from the closest people.

Yes although overall greed does not always result in something worse but still if the percentage of disappointment is more often due to greed then it is better for us to avoid it. True, regret will always be a painful thing, and of course as you said that we can make it a lesson so that we don't go back into the same hole for the umpteenth time. If they have fallen in the same hole several times then I guess I have to suspect their mental health. Tongue
Let us not give a number but let us say it this way that overall of it, the majority that are greedy doesn't end up good when they gamble.

Yes that's true, but sometimes there are always people who think that the greed that they apply at that time will be able to make them smile broadly at the end of the session in the sense of reaching the amount of victory they want, simply put is that they assume that "this time I will not be one of the people who are adversely affected by greed", that belief is always the initial problem. I think the main problem is in the expectations they put, if indeed they put excessive expectations on gambling then obviously something that we always consider dangerous maybe for them it doesn't hurt to try or even with a few tries, the cause is due to expectations that make their confidence even higher. But if we understand overall that greed can always be bad in any case then I think they will object to doing it and prefer to cash out early.
1403  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you take time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before registering? on: December 25, 2023, 02:22:51 PM

A decent gambling site should be transparent and fair, but we must still be watchful. While community strength is in numbers, personal effort is the first defence. A healthy and engaging gambling experience requires trust and caution in online venues.

This is true, we should know what we are doing, so in case we sign up to a gambling site to play, before we agree with their terms, everything that is written was already understood. Complaining in the end is useless because every casino might have a different rules, once you sign up, that simply means you agree to it.

Actually, for gamblers who doesn't really risk huge money, it's okay not to read the terms especially if they can just let go of their money in case their account will be ban and funds will be frozen. In the end, it's still up to our choice, and all the time it's important to be aware of the risk.

The main purpose of people come only to gamble and get a win or fun, although it is better to know what the rules and regulations are in the casino but on the other hand for most people it is very boring when the casino displays very long terms and conditions, and obviously the assumption of most people is that it is "boring", the fact is that such habits are difficult to break and most people will skip it. On the other hand I understand that all the statements provided by the casino are quite important to keep the gamblers engaged, it is nothing but information for the benefit of the gamblers in the end. So anyway I think it's better to read it even if it's just a little and take the important points.

The goal of the casino is just to make gamblers know about all the rules that are there so as to avoid some assumptions of fraud which of course can reduce the popularity of the casino as well when things that are not wanted by gamblers occur. Well true, more precisely maybe it all depends on our own personality, if indeed we are one of the responsible gamblers and understand about the concept of gambling, especially about the risks, then obviously there should not be some allegations of fraud or some other things that can corner the casino.
1404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does casino streamers have influence in your gambling life? on: December 25, 2023, 02:02:22 PM
Majority of persons has kicked against the gambling steamers but I have come to an extend of thought that there is is always strategies to and means of businesses and products adverts which gambling is not exemptional as long it is an institute to generate money and yields incomes for the casinos owner.
So, attracting the audience to the particular casinos company is necessary to proffer the organisation with the goals of making profits by initiating the audience to embrace the casino.
So, i think they shouldn't be called all the sorts of uncalled-for names of deceivers as long their system of influencing the audience is not enforced a mandate.

They will do everything for the sake of money, I think getting your point about how streamers are trying to attract gamblers to use the site and earn from the commissions that being provided by casino owners, they don't care if what going to happen as long as they are being paid for the services that made for the business, it will be the gambler responsibilities to take care of their finances.

Business is business and same with what streamers intend to do, casino owners are willing to pay that amount to acquire more gamblers to use their services.

Of course, the stremer will not be too concerned about how the fate of the people they bring to get involved in the site they are promoting, the point is as you say that money is the main focus for most people, especially stremers, so if indeed one of the sites that want to promote is able to pay according to the agreement then obviously there is no problem for them to air some promotions needed by the casino according to the agreement. The stremers only think about how to get more audience because then they will get more commissions or fees from the casinos they promote.

Yes that's right, this is a business that will benefit both parties between the casino and the stremers who are given jobs in the agreement as partners, the problem of the adverse effects of gambling that is promoted is the business of the gamblers who are involved, the point is the goal of the stremers just want to increase the number of audiences involved in any way.
1405  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beginner needs your advices in gambling. on: December 25, 2023, 01:42:50 PM

Don't you also think that Greed is one thing that makes people starts chasing after lose?
Although you are right about self-control but technically I can say is Greed because anyone who doesn't apply greed we can said to have self-control. Majority of 89 percent gamblers today falls into victim of that except for those who gamble's responsibly but those that channeled their source of living to gambling will always results to revenge gambling, that is chasing lose at loosing the entire bets we can also term it to be  anxiety due to the much pressure of constantly losing their projected budgets.

Usually the  victims of greed are those gamblers who have too much hope and also who can never  be grateful for whatever they have got, so the simple scenario is "if they win then they will be addicted and if they lose then they will be curious" all of that is the result of putting too much hope in something that has no certainty and guarantee..
Yes you are correct, constantly winning draw more closer to become addictions because as then bettor or gamer would think if they increased their wager they would get a higher probability to get huge time of winning so, they don't mind any amount they constantly use to gamble inasmuch as they will win big then they continues gambling before addiction takes over them. The thing as a gambler we should try our best to maintain some certain limits and remove Greed out of the game otherwise it will worsen the whole case and makes people looks irrelevant, no wonder people out the world treat gamblers as useless and hopeless people is because of how gamblers there presents the whole concepts to the general public .

So the conclusion with what I have said above is that actually winning or losing in gambling all of that can still be an indication for someone to enter the addiction phase, you have said that winning can make them double the money they bring with the aim of making the win bigger, it really can happen when gamblers manage to get a few wins in the last few sessions which of course can make them think of looking for a bigger number of wins.

That's right, with that then obviously self-control and some limits become very important for all gamblers, when the situation wins then obviously a change in mindset will occur because the excitement of the previous victory makes them increasingly put high confidence in winning, the situation of losing is the same, which can make gamblers very upset and finally trapped in uncontrolled emotions and of course things out of control are very likely they do until the money is completely depleted. So firmness in self-control and boundaries is really needed when someone is involved in gambling, because only that will be able to help us.
1406  Economy / Economics / Re: Retirement Age for Workers - Does this Make Sense? on: December 24, 2023, 07:28:31 PM
In my opinion, it all depends on each person. because people's pleasures are different in nature, for example someone who is 60 years old and he does not have a family or only lives alone, in my opinion, a person like this will prefer to continue working because of his situation who does not have a family and the friends who are in his workplace are his family so maybe I he will continue to work even though he is 60 years old.
And there are those who choose to retire at the age of 60, because they have a family and realize that their old age must be spent with their family because their pleasure is in their family, and their family is the most valuable treasure in life.
So everything has its own portion.
The percentage of people who work because they want to is very small, but most people work because of needs that must be met, and it is true, as you said, that each person has a different portion.
However, in my opinion, the retirement age cannot be set by someone else, even if we are workers in someone else's company, it all comes down to ourselves, even though every job, whether in the government or private sector, has its own age limit rules.
But what I mean is that our desire to work can be regulated by ourselves. For example, for those who want to retire early from work and enjoy life, they must prepare carefully before deciding on this, prepare savings or other things that can meet their needs in When he doesn't work later, it's easy in my opinion because we can do whatever we want as long as we are able to prepare in advance.

That makes sense, many of them work to meet their needs, sometimes there are also those who don't like their work but they still work and this may be due to factors related to their economic needs which must be met every day. However, in my opinion, it feels unethical if they have reached old age but are still working, they should just rest and spend time with their own family, because I am a person who always feels sorry, so if I were a boss and had an old employee, I would tell him to to just rest at home and spend a lot of time with their own family.

because in my opinion old age is no longer for working, but for enjoying periods of peace, life in old age should be enjoyed with things that make them happy, because there are people who don't like their work but still force themselves to work because of economic factors . but it is also up to them themselves to determine everything, as long as they think it is good then I will support it.
1407  Economy / Economics / Re: Learn to use DEBT in a proper way to create asset on: December 24, 2023, 07:04:21 PM
to start a business must have capital, because everything can run with money, a person who has a good idea but does not have enough money to run a business or business in my opinion it does not matter if they borrow money to be used as initial business capital, as long as they are sure that the business or business they run can generate profits in the future, because there are debts that must be paid and of course must also be repaid  In my opinion, this is not a problem,  if they can consider it well, because if they already have a good business idea and business,  it's a shame if they don't run it, so there's nothing wrong with trying, but don't be rash, trying I mean not by basing it,  of course it must be with accuracy because what is wanted is success not bankruptcy.

For example, someone who has a business and wants to open a branch in another place but doesn't have enough money in my opinion there is nothing wrong with them taking out a loan if they are sure that to expand their business network it will be more developed and profitable, of course they need more capital, and taking out a loan for capital to open their business is one way to overcome it. to make it bigger, according to That's not a problem for me, again in my opinion, whatever other people think, maybe their thoughts will be different because obviously everyone has different thoughts in doing something.
1408  Economy / Economics / Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way on: December 24, 2023, 06:44:15 PM
In my opinion, a man who has a good mindset, when they are young they will do positive things and of course people like this will definitely think about the future that they will experience later, because one day they will have their own family to support. Therefore, before having a wife, they must have prepared everything, including their own financial structure. Also, in my opinion, those who have a good mindset will likely be independent, not depend much on their parents, even if their parents are rich, they will not too dependent on his parents.

preparing a financial structure before starting a family is important, because there is a wife to support and also later there will be children to support too, therefore in my opinion having a job that makes money clearly must be done before having a family, because as a man - Men of course we have to have responsibility, and also in the future we will be the head of the family, therefore, in my opinion, men's responsibilities are very important in the family.
1409  Economy / Economics / Re: How to gain money on: December 24, 2023, 06:24:45 PM
Without:
Charity, begging, illegal, stocks, trading.
People earn money through finding a real job. If he has a stable source of income, then he can extend his source of income through taking an investment. That way, he will will have multiple source of income that will generate money for him. Also, if he has a good source of income, he can easily save so he can have something to reap in the future. Money is not achieved by doing nothing, you should learn how to make an effort so you can have something to gain later on.

that makes sense, in my opinion they can make money from many things because now developing technology also supports everything to be easy, as long as we have the will ourselves then it can be done and produce results, by having a job with a clear income I think It's only enough to meet their basic daily needs, sometimes even saving is still difficult, but just having a job that generates monthly income is already good, they can force themselves to set aside the money they earn for their future in the sense of investment.

investment can produce profits but over a long period of time, clearly in my opinion this is not an easy thing to do, because you have to be consistent to be able to do it, also with strong patience so that nothing detrimental happens, to invest according to I hope that if we look at people who have been successful with their investments, they will probably share a little of their experience with investments because to reduce risk, they have to learn a lot about investing.
1410  Economy / Economics / Re: Which do you prefer on: December 24, 2023, 06:03:37 PM
First I will advice you is that you shouldn't be too fast to quit your job for trading because you are now earning from trading. Before you quit try to make other alternative because it is not idea for you to depend on trading and have no hope on anything that is generating money for you. In trading anything can happen that you don't know how long you will be stranded,  for now think of creating something else for income before making trading as your only job.

it makes sense, in my opinion those who are already working with a clear income I don't think they should leave it just because of the trade, maybe it doesn't matter but it feels better to run both well, one is clear that it earns per month, but with trading it has its own risks where the finances that are owned may be lost just like that, if you really want to do trading, then of course you have to have enough money, and by having a job that earns a fixed income I think it can help.

But it all depends on the person, because there are people who only want to run one thing because they want to focus on what they want, but there are also people who are aiming for success by mastering all the things that are profitable. both are not wrong because it is their own choice, also with the results later they themselves will feel it. I myself prefer trading, but business also has an exciting side.
1411  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: December 24, 2023, 05:31:04 PM

The gambling addicted person who doesn’t have any money for the game will become the criminal for the money.At this situation some people become the criminal,but not all the gamblers.Many gamblers who get addicted to the gambling will get the loan for the many games after the no money in their bank wallets.If the gamblers had the steady money from his salary,he doesn’t get into the situation of taking the loan for the game in the gambling site.Some gambling addicts will do the ransom for the money of his own brother or sister daughter,many case was filed in my country because they involve in crime for gambling play money.

Having a bad habit and involvement in the approach of gambling activities but not having the ability in terms of the requirements to be able to engage in gambling or meaning not having the money to be able to bet and pursue the victory they always dream of will certainly make them legalize all means, as you can most likely they will act out of control, namely becoming criminals and robbing one of the shops or homes of the rich, I think cases like this are not uncommon for us to find, especially after the number of online-based gambling which is certainly easier to understand for anyone who wants to be seen and that's why the level of addiction is increasing without realizing it.

That is why we must  remain vigilant and put full caution on our gambling activities, not impossible but on the other hand there are already a lot of gamblers who unconsciously  enter the addiction phase because they are easily tempted by everything that looks tempting which turns out to be nothing more than a temptation for them to stray further and finally addicted..
We've seen desperation turn an innocent hobbyist into a criminal. A slippery slope, right? The terrible side of gambling addiction must be acknowledged by society. It's costly to lose one's morality as well as money. Not fear-mongering; just the truth. Growing internet gambling platforms have fuelled this fire. The ease of access and appearance of rapid wins lure naive victims into dangerous waters. We must recognize this trend.

Awareness is essential but insufficient. We need strong preventive and rehabilitative support. Educating individuals about addiction risks, symptoms, and treatment is our first defense. It's a battle to prevent addiction and help those recovering. Online gambling platforms should be regulated to prevent them from exploiting the vulnerable. Remember, we need empathy. Those who are addicted to gambling are persons, not statistics, and deserve our aid, not judgment.

That's right, not only do they not have the money to engage in gambling but the scenario of dominating losses can also certainly make someone a criminal instantly. Awareness is one of the things that is difficult to achieve when they are in a desperate situation due to dominating defeat, instead of accepting all the facts and understanding that it is gambling, but what they think is even crazier, thinking about how to make money to get revenge on gambling to pursue break-even or much bigger. Yes, this is the digital age where most people spend their time playing social media (outside of their main activities), there are many things they find there, especially some promotions from gambling that have been circulating more and more, of course I will agree with your idea that this situation is what triggers the fire to become bigger, the level of addiction is increasing and many people have financial problems as a result of seeing a place that is tempting to make money, but the facts slap themselves.

But seeking support for some preventive measures is not that simple guys, not everyone realizes their mistakes or even their addiction to then go to seek some support to help reinforce the preventive measures they already have, or conversely we also won't know if they are suffering from some indications of gambling that leads to addiction or even they are already in a situation of addiction. All of that requires recognition and it's not that easy to admit.
1412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: December 24, 2023, 04:58:00 PM
Take the money and go away and that's going to make you happy already.  Most of the gamblers are not satisfied with just a few bucks to hundreds of profits.

And that's why that instead of taking out money from the casino and be satisfied with it, many are not.

That's the reason why they keep on going on and they will have their own reasonable lessons when they've experienced these times.

Yes, that's what they should do if they manage to get a win or that means being in a situation of pretty good luck, but unfortunately most of the gamblers can't do that, the urge out of hope for something bigger always appears when gamblers are in a winning situation, instead of withdrawing or cashing out to enjoy but what they choose is to apply greed by making previous wins as capital for a much bigger win, but the question is not that it is still uncertain? Or does that mean you don't know what the next session will be like? Obviously, it's nothing more than a hallucination that comes out of the excitement of being in a winning situation.
They will do that as soon as they regret their actions. It's normal for all gamblers to experience all of these regrets and then by the next time we take actions, it is the better decision that we'll do.

But unfortunately regret always comes at the end of the action when everything is already answered, and of course regret comes to confirm that the actions they took before were wrong, after all it is not uncommon or even very many people who advise and recommend to avoid acts of greed, especially in gambling activities, sometimes not only in this field, even in real life if we put greed then usually the final result is more disappointing, so that's why the importance of being grateful for whatever we have got. Greed is like you're negotiating with fate where basically fate has already said that that's the amount you should get in that session but because you're not grateful and instead put greed into it then fate will say something else, which is defeat. Let me know if the analogy isn't quite right. Cheesy

Usually in any case if you apply greed then usually the final result will always be disappointing, it's a fact that often happens if you choose to act greedy instead of cashing out and going to enjoy it. Therefore, if you have already won then I think the best option is to cash out rather than losing all your previous winnings because of applying greed and regretting it.
Greediness will not bring us any farther.

It will only teach us to be the best decision makers because we don't want to fall with the same emotions that we have. If you fall for the 2nd, 3rd or more time.

You are aware of what you're doing and you are not learning from your experience.

Yes although overall greed does not always result in something worse but still if the percentage of disappointment is more often due to greed then it is better for us to avoid it. True, regret will always be a painful thing, and of course as you said that we can make it a lesson so that we don't go back into the same hole for the umpteenth time. If they have fallen in the same hole several times then I guess I have to suspect their mental health. Tongue
1413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you take time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before registering? on: December 24, 2023, 04:36:56 PM
The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?

I try to read them rules, to be honest. Not right when I register, but a bit later, but still I think it's better to read them, at least briefly. They are almost the same on all legit platforms, so if you read couple of them it becomes easier to understand the words next time. I encourage everyone to not ignore the Terms and Conditions completely. At least make an effort.

But it is very difficult for most people and in general to allocate time just to read something very long, although basically it is important and better to read it but people still with their old habits assuming that it is all boring, when in reality maybe they only need a few minutes to read all the terms and conditions provided by the casino on the sign-up board.

At least a little bit and picking up a few key points from the text of the announcement provided by the casino is better than completely skipping it all.
1414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does casino streamers have influence in your gambling life? on: December 24, 2023, 04:11:56 PM
I just smiled but I want to ask, how many of you guys develops interests on a particular casino platform due to the influence of the casinos streamers?
It depends, but there are a lot of tricks in live streaming, indeed YouTube, Facebook have become fields for game streamers as well as other social media platforms, be careful in considering streamer Game Content circulating on social media, generally they often create demo Game Content to attract user interest in certain casinos.

Yes, social media is a field or place for stremers or influencers to make money, and usually more of them are involved in game streming by showing the above-average skills they have to attract many viewers to see it and then give some bonuses in the form of a certain amount of saweran to the stremers which is their income. But I see lately it is not uncommon or maybe even quite a lot of game stremers who switch to online gambling promotions such as slot machines that I see more on social media by displaying some of the games they play with a very large and seemingly endless win rate. Obviously behind the scenes they get paid by the casinos they promote, not all viewers know that, all they think is that they want to try it to get a similar victory, especially for those who are still new to gambling, but if you understand the concept of gambling and luck I think you will laugh at it. Grin

I often look at certain casino platforms, they often create certain game content, most of which they often create, namely slots, when we investigate in detail, the content they create is mostly fake, aka demo, To be honest, I'm not interested in following those who broadcast streamers, but if I see many people who are influenced by that, I don't.

I think the viewing of stremers with the aim  of promoting one of the slot casino sites is not uncommon, when we open one of the social media, especially Facebook,  sometimes on the first page alone we have found a promotional video or several advertisements displayed on a product. If we watch it while still carrying a good level of awareness then I think we should not be interested in trying what they show, because there will be some suspicions that come out of our minds that question "why is it so easy to make money" by just gambling,  that they get too unreasonable. I think this is also one of the causes of the increase in online gambling addiction.
1415  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Gambling affect your relationship? on: December 24, 2023, 03:51:14 PM
Was this a question or a statement of fact?! )
You are one hundred percent right. After all, relationships are built on trust and broken by its absence. If a person cannot control himself and starts gambling with money that he cannot afford to lose, then sooner or later this will lead to a break in relations with his partner and to problems with friends and problems at work, as well as with loved ones and relatives. This is probably not a complete list of problems that a person can get when starting to gamble with money that cannot be put at risk.

Of course, I think this is more of a question that is looking for a more factual statement. I think gambling would really be a problem in a relationship if you are using the budget for the benefit of both of you, like for example you use money for wedding expenses and then you use the money for your gambling habit then obviously it would be a problem in your relationship with your loved one.

The important point is of course as you said that all the problems started from them putting an amount of budget that they could not afford, if only they initially understood about the risks involved in gambling I think they would not be desperate to put money that they could not afford which certainly has the potential for problems. I think you have mentioned a list that is quite appropriate to the facts and possibilities that can occur. Therefore, understanding the risks in any case must be prioritized, do not take it all lightly.

As you've said, gambling will be a big problem if a person is using the budget for both of them and you've mentioned the wedding budget, If that's the case, possible it will cause a big problem and for sure that will be the root cause of why their marriage will not continue, it will be an eye opener for her partner and will be able to think about whether the decision to getting married  is the right one. when it comes to being in a relationship, I think it's better if we show our true character in the beginning so we can get to know our partners better, because it's hard to regret it in the end.

Of course, not only will it be a big problem but on the other hand it will also make one of them put doubts on one of their partners who is a suspect in terms of allocating money used for gambling and of course that doubt has the potential for possible marriage failure, because from here alone they already know the true character of one of their partners who acts carelessly and does not think about something more important, namely the wedding party.

If indeed this scenario really happened or even there is one of the gamblers who has experienced it then I am sure from the suspect's side he put money on gambling with the intention and purpose of multiplying the money for wedding expenses, whether he wants to make the party bigger or whatever it is with the money from his gambling winnings if he wins, but unfortunately people like that or who are especially addicted they are difficult to be able to think using common sense so that the risk for possibilities that do not match reality is not thought of in such situations. Yes, it's a good suggestion to first show our true nature before entering into a more serious level such as marriage, I think it's more about opening up and adapting to each other.
1416  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beginner needs your advices in gambling. on: December 24, 2023, 03:32:29 PM
This should be one skills all newbies thinking about joining the gambling industry or already part of the industry should learn. It would take time so if you don't have it they shouldn't be gambling, they should first learn how to have self control. Some individual are born with it or been taught while they were growing up while others have to learn it as they are adults. Gambling will always frustrate you so when you don't have patience and self control you can't be successful.

Self control would make you not to chase after losses which will only make you to lose more instead of winning back the money you lost. Self control will make you not to over gamble or exceed your gambling limit in attempt to win back the money you already lost. Halving self control is one important advice I'll give to anyone that's thinking about joining the gambling industry as it'll help them to avoid losses.

Don't you also think that Greed is one thing that makes people starts chasing after lose?
Although you are right about self-control but technically I can say is Greed because anyone who doesn't apply greed we can said to have self-control. Majority of 89 percent gamblers today falls into victim of that except for those who gamble's responsibly but those that channeled their source of living to gambling will always results to revenge gambling, that is chasing lose at loosing the entire bets we can also term it to be  anxiety due to the much pressure of constantly losing their projected budgets.

Of course, I think it's very clear that greed is the cause of them starting to chase defeat, it's obvious and not only that because the scenario of a winning situation can also encourage someone to do or apply acts of greed to pursue something bigger. Haha I never thought that there are people who don't really understand what control means as well as its benefits, that's right guys and there's no question that self-control is one of the actions that can make anyone avoid some actions out  of control, or that have the potential for worse results. If someone applies greed to their gambling then it clearly means that they do not have self-control.

Usually the  victims of greed are those gamblers who have too much hope and also who can never  be grateful for whatever they have got, so the simple scenario is "if they win then they will be addicted and if they lose then they will be curious" all of that is the result of putting too much hope in something that has no certainty and guarantee..
1417  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: December 24, 2023, 12:57:50 AM

money is always the reason for many criminals to legalize the bad things they do and it's not just 1 or two people who claim to have committed crimes because of money, there are so many similar cases. Gambling addicts who do not have a steady income and income that can enable them to continue gambling will definitely lead to criminal activity and cases of extortion committed by gambling addicts are quite common.
Those who are addicted to gambling find it very difficult to think clearly. If you have relatives or neighbors who are like this then it's best to stay away from them or isolate them somewhere.


The gambling addicted person who doesn’t have any money for the game will become the criminal for the money.At this situation some people become the criminal,but not all the gamblers.Many gamblers who get addicted to the gambling will get the loan for the many games after the no money in their bank wallets.If the gamblers had the steady money from his salary,he doesn’t get into the situation of taking the loan for the game in the gambling site.Some gambling addicts will do the ransom for the money of his own brother or sister daughter,many case was filed in my country because they involve in crime for gambling play money.

Having a bad habit and involvement in the approach of gambling activities but not having the ability in terms of the requirements to be able to engage in gambling or meaning not having the money to be able to bet and pursue the victory they always dream of will certainly make them legalize all means, as you can most likely they will act out of control, namely becoming criminals and robbing one of the shops or homes of the rich, I think cases like this are not uncommon for us to find, especially after the number of online-based gambling which is certainly easier to understand for anyone who wants to be seen and that's why the level of addiction is increasing without realizing it.

That is why we must  remain vigilant and put full caution on our gambling activities, not impossible but on the other hand there are already a lot of gamblers who unconsciously  enter the addiction phase because they are easily tempted by everything that looks tempting which turns out to be nothing more than a temptation for them to stray further and finally addicted..
1418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sympathetic gamblers looses itself on: December 24, 2023, 12:07:52 AM
Giving into emotions can be dangerous, but successful is very subjective term. I would take it as being successful when we don't lose everything by playing everything we got, or even more then we budgeted. That's a win in my book. I don't necessary wait for huge profits in order to be successful. Just minimized losses. As long i am losing what i am affording to lose, i consider myself a successful gambler. That might be a low bar for someone but it keeps me straight and far from the trouble and deep end. And i consider myself greedy, not so desperately greedy i would play with a loan or anything like that. But i gamble with winnings sometimes, maybe with too greedy attitude, but that what gives me big wins sometimes. But only sometimes.


The gambler should control their emotions in the gambling,So he play the gambling without any expectation in the gambling.The biggest money making gamblers are the people who play the game without any expectations from the gambling site.Only the gamblers who doesn’t have any expectation will use their own strategies without any hesitation.Because the gambler had many options to take risk by playing without any expectation.The risk was the important one for the gamblers to make the money from the gambling site,greedy also should be avoided by the gamblers to make more money in the gambling sites in long run.

I think they will only be able to control everything, especially their emotions when they experience defeat, if they come without having a goal to produce, or what we usually call coming only to look for fun and entertainment, because if someone is more focused on winning than Concerned  about the possibility of greater risks, it will clearly be very difficult to be able to take such preventive measures, expectations and hope are one of the main problems.

I think you can't just say that "they can make money if they can control themselves or without putting expectations" you have to understand that self-control and avoiding greed is only something that is useful for minimizing risk and does not mean increasing the winning percentage  to bigger or more frequent, however, victory is always impossible to know when it will come because only luck can bring you results like that.
1419  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: December 23, 2023, 11:35:39 PM
Take the money and go away and that's going to make you happy already.  Most of the gamblers are not satisfied with just a few bucks to hundreds of profits.

And that's why that instead of taking out money from the casino and be satisfied with it, many are not.

That's the reason why they keep on going on and they will have their own reasonable lessons when they've experienced these times.

Yes, that's what they should do if they manage to get a win or that means being in a situation of pretty good luck, but unfortunately most of the gamblers can't do that, the urge out of hope for something bigger always appears when gamblers are in a winning situation, instead of withdrawing or cashing out to enjoy but what they choose is to apply greed by making previous wins as capital for a much bigger win, but the question is not that it is still uncertain? Or does that mean you don't know what the next session will be like? Obviously, it's nothing more than a hallucination that comes out of the excitement of being in a winning situation.

Usually in any case if you apply greed then usually the final result will always be disappointing, it's a fact that often happens if you choose to act greedy instead of cashing out and going to enjoy it. Therefore, if you have already won then I think the best option is to cash out rather than losing all your previous winnings because of applying greed and regretting it.
1420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: December 23, 2023, 10:25:47 PM

Not sure if those tips would actually help slots are a bit of luck.  Some of the worst odds in the casino but it's meant to be "fun".  If you don't have fun playing than slots is not for you.  I'd play a table game or a game like roulette with much better odds.

The slot game was based on the luck,but some gamblers play with the probability.The luck or tactics was based on the individual gamblers,because the gamblers using their own money to play the game.So the choice of luck or math was based on the gambler.

In my opinion, slot games are purely about luck, or I mean whoever it is, they will only be able to win when luck comes at the same time when you are in the session, that's why many people experience losses more often than wins in that type of game, and Also in my opinion overall, this slot game is more addictive than some other types of gambling, winning looks like it's easy even though in fact it is very difficult, therefore this type of gambling really should be used as a place of entertainment only when you really have free time, not only that but I think what is better is that you put the right mindset and understanding on all types of gambling.

Nothing more because all final results always depend on how lucky you are at that time, so of course you have to understand that gambling is nothing more than a game of probability which always cannot be predicted, especially for the final result, therefore I think gamblers cannot force their choices. , because it is clear that all gamblers definitely want to win no matter what, even though they come for the purpose of enjoyment, so you cannot say that gamblers can choose or force their choices because all expectations will not always match the facts.
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