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1641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: December 05, 2023, 03:38:04 AM
It's only an irresponsible gambler that will go ahead in taking money for loan to gamble with it when they don't have any sure means of returning it back, we should gamble when we are free on our leisure time and also have some money at hand for that purpose, it's not a good idea to use loan fun for gambling, we can rather look for other means like earningfrom what we do or can do and not what will make others loss their interest on us.

Many people gamble by forcing it without looking at their limited financial situation. With their limited financial situation but they are already addicted to gambling so they will do anything to make money, but what they do is mostly wrong, because they are not working. They do anything to make money so they can gamble again but harming others also invites problems that have a big risk. such as, Borrowing money, there are some people who make loans to their friends or family members by force and there can even be violence because of borrowing money, and making online loans where this will bring problems in the future that can involve more than 1 person.
It would be nice to gamble with our own money and if there is no money it is better to just hold it, or vent it on other things that can avoid gambling activities.
1642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed or risk on: December 04, 2023, 05:41:04 PM
A lack of  satisfaction and high expectations is what makes some gamblers to still continue playing after having a win that was supposed to be taken as the achievement of the day but they get unsatisfied with the amount bethinking that maybe if they could try another bet again it might get them lucky to win again but it most times ends in loss. For the fact that I was lucky to win ones or probably twice at a row doesn't make it certain that I might continue in the winning streaks. Sometimes that one win after many times of losses for the day is just fortune own way of smiling at us so we don't go back home completely emptied.
Yep, a gambler who gambles only to earn money from it barely gets satisfied with the winnings no matter how big the amount they've won is, they will always try to increase their winnings and in that pursuit, they lose what they've won if they aren't wise enough to stop at the right time and in most cases, greed takes over the mind of a gambler who is gambling just for the sake of profits and don't consider gambling a source of entertainment or a time killer for them.

People who are gambling for gains and have been losing constantly don't consider a win to be good enough if it's insignificant to cover all the losses they had to bear so far because they would want to recover their losses before they end the session but in most cases, they end up losing everything which will be the end of the session for them.

If we discuss something in terms of hopes and desires then obviously it will always have no end, as happens in real life, usually we have difficulty in choosing about what is actually needed and what is wanted, often we are fooled because of these two things that usually unconsciously we prefer desires that basically do not really have a positive role / impact on our lives. It's the same with gambling, when people have high hopes following the desire to get something bigger then obviously they will prefer to increase the risk when in reality they can't accept all the consequences if they end up losing.

So in my opinion there are only two things that have the possibility to stop it, namely awareness and regret, realizing that everything they do including the mindset they carry is wrong and only makes them worse and with that incident there is some potential that makes them feel regret. If you gamble with high hopes and desires then obviously it is not entertainment that you get but a lot of pressure and new problems that arise because you are wrong in understanding the real gambling.
1643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How discipline are you in managing your bankroll? on: December 04, 2023, 05:20:26 PM

Still that self-control manage to dominate and addiction still avoidable if you will not exceed from your set target, even you are aware that losing is a common outcome with that kind of limitation and not trying to add more money in you bankroll will help. It's not easy as there are many factors that can drive you to keep playing and chances of being excited and wanting more can lead you to add money when things did not go according to how you expect.

But if you have such limit and you are good at managing that self-control, you are really helping yourself to avoid that big danger behind this activity..

The self-control was the important one to prevent from the loss in the gambling.After the big win in the gambling,the gambler will do the gambling for the longer period without any limitation.They will do tje gambling with the energy get from the big win in the gambling.Every win in the gambling will give the positive opinion about the gambling to the gambler.So whenever the gambler get money from the other sources, he will ready to use for the gambling site.If the gambler placed big money all the time in the gambling site,this help the gambler to get settle in their life using the gambling site.

When you are still gambling or still frequently involved in the activity then losing will continue to be you for you, that means self-control and some limits will not completely make you avoid the potential of losing because losing and winning cannot be eliminated in the concept of gambling, but it will be very useful for a preventive measure so that the risk that will befall you is not too great and you do not suffer too much with the negative impact that befalls you.

Of course, once you've got a big win, that's when it all starts, some limits can easily be alienated as your expectations become higher as a result of the previous big win, in fact, if you manage to get a big amount like that then in the next session you will also hope for a much bigger amount of winnings. That's what makes most gamblers experience a big defeat, not that they can't win but the way and mindset they carry makes them lose again, isn't it? and the wrong mindset makes them unable to make proper considerations about what exactly is really good to make a choice, so it's not strange anymore if they run out of money then they will not hesitate to borrow because their confidence in winning is very high.
1644  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Most Traders are Not Profitable on: December 04, 2023, 05:02:11 PM
There is no way that 95% are losing their trades and I cannot draw correlation between 95% traders being unprofitable and them earning through affiliate marketing or YouTube channels. It can never be 95% losing as trading will stop if that's the case. There are people who claims to be profitable traders by showing fabricated numbers and sell their signals or strategy which are designed to fail but not 95% as you claim. Let it be any trader initially they will have losing days but eventually they gain knowledge and create their own strategy which is unique for them based on their level of understanding and what works well for them.
The old ones lose and leave, the new ones come and after some time they also leave, it’s like a cycle. Why do you doubt that so many traders are losing money? I think these statistics are quite realistic. In fact, I think that few people can honestly admit their results in trading, especially some public trader, but for me it is not difficult to believe that the majority lose more than they earn. There are very few truly good traders, and sooner or later the market will beat everyone else.

Of course there are several or even many reasons that make them finally leave, one of which does not have a qualified understanding and knowledge and also does not have management on planning and cannot manage good self-control in terms of approach to their trading engagement, if one of the things I have mentioned above is in yourself then obviously you will experience a lot of unusual pressure in your trading engagement, not only losing money but also mentally and psychologically you will be disturbed, and that's what makes you or them finally give up and leave.

Telling people that your losses are much higher than your gains is like you are exposing yourself especially to some other traders who are involved in the same field as you and that is why I agree with your statement that it is quite difficult for a trader to be able to show the results of their trading transparently. For the problem of experiencing losses that dominate more than profits I think it's still reasonable and usually that condition happens more to those who are just starting the approach because the level of knowledge they have is still low, it doesn't matter because over time you will be able to develop more with the experience you have while you are there, but if in the long run there is no change then that's another thing.
1645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 04, 2023, 04:44:36 PM

Looking at the statistics of the match, I think it was a match where Borussia Dortmund should be happy with the 1 point they got. They had a very tough match and Bayer Leverkusen wore them out a lot. They are unlucky not to beat because they created a lot of chances. At least they were not defeated, so we have to think like that. Bayern will be the happiest with this loss.
I think Borussia Dortmund avoided a major setback against Bayer Leverkusen. Dortmund's draw feels lucky given Leverkusen's domination. Leverkusen played well, especially at home, but came up short. Leverkusen will regret missing a good opportunity to win all three points. However, Dortmund's resilience under siege is impressive. They've shown resilience previously, notably against Newcastle. Dortmund deserves praise for drawing a tough road game. Bayern is probably beaming. This result allows them to climb the ranks, and Bayern wont miss it.

Do we have to say that this result refers more to luck for the Dortmund camp? yes it is possible, it is very difficult to be able to break the consistency possessed by Leverkusen with their current performance position, statistics have shown that in that match Leverkusen was far superior to Dortmund, especially in terms of shots on target. This result reminds me of some previous matches when Leverkusen were able to hold Bayern Munich to a draw, I consider it natural because the performance of the two teams is currently almost equal, but on the other hand I cannot compare between Bayern Munich and Dortmund because in the past few seasons Bayern Munich has proven to be stronger than them by always being able to secure the trophy at the end of the season.

I honestly don't know what the problem was that Leverkusen were only able to hold a draw, and if they were late in equalizing then obviously it was a very surprising (bad) result for Leverkusen who played at home. In conclusion, in my opinion, it is not only luck that Dortmund has but they also have a very strong defense. On the other hand this is a pretty tough task for Xabi Alonso because after all their position is now getting closer to Bayern Munich in the standings, so there is no reason for Leverkusen not to perform optimally in the next match to secure three points.
1646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: December 04, 2023, 04:23:47 PM
Good day everyone,,, I would like to share my winning with you guys, but I am not just doing it because I won the bet, but it is because it wasn't the amount I wanted to stake that I staked.

A friend of mine collected $10 from me earlier yesterday and I wanted to use the money to gamble, but based on, he is my friend. I gave him the $10 he asked for, and the guy said he would return the $10 back ASAP after 3 hours, but he didn't and the $10 was the amount and same money I wanted to use and stake a bet (I have some coins but don't have cash and I don't want to sell any penny of my coins for any reason). But letter on, I used 1000 naira ($1) to stake the bet and I won 49,814 naira (about $50+).

Now I am angry at my friend because he didn't keep to his words. Although I am still happy about the win, I wish he had given me back the $10. Then, I would have win bigger money.

Is that friend of yours that you say is a close friend in your life now? Because if he is close to you, maybe you won't feel bad for him, so you should think that he will return it when he remembers that he borrowed something from you.

Or if you're feeling bad, you can remind your friend about what you lent him; there's nothing wrong with reminding him. Maybe the reminder you give him will make him feel ashamed of you and ask for more patience. Why didn't he immediately return what he borrowed from you?

This is not a matter of pity but rather refers to "the money was not returned at the right time", no matter how close you are to your friend but if indeed their behavior makes you quite upset by not keeping their promise then obviously it is quite natural I think if you feel upset and disappointed, plus on the other hand there is a push from other things such as "if I put the amount I have loaned to my friend I will definitely get that big win".

That fact will really disturb your mind so that the OP really feels upset because it turns out that his friend cannot keep his promise. Although you suggest to OP to remind his friend but on the other hand I think this is not a matter of money or the amount of money but more on "opportunities that do not come twice", that's what makes OP very upset. Time has passed, the opportunity has been lost and the rice has become porridge, that's what's on the OP's mind, I think it's natural and hopefully it will get better soon.
1647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever been a gambling addict? on: December 04, 2023, 04:01:42 PM
It's normal for people to get emotional when they lose gambling because they feel like the casino has taken their money and they need to get it back. If they are unable to control their emotions, they will deposit more money to try to recover their losses. But that will not guarantee that they can actually get their money back because there is a possibility that they will experience even more losses. This is something that must be avoided rather than experience more losses, so it is better for us to stop gambling and rest first to lower our emotions immediately.

The gambler is the human being,So it’s easy for them to emotional at the loss in the gambling.The emotional decision will not be the better option in the gambling,the gamblers will surely do the additional deposits to recover the loss in the gambling.But the fact is not easy as you think,the bet which you made at the emotional game will not be the better one.The most of the gambler will not control the emotions after the loss in the gambling,because it was the nature of the human.Only if the gambler is multi-millionaire,he can control their emotions by the money independence behaviour of the rich person.

It is a normal feeling that all humans have and in terms of emotions there will be two impacts that you can feel, if you can manage the emotions that are in yourself well then of course you remain fine even though you are experiencing problems, and if you cannot control the emotions in yourself then obviously bad impacts must come, so this really depends on themselves whether they can or not manage / control emotions in themselves.

Honestly, I'm not going to say too much about this but the main point is that if you go overboard in any way and put sky-high expectations on something that basically has no guarantee, certainty or even just an indication then obviously everything will end up worse than what you imagine. So you shouldn't get your hopes up on this activity, it's not a real opportunity but nothing but a trap for you, you must understand that casinos are very good at brainwashing you.
1648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slot games are a waste of time and money (most of the time) on: December 04, 2023, 03:42:34 PM
Totally agree. It is really a waste of time and money. I personally played this in an online casino I think that was some months ago and I ends up losing all the deposited amount of money I got on my account. After all my funds are gone, I did not mind to play on it again. From slot games I jumped into sports betting.
I also think that slot games are just a waste of both time and money. Because there is not much entertainment in them.  Only gamblers panic when playing them. But as much as I have gambling experience, Dice, Crash, Plinko, Mines, Hilo, Blackjack have enough fun and profit opportunities. Here only you have to play cool and bet cool. However, there is no guarantee that you will do these things.  But it is possible to profit from them if you have skill.

There is no entertainment in all games if you do not like it, if you cant enjoy it, and if you have your own preferences.
All games will also be waste of time and money if you cant control your gambling habit.
Wasting time or not is not about the game, it is subjective from our own preferences as gambler, based on ourselves on how to deal with our gambling habit.
Coming to possibility to make profit in these games, what kind of skills you are talking about and how it is possible to use skills while they are all luck based game.

That makes sense, whether or not a game is a waste of time really comes down to each person's perspective on it. You're only really entertained when you play the games you like, like I do, out of thousands of games I only pick 1/2 that I visit every session, and that's fine with me and I wouldn't say it's a waste of money because I have an engagement plan that keeps me safe in terms of my budget.

I suspect that if you're trying out all the games that are out there it's likely that your goals are different to some people who are still fully conscious, I think it's likely that you want something beyond the fun of it, so you're trying out all the games with the aim and hope of "hopefully finding a bit or even a lot of luck (winning)".

As you said above I agree that gambling is a complete waste of money when you get involved with the wrong approach and the wrong way and also driven by the wrong understanding of gambling itself, that's clear. If you gamble on games like slots then it's entirely up to you how lucky you are at the time, some methods/strategies really don't work, I've tried it and now it's your turn if you don't believe me.
1649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: December 04, 2023, 03:23:26 PM
In short, we need to set limits. This is the only way we can minimize losses and control our emotions so we are not going deeper into addiction. For some people setting limits is not that easy because of greed.

Basically there is no other way that we can do as a preventive measure other than some boundaries and good self-control, don't stop there because you have to be really firm in implementing it because not infrequently it can also be just empty talk, one of the the cause is when you are unconsciously carried away by a situation that seems fun and tempting when in reality it is nothing more than a temptation so that you have no choice to stop and rest.

In my opinion, the point of the problem is that your hopes are too big for good enough results, even though there is no guarantee or certainty that you will succeed in getting them. Moreover, the final results always depend on your luck, so you have to be really realistic in considering the details before you end up regretting it. , just that.
1650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: December 04, 2023, 12:59:33 PM
But in the end you still only make a profit of USD 50, right? never mind, just accept that fact, you still win anyway, it's just a little annoying because you should be able to win more than that but you can't because your friend didn't pay it on time. There's no need to make a big deal about this, because if it's your good fortune, then it won't run away from you, that's the point, don't just because of this gambling, your relationship with your friends becomes bad. It's okay to be upset, but you have to move on and learn from this.

That's a positive point that we can take from this case, although Op failed to get a much bigger win but on the other hand I think he is still lucky to go home still able to bring victory even though the amount is not too large, but on the other hand we must not forget to be grateful for still being given a win, it's better than you go home empty-handed and crying.

Simply maybe I will say that it is luck for OP or that means OP's luck is only with that amount. On the other hand, it's true that it's a little annoying, I'm sure with this incident it looks like OP will have a little trouble with his friend or means a little tenuous in their friendship, but I think it's natural as a form of annoyance that comes out of humans who have common sense. Well exactly, don't think about it too much and just accept what you should get, because basically it's simple if indeed the big win is for you then there will be no possibility of problems like this between you and your friend which makes the big win blocked for you, so I'm not saying you're unlucky but maybe it's not time for that much luck.
1651  Economy / Economics / Re: Any business where today you launch, tomorrow you begin making profit...? on: December 04, 2023, 08:59:47 AM
In any form of business, you can really get a profit as long as you know how to manage it correctly and are serious with your knowledge, because it is not possible if you are only serious and then you have no knowledge of the business you entered.

Because if you don't know anything, find out because it's necessary in business; you need to be persistent, and you have a reason why you need to succeed in the business you built. And that reason is that you must have a goal and a vision, and when you achieve that, it is a good testimony in the history of your life.

Someone who wants to start a business must certainly learn every aspect related to the business he will run. Because the business he runs must have its own risks, so they have to learn what he wants to do to deal with the risks that exist later, most people fail to run their business because when they experience problems but they cannot handle it properly, so they end the business they run. Well this should not happen with new people who want to start a business. So learn every thing related to the business so that it can run well.
If they open a business but don't know what's what, I think they are just wasting money, because it's like fighting but not knowing what they are fighting for. After all, in a business of course there will be many obstacles that must be faced, so the business that he runs should be managed properly so that it can generate profits.
1652  Economy / Economics / Re: Being rich = not looking at price tag on: December 04, 2023, 08:10:39 AM
This is another concerns with people when they go for shopping most times being rich doesn't mean we shouldn't look at price because the money is there or we have enough funds to foot the bills that is to crown it up most rich people are the ones who always loves bargaining price when they go for shopping or found themselves in market. some people made their money in hard way and they have decided to utilize their money amicably that is what most rich people hardly give out to people that are in need of help.
But there are also many people who, as they get richer, become more careful in looking at prices and determining value. Usually rich people with business backgrounds always care about prices. Because maybe they have been used to it since before they became rich. But for children who have rich parents, these are the ones who usually don't care about prices and will buy whatever they want without looking at the price. They become like that because they don't know that making money is difficult for some people. These children are too pampered because everything is available, be it money or whatever, because their parents are rich. But I'm sure the child's parents will always look at prices even though they are already rich. Because he knows how difficult it is to build wealth.

Yes you are right, before they were rich they must have had a business that made them rich. Also with shopping it may be true that you said they are still careful about the price of an item. But shameless children who have parents with abundant wealth do not think about the price when buying things, they tend to just want to enjoy their parents' wealth as they please, the worst of which is that they admit that they have a lot of money when it is only their parents' money.
There is nothing wrong with them enjoying their parents' wealth, but if they continue to use it casually it needs to be advised because the wealth that is obtained must be an effort that must be done, so if they want to enjoy wealth they should want to work or start a business to feel the process of achieving wealth.
1653  Economy / Economics / Re: #HODLing is not a smooth journey on: December 04, 2023, 07:50:15 AM
Yep  Grin only holders know the journey. Those who are investor's who hole for long time they know that how hard holding is. Maintain economy something holder faces losses. Sometimes money shortage nowdays holder faces huge problem who have not enough money but they want to invest and hold they really know the real suffering of a holder. All over that the journey is really smoth.
The path to success has never been simple, yet nobody can't attain their dreams if they are determined enough. Some people have closed their hearts and are only focused on the future they don't even care about the bear, only the bull. This is a self made decision, and those who embrace success have a story to tell. If you want to make holding money easier, there are ways to do so. If the person has other sources of income, they won't be looking at the money that has already been invested. we all know with the current economy it is crazy, but people are still holding, so the economic situation is not an excuse not to hold, because after facing the loss will you still want to sell at that rate no you wait until the time is right to make back your money and also additional profit.

If we really have a dream, of course we must have a strong determination to go through the process, by facing all the things that might sound difficult but if we ourselves are sure it can be overcome. But keep in mind also HOLDING is not an easy thing, so I don't think everyone can do it especially in the long run. Humans tend to change quickly at any time, maybe at the beginning they were sure they would be able to hold for a long time, but they could change their minds halfway through holding because the economy is currently difficult. So don't trivialize things so easily.
Many things must be understood so that we can hold for a long time, so not with a little knowledge, learn many things to be able to do long-term HOLDING. Long-term HOLDING is more profitable but not easy to do.
1654  Economy / Economics / Re: Idea and money are very important to investment. on: December 04, 2023, 07:30:28 AM
To invest it is very important to have a plan and idea about the investment and the next step is to have money. When it comes to investing, I value ideas and planning more than money. That's why I take investment planning and investment ideas seriously because if our ideas and plans are not right then we can definitely lose money. Investing so that we can keep our money safe, we need to know about investments. Those who invest in Bitcoin for the long term do not need to do much planning or research into the market as the small fluctuations in the market may not affect an investor much when investing for the long term.

But without money, how can you invest and promote your ideas? I think ideas, plans, money, all are equally important, one cannot say one is more important than the other. Furthermore, money is a difficult problem for most people because nowadays money is not easy to earn, while ideas and plans we only need to spend a little time to implement. I still find the money factor really important and a problem for many investors today. We can learn knowledge anywhere and it is not difficult to find it, but capital to invest is a more complicated issue.

With the current situation, it's difficult for everyone to earn money, even if they have a job but sometimes they are still lacking economically. Also money is a common problem for everyone nowadays, because it's not as easy as plucking a leaf off a tree. You are right, knowledge can be sought anywhere, especially now that technology is developing, making it easier for us to access everything with the internet. But if it's about money that plays a role for capital it is very difficult, it is not easy to get money to make capital at the beginning.
So it is indeed money that has an important role in this problem. Because if there is no money we can't do it, investment also involves money as its main role, how to make a profit without money? Of course, everything that will generate profits must begin with capital where this capital is mostly money.
1655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: December 04, 2023, 07:09:09 AM

Whatever things are forced will never end well, even when you work to earn money, you will only burden yourself if you force things that you can't actually get. In gambling, a calm mind is the key to victory. If your mind is confused then whatever decision you make will only end in big losses, try to think about whether there are successful people (in gambling or in business) who always force things out of control, they certainly won't do that, they will wait for the right moment and will always evaluate their plans if it goes wrong.

Of course, if you force an action or activity then the results will not be satisfactory or optimal, especially in gambling, if you play forcefully it is likely that the results will not be the same as what you want, instead of wanting to win what you will get is defeat.
Agree with you, it's a good idea to return to gambling in a good state or mind, the point is that we can maintain good control and gamble carefully.

Something if done by force will certainly not go well, although there is a chance it will go well but the end might be guessed,  with a bad end. they do what they want and expect something they can get according to their expectations, but the possibility of their expectations will only be a dream that is difficult to happen especially with gambling where it is unlikely that expectations will match reality. Many things must be considered to avoid the risk of gambling, not rash in deciding on choices, not expecting more from gambling, just accept what has been obtained and leave. Do not force yourself to be able to continue gambling by pursuing a victory that is difficult to get. Instead of spending a lot of money on gambling, they should spend it on other things that are more positive. That's better.
Even if you have gotten a victory it is better to immediately cash it in, not with the words "one more bet", it can trigger the loss of the winnings that have been obtained,  the winnings that have been obtained are better secured first than continuing the game where it can make them lose control as well as the loss of profits earned.
1656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: December 04, 2023, 06:42:09 AM
Yes, that's right, most of them when they still have a balance so they don't think long, of course they will try to get what they want, if like this, don't they follow their greed or ego? Also I think they must have occasionally won a sufficient amount, but because of their curiosity maybe that makes them continue to gamble to get an unreasonable amount of winnings hahaha.
And indeed, if gambling is better not to expect more, in other words that by gambling we can get a lot of money easily. After all the more we spend a lot of money, the deeper we go and will be trapped inside with the difficulty of getting out. also the point of error is not in gambling but in ourselves who misinterpret gambling, if we can interpret gambling correctly and well maybe there won't be a lot of money spent on gambling. Prevention is better than cure, right? So we should not expect more from gambling.
Yes, they follow their greed or ego by trying to continue what they want, but they need to remember that if they continue, they have the potential to experience losses that might be bigger than before. And when the losses they receive become bigger, they still cannot accept it, and then they will deposit more money to try to recover their losses. Yes, we should prevent that from happening by always trying to apply good limits and responsibility when gambling so that we won't experience too many losses. Maybe we have been in a situation like that, which made us experience very difficult difficulties. Now, we have gained meaningful experience, so we should be able to be more responsible with ourselves when playing gambling.

It is unfortunate that they follow their ego and greed that plunges them deeper into gambling and it may also be difficult to get out of the trap they have felt. It can't be imagined that they have spent a lot of money on gambling if from the beginning they saved the money used for gambling maybe they could start a business that could clearly generate profits for themselves.
It's not wrong that they gamble, it's just that they can't limit their gambling nor do they have good responsibility, the mindset they have does not make them good but makes them addicted to gambling which will clearly harm them. If only they could limit their gambling activities maybe they wouldn't lose a lot of money gambling, but unfortunately it's the opposite.
1657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I learnt from a crackhead about gambling on: December 04, 2023, 06:22:54 AM
For me any kind of addiction is bad. Although the ones OP is discussing are worst addiction. Gambling destroys finance of an addict and drug addiction destroys health. Ultimately both cause big issues with the family of addicts. In the end all addicts commit crime go to the extreme to satisfy thier addiction. An addict is an addict regardless of the kind of addiction they have.
Nothing positive can be expected from gambling rather nothing but family turmoil comes from gambling. A gambling addict does not hesitate to do any criminal activity just to give priority to his addiction without any regard for family peace and economic status. When a gambler is in a financial crisis, he commits more serious crimes, particularly heinous crimes such as theft and murder to finance his gambling. To manage gambling money in rural areas, many serious crimes of violence against women, including divorce, are being organized. Therefore, gambling cannot bring any positive results in our social context.
The financial strain caused by gambling addiction can indeed result in criminal activities, because people may resort to theft or other illegal means to fund their habits. This jeopardizes not only them self but also poses a threat to the safety and security of others in the community. The mention of crimes such as theft and murder highlights the extreme measures some individuals may take when trapped in the cycle of addiction and financial desperation.

The toll on family relationships, including divorce and domestic issues, is another grim aspect of the social impact of gambling. The societies need to address the issue of gambling addiction. This can play a crucial role in mitigating the negative consequences associated with addicted gambler's negative behavior. Those all underscores the need for a comprehensive approach to tackle the social challenges posed by gambling, including measures to prevent addiction and address the wider societal implications of problem gambling.

There are many ways to avoid gambling addiction, such as, not borrowing money, avoiding friends who are addicted to gambling, not gambling beyond the limit and others, actually many things can be done to avoid addiction. But if they consider gambling as a source of money income it will be difficult because they already have confidence in gambling that will provide income for them, even though it can be sure that the wins and losses they get must be greater than the losses they get.
They should be able to gamble with common sense so as not to get addicted to gambling. Because if you are addicted to gambling, it seems difficult to recover from this gambling addiction. There will also be many harmful effects if they are addicted to gambling, one of which is the relationship in the family as you said that gambling can also trigger depression, anxiety disorders and even worse suicide, increase the risk of children to gamble when they grow up, also the family will experience tremendous stress, because financial problems are the main problems faced by every family if one of the family members is involved in gambling addiction then their finances will be difficult because just one person who is addicted to gambling can cause many problems in his family. Not to mention that they may commit crimes as you said in the beginning.
1658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: December 04, 2023, 06:01:32 AM
If you feel like people who do this kind of thing are just few and they are stupid, think again. This is so prevalent in the gambling industry that certain countries like Australia even had to impose a ban on using credit cards in gambling sites and sportsbets to make sure that no one's digging their own graves trying to gamble their whole life away. So yeah, real PSA for everyone out there, don't gamble if you can't afford shit. Gambling wouldn't give you anything but entertainment, the money is never a guarantee and by the moment you login your acccount/step inside the casino, you should already set your mind to the fact that you're not gonna win anything and you'd probably end up empty-handed after the ordeal, but don't let it get to you and just gamble for the sake of enjoyment.
One thing is to give warning to people against taking loan to gamble and another is left for them to accept the warning or not. Imposing a ban doesn't make them not scramble for other means to attain loans to use for gambling. Many gamblers do this alot and it baffles me what gives then the guarantee that they are going to win and recover their losses to be able to repay the loan money when they couldn't get a win when they were using their own very money that was taken as a loan. It's stupid and silly yet people do it and am lost in the ideology behind that action for people who this.

They take out a loan to go back to gambling just for the stupid purpose of recovering the losses they've incurred. That's not a good reason to take out a loan, it's a nonsense reason. Maybe they're doing it because they've lost their minds, so they believe borrowing will help them recover their losses. But they don't think about what will happen if they can't repay the debt, not only maybe but there will also be many problems that they will feel and have to face, there is no way they can avoid the problems they invited at the beginning.
also will invite high risk, instead of spending hours to gamble it is better to call family or friends to fill spare time. to avoid high risk situations they can do various techniques, such as.

1.Stay away from online casinos and gambling sites
2.Turn off your credit cards
3.Don't take out loans
4.Never carry large amounts of cash
5.Delete gambling apps from your phone
6.Don't socialize with friends who gamble
7.Avoid people, places and activities that you associate with gambling.

Gambling is not wrong if they can interpret it as entertainment, but most people misinterpret gambling to make them addicted to gambling.
1659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: December 04, 2023, 05:42:03 AM
There is also a point, rich people tend to have more capital to gamble so they don't hesitate to bet without thinking about the defeat that will be obtained, because they have a lot of capital so they are more free to bet on gambling, the defeat they get may not be a big problem for them because they are confident in the capital they have that much.
And for the poor they tend to gamble to multiply money hoping to get a win in order to help their daily basic needs, but they tend to be more careful, do not want to lose the money they bet on gambling because the anxiety with the money allows them to borrow money to gamble again because they are still "curious". and this is his fault, they can make their own lives because of their stupid actions.
Another fact is that because they have more capital they get more chances where the poor's doesn't. They have limited capital to bet. They can't even effort to play 20 games a day where rich are playing 100 even more games a day. It won't even matter if he looses 100 more. That's the key difference. If I had more rocks, I would have more chances to hit the target. Exactly this philosophy.

Maybe rich people will bet without hesitation because they have a lot of capital to gamble so they don't think about the chances of losing or winning where they bet just to get a sensation that can make them satisfied. Also rich people do have a greater chance of winning because they have a lot of capital as well as the bets they make with not small amounts, there is no doubt about the bets they make, while their money is there they will do it without the slightest doubt.

In contrast to poor people where they gamble with the aim of wanting to win so that they can bring it to meet their needs that are completely lacking, and also they gamble with anxiety fear of losing the money they have, gambling carefully does not guarantee they can win. There is still a big chance of losing and there is no avoiding that.
1660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Its A Gambling Joke But Reflects Bad Things About Gambling on: December 03, 2023, 08:30:21 PM
~snip~
Once a gambler makes one win after a long period of reckless gambling and consistent losses,  he celebrates and claims he is lucky. This win motivates him to put in more effort as there are still chances for him to win more (of which we know it doesn't always work that way). Now the big question is, was the win able to cover up all he has lost? The properties he sold to fund his games? Obviously not. While congratulating him for at least going home with a bike,we should also advise him to gamble in moderation. Set healthy budgets for himself and as much as possible avoid selling off important properties to fund his gambling habit. If he fails to adhere to advice, he might even sell the new bike and be lucky again to get a bicycle.
Getting a win after several losses is like water in the desert that gives us coolness. But we have to realize that it is a code for us so that we can stop because we have won and continue gambling another time. The wins we get will not be able to cover all the losses because the number of losses may be greater than the number of wins. He may also have difficulty purchasing property, such as cars that he has sold to gamble. But at least he has gained valuable experience from gambling, so that he must immediately reduce his gambling activities or even stop his gambling activities. It was for his own good so that he would not experience more losses and so that he could still own his property.

There is an extraordinary feeling of joy when they can finally get victory after sacrificing several or even dozens of defeats, as you said about getting a bottle of water that falls from the sky when you are in the middle of the desert, it makes sense to describe that feeling. the joy they got was  extraordinary. It is a good condition if your victory can restore everything you have lost, but the question is, will they be able to stop their activities in that condition? can they hold back everything that comes out of their minds as a result of curiosity? I'm not sure about this.

As proof, now more and more people are experiencing an increase in their level of addiction, meaning they always want to get something bigger because they think that luck is still not finished but there is no indication whatsoever that tells them that they are still in a lucky position. On the other hand, it is quite rare for me to see quite good recoveries, usually  their winnings will only cover half the money they have spent, meaning the amount of losses is still large. Simply put, if the wins they get are big enough then the number of losses they have experienced is much bigger. So I think only responsibility and recognizing something that has been lost can make them realize and stop.
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