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1561  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 11, 2023, 04:37:16 PM
I don't think Bayern Munich has suffered such a heavy defeat in the league for a long time.Frankfurt gave them a reminder of what it feels like to be defeated.Frankfurt managed to score 5 goals in 60 minutes, a score that was not expected by everyone.Bayern Munich must have been surprised. They suffered their first defeat in the league and lost the lead.I think it was a shock for them.To score 5 goals in 60 minutes against a team like Bayern Munich is not something that every team can do.Frankfurt did it and was the first team to stop Bayern Munich.

This is a totally unexpected result, before it would have been most likely that people would have bet on Bayern Munich and put great faith in this squad, because there was absolutely no indication of such an embarrassing result and in addition overall Bayern Munich is much more favored and favored especially in the Bundesliga. Exactly, this result indirectly reminds Tuchel that any result can happen in a match, not that it is impossible but this is the fact, anything can happen and sometimes expectations can become a dream and hallucination.

If this incident happened  to other teams in the Bundesliga, especially those in the top five area besides Bayern Munich, maybe I wouldn't be too surprised to see it, but if this situation happened to Bayern Munich, which was identical to the defending champion for more than a decade and was defeated by a medium-sized team it was hard to believe, but this is the fact. This situation really makes Leverkusen and Xabi Alonso smile because obviously they can move further away from Bayern Munich's pursuit, in addition Leverkusen has added one point at the top of the standings as a result of the draw against VfB. There's nothing more I can say other than the 5 - 1 defeat was really embarrassing for Bayern Munich.
1562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 11, 2023, 01:27:42 PM
My guesses and predictions finally match the expectations about Tottenham vs Newcastle, finally Tottenham can make a comeback by winning three points in this match with a score that is quite satisfying in my opinion. Ange really made changes to his squad that have been proven in this match, with this result it is clear that the fans' confidence will be restored for the downturn in their pride team in the previous few matches.

The first half until before the second half ended Tottenham really didn't give Newcastle the slightest breath, I thought at first Tottenham would be able to get a full victory without having to concede a goal but it turned out that towards the end of the match Newcastle could make one advantage through a goal from Joelinton which finally the match ended with a score of 4 - 1 for Tottenham's victory. With this good result, Tottenham can finally get a little further away from Manchester United's pursuit in terms of points difference. Next Tottenham will face Nottm Forest and I think this will not be a difficult match for them.
1563  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 11, 2023, 01:02:12 PM
A successful gambler is rarely considered as addicted they are not fully addicted they have enough experience that they win gambling games and fall under the category of successful gamblers. Gamblers who cannot sustain success after winning become greedy and become addicted. Successful gamblers know enough about how to protect their funds. Gambling has been involved for a long time and their practice is very good. At the end of the day they are successful gamblers and do not have addiction problems due to proper practice.
It could be that successful gamblers do not experience addiction because they have experience in how to overcome addiction, which can come at any time. A successful gambler knows what to do when he has been gambling for a long time and he will choose to stop gambling rather than lose his money.
This is what differentiates successful gamblers from most gamblers because successful gamblers can overcome everything that would have a bad impact on them. They have more experience than most gamblers so they can decide what to do.

Honestly, I wouldn't say they are successful gamblers, because clearly success is more  directed towards success in achieving something at the end point, while in gambling everything will return to the beginning  when the session you have done is finished and you find the answer between winning/losing, here I will rather calling them intelligent gamblers, none other than all the ways they have that they get from  an experience in their gambling involvement and all of that they get from a condition that makes them feel bad - like maybe losing with a large amount that they can make it a lesson and finally now they can find and implement a better way so as not to get stuck in the same hole.

Smart gamblers are obviously very different from regular gamblers especially beginners who are just getting involved or with those who are always aggressive in their gambling, I think the difference is in terms of experience and way of thinking and you have said it above. That means that gamblers who are now beginners still have the opportunity to become smart gamblers like the main object we are discussing here, but it all comes back to them if they just can't think well and are not one of  the people who are willing to learn from experience for a change then obviously they will not be able to become smart gamblers to stay safe..
1564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: December 11, 2023, 12:34:07 PM

It is entirely up to the individual to quit gambling the individual can control himself if he wants to. But if the addiction is a compulsive gambling problem you may be constantly betting which leads to losses using up savings and creating debt. You may hide your behavior and even turn to theft or fraud to support your addiction for example someone who plays a game for fun one day and comes back sober is different. For one who has become unemployed the matter has become like a reflexive action and the amount of radical destruction is greater.

Your adrenaline changes when your participation gets deeper. I mean, at first you treat things as part of your entertainment, but because of your continuous involvement, you become addicted and there's that problems reside, things that you can't control anymore. It is easy before things get to addiction, better to make that assessment when you are dealing with gambling before things get worse and you are unable to protect yourself and control your emotions.

Quitting is always part of your options. Think wiser when dealing with gambling as bad side effects also await you if you fail to control yourself.

It is very clear that the deeper or more often a person is involved in gambling, the more adrenaline will also be triggered, the reason is because you will meet more and more moments that are quite tantalizing there, such as moments that you should be able to get a big win but instead fail just because of something, and that is what makes the gambler's adrenaline even more stimulated and wants to come again to bet in the hope of getting the moment that has been missed and failed. Addiction more often comes unconsciously or unnoticed by gamblers due to their excessive behavior, they feel normal in their gambling activities even though behind the scenes they feel that there are financial problems that they are now feeling but strangely cannot conclude that all these problems come from their excessive gambling activities.

It's good to make a judgment before it's too late, but it's usually very difficult to come to a realization when the gambler is already in the high adrenaline phase, which is why nothing else they do is even considered, they just want to gamble and keep gambling. On the other hand, it seems that they will only be able to make some considerations to find better decisions when they have experienced a downturn that traumatizes them and reaches consciousness.
1565  Economy / Economics / Re: I need financial advice for my careless uncle. on: December 11, 2023, 12:14:05 PM
Greeting to you all. I seek financial advice from you guys. My uncle who happens to be a contractor has been winning several contracts, but when the money comes all his plan becomes void simply because he I'll end up going to parties, drinking, womanizing and living a luxirious lifestyle. Although he is married and had kids but his youthful exhubirant has not yet left him even as his married and it's causing alot of problem in his family. When he has no money he thinks straight but when money comes he becomes unpredictable. He has really sufferd before he had this last chance he made over $5000 now he is seeking for financial advice, so I decided to bring up to this humble room to hear from you guys.

So what do you guys think he would do with such money to financially stabilize without going back to zero point?
Your uncle simply doesn't have a concrete goal just like a youth that just want to enjoy the life without thinking about the consequences a head of each of his actions. He needs to have a life advice and not a financial advise since all of his actions where messed up due to his action into seeking entertainment.

For a young person maybe that behavior can still be said to be quite reasonable because at a young age most people prefer to enjoy the brilliant times in their lives by trying everything and giving themselves any pleasure because they still have plenty of time for a change, but on the other hand for someone who has entered the elderly phase I think it is a very stupid habit and not recommended, I'm sure it's not new but his uncle is someone who likes to splurge at a young age but can't limit it so that the habit is carried over to old age. Well that's true, the advice about valuing money is good and necessary in this case but for someone who is old enough I think it would be more influential if we give some life advice especially in terms of adjusting the standard of living so as not to always overdo it.

I think your uncle needs to learn a heavy lesson to adjust his age and resposibilities to his actions, it would be hard for all of you especially on the benefinciaries of your uncle.

You and his family is the one that can give him a lesson and make sure that he learns about it. Make him realize about his actions and teach him to balance things out if possible. It's a hard thing to do but your uncle needs help in my opinion. Your uncle will the one be suffering at the end.

Seeking entertainment for fun is fine and dandy but if it's excessive and consistent I think it's definitely too much, he's not young anymore and time will tell, opportunities for change don't come twice. OP may get some pretty good advice in this room but basically people can only give a little advice and enlightenment for prevention and the rest only family members can fully implement as you said and it is true. Changing habits is always a difficult thing to do, but that doesn't mean it's impossible either, your advice is pretty good and I hope OP can apply some of the advice she got from this room to her uncle, it doesn't have to be too significant, apply it slowly is better the important thing is for sure, and also remind her not to be late when the rice has become porridge and regret it.
1566  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Spending more or less money on Casino this Holiday season on: December 11, 2023, 11:53:36 AM
I always adhere to the principle in life, even though I get Christmas and New Year bonuses, there are still other responsibilities that need to be taken care of rather than spending more of the bonus money at the casino. I will gamble responsibly by spending money as I have done before, the other part of the money I will spend on vacation with my wife and children.
New Year's time is only once a year, I don't want to miss this beautiful moment with my family just because of my selfishness in wanting to continue gambling to fulfill my lust.

Actually in this matter everything will go back to the principles that have been set by  each individual, as you say it's good, and for me also do the same as you, I don't care whether it's the holiday season or not, I still won't change the allocation of money I budgeted for gambling, in the sense of stagnating with the amount I can afford to lose. It is better and more effective to use the bonus money from the Christmas and New Year season for other purposes in life.

Basically, it can be a possibility for gamblers if they get free money from other things such as maybe a new year or holiday bonus, they will usually use that money to increase their gambling budget and that means that the expectations they put on winning are also getting higher because it is clear that by increasing the amount of budget on the bet it means they want something bigger, but the fact is that it is not always  like that, the casino will not care about how much you allocate, if it's time to lose, it will still lose. So the best thing is as you said, it's better to use the bonus money for other interests in life, such as going on a trip with family or for anything that can certainly have a positive impact without being involved with risk.
1567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever been a gambling addict? on: December 11, 2023, 11:31:08 AM
I've never been a gambling addicts before and don't think i will one day turn to be that nasty on addiction no matter how am craving for the satisfaction in gambling, same also, i dislike seing other people getting addicted for no reason, addiction has no better benefits than to make one useless at the end after being a successful gambler for years, the target is about the end of a gambler and not how he has began, that's why we should always think about the future consequences of every actions we are taking today, they must have a future plan for our own sake.
You can never say that because people that have tried alcohol, cigarettes and drugs said that same thing too and now they're a part of their habit and they can't shake it off and whenever they're not doing it, the addicted ones are itching to get them again and again until they don't have the money anymore. Don't blame them for being addicted though, it's not like they really have control over their addiction, if they did then they would've stopped a long time ago, by disliking or being distant to them will only lead to nothing but continuous usage and the proliferation of addiction, in a way it's the responsibility of other to at least give the helping whenever someone asks for it.
We must acknowledge that anyone can become addicted to anything under the wrong circumstances, it is because of this that we need to always be very careful with any activity in which we engage that has a long story of producing those kind of behaviors, and even if I consider gambling addiction to be way more rare than an addiction to a substance, we still need to reevaluate our behavior from time to time and change it as soon as we notice that we may be heading towards that path.

Basically, gambling addiction can come at any time and with any indication, whether it is what you think is right or not, addiction cannot always be guessed about where it started but certainly if you already know that an action must be avoided then obviously that means that the action can greatly trigger addiction. That is why we need to remain careful and apply full firmness to the boundaries we have, it is not impossible because as I have said above that gambling addiction can come from anywhere including without you realizing it, I think for all the bad effects that exist in gambling is no longer strange, or that means most people who are not even gamblers themselves know about the bad effects.

I think awareness has a very important role in this, especially to prevent everything that is not wanted from happening, by having awareness then obviously you will be able to make the right considerations as a result of thinking using common sense, and another thing is that awareness can also prevent something that turns out to be an indication or trigger for worse things to happen.
1568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: December 11, 2023, 10:53:38 AM
Previously, I had never encountered a husband and wife who actively gambled. If this incident happened to my family or relatives, I would ask the wife to stop gambling. The reason is of course to have more time to take care of the house and children. Husbands must also be able to limit gambling activities by leaving time to earn a living to meet family needs. Being active in gambling places is fine, but there are other responsibilities that need to be taken into account, if husband and wife always spend time gambling, then who will take care of their children.

It seems that cases like this are quite rare but there must be some out there. You are the head of the family and that means you have the power for every decision you want to make especially in your family relationship, a good decision but not that easy, your wife can reject the decision of you telling her to stop right? it is possible, especially if your wife is already involved with a high level of gambling or almost touching addiction. And the other thing is that it could be that your wife turns all the decisions over to you, or I mean she also wants you to quit the gambling activity, limiting is good but I think it's better if you can agree to quit together, but on the other hand it all depends on you and your wife especially in terms of approach in solving the problem.

I don't think there is a better choice between who should quit in a case like this than both quitting at the same time. The husband acts as a breadwinner and with his gambling habit it could be that the family experiences a decline in the economy or means a lack of money to meet needs, and if the husband stops and his wife does not then another possibility is that the money given by the husband for the needs of the kitchen and his children could be diverted to gambling by his wife.
1569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The shorter the time you spend the better on: December 11, 2023, 10:28:55 AM
Yeah, I think the more time you spend gambling, the bigger the chance you end up in the hole.  To try and prevent that, maybe set an alarm or something so you don't lose track of time.  That way you can stay focused and not make stupid bets just cause you're bored.  Also probably smart to decide how much cash you're willing to part with before you even start and  that way you dont blow more money than you were planning and end up regretting the whole thing.

Exactly, some gamblers who are addicted go through scenarios like this where they forget the time to go home and end up being carried away and trapped in a black hole far from the exit, there is nothing but a cycle that they will continue to do indefinitely. unless you can achieve consciousness. The OP has mentioned a good suggestion for an approach to not end up addicted, and to encourage that it can actually be done is by adding warnings as you said one of which might be setting an alarm to remind you that the session is over, no matter at the end by losing or winning.

On the other hand, the first point that must always be paid attention to is awareness, they must really be able to maintain full awareness when gambling, because that will be able to minimize unwanted things, especially so that you don't get carried away by pleasant circumstances. even though it is nothing more than a trap to get you further involved, limiting time, hopes/expectations and budget in each session is really recommended for being a healthy gambler.
1570  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap on: December 11, 2023, 09:51:48 AM
Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.
Of course, not everyone can get a big win the first time when they first start gambling, in fact this kind of perspective is just talk from other people, in fact there are still many new players who were not able to win even though they have spent a lot of money gambling.  This is of course just a warning to people who win for the first time in gambling so that they can limit their gambling

Only some of them or some of them can get a win when at the beginning of their involvement luck comes at the same time when they have a session, the title above is just a warning if in the first session of  gambling you get a win then you should not easily believe and not say that all gamblers will get a win at the beginning of their involvement.
As you said, there are still many gamblers out there who have spent a lot of money but still have not won at all, and that is a big reason for the statement that "gambling is just about luck".

On the other hand, the warning made by the OP is very good, because lately I have seen that it is true that gamblers who put too much hope and confidence in income from gambling when in the early stages they can already get a win, the luck that comes at the beginning is like brainwashing them into assuming that "gambling is an effective way to earn" even though the initial victory is nothing more because at the same  time luck also comes. So it is hoped that for you and those especially who have just come to better understand what gambling is along with the concept of victory and the risks that are there, it is very useful so that you are not carried away by negative currents and end up in a slump.
1571  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Importance of Gambling to the society on: December 11, 2023, 09:31:24 AM

It is none other than because they have their own mindset and beliefs in themselves, big wins at the beginning of the engagement are usually the main factor why they can have such mindsets and beliefs, they assume that gambling is really a real place to earn, even though it is nothing more than their hallucinations that come out of too high expectations, and also on the other hand some self-control will be useless because their awareness is much lower than the mindset and false beliefs that are in their minds, this is more on lust that is difficult to negotiate.

Not only blind, but there are also some factors that encourage people to remain enthusiastic in pursuing winnings from gambling and one of the more likely in my opinion from the factor of insufficient circumstances such as in terms of economic weakness in their lives, so when they see an opportunity to get money from gambling then they will assume that this is a solution to improve their financial situation, without them knowing that the opposite is happening. Expectations have defeated the facts of reality, they always think "it looks like in the next session I will win", but it never happens and instead the number of losses increases over time, I think it is also difficult to apply some restrictions if the mindset is not correct.
Actually, the illusion of power is an issue when you're gambling. Our cognitive errors make us easily fooled. Here's an example of the gambler's fallacy: thinking that a win is "due" after a string of losses. Patterns dont work in gambling because its so random, but the mind continues to believe them. That feeling of hope and panic is common when money problems make it hard to make decisions. That feeling of "This time I'll win" is just a dream.

Consider this issue: Can we really manage chance? Actually, we can choose how to respond. Establishing boundaries, understanding odds, and knowing when to stop gambling are all parts of healthy gambling. Achieving this balance means combining pleasure with awareness. Being able to control our actions and hopes is more difficult than just winning at gambling.

Exactly, illusions always interfere in every session they do and sometimes including me too, illusions come from the encouragement of hopes and expectations that are too high that make us like putting dreams that seem to be coming true because they are driven by belief, so the assumption "this time I will be one of the lucky ones out of 10 people playing" is nothing more than a hallucination, it's quite strange even though they always know and feel the real evidence that even though they have put their faith and high hopes basically the final result is always dominated by disappointment.

Considering something for money management may be easy enough but not everyone has the same and correct management, it could be that you think it's right but according to others it's wrong, everything comes back to each of us in dealing with it as you said, combining fun with awareness is what is really recommended and what should be applied to gambling.
1572  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for newbies on: December 11, 2023, 08:51:28 AM
Sometimes some people just spin the same game in every session they do, it doesn't matter and it's pretty good if the game gives you a win quite often, but if you play but it's very difficult to get a win or even never give a win by the game you play then obviously they can follow the advice you conveyed this friend, several games or even thousands of other games can be for them to try, It is possible that their luck is in some other game that they have never touched before, and if you do not understand how to play then obviously you provide very good by trying first on a demo account, it is better than you immediately try it with real money but absolutely do not know how to play and maybe it will only cause many mistakes to occur which will also clearly waste more of their money.

For the initial stage, honestly, I would advise them to try the demo mode as you said, because even though they  don't mind losing, what they are betting is money, so the initial statement above as you said would be more effective to try and learn.
You can practice in a secure, shark-free pool (demo mode), so why throw caution to the wind and go all in with real money? God bless us, as humans, we tend to overestimate our own skills. Although we believe we'll be the next big winner, most games are actually made to be difficult. Isn't it what makes the hunt so exciting? It is what entices us to return for more

Remember, nevertheless, that gambling is a game of chance rather than ability. Changing games to try and find luck is similar to sampling several varieties of ice cream; you might discover your favorite or you might just freeze up. In the demo mode, you can practice without having to risk any of your hard-earned money. It's sensible, useful, and, let's face it, a lot less painful than discovering pricey mistakes

Yes just to practice and understand how the demo account game works is a pretty good and effective choice, well that's right sometimes we like to overestimate our own abilities in any case when in fact we have a limit but they don't seem to pay much attention and care about that even though on the other hand understanding related games and how to play is quite useful too at least to reduce things that are not wanted especially defeat because of ignorance of how to play. Of course, most of the games are made difficult, which is what makes the bookie richer, because otherwise they might go bankrupt. Beginners don't realize the difficulty of winning, one win makes them curious and want to make 10 tries, on average more losses.

That is why gamblers, especially beginners and even professionals, must still apply caution and a high level of vigilance, none other than because gambling is entirely just a game of chance if you want to earn, and also another thing is that gambling is established for fun and that is why people who are looking for income get the opposite result, meaning that instead of winning but losing a lot. The purpose of a demo account is probably one of learning, casinos still care about you so they created this alternative.
1573  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beginner needs your advices in gambling. on: December 11, 2023, 08:29:38 AM
I am quite suspicious of most newbies who just get involved, out of 100% I think 70% of them come with the intention and purpose of earning, because lately I see more suffering from even large losses than enjoying the fun. If you are one of them then my hope and advice is to immediately change your mindset and point of view on gambling from now on, this is really dangerous, the chances of getting a win are not as easy as you think, and you never know how many losses have been experienced by people you see successfully get a sizable win.

So the bottom line is, the mindset and goal of earning in gambling is really not recommended because there are far greater risks than what you see as tempting, think about it and consider realistically from some of the facts that have happened about the adverse effects, set limits and keep awareness. you have to do that if you really want to stay safe there.

Also it is strange to see these newbies asking for advice or strategy to win. And they expect to win in every single game they play. As if we know some kind of secret to become rich (while still wearing signatures to earn a bit, go to work and hope Bitcoin to grow and makes us rich).

I would advice newbie just to play they way they play and want, and dont focus on earning. Little depends from them. If they are lucky, they would win. Gambling is mostly about random to majority.

Yes they always ask for some advice on how to win when in fact the chances of winning only depend on how lucky they are in each session they do, they should ask for some measures for prevention because that's the only thing that can be done for a change in order to reduce the number of losses, but what they ask is just the opposite as you said they think that we have some kind of secret to winning, it doesn't exist and I admit that I also don't have any way to win except for the luck that happens to come to me when I do some sessions.

In fact gambling is just a matter of chance and nothing more than that, if you are lucky then you will be able to turn that chance into reality (winning), the main focus is only recommended for entertainment and not income, one of the strongest reasons is that everything is random as you mentioned and it is very difficult to break unless you are really lucky, so as I said before it is better to focus on some limits and awareness, it is better.
1574  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 10, 2023, 11:36:56 AM

Huge victory for Frankfurt, and this isn't the first time they've pulled off such a win. Bayern's defense seems to be struggling. Something is off with this team; it's not the Bayern we're used to seeing. I feel for Harry Kane; winning the league seems difficult at this rate.
Bayern Munich is giving Bayer Leverkusen a significant advantage. Leverkusen is performing better this season, and now they have more shot at securing the top spot.
Don’t rush to conclusions, Bayer still has to play against Stuttgart today and perhaps they can also lose points. But this does not change the fact that Bayern needed to win and get ahead of Bayer. It’s strange to see that Bayern concede 5 goals in one game, especially since Neuer returned to the game and I don’t remember the last time he conceded so many goals.

But on the other hand it is true that the result was indeed very embarrassing and a big disappointment for Bayern Munich fans, I said Bayern Munich showed something bad but only in this match, and that means I'm not too exaggerated in putting doubts on them because basically it's quite normal for some teams to make mistakes in every competition, besides, on the other hand the season will still continue and that means it's true as you say that we shouldn't be too hasty in concluding, because any changes will still be very possible as the season progresses.

In Leverkusen's recent fixture list there are indeed two clubs that make me quite doubtful of a Leverkusen victory, they have already come through the match against Dortmund with a draw, and now we will see their match against Stuttgart which will also clearly not be an easy match for Xabi Alonso's squad because Stuttgart has consistency and good performance this season. So it's fair to put our doubts on Leverkusen in this match, we'll see if Leverkusen will have the same fate as Bayern Munich or manage to secure full points to further away from Munchen's pursuit, but I think it's more likely that they will share the points. Smiley
1575  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What according to you should be the age to retire from gambling ? on: December 10, 2023, 11:08:04 AM
It's not known and I think it depends more on each individual, if indeed they feel that this gambling activity only causes a lot of problems with their finances then obviously there is no benchmark when you have to stop and age cannot be used as a reference point, if it can be faster the better. In addition, on the other hand, if you feel that gambling does not interfere with your life at all, especially your financial situation which is still stable even though you are involved in gambling, I think the problem of stopping or not is all up to you, as simple as that.

But on the other hand gambling is inherently risky and I don't think it's ethical to spend your old age carrying your gambling habit around with you, there are plenty of other things that are also fun enough without the risk to accompany your old age, however I have to suggest that because it seems like a better option.
1576  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap on: December 10, 2023, 10:30:33 AM
Maximum time i have seen that the biggner Gambler win at their first gambling. Maybe its their luck fevour on them . That winning luck not work every time. That's the reason again they sometimes go for extra gamble. But I think they should believe the gambling strategy when they do gamble. After winning the get confident that the trap for beginners gambler.

Maybe what you say is true, for the problem of the number of wins it is indeed out of our control or even the gambler who does the session and I say it seems like they are being lucky at the beginning of their involvement. Of course it won't always work, or I mean they won't always get lucky to win in every session, I said out of 10x tries there might only be 1 or 2x wins that occur with a certain amount. Because basically gambling does not have any certainty for gamblers to get a pretty good result or vice versa, therefore it is absolutely not recommended for them to overdo it, especially with the amount of budget that is beyond their ability, it will only make them feel disappointed and hurt.

Another thing is that I don't think there is a strategy that will work 100% accurately to increase your chances of luck, the randomness that exists in gambling is real and has been proven by several cases of gamblers who lose more than earn even though they use the best way according to them, so it's better not to believe in it too much and you better apply a lot of restrictions strictly for your safety.
1577  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: December 10, 2023, 10:06:11 AM

I believe that aside from getting professional help for the gambling addict, especially when the addict or their loved ones can not afford the fees of the therapy, I think that the best thing for the addict is to engage in another kind of activity. There are different types of sports and games out there, football, tennis, basketball or games like chess, ps4, as you have suggested, lastly the addict can put his energy into learning new things, like an art or trade. The goal is to occupy his mind with something that will distract him from gambling, and channel his mind to enjoying new things.
Since most gambling addicts don't want to acknowledge it as a problem it is also difficult to treat. That is why it is right to prepare yourself to quit gambling by trying to understand the various harmful aspects of gambling addiction. It is never possible to release it if the person does not want it to get rid of gambling addiction the first thing is awareness about it. This awareness should exist in the case of gambling addicts as well as other people in the society. Besides it is very important to know well about gambling addiction support from family and friends of addicts can help their loved ones return to a normal life.

That's true, basically to recover from gambling addiction requires awareness and recognition, but these two things are almost difficult to get and do, to achieve a good enough awareness is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand, it takes a lot of time to consider realistically while their mindset is already disturbed and it is difficult to be able to think logically. Another thing is that if indeed someone who is already addicted feels unable to solve their own problems then obviously they need help from others but if it is difficult to get a true confession from them and about their addiction problem in detail then obviously on the other hand other people will also be confused to find what is the right way to treat this type of disease, like when you go to the doctor, if you don't tell the disease you suffer from then the doctor will also have difficulty finding the right medicine, right? more or less so.

Not only awareness and recognition, but as you said the other thing is that it requires a desire from themselves with strong determination, if this point does not exist then some actions will definitely be in vain.
1578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can loneliness make one addicted to gambling on: December 10, 2023, 09:35:50 AM
It's possible but I don't think it's entirely and not always like that, but on the other hand there is also a point that loneliness is an indication that someone is addicted to gambling if indeed that person chooses gambling to reduce boredom / fill spare time compared to several other things that are also no less fun. This is only an indication and not entirely, because for addiction problems it always depends on the approach and involvement you have there, if you come because of loneliness and just to fill your spare time I think it doesn't completely make you addicted.

The question is whether you always feel lonely or do not have any activity so that you have a lot of free time? If it is true that you do not have any activity like an unemployed person then obviously I think addiction can occur if you choose gambling to fill your time because over time it is very possible for you to take more interest in the activity especially if you have been given victory based on the wrong mindset and understanding, but if your lonely time is only one day a week then I think it is unlikely.
1579  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Importance of Gambling to the society on: December 10, 2023, 09:16:12 AM

However, they must be able to stop gambling for a moment to reduce their tension because after gambling for a while, let alone winning, they will tend to continue gambling. They won't remember to stop gambling first because they still want to chase winnings. They will not always be able to win and because their greed becomes bigger than before, they continue to gamble.

This is what the public already knows, so they don't want people around them to have to experience problems like that. They know that this will only cause more problems because such a person will not be able to provide for his family and will only think about gambling. So it is better for people just to refuse gambling rather than seeing people who have problems because they gamble excessively.

For people who are addicted to gambling, they will not be able to stop themselves from gambling, especially if they win, it is very likely that they will continue gambling until they feel tired and realize that their money is gone, because they find it difficult to control themselves when they are in the casino, of course There is always temptation and most people are easily tempted by this temptation because they are greedy and only chase a win that they are not certain to get back, as you said above.

It is true, basically people already know and are aware of the risks of gambling, but most of them are blind to how much money they can win so they rely on gambling as a way to make money. Not stopping gambling, but limiting yourself in gambling activities. If we are able to limit and regulate when and how much to bet, I think people will not experience big problems in gambling.

It is none other than because they have their own mindset and beliefs in themselves, big wins at the beginning of the engagement are usually the main factor why they can have such mindsets and beliefs, they assume that gambling is really a real place to earn, even though it is nothing more than their hallucinations that come out of too high expectations, and also on the other hand some self-control will be useless because their awareness is much lower than the mindset and false beliefs that are in their minds, this is more on lust that is difficult to negotiate.

Not only blind, but there are also some factors that encourage people to remain enthusiastic in pursuing winnings from gambling and one of the more likely in my opinion from the factor of insufficient circumstances such as in terms of economic weakness in their lives, so when they see an opportunity to get money from gambling then they will assume that this is a solution to improve their financial situation, without them knowing that the opposite is happening. Expectations have defeated the facts of reality, they always think "it looks like in the next session I will win", but it never happens and instead the number of losses increases over time, I think it is also difficult to apply some restrictions if the mindset is not correct.
1580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slot games are a waste of time and money (most of the time) on: December 10, 2023, 08:53:23 AM
Whatever gambling is and not just slots but including other types, I think it will only be a waste of money when you come with the wrong goal, such as maybe making a profit, for people who don't know and don't understand what gambling actually is and what gambling is for. I think they are the ones who will waste money by always trying to play more for the sake of winning big, even though on the other hand gambling is not for that.

This activity is nothing more than something that can only give you pleasure or other entertainment and does not include money in the category that the casino allows, but maybe the casino provides a small chance of winning which we should call a prize and not a win because you are great or whatever. So you won't waste too much money if you come just to have fun because on the other hand I'm sure the amount you budgeted is not large, and it will keep you fine and just think of the small money you have spent as costs for Paying for the pleasure you get is healthier and is a more recommended mindset if you really want to gamble but don't want to experience many bad impacts.
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